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Post by gawa on Jan 18, 2024 10:01:23 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 18, 2024 10:04:45 GMT
What an absolute pussy....
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Post by elystokie on Jan 18, 2024 10:35:04 GMT
What an absolute pussy.... To be fair he's taught me a new word, I can't be the only one that's spent my life wondering what the state of laughter between sniggering and giggling is 😄 What a bloody child, the absolute state of politics in this country! 😐
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 18, 2024 10:47:10 GMT
Bloody hell!!
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 18, 2024 10:52:05 GMT
And3lets mot forget this is a tory owned company
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Post by Veritas on Jan 18, 2024 13:02:42 GMT
Unfortunately it probably won't actually be this good/bad but just think if it was multiple Portillo moments throughout election night. Oh please let it happen 🙏
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 18, 2024 13:41:41 GMT
What an absolute pussy....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 13:49:44 GMT
So, to paraphrase: “I believed that something was wrong but then I heard someone talk to someone else…and well, they, they were laughing!…. and all of a sudden, all of the reading around the topic, all of my beliefs were changed. They could have been laughing at me. I didn’t ask them, but it was possible. So, I just had to leave that room. It was devastating. I wanted to vote no, but they could have been laughing at me.” Someone has mentioned that the younger generations cannot handle criticism. It’s perhaps true. I would say that it’s in no way restricted to the younger generations.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 18, 2024 15:37:37 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Jan 18, 2024 16:01:35 GMT
Sniggler
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Post by wannabee on Jan 18, 2024 16:11:18 GMT
How excruciatingly embarrassing ... she clearly couldn't even point to Rwanda on a map, nevermind Kigali. Cooper's smirk says it all, to think this fuckwit was recently the deputy prime minister! There's nothing sadder, than somebody who is actually as thick as two short planks, wrongly accusing somebody else, of being thick! 🤦♂️ /photo/1
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jan 18, 2024 17:30:29 GMT
Why on earth would 10% of under-50s want to vote Tory ?
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Post by maxplonk on Jan 18, 2024 17:42:12 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 18, 2024 18:17:59 GMT
Fuck all to do with the government The blame fully lies with the tree huggers and there incessant green blathering
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 18, 2024 18:20:19 GMT
Fuck all to do with the government The blame fully lies with the tree huggers and there incessant green blathering And what about the £500m?
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Post by maxplonk on Jan 18, 2024 18:31:43 GMT
Fuck all to do with the government The blame fully lies with the tree huggers and there incessant green blathering Please substantiate this remark.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 18, 2024 18:54:25 GMT
Fuck all to do with the government The blame fully lies with the tree huggers and there incessant green blathering And what about the £500m? I would imagine the 500 million will cover the new arc furnace and the decommissioning of the blast furnaces and the redundancies of the three thousand employees Wether this should be paid for by the taxpayer is of course debatable The point I was trying to make is if you want to control emissions Then older industries may well be effected It is worrying that this country is going to be left with no or little virgin steel production But going green isn’t without its problems or controversy
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 18, 2024 18:59:58 GMT
And what about the £500m? I would imagine the 500 million will cover the new arc furnace and the decommissioning of the blast furnaces and the redundancies of the three thousand employees Wether this should be paid for by the taxpayer is of course debatable The point I was trying to make is if you want to control emissions Then older industries may well be effected It is worrying that this country is going to be left with no or little virgin steel production But going green isn’t without its problems or controversy As long as none of the £500m goes to the shareholders.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 18, 2024 19:19:04 GMT
I would imagine the 500 million will cover the new arc furnace and the decommissioning of the blast furnaces and the redundancies of the three thousand employees Wether this should be paid for by the taxpayer is of course debatable The point I was trying to make is if you want to control emissions Then older industries may well be effected It is worrying that this country is going to be left with no or little virgin steel production But going green isn’t without its problems or controversy As long as none of the £500m goes to the shareholders. Oh I’m sure a certain amount will Why would they break a habit
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 18, 2024 20:41:29 GMT
Sniggler Apparently thejpkr from labour was hrs returning home to labour that's what their were laughing at
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Post by maxplonk on Jan 18, 2024 21:18:31 GMT
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Post by maxplonk on Jan 18, 2024 21:30:24 GMT
The lass is on a mission:
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Post by andystokey on Jan 18, 2024 22:24:41 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Jan 18, 2024 22:34:17 GMT
I don't think the watchdog should be concerned that these lies "may affect public trust" .... in Government, there isn't any.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 19, 2024 6:03:22 GMT
Momentum is growing for Ricky Tice and Reform. With Farage set to endorse the party further in the coming weeks and months, and certain sections of the media (even the Guardian!) talking about them and dare I say it, starting to pledge support for them, it does feel like Reform could genuinely stand a chance of winning a few seats in what is going to be an otherwise landslide victory for Starmer. Labour are totally useless but one can at least understand why some might be inclined to vote for them given the state of the nation. But I find it totally unfathomable why ANYONE would vote Conservative in the next election, even die hard Tories. They don't represent the right of British politics whatsoever (or the socially Conservative, more traditional left for that matter). They've destroyed people's pockets, the economy, can't protect our borders, can't provide law and order, have no idea how to reform the NHS, no ideas when it comes to the state of education, they can't even manage the fucking state of our roads in this country - Anyone else noticed the obscene levels of traffic and shambolic road works crisis we've been getting over the last few years? Shapps was a disaster with transport. There is an alternative for those who don't want soft, weak, centre left parties in power and I do think people are finally starting to take note of that. A glimmer of hope for a dissafected nation 😊 www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/18/rishi-sunak-latest-news-rwanda-bill-philp/
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 19, 2024 6:18:32 GMT
The polling makes you wonder, literally what is the point of the Lib Dems anymore? Totally hopeless party with a leader most Brits don't even know the name of. Surely they must be considering sacking Davey in favor of someone with even the tiniest ounce of leadership capability and personality. Polling at 8% (less than a brand new party) at a time when the ruling party is at an all time low is both tragic and pretty comical. The Greens are somehow doing even worse!
