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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 21, 2023 17:39:41 GMT
Minimum wage up by a quid. Party for the working class. It’s too high
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Post by henry on Nov 21, 2023 17:44:37 GMT
Minimum wage up by a quid. Party for the working class. It’s too high Labour will say "too little too late".
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 21, 2023 17:51:54 GMT
Minimum wage up by a quid. Party for the working class. Minimum wage goes up then everything goes up. People end up worse off a month later. The minimum wage is a scam.
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Post by henry on Nov 21, 2023 18:02:19 GMT
Minimum wage up by a quid. Party for the working class. Minimum wage goes up then everything goes up. People end up worse off a month later. The minimum wage is a scam. Corbyn and Mcdoughnut wanted £15 per hour.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 21, 2023 18:30:55 GMT
They really do think their supporters are complete mugs, another blatant lie ...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 21, 2023 18:34:51 GMT
They really do think their supporters are complete mugs, another blatant lie ... That's not an ureasonable thing to think 😄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 18:41:03 GMT
They really do think their supporters are complete mugs, another blatant lie ... That's not an ureasonable thing to think 😄 As part of work, it’s likely that my findings at some point will generate media attention. As such, you get given the option to take media handling courses. Chief amongst the takeaway points is this: Repeat your main point at least 6-8x. Do not repeat misinformation, even if challenging it. Just state your result. The theory behind this is based on studies that people generally start to believe something (when they are not vehemently opposed to it), if they hear it around 6-8x in different situations. Manipulation is fairly straightforward. Especially when you have a complicit media arm.
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Post by knype on Nov 21, 2023 18:50:44 GMT
Wow, another attempted insult , please show me the true data that shows it affected the spread of covid? From what I had read and heard, it made no difference. You naughty boy you haven't been reading your Bible lately Rishi Sunak's Eat Out To Help Out scheme likely cost lives, the Government's top pandemic scientist has told the Covid Inquiry. The then-Chancellor launched the flagship offer in August 2020. Brits were given discounts for dining in restaurants in a bid to kickstart the hospitality industry that suffered heavily because of lockdowns. Sir Patrick Vallance, No10's ex-chief scientific adviser, today said it is 'highly likely' that people died because of the policy. He added that all ministers were aware that such schemes were risky, despite PM Mr Sunak telling the probe he didn't recall any pushback over the offer. Meanwhile, an extract taken from Sir Patrick's pandemic diary, which has only been shared with the inquiry, alleged Mr Sunak believed it was 'okay' to just 'let people die' to avoid another lockdown. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12771739/Highly-likely-Eat-Help-cost-lives-claims-Sir-Patrick-Vallance-Rishi-Sunak-accused-saying-Government-just-let-people-die-avoid-lockdown.htmlThese are the recollections, views and observations of Britain's Top Scientific Advisor during Covid Pandemic Of course if you don't share his views do please share your Scientific Qualifications as the basis for your dissent The data from all over Europe shows that lots of countries without the scheme also peaked at a similar time, did Eat out to Help out cause that also?
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Post by knype on Nov 21, 2023 18:52:18 GMT
and liebore might've lost the terrorist voters now as well. Please don't post again on this thread. Why can't he? What he said is not true but if its his opinion surely its fine to post? Are you admin?
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 21, 2023 19:13:16 GMT
Minimum wage goes up then everything goes up. People end up worse off a month later. The minimum wage is a scam. Corbyn and Mcdoughnut wanted £15 per hour. Well done on slipping Corbyn in
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Post by wannabee on Nov 21, 2023 19:32:06 GMT
You naughty boy you haven't been reading your Bible lately Rishi Sunak's Eat Out To Help Out scheme likely cost lives, the Government's top pandemic scientist has told the Covid Inquiry. The then-Chancellor launched the flagship offer in August 2020. Brits were given discounts for dining in restaurants in a bid to kickstart the hospitality industry that suffered heavily because of lockdowns. Sir Patrick Vallance, No10's ex-chief scientific adviser, today said it is 'highly likely' that people died because of the policy. He added that all ministers were aware that such schemes were risky, despite PM Mr Sunak telling the probe he didn't recall any pushback over the offer. Meanwhile, an extract taken from Sir Patrick's pandemic diary, which has only been shared with the inquiry, alleged Mr Sunak believed it was 'okay' to just 'let people die' to avoid another lockdown. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12771739/Highly-likely-Eat-Help-cost-lives-claims-Sir-Patrick-Vallance-Rishi-Sunak-accused-saying-Government-just-let-people-die-avoid-lockdown.htmlThese are the recollections, views and observations of Britain's Top Scientific Advisor during Covid Pandemic Of course if you don't share his views do please share your Scientific Qualifications as the basis for your dissent The data from all over Europe shows that lots of countries without the scheme also peaked at a similar time, did Eat out to Help out cause that also? Why on earth would it, there were no similar schemes in Europe. Sir Patrick Vallance Chief Medical Officer for England believes it was responsible for Deaths in England Any comment that Ministers including Sunak were aware that it was risky and that Rishi felt it was "OK" to "let people die" to avoid another lockdown Twice now you have quoted the "Data" without offering any Do you have anything of substance to support your position? Or are you just offering your opinion?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 22, 2023 6:39:34 GMT
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Post by henry on Nov 22, 2023 7:15:54 GMT
Corbyn and Mcdoughnut wanted £15 per hour. Well done on slipping Corbyn in True though.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 22, 2023 7:30:29 GMT
Long thread but worth a read.
