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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 4, 2023 6:50:01 GMT
Yea, but so are Fisherman's Friend, would you like to suck one? like Cruella they're Menthol I've sucked loads of fisherman's friends 😳 menthols good for clearing the airways, they're good when you have a cold. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 4, 2023 6:52:45 GMT
Neoliberal mate....certainly not left wing. Commie rag The Marxist Guardians particularly good for pebbledash mate. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 4, 2023 6:54:27 GMT
Indeed they are. But this is one of the unfortunate negatives of Brexit that nobody foresaw. A lot of the present cabinet, cut their political teeth during the Brexit campaign, during which, they saw that a campaign of blatant lying, not only didn't result in any negative consequence for the perpetrators but it also delivered a win.
And they now believe that you can successfully run a country using the same tactics, using three word slogans and telling complete untruths ... you can't.
Of course in the past, politicians have distorted the truth and twisted statistics to suit their agenda but since Brexit, we now live in an age where just making up any old shit, has apparently, become perfectly acceptable.
I disagree with the Brexit part. There was always a debate and opinions (regardless of what view was taken) were challenged. IMO covid allowed this lot to run riot as neither the opposition or the media ever questioned what was going on. Brexit was lie after lie after lie from the leave campaign, versus gloomy prediction after gloomy prediction after gloomy prediction from remain. The lies were lies so were and still are untrue. The gloomy predictions got the trends right but were exaggerated. Now is it any surprise that a PM was guilty of lying to Parliament repeatedly. Particularly as he was the biggest liar of the lot in the leave campaign. The tories have lowered the bar so far. While labour are not exempt either, they are just at the normal level of lies and misrepresentation. The tories are full on bullshitting us with almost everything they say. Hopefully at the election they are punished for it. |
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Post by henry on Oct 4, 2023 7:03:13 GMT
Sunak concerned over spending billions on infrastructure but was happy to hand over billions for an eerrr... phone app.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 4, 2023 7:03:26 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 7:49:59 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 7:58:41 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 4, 2023 8:10:55 GMT
People of stoke probably won't know this but Sadike represents all Farley and reaches out to al communitys |
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 4, 2023 11:49:20 GMT
"Sunak" Proposed smoking ban for anyone under 14.Therefore anyone under 14 will never be allowed to smoke legally.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 12:09:54 GMT
"Sunak" Proposed smoking ban for anyone under 14.Therefore anyone under 14 will never be allowed to smoke legally. Haha. Conservatives are supposed to be all about reduced government intervention etc and they want to ban choices for education and lifestyle. Something doesn’t add up there. Personally, I couldn’t care less about smoking one way or another. Though, I don’t see why he should stop there. There are no health benefits to alcohol or McDonald’s. Perhaps they should be ousted as well. Making both Maths and English mandatory until 18 seems odd though. At A-level, you typically make 4 choices to decide what to learn. Now you will only have 2? Or will they reduce expectation and increase the number of classes? |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 4, 2023 12:22:39 GMT
"Sunak" Proposed smoking ban for anyone under 14.Therefore anyone under 14 will never be allowed to smoke legally. Haha. Conservatives are supposed to be all about reduced government intervention etc and they want to ban choices for education and lifestyle. Something doesn’t add up there. Personally, I couldn’t care less about smoking one way or another. Though, I don’t see why he should stop there. There are no health benefits to alcohol or McDonald’s. Perhaps they should be ousted as well. Making both Maths and English mandatory until 18 seems odd though. At A-level, you typically make 4 choices to decide what to learn. Now you will only have 2? Or will they reduce expectation and increase the number of classes? If the exact wording is maths and English compulsory to 18 is this raising the school leaving age by stelth |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 12:22:39 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 12:24:07 GMT
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Post by adri2008 on Oct 4, 2023 12:39:31 GMT
Braverman will appeal to the Conservative Party members who love to hear 'tough on immigration' rhetoric. Immigration is a necessity though - without an expanding tax base, the Ponzi scheme state pension doesn't work so it's a choice of import workers, persuade people to have more children (obviously a medium term goal) or raise pension age and/or cut it. Nobody will of course grasp the aging population nettle though as it's a vote loser.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 12:39:32 GMT
