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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 12, 2023 19:30:29 GMT
The 3 most important doctors in my son’s health scare last year were migrants. Certainly two of them saved his life, and the third was massive in his recovery. Many of the nurses that were one to one with him, day and night (he was 3 weeks old) were migrants. Many were Brits. The point is, migrants are essential. Some are bad. Most are good. But this myth that they are to blame for our society’s problems is just a myth. Take away all the foreigners and our problems will not disappear. The easiest people to blame them on will have disappeared though. They didn't save his life because they were migrants, they saved his life because they were doctors. A British doctor would of done the same. Most migrants aren't doctors, the ones that are I welcome with open arms. Who wouldn't. I do think we've got more than enough warehouse workers though 👀 Have we got enough crop pickers?
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Post by knype on Oct 12, 2023 19:32:15 GMT
They didn't save his life because they were migrants, they saved his life because they were doctors. A British doctor would of done the same. Most migrants aren't doctors, the ones that are I welcome with open arms. Who wouldn't. I do think we've got more than enough warehouse workers though 👀 Have we got enough crop pickers? Too many car washers
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 12, 2023 19:46:34 GMT
Have we got enough crop pickers? Too many car washers So that's the NHS and agriculture that'd fall apart without migrant labour...much like your 'argument', ironically enough 🤣 Shame our local car washers left they used to do a great job.
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Post by knype on Oct 12, 2023 19:50:33 GMT
So that's the NHS and agriculture that'd fall apart without migrant labour...much like your 'argument', ironically enough 🤣 Shame our local car washers left they used to do a great job. My argument?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 12, 2023 19:58:34 GMT
So that's the NHS and agriculture that'd fall apart without migrant labour...much like your 'argument', ironically enough 🤣 Shame our local car washers left they used to do a great job. No they don’t
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 12, 2023 20:00:54 GMT
So that's the NHS and agriculture that'd fall apart without migrant labour...much like your 'argument', ironically enough 🤣 Shame our local car washers left they used to do a great job. No they don’t Better than my window cleaner Sinbad 😆
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 12, 2023 20:34:40 GMT
The 3 most important doctors in my son’s health scare last year were migrants. Certainly two of them saved his life, and the third was massive in his recovery. Many of the nurses that were one to one with him, day and night (he was 3 weeks old) were migrants. Many were Brits. The point is, migrants are essential. Some are bad. Most are good. But this myth that they are to blame for our society’s problems is just a myth. Take away all the foreigners and our problems will not disappear. The easiest people to blame them on will have disappeared though. They didn't save his life because they were migrants, they saved his life because they were doctors. A British doctor would of done the same. Most migrants aren't doctors, the ones that are I welcome with open arms. Who wouldn't. I do think we've got more than enough warehouse workers though 👀 But without the migrant doctors, the chronic shortage of doctors would be even worse and there may not have been another doctor there quick enough to save my son’s life. We don’t have more than enough warehouse workers, or waiting staff or doctors or nurses or pretty much every job. Not without migrants.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 20:36:32 GMT
They didn't save his life because they were migrants, they saved his life because they were doctors. A British doctor would of done the same. Most migrants aren't doctors, the ones that are I welcome with open arms. Who wouldn't. I do think we've got more than enough warehouse workers though 👀 But without the migrant doctors, the chronic shortage of doctors would be even worse and there may not have been another doctor there quick enough to save my son’s life. We don’t have more than enough warehouse workers, or waiting staff or doctors or nurses or pretty much every job. Not without migrants. I disagree with everything you say there mate.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 12, 2023 20:45:53 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 12, 2023 20:52:33 GMT
According to the govts own figures we have 7.5% vacancies for doctors. We also have 35% of all doctors not being British. Add the two together and without migrants we would have 42% of all doctor positions vacant. The health service would collapse. A recent survey by the Chartered Institute of Logistics and Transport last yearshowed that 86% of their nembers were experiencing shortages of warehouse operatives.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 21:12:43 GMT
Some wards are some aren't. Some departments are some aren't. The nhs isn't understaffed when it comes to management and 'equality and diversity officers though' 🙄
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2023 21:14:26 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day.
Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant.
Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist.
And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse.
Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 21:20:58 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day. Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant. Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist. And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse. Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool. They would be in London though 👀 They don't speak for or represent all migrants though. Plenty of migrants don't work or do shitty minimum wage jobs that Brits could do.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2023 21:22:05 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day. Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant. Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist. And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse. Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool. They would be in London though 👀 They don't speak for or represent all migrants though. Plenty of migrants don't work or do shitty minimum wage jobs that Brits could do. And your point is?
