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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 13, 2023 12:14:09 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 13, 2023 12:14:43 GMT
A perfect use of the word "twat" I bet Pamela Anderson had to ask Corbyn to translate The first twat is funny on its own but that second , exasperated use of the term makes is so, so perfect. Strong Roy Keane vibes....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 13, 2023 12:15:20 GMT
There could well be a General Election...sooner than you think.
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Post by satoshi on Nov 13, 2023 12:16:19 GMT
Well, it’s not dull is it. Bonkers day. The people should have more say over these decisions, including the unelected Prime Minister.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 12:18:27 GMT
No Which is why the sudden wish for fifty plus one is irrelevant Though I do believe that leave received the highest ever number of votes ( I may be wrong) However if you wish to equate the Brexit vote to a GE (which it isn't) then presumably we should re-run the referendum every 5 years? But as they're not comparable then an absolute majority on referenda is not an unreasonable pre- condition. In fear of this becoming the Brexit thread, I’ll just say this: In what world has anyone on here demanded everything in a contract negotiation where they held fairly limited power (50-50, at best) and simply got it? That’s rarely how life works, so why would anyone expect it to happen like that in politics? Absolutely every election, a party provides a manifesto. Many of the points on the manifesto remain unachieved/worse after the party left. Why would anyone think it would be different when a party has to engage with another body to finalize a deal? You either have to be a little daft or just put no thought into it. Edit: I perhaps should have quoted the original person who was complaining for “out means out” etc.
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 13, 2023 12:25:51 GMT
unelected prime minister, brings in a ex-mp lord, as foreign secretary. Will any brexiteers rage against this? Surely it's worse than the being controlled by the unelected Eu isn't it?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 13, 2023 12:27:38 GMT
True story: my wife once made Cameron pick up dog shit. With his mouth, I hope.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 12:34:38 GMT
unelected prime minister, brings in a ex-mp lord, as foreign secretary. Will any brexiteers rage against this? Surely it's worse than the being controlled by the unelected Eu isn't it? A PM is never directly elected. You vote for your local constituent. The Monarch elects the Leader of whatever party with the largest vote into power. In my opinion, they can change PM and cabinet as they like. The only thing they shouldn’t be able to touch without some sort of referendum is their manifesto (which they seem to change weekly). Just because many people feel like they are voting for the party leader, it doesn’t make it so.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 13, 2023 12:35:53 GMT
Danny Dyer finally gets an answer. /mediaViewer?currentTweet=1723995826744115678¤tTweetUser=jamieeast That “twat” at the end 😂 From a Twat...
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 13, 2023 12:44:11 GMT
unelected prime minister, brings in a ex-mp lord, as foreign secretary. Will any brexiteers rage against this? Surely it's worse than the being controlled by the unelected Eu isn't it? A PM is never directly elected. You vote for your local constituent. The Monarch elects the Leader of whatever party with the largest vote into power. In my opinion, they can change PM and cabinet as they like. The only thing they shouldn’t be able to touch without some sort of referendum is their manifesto (which they seem to change weekly). Just because many people feel like they are voting for the party leader, it doesn’t make it so. this line is always trotted out ... it was ok when people were voting for boris then? not their local mp? you can't have it both ways. but not even the tory party members voted for rishi, so yes, he is totally unelected.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 13, 2023 12:46:33 GMT
I think it's becoming apparent that Sunak has decided that the only chance (if any) that he's got in a GE, is to drop the right of the party. Braverman isn’t right wing. She’s just an asshole. She believed in big government more than anyone. Look at how much she wanted to control the police. That’s not right wing. Of course she's right wing and she's the poster child of the right of the party. You're right about her being an asshole mind.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 12:46:47 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary?
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Post by henry on Nov 13, 2023 12:49:23 GMT
Has she been on the phone to Ant & Dec yet ?
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Post by Veritas on Nov 13, 2023 12:50:37 GMT
I think it's becoming apparent that Sunak has decided that the only chance (if any) that he's got in a GE, is to drop the right of the party. You may be correct but he has just fired the starting gun on a Tory civil war which probably won't help
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 13, 2023 12:51:18 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? Bozza Johnstone
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 13, 2023 12:51:19 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 13, 2023 12:51:40 GMT
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Post by 828492 on Nov 13, 2023 12:52:00 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? David Lammy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 12:52:18 GMT
A PM is never directly elected. You vote for your local constituent. The Monarch elects the Leader of whatever party with the largest vote into power. In my opinion, they can change PM and cabinet as they like. The only thing they shouldn’t be able to touch without some sort of referendum is their manifesto (which they seem to change weekly). Just because many people feel like they are voting for the party leader, it doesn’t make it so. this line is always trotted out ... it was ok when people were voting for boris then? not their local mp? you can't have it both ways. but not even the tory party members voted for rishi, so yes, he is totally unelected. “it was ok when people were voting for boris then? not their local mp? you can't have it both ways.” Yes, because they weren’t. They were hoping to vote for Boris but actually just voting for their local MP. Perhaps civics classes need to go back into schools (not a slight at you there, I just mean in general).
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 13, 2023 12:52:23 GMT
unelected prime minister, brings in a ex-mp lord, as foreign secretary. Will any brexiteers rage against this? Surely it's worse than the being controlled by the unelected Eu isn't it? Indeed. Brexit was about ditching unelected burecrats and now we've got an unelected PM appointing a foreign secretary who isn't even an elected MP, who can't be scrutinised by other MP's, whilst we have two major wars raging. If you continue the precedent to it's logical conclusion, there is nothing to stop Sunak filling his entire cabinet with unelected Lords that will never have to account to the HOC. Democracy eh?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 13, 2023 12:55:08 GMT
The next headline “ he’s getting rid of all the women”
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 13, 2023 12:55:34 GMT
I think it's becoming apparent that Sunak has decided that the only chance (if any) that he's got in a GE, is to drop the right of the party. You may be correct but he has just fired the starting gun on a Tory civil war which probably won't help No question and that's kind of what I was getting at. He's decided that there is no longer any point in trying to keep them on board and taking everything into account, he's going to be better in no longer attempting to pacify them. I see Coffey has just been sacked too ...
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 13, 2023 13:05:34 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? David Lammy Novel approach Replace one racist arsehole with another
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2023 13:13:49 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2023 13:14:53 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? Tommy Robinson, Laurence Fox....
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2023 13:16:25 GMT
Has any PM ever won 50% plus 1 of the entire electorate? No Which is why the sudden wish for fifty plus one is irrelevant Though I do believe that leave received the highest ever number of votes ( I may be wrong) a referendum has two options yes or no so only ever going to get >50 <50 any other vote has multiple options not really comparing like for like , meaningless to compare a GE with a referendum
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Nov 13, 2023 13:21:47 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? Big Nige will be gutted when he gets out and picks up his voicemail from Sunak asking to speak 😉
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2023 13:24:38 GMT
Genuinely wonder where the government will go next, it's like a parody or a farce, it's almost impossible to come up with a scenario that is too far-fetched The governance of this country has turned us into an absolute laughing stock since 2016, and that's without considering all the damage that was set in motion before that point that is coming to fruition now: NHS waiting lists, strikes, crumbling schools, etc...
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Post by elystokie on Nov 13, 2023 13:27:11 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? Aureliuspotter..
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2023 13:27:25 GMT
Ok everyone, who would have been your pick for foreign secretary? Aureliuspotter..
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