Haha. Conservatives are supposed to be all about reduced government intervention etc and they want to ban choices for education and lifestyle. Something doesn’t add up there. Personally, I couldn’t care less about smoking one way or another. Though, I don’t see why he should stop there. There are no health benefits to alcohol or McDonald’s. Perhaps they should be ousted as well. Making both Maths and English mandatory until 18 seems odd though. At A-level, you typically make 4 choices to decide what to learn. Now you will only have 2? Or will they reduce expectation and increase the number of classes? If the exact wording is maths and English compulsory to 18 is this raising the school leaving age by stelth You have to be in school or apprenticeship until 18 anyways. I imagine that this is just saying that any people who decide on A-Levels will need to take these two. It’s a great way to take away people’s interest in education and push them down a low paid apprenticeship route. I took Maths, Bio, Chem and History for my A-Levels. I would have been heartbroken not to have taken my History. It was the one class at the time that I actually loved (the rest were career choices). |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 4, 2023 13:13:28 GMT
If the exact wording is maths and English compulsory to 18 is this raising the school leaving age by stelth You have to be in school or apprenticeship until 18 anyways. I imagine that this is just saying that any people who decide on A-Levels will need to take these two. It’s a great way to take away people’s interest in education and push them down a low paid apprenticeship route. I took Maths, Bio, Chem and History for my A-Levels. I would have been heartbroken not to have taken my History. It was the one class at the time that I actually loved (the rest were career choices). When did this change as was 16 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 4, 2023 13:14:52 GMT
This is very good.......
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Post by cerebralstokie on Oct 4, 2023 13:22:45 GMT
People of stoke probably won't know this but Sadike represents all Farley and reaches out to al communitys See now, didn't the Bamford family once live at Farley Hall? I'll bet he's representing their interests. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 13:34:15 GMT
You have to be in school or apprenticeship until 18 anyways. I imagine that this is just saying that any people who decide on A-Levels will need to take these two. It’s a great way to take away people’s interest in education and push them down a low paid apprenticeship route. I took Maths, Bio, Chem and History for my A-Levels. I would have been heartbroken not to have taken my History. It was the one class at the time that I actually loved (the rest were career choices). When did this change as was 16 “ In September 2014 the education leaving age was raised to 17, and from September 2015 it was raised to 18.[24] However, these changes admit becoming an apprentice, having a full time or part-time job to enroll into, or going to college as alternatives to school.” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_of_school_leaving_ageAccording to Wiki. That feels about right to me. I seem to recall it happening roughly when I left the UK, which was in 2016. |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 4, 2023 13:45:23 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Oct 4, 2023 14:10:07 GMT
Brilliant. I'll be sharing that. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 14:40:28 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 14:49:52 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 15:41:04 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 4, 2023 15:48:05 GMT
This shows just how much they 'care' about the North, either they don't even realise that this was actually built 10 years ago, or they think that we're all so fuckin thick, that they can get away with promising us something that we already have. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 4, 2023 15:50:04 GMT
And tomorrow they'll take credit for it being on time in budget.... |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Oct 4, 2023 18:13:27 GMT
7 bins, meat tax,
33 year olds one day being able to sell black market ciggies to those 32 or under.
Tell me they ain't making it up on the fly.
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 4, 2023 18:33:20 GMT
Sunak.... a load of bullshit backed up with some homophobia and he thinks the people will buy it. Now let's see how Starmer deals with his lies and deceit. I won't put my shirt on him doing it but it will test his mettle.
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Post by Gawa on Oct 4, 2023 20:53:10 GMT
The wind of change which allows small boats to cross the channel is a mere gust compared to the hurricane of immigrants welcomed through the front door by the Tories.
Because today, the option of moving from a poorer country to a richer one is not just a dream for billions of people, it is an entirely realistic prospect
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2023 20:58:21 GMT
Bizarre....
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