|
Post by knype on Oct 13, 2023 8:01:28 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club! Priceless Guilt conscience?
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 8:21:20 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 8:21:59 GMT
Priceless Guilt conscience? WTAF are you raving on about now?
|
|
|
Post by wagsastokie on Oct 13, 2023 8:34:09 GMT
They didn't save his life because they were migrants, they saved his life because they were doctors. A British doctor would have done the same. Most migrants aren't doctors, the ones that are I welcome with open arms. Who wouldn't. I do think we've got more than enough warehouse workers though π Have we got enough crop pickers? No but maybe if farmers actually employed people and paid at least the minimum wage Rather than sub the work out to gang masters who over decades have exploited the immigrant labour offering very few rights or proper wages Than maybe we would have people willing to for fill these jobs
|
|
|
Post by Eggybread on Oct 13, 2023 8:53:17 GMT
Have we got enough crop pickers? No but maybe if farmers actually employed people and paid at least the minimum wage Rather than sub the work out to gang masters who over decades have exploited the immigrant labour offering very few rights or proper wages Than maybe we would have people willing to for fill these jobs But the people demand cheap food. Higher wages higher prices.
|
|
|
Post by knype on Oct 13, 2023 9:15:34 GMT
WTAF are you raving on about now? Your delusional anti-Tory obsession
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 9:46:02 GMT
WTAF are you raving on about now? Your delusional anti-Tory obsession They've run this country into the ground mate. I have every justification.
|
|
|
Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 13, 2023 9:47:44 GMT
Your delusional anti-Tory obsession They've run this country into the ground mate. I have every justification. Here we go π
|
|
|
Post by wagsastokie on Oct 13, 2023 9:50:57 GMT
No but maybe if farmers actually employed people and paid at least the minimum wage Rather than sub the work out to gang masters who over decades have exploited the immigrant labour offering very few rights or proper wages Than maybe we would have people willing to for fill these jobs But the people demand cheap food. Higher wages higher prices. Well Iβd hate to see what non cheap food would look like Itβs not necessarily higher wages itβs proper regulation and workers rights that need changing To increase willingness to work in the industry Too many farmers have for decades been allowed to To freelance there labour needs and taking no responsibility for conditions And as for food costs maybe people should start looking at something different to the production In 2022 Tesco made 2.65 billon profit Every little bit helps I hate to see when they allegedly stop helping
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 10:01:21 GMT
They've run this country into the ground mate. I have every justification. Here we go π Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, thank you.
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 10:06:11 GMT
|
|
|
Post by essexstokey on Oct 13, 2023 10:12:47 GMT
A spring and summer if quiet as the tory boys hid under a stone oh bless They've now returned with lies misinformation and name calling all from the tory central office playbook how predictable Election in the air me thinks then we can see the circus leave town and these clowns go with them
Vote anti tory in May
|
|
|
Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 13, 2023 10:14:07 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day. Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant. Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist. And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse. Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool. Sorry to hear about your dad Paul.......
|
|
|
Post by Eggybread on Oct 13, 2023 11:00:59 GMT
But the people demand cheap food. Higher wages higher prices. Well Iβd hate to see what non cheap food would look like Itβs not necessarily higher wages itβs proper regulation and workers rights that need changing To increase willingness to work in the industry Too many farmers have for decades been allowed to To freelance there labour needs and taking no responsibility for conditions And as for food costs maybe people should start looking at something different to the production In 2022 Tesco made 2.65 billon profit Every little bit helps I hate to see when they allegedly stop helping I agree mate but thats capitalism for you. Supply and demand, exploitation etc etc.