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 19, 2024 7:26:53 GMT
The polling makes you wonder, literally what is the point of the Lib Dems anymore? Totally hopeless party with a leader most Brits don't even know the name of. Surely they must be considering sacking Davey in favor of someone with even the tiniest ounce of leadership capability and personality. Polling at 8% (less than a brand new party) at a time when the ruling party is at an all time low is both tragic and pretty comical. The Greens are somehow doing even worse! You massively big up Reform hoping they will win a few seats in one post, then say what’s the point of the lib dems in the next post. I guarantee the lib dems get more seats than reform at the next election. Which means they have a lot more point to them than reform. The main policy for both is the same by the way: electoral reform. But the lib dems have campaigned for that for decades.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 19, 2024 7:31:39 GMT
That’s an unbelievable stat! Just imagine how much worse it would be if it weren’t for Brexit or if Labour had been in power…
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 19, 2024 8:19:16 GMT
The polling makes you wonder, literally what is the point of the Lib Dems anymore? Totally hopeless party with a leader most Brits don't even know the name of. Surely they must be considering sacking Davey in favor of someone with even the tiniest ounce of leadership capability and personality. Polling at 8% (less than a brand new party) at a time when the ruling party is at an all time low is both tragic and pretty comical. The Greens are somehow doing even worse! You massively big up Reform hoping they will win a few seats in one post, then say what’s the point of the lib dems in the next post. I guarantee the lib dems get more seats than reform at the next election. Which means they have a lot more point to them than reform. The main policy for both is the same by the way: electoral reform. But the lib dems have campaigned for that for decades. We’ve discussed this before I know. Lib Dem’s formed a coalition with Tories in 2010 on the premise that there would be a referendum on an alternative voting system. At that referendum it was firmly rejected by the populace. I voted for change. Why was the AV system so firmly rejected if it is a fairer system. You only have to look at the 2015 GE results to see that. SNP 56 seats with 1.4 million votes, UKIP 1 seat with 3.8 million votes, Lib Dems 8 seats with 2.4 million votes.
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Post by lordb on Jan 19, 2024 8:32:24 GMT
Momentum is growing for Ricky Tice and Reform. With Farage set to endorse the party further in the coming weeks and months, and certain sections of the media (even the Guardian!) talking about them and dare I say it, starting to pledge support for them, it does feel like Reform could genuinely stand a chance of winning a few seats in what is going to be an otherwise landslide victory for Starmer. Labour are totally useless but one can at least understand why some might be inclined to vote for them given the state of the nation. But I find it totally unfathomable why ANYONE would vote Conservative in the next election, even die hard Tories. They don't represent the right of British politics whatsoever (or the socially Conservative, more traditional left for that matter). They've destroyed people's pockets, the economy, can't protect our borders, can't provide law and order, have no idea how to reform the NHS, no ideas when it comes to the state of education, they can't even manage the fucking state of our roads in this country - Anyone else noticed the obscene levels of traffic and shambolic road works crisis we've been getting over the last few years? Shapps was a disaster with transport. There is an alternative for those who don't want soft, weak, centre left parties in power and I do think people are finally starting to take note of that. A glimmer of hope for a dissafected nation 😊 www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/18/rishi-sunak-latest-news-rwanda-bill-philp/They won't win a single seat If they get any MPs it will be Tory MPs defecting before the election They will however split the Tory vote, the question is how many marginals will that cost the Tories?
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