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Post by maxplonk on Nov 22, 2023 7:39:56 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 22, 2023 8:03:59 GMT
This is just my opinion….Tories are in turmoil and know they cannot stop the tsunami of next years election from ousting them from government. So this massive tax give away and 8.5% increase in pensions(it’s not just the state pension but all public service pensions as well) is designed to really stitch up the next administration, probably labour, because they will be left with no alternative but to reverse tax cuts and other unpopular decisions like possibly scrapping the triple lock. Of course this will have a negative effect on the next governments support and the cycle starts again with Tories back in power in the 2029 GE. Imo what is needed is a credible 3rd party to break this cycle we’ve been in for almost a century now. Unfortunately that won’t happen any time soon.
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 22, 2023 8:04:19 GMT
Well done on slipping Corbyn in True though. It's sad that's what it is. He's not in power, he's never going to be in power and he's not in opposition in anyway yet people keep dragging him up. Yeah but Corbyn, yeah but Corbyn, Yeah but Corbyn. I don't care who wants to put the minimum wage up or by what I don't like the minimum wage because of the knock on effect making people worse off.
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Post by henry on Nov 22, 2023 8:18:49 GMT
This is just my opinion….Tories are in turmoil and know they cannot stop the tsunami of next years election from ousting them from government. So this massive tax give away and 8.5% increase in pensions(it’s not just the state pension but all public service pensions as well) is designed to really stitch up the next administration, probably labour, because they will be left with no alternative but to reverse tax cuts and other unpopular decisions like possibly scrapping the triple lock. Of course this will have a negative effect on the next governments support and the cycle starts again with Tories back in power in the 2029 GE. Imo what is needed is a credible 3rd party to break this cycle we’ve been in for almost a century now. Unfortunately that won’t happen any time soon. There will be an increase in revenue from the increase in minimum wage. Don’t know what the actual figures are but I doubt it will be a massive tax give away.
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2023 8:33:00 GMT
This is just my opinion….Tories are in turmoil and know they cannot stop the tsunami of next years election from ousting them from government. So this massive tax give away and 8.5% increase in pensions(it’s not just the state pension but all public service pensions as well) is designed to really stitch up the next administration, probably labour, because they will be left with no alternative but to reverse tax cuts and other unpopular decisions like possibly scrapping the triple lock. Of course this will have a negative effect on the next governments support and the cycle starts again with Tories back in power in the 2029 GE. Imo what is needed is a credible 3rd party to break this cycle we’ve been in for almost a century now. Unfortunately that won’t happen any time soon. It's rare for one party to be in power for just one term, 1974 was last time
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 22, 2023 9:12:38 GMT
The data from all over Europe shows that lots of countries without the scheme also peaked at a similar time, did Eat out to Help out cause that also? Why on earth would it, there were no similar schemes in Europe. Sir Patrick Vallance Chief Medical Officer for England believes it was responsible for Deaths in England Any comment that Ministers including Sunak were aware that it was risky and that Rishi felt it was "OK" to "let people die" to avoid another lockdown Twice now you have quoted the "Data" without offering any Do you have anything of substance to support your position? Or are you just offering your opinion? Sir Knype, Chief Medical Officer of the Oatcake knows a lot more about covid than Vallance.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 22, 2023 9:14:02 GMT
Well done on slipping Corbyn in True though. I’ll see your Corbyn, and raise with Truss and Kwarteng.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 22, 2023 9:15:00 GMT
Why on earth would it, there were no similar schemes in Europe. Sir Patrick Vallance Chief Medical Officer for England believes it was responsible for Deaths in England Any comment that Ministers including Sunak were aware that it was risky and that Rishi felt it was "OK" to "let people die" to avoid another lockdown Twice now you have quoted the "Data" without offering any Do you have anything of substance to support your position? Or are you just offering your opinion? Sir Knype, Chief Medical Officer of the Oatcake knows a lot more about covid than Vallance. The ecomomic professors of the Oatcake are also to be applauded.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 22, 2023 9:16:08 GMT
This is just my opinion….Tories are in turmoil and know they cannot stop the tsunami of next years election from ousting them from government. So this massive tax give away and 8.5% increase in pensions(it’s not just the state pension but all public service pensions as well) is designed to really stitch up the next administration, probably labour, because they will be left with no alternative but to reverse tax cuts and other unpopular decisions like possibly scrapping the triple lock. Of course this will have a negative effect on the next governments support and the cycle starts again with Tories back in power in the 2029 GE. Imo what is needed is a credible 3rd party to break this cycle we’ve been in for almost a century now. Unfortunately that won’t happen any time soon. You are absolutely right. But FPTP means there will not be a 3rd party. Electoral reform is the single most important thing that this country needs to do to make our country better.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Nov 22, 2023 9:28:49 GMT
Corbyn I hope is at least being asked to pay rent he's in enough people's heads. If it's rent free too then I will not be amused but I will tip my glass
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Post by phileetin on Nov 22, 2023 10:02:05 GMT
Please don't post again on this thread. Why can't he? What he said is not true but if its his opinion surely its fine to post? Are you admin?