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Oct 13, 2023 11:05:36 GMT
Have we got enough crop pickers? No but maybe if farmers actually employed people and paid at least the minimum wage Rather than sub the work out to gang masters who over decades have exploited the immigrant labour offering very few rights or proper wages Than maybe we would have people willing to for fill these jobs Gangmastery should be illegal
|
|
|
Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 13, 2023 12:00:52 GMT
Well Iβd hate to see what non cheap food would look like Itβs not necessarily higher wages itβs proper regulation and workers rights that need changing To increase willingness to work in the industry Too many farmers have for decades been allowed to To freelance there labour needs and taking no responsibility for conditions And as for food costs maybe people should start looking at something different to the production In 2022 Tesco made 2.65 billon profit Every little bit helps I hate to see when they allegedly stop helping I agree mate but thats capitalism for you. Supply and demand, exploitation etc etc. Exactly. Whilst not wishing for communism or central planning Chinese style, there is an indisputable irony about the naivety of those who vote on a regular basis for parties which promise de-regulation, laissez-faire free-market economics and small government, then make comments like the above. There is a link!
|
|
|
Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 13, 2023 12:07:27 GMT
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, thank you. Oh I'm defo not trying to imitate you mate. Just the opposite in fact
|
|
|
Post by essexstokey on Oct 13, 2023 12:21:28 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club! I don't want anyone banned but for your drivel in any of your various guise I can see an exception Start debating with fact not fiction and avoid fake news Oh and don't result to insults when you lose an argument it only shows up your lack of intelligence
|
|
|
Post by knype on Oct 13, 2023 12:40:00 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club! I don't want anyone banned but for your drivel in any of your various guise I can see an exception Start debating with fact not fiction and avoid fake news Oh and don't result to insults when you lose an argument it only shows up your lack of intelligence Coming from you that's astonishing. I have 1 username π€£π€£π€£
|
|
|
Post by mrcoke on Oct 13, 2023 13:11:36 GMT
This is not in the least surprising or all that bad. 1. The fact that the UK has grown our renewable energy production from wind and solar, and virtually eliminated coal, and achieved an energy surplus at times is to be commended. Would people prefer we continued our massive dependence on imported energy? 2. The fact there are times when the generation exceeds usage is understandable as the nation's usage does not match when the wind blows or the sun shines is an unavoidable fact. 3. We do not have the energy transmission and storage resources in place to move power around the country from where it is generated to where it is used when generation is at a maximum. Hopefully it will improve (if has to!) but it will take decades. There's a pylon coming near you! 4. The UK was in the (fortunate) position of being able to sell surplus electricity as France , which usually has a surplus and export, but had a deficit due to many of their nuclear power stations out of service for maintenance. 5. The surplus power will have been sold at wholesale price, covering the marginal cost of production. UK consumers pay the retail price which covers all the costs of production including gas/coal/wood etc., depreciation, employment, maintenance, and of course profits to the retailer, producer, distributer, etc. There has been an agreement made with the Netherlands to export wind power from the North Sea into Europe's grid. The sale price will be much lower than UK consumers' price. 6. An exceptional reason for excess energy may be the government probably committed to buy liquid gas from elsewhere in the world to ensure supplies because of the war in Ukraine. Sunak is right to give the go ahead for more investment in oil and gas in the North Sea to increase self sufficiency which will inevitably result in surplus energy at times which will be sold for whatever the customer is prepared to pay. This week's events in the Middle East show how vulnerable the UK is to dependace on oil and liquid gas from that part of the world. If one of the Arab nations weighs in in support of the Palestinians and attacks Israel we could have all out war. Remember Sadam Hussain?
|
|
|
Post by OldStokie on Oct 13, 2023 13:17:08 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day. Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant. Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist. And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse. Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool. Best wishes to your father for a full recovery, Paul. I had a similar experience during a stay in hospital in March. Most of the consultants and many of the staff who cared for me were immigrants. They were brilliant and I cannot praise them highly enough. Without immigrants our NHS would collapse completely. M.
|
|
|
Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2023 15:27:08 GMT
Just caught up with Question Time, I despise the woman but even I was almost feeling sorry for her, it was bad enough that Victoria Atkins received zero applause for any of her statements but to have the audience openly laughing out loud at you must have been hard to take.
|
|
|
Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 13, 2023 16:05:27 GMT
Just caught up with Question Time, I despise the woman but even I was almost feeling sorry for her, it was bad enough that Victoria Atkins received zero applause for any of her statements but to have the audience openly laughing out loud at you must have been hard to take. I feel more sorry for the audience tbh. The audience isn't neutral they are hand picked because of their biases. The audience don't reflect the views of the average man on the street.
