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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 11:45:56 GMT
Post by hanibal7 on Oct 30, 2017 11:45:56 GMT
I also noticed that Watford manager said survival is our number 1 objective. Can one imagine if Hughes said that, would be meltdown on here, but this so called fantastic manager, who has won 1 game at home, can say it.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 11:50:45 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Oct 30, 2017 11:50:45 GMT
The problem with thes bans after the game is that it benefits other teams not us. I think if there is retrospective bans of say 3 games 2 should be the next 2 games and the third should be against the team in which the incident occurred This. I cant see why anyone connected with Stoke is interested whether he gets a ban.....it wont affect us.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 11:52:21 GMT
Ryan did nowt, and Deeney wants banning. End of. Thuggery of the highest order. Imagine a young lad, or girl for that matter, seeing that picture. A disgraceful episode IMHO. I wonder what your opinion is on Taggart vs Wise. Should have been a sending off. The fact that one of our players did it many years ago doesn't mean its right.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 12:33:24 GMT
Post by Northy on Oct 30, 2017 12:33:24 GMT
What Deeney did to Allen would be unacceptable in any walk of society. If it was as bad as it looked on television the it is a no brainer - 3 match ban. I was present at the West Brom match when Geoff Cameron got sent off for "felling" Claudio Jacob with a scuff on the head - an act which a T.V replay showed was simulation on Jacob's part. Was Jacob done for simulation? No. Geoff's red card stood, though (if memory serves me correctly) No, it was rescinded, didn't help though as it cost us the game. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35225770
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 12:35:40 GMT
Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 30, 2017 12:35:40 GMT
He didn't do any damage to Joe and I don't think he meant to either. Looks like he was just having a bit of fun winding Joe up. I can understand how 2 people can watch a game of football and have differing opinions, BUT, for the life of me how can you justify that statement?? You sir are a Prick He didn't swing for him, he was just holding his face.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 12:36:33 GMT
Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 30, 2017 12:36:33 GMT
I wonder what your opinion is on Taggart vs Wise. Should have been a sending off. The fact that one of our players did it many years ago doesn't mean its right. Yes so if you look at the thread about Taggart you can see people on here contradicting themselves.
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Post by JudgeMental on Oct 30, 2017 12:38:40 GMT
Let's face it, Deeney is going to get dog's abuse when they play us at home. Stoke supporters have long memories. If money wasn't so tight these days, there'd be 50p's heading his way as well. Might improve his looks.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 12:41:43 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 12:41:43 GMT
I also noticed that Watford manager said survival is our number 1 objective. Can one imagine if Hughes said that, would be meltdown on here, but this so called fantastic manager, who has won 1 game at home, can say it. to be fair, we should be aiming for more than survival. They have a new manager and are newer in the league. Probably fair enough that he's aiming to survive before pushing on.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 16:49:15 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Oct 30, 2017 16:49:15 GMT
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 30, 2017 16:57:02 GMT
I haven't bothered with the seven pages to date, but Deeney is a thug, and there is no doubt whatsoever that what he did to Joe and Ryan justified a red card. A retrospective ban is no good to us - it only helps the teams which he would not face. That is why it is so crucial that a red card offence should never be missed - if it such an offence, the only proper punishment is to reduce his team to 10 men for the remainder of that game.
TV evidence should be used - it would take a mere 30 seconds for a ref in the stand to see what he did was worthy of a red card being shown.
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Post by pottermost on Oct 30, 2017 16:58:05 GMT
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:01:26 GMT
Post by nott1 on Oct 30, 2017 17:01:26 GMT
Oliver was weak!
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:03:04 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 30, 2017 17:03:04 GMT
Deeney charged
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 30, 2017 17:07:21 GMT
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:22:02 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 30, 2017 17:22:02 GMT
Charged even after being booked, has that happened before?