thanks , yes i agree regarding my original comment , it is very unlikely that liebour have lost the terrorist vote . I'm surprised the lefties on here weren't happy about it .
It's a frightening prospect that Labour might need terrorist supporters to secure a majority , i wonder what the price will be to reflect that support ?
Funny how hamas supporters can walk the streets of london and get the backing of the lefties on here on the grounds of free speech and yet they don't want me to exercise my right to criticise them .
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 22, 2023 10:07:49 GMT
Why can't he? What he said is not true but if its his opinion surely its fine to post? Are you admin?
thanks , yes i agree regarding my original comment , it is very unlikely that liebour have lost the terrorist vote . I'm surprised the lefties on here weren't happy about it .
It's a frightening prospect that Labour might need terrorist supporters to secure a majority , i wonder what the price will be to reflect that support ?
Funny how hamas supporters can walk the streets of london and get the backing of the lefties on here on the grounds of free speech and yet they don't want me to exercise my right to criticise them .
Who are you (specifically) referring to when you refer to "the terrorist vote"?
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Post by knype on Nov 22, 2023 10:09:40 GMT
Why on earth would it, there were no similar schemes in Europe. Sir Patrick Vallance Chief Medical Officer for England believes it was responsible for Deaths in England Any comment that Ministers including Sunak were aware that it was risky and that Rishi felt it was "OK" to "let people die" to avoid another lockdown Twice now you have quoted the "Data" without offering any Do you have anything of substance to support your position? Or are you just offering your opinion? Sir Knype, Chief Medical Officer of the Oatcake knows a lot more about covid than Vallance. Looks at the stats from the WHO from across Northern Europe for the same timeframe and miraculosuly they are all going in the same direction, the others didn't have any such scheme?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 22, 2023 10:10:40 GMT
Why can't he? What he said is not true but if its his opinion surely its fine to post? Are you admin? thanks , yes i agree regarding my original comment , it is very unlikely that liebour have lost the terrorist vote . I'm surprised the lefties on here weren't happy about it .
It's a frightening prospect that Labour might need terrorist supporters to secure a majority , i wonder what the price will be to reflect that support ? Funny how hamas supporters can walk the streets of london and get the backing of the lefties on here on the grounds of free speech and yet they don't want me to exercise my right to criticise them .
You still fail to answer the original question, put to you by at least three people now.
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Post by knype on Nov 22, 2023 10:12:14 GMT
The data from all over Europe shows that lots of countries without the scheme also peaked at a similar time, did Eat out to Help out cause that also? Why on earth would it, there were no similar schemes in Europe. Sir Patrick Vallance Chief Medical Officer for England believes it was responsible for Deaths in England Any comment that Ministers including Sunak were aware that it was risky and that Rishi felt it was "OK" to "let people die" to avoid another lockdown Twice now you have quoted the "Data" without offering any Do you have anything of substance to support your position? Or are you just offering your opinion? Have a look on the WHO site, you will find it if you need to? Attachments:
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 22, 2023 10:23:50 GMT
Why can't he? What he said is not true but if its his opinion surely its fine to post? Are you admin? thanks , yes i agree regarding my original comment , it is very unlikely that liebour have lost the terrorist vote . I'm surprised the lefties on here weren't happy about it .
It's a frightening prospect that Labour might need terrorist supporters to secure a majority , i wonder what the price will be to reflect that support ? Funny how hamas supporters can walk the streets of london and get the backing of the lefties on here on the grounds of free speech and yet they don't want me to exercise my right to criticise them .
We had the Workington man, we now have terrorists votes! How do we define ourselves as a “terrorist voter”? How many exist in each constituency? Many thousands it seems if they are essential to secure a majority!? Presumably these terrorists backed Johnson in 2019 given the size of his majority.
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