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Post by frasier37 on Oct 12, 2023 21:29:28 GMT
i was about to put this on the "what you listening to" thread but it fits this thread also
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 21:34:01 GMT
They would be in London though 👀 They don't speak for or represent all migrants though. Plenty of migrants don't work or do shitty minimum wage jobs that Brits could do. And your point is? It speaks for itself.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2023 21:35:29 GMT
Oh yes, I keep forgetting how your logic works.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 21:35:48 GMT
i was about to put this on the "what you listening to" thread but it fits this thread also "If you manipulate the data then the lie will tell itself".....ain't that the truth
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 21:36:07 GMT
Oh yes, I keep forgetting how your logic works. Silly me ... Works better than yours Silly you...
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 12, 2023 21:54:09 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day. Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant. Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist. And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse. Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool. They would be in London though 👀 They don't speak for or represent all migrants though. Plenty of migrants don't work or do shitty minimum wage jobs that Brits could do. Most migrants who come here to live and don’t work are rich. Else how do they meet our immigration requirements?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 0:28:58 GMT
As a current immigrant in another country, a grandson of a Polish immigrant (Red Cross following WW2) and the husband of a Chinese-American immigrant, I’m all for them.
I like how the same conversation now dominates every thread though, it saves so much time not having to shift between them.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 6:25:29 GMT
Virtual Hospitals.... Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 13, 2023 7:07:13 GMT
As a current immigrant in another country, a grandson of a Polish immigrant (Red Cross following WW2) and the husband of a Chinese-American immigrant, I’m all for them. I like how the same conversation now dominates every thread though, it saves so much time not having to shift between them. Funny that, isn't it, since the return of certain individuals! The "open, mature, adult" debate that some people were so keen to have these individuals back for always seems to come down to the same conclusions: "it's all the fault of people I don't like" and "I'm right, you're wrong. I won't accept any evidence that might prove otherwise".
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2023 7:24:59 GMT
As a current immigrant in another country, a grandson of a Polish immigrant (Red Cross following WW2) and the husband of a Chinese-American immigrant, I’m all for them. I like how the same conversation now dominates every thread though, it saves so much time not having to shift between them. Funny that, isn't it, since the return of certain individuals! The "open, mature, adult" debate that some people were so keen to have these individuals back for always seems to come down to the same conclusions: "it's all the fault of people I don't like" and "I'm right, you're wrong. I won't accept any evidence that might prove otherwise". It's certainly taken on a lot more of a Primary School playground vibe since the troll re-appeared.
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Post by knype on Oct 13, 2023 7:29:24 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club!
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2023 7:38:53 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club! It's up to admin who gets banned, why would the 'lefty's' have any more influence than anyone else? 'Another poster' It's the same one time after time 😂😂
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Post by knype on Oct 13, 2023 7:40:59 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club! It's up to admin who gets banned, why would the 'lefty's' have any more influence than anyone else? 'Another poster' It's the same one time after time 😂😂 Can you say that 100% it's the same poster though? I am sure the DM facility will be getting hammered
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 13, 2023 7:42:13 GMT
Looks like lefty's are gonna left and another poster will soon be assigned to the banned club! Priceless
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 13, 2023 7:43:55 GMT
My father is seriously ill in a London hospital and I visit him every day. Every (and I mean EVERY) professional I come into contact with each day, is an immigrant. Be it doctor, nurse, occupational therapist, porter, receptionist, physiotherapist, psychologist, administrative assistant, cleaner, caterer or radiologist. And when I say immigrant, I don't mean sons and daughters of second, third or fouth generation immigrants but brand new immigrants, immigrants who without, the NHS would completely collapse. Anybody who doesn't value (nevermind not understand) the contribution that immigration has on our society, is quite frankly an absolute fool. I hope he gets better soon 🙏
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2023 7:45:01 GMT
It's up to admin who gets banned, why would the 'lefty's' have any more influence than anyone else? 'Another poster' It's the same one time after time 😂😂 Can you say that 100% it's the same poster though? I am sure the DM facility will be getting hammered Of course not, as a fellow 'untouchabke' 😃 I'm sure you're aware that even we don't have access to that information 🙂 However there are these things called 'post histories' and consistent grammatical errors can be quite indicative 😉
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