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:24:32 GMT
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Oct 30, 2017 17:24:32 GMT
If he is charged Everton and West Ham are the teams to benefit, what a fucking shock.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:25:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 17:25:23 GMT
Charged even after being booked, has that happened before? New season, new rules.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:27:33 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 30, 2017 17:27:33 GMT
Charged even after being booked, has that happened before? It said at the weekend he was booked for the push on Shawcross😄Which I found hilarious if true.If that’s correct then they can do him for the nails in Joe’s face
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Post by Davef on Oct 30, 2017 17:28:44 GMT
Charged even after being booked, has that happened before? New season, new rules. I'm not sure it's a new rule. If the referee reports that he booked Deeney for pushing Shawcross then there's nothing stopping the FA charging him with violent conduct.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:30:31 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 30, 2017 17:30:31 GMT
Charged even after being booked, has that happened before? It said at the weekend he was booked for the push on Shawcross😄Which I found hilarious if true.If that’s correct then they can do him for the nails in Joe’s face Ahh okay so the ref didn't see his face gauging of wee Joe then?! Good news. Also means that Ryan will get away with sticking his head in then, you'd suggest.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:34:25 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 30, 2017 17:34:25 GMT
It said at the weekend he was booked for the push on Shawcross😄Which I found hilarious if true.If that’s correct then they can do him for the nails in Joe’s face Ahh okay so the ref didn't see his face gauging of wee Joe then?! Good news. Also means that Ryan will get away with sticking his head in then, you'd suggest. Looks that way mate and I’m also surprised nothing has been shown regarding Shaqiri’s alleged punch🤔The way Poll went on about it on Saturday you’d have thought he’d have knocked someone out🙄
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Oct 30, 2017 17:36:15 GMT
It said at the weekend he was booked for the push on Shawcross😄Which I found hilarious if true.If that’s correct then they can do him for the nails in Joe’s face Ahh okay so the ref didn't see his face gauging of wee Joe then?! Good news. Also means that Ryan will get away with sticking his head in then, you'd suggest. Ryan DIDNT stick his head in, simply looked between his eyes . . . . at a very close distance.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 30, 2017 17:36:22 GMT
Ahh okay so the ref didn't see his face gauging of wee Joe then?! Good news. Also means that Ryan will get away with sticking his head in then, you'd suggest. Looks that way mate and I’m also surprised nothing has been shown regarding Shaqiri’s alleged punch🤔The way Poll went on about it on Saturday you’d have thought he’d have knocked someone out🙄 Graeme Poll is a prick though so the FA must've automatically assumed he was talking out of his arse, which he was of course
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 17:50:28 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 30, 2017 17:50:28 GMT
Pleased to have been proven wrong that retrospective action couldnt be taken. Deserves everything he gets.
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 30, 2017 17:58:40 GMT
Looks that way mate and I’m also surprised nothing has been shown regarding Shaqiri’s alleged punch🤔The way Poll went on about it on Saturday you’d have thought he’d have knocked someone out🙄 Graeme Poll is a prick though so the FA must've automatically assumed he was talking out of his arse, which he was of course Agreed why listen to a bloke who can book somebody 3 times before sending them off
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 30, 2017 17:58:41 GMT
Pleased to have been proven wrong that retrospective action couldnt be taken. Deserves everything he gets. There has never been any doubt that if a player commits two potential offences and the ref only sees one of them, that retropspective action can be taken on the other. The push on Shawcross and the cheek gouge on Allen were clearly two potential offences. Therefore the FA was always going to be able to review the punishment UNLESS Oliver says he saw both incidents and decided not to punish one of them.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 18:03:03 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 18:03:03 GMT
Charged even after being booked, has that happened before? I also think if the referee in post says he didn't see x incident in it's entirety then even with a booking they can give a ban etc. As far as I'm aware. Shockingly they never do.
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 18:08:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 18:08:29 GMT
I haven't bothered with the seven pages to date, but Deeney is a thug, and there is no doubt whatsoever that what he did to Joe and Ryan justified a red card. A retrospective ban is no good to us - it only helps the teams which he would not face. That is why it is so crucial that a red card offence should never be missed - if it such an offence, the only proper punishment is to reduce his team to 10 men for the remainder of that game. TV evidence should be used - it would take a mere 30 seconds for a ref in the stand to see what he did was worthy of a red card being shown. You really should read them and give your legal opinion on alsters summary, he knows more about the legalities of self defence than anyone else on here apparently...
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Deeney
Oct 30, 2017 18:13:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 18:13:17 GMT
If he is charged Everton and West Ham are the teams to benefit, what a fucking shock. He's shit I'd rather him be in Watford's team if I was the opposition....
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Post by milky on Oct 30, 2017 18:18:14 GMT
Doesn't reflect well on Head Boy Oliver whichever way you look at it.
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