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 16:07:35 GMT
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, thank you. Oh I'm defo not trying to imitate you mate. Just the opposite in fact Well...you're doing a pretty shit job mate.π
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 16:10:16 GMT
This is not in the least surprising or all that bad. 1. The fact that the UK has grown our renewable energy production from wind and solar, and virtually eliminated coal, and achieved an energy surplus at times is to be commended. Would people prefer we continued our massive dependence on imported energy? 2. The fact there are times when the generation exceeds usage is understandable as the nation's usage does not match when the wind blows or the sun shines is an unavoidable fact. 3. We do not have the energy transmission and storage resources in place to move power around the country from where it is generated to where it is used when generation is at a maximum. Hopefully it will improve (if has to!) but it will take decades. There's a pylon coming near you! 4. The UK was in the (fortunate) position of being able to sell surplus electricity as France , which usually has a surplus and export, but had a deficit due to many of their nuclear power stations out of service for maintenance.Β 5. The surplus power will have been sold at wholesale price, covering the marginal cost of production. UK consumers pay the retail price which covers all the costs of production including gas/coal/wood etc., depreciation, employment, maintenance, and of course profits to the retailer, producer, distributer, etc. There has been an agreement made with the Netherlands to export wind power from the North Sea into Europe's grid. The sale price will be much lower than UK consumers' price. 6. An exceptional reason for excess energy may be the government probably committed to buy liquid gas from elsewhere in the world to ensure supplies because of the war in Ukraine. Sunak is right to give the go ahead for more investment in oil and gas in the North Sea to increase self sufficiency which will inevitably result in surplus energy at times which will be sold for whatever the customer is prepared to pay. This week's events in the Middle East show how vulnerable the UK is to dependace on oil and liquid gas from that part of the world. If one of the Arab nations weighs in in support of the Palestinians and attacks Israel we could have all out war. Remember Sadam Hussain? You do realise it's going to take at least 6 years for the new fields to come on stream? And will be sold on the open market? Tell me where is the benefit to the UK?
|
|
|
Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 13, 2023 16:12:16 GMT
Oh I'm defo not trying to imitate you mate. Just the opposite in fact Well...you're doing a pretty shit job mate.π Only in your head kidda, only in your head π
|
|
|
Post by stokeson on Oct 13, 2023 16:13:53 GMT
Just caught up with Question Time, I despise the woman but even I was almost feeling sorry for her, it was bad enough that Victoria Atkins received zero applause for any of her statements but to have the audience openly laughing out loud at you must have been hard to take. I feel more sorry for the audience tbh. The audience isn't neutral they are hand picked because of their biases. The audience don't reflect the views of the average man on the street. The audience is picked on the votes cast in the last election so mainly Brexit voting Torys
|
|
|
Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 13, 2023 16:15:22 GMT
I feel more sorry for the audience tbh. The audience isn't neutral they are hand picked because of their biases. The audience don't reflect the views of the average man on the street. The audience is picked on the votes cast in the last election so mainly Brexit voting Torys Ye probably. The lefty ones.
|
|
|
Post by stokeson on Oct 13, 2023 16:18:13 GMT
The audience is picked on the votes cast in the last election so mainly Brexit voting Torys Ye probably. The lefty ones. Mate you have just made me laugh outloud....Thank you,,
|
|
|
Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 13, 2023 16:24:04 GMT
Ye probably. The lefty ones. Mate you have just made me laugh outloud....Thank you,, I haven't....but thanks for entertaining the rest of us
|
|