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Post by Gawa on Sept 21, 2023 9:17:56 GMT
I think they can define biology but they choose not to because they are scared of upsetting the woke crowd and blurring the lines between what a man is and what a women is works in their favour. That's kind of my point. The way he was trying to answer that question without committing either way simply reveals his slimy not to be trusted nature. Just answer the bloody question "man" 😆 Then again I can't remember the last politician I felt was actually genuine and actually in politics to try and help everybody  |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 9:19:34 GMT
That's kind of my point. The way he was trying to answer that question without committing either way simply reveals his slimy not to be trusted nature. Just answer the bloody question "man" 😆 Then again I can't remember the last politician I felt was actually genuine and actually in politics to try and help everybody Lol 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 9:35:08 GMT
That's kind of my point. The way he was trying to answer that question without committing either way simply reveals his slimy not to be trusted nature. Just answer the bloody question "man" 😆 Then again I can't remember the last politician I felt was actually genuine and actually in politics to try and help everybody If Corbyn were to come back, coming back as a ridiculously jacked up old man with a strut would at least be amusing. He could probably do without all the sexual allegations though. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 21, 2023 10:01:57 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 21, 2023 10:02:49 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... Everyone should. Says everything about you that you don't. I'm not surprised in the slightest. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 21, 2023 10:11:29 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... I've never even heard of her. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 10:22:48 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... You got two likes. He got 3.2k likes. So more people seem to care about what Bryant says about it than your criticism of him. Interesting you yet again don’t grapple with the issue someone raises and instead essentially try to undermine with an insult. Do you think the government should be accountable? |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Sept 21, 2023 11:07:36 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... People who care about doing the right thing. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 11:08:53 GMT
I like my leaders to understand basic biology pal. Each to their own but its important to me. I think they do. What nobody really understands (me included) is how to define a woman without insulting someone in society. I bet you can’t. The economy, the rule of law, public services etc. aren’t they more important than the latest culture war? If they aren’t to you, you should vote tory because they only care about distracting idiots with culture wars so they can rob the majority to pay the rich minority. Anyway, hopefully I have identified some key policy areas on which the tories and labour differ so you can stop saying “they are all the same!” You've taught me nowt. Funny how Conservatives are accused of doing the culture wars when other parties are falling over themselves trying to say men can be women and vice versa. So to counter act the nonsense coming from all angles by stating common sense facts means its the tories engaging in culture wars? Its called switch and bait and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker. A bloke in a dress with a large chopper is a bloke not a lass. Dead simple. |
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 11:25:16 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... Everyone should. Says everything about you that you don't. I'm not surprised in the slightest. Why should we ? The bloke is an absolute clown |
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 11:26:30 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... You got two likes. He got 3.2k likes. So more people seem to care about what Bryant says about it than your criticism of him. Interesting you yet again don’t grapple with the issue someone raises and instead essentially try to undermine with an insult. Do you think the government should be accountable? Thats rich about coming back with insults...  |
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 11:27:11 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... People who care about doing the right thing. What is the right thing? Your opinion? His opinion? |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 21, 2023 11:31:02 GMT
Lol, but not the utopia we've been told though hey. Funny how that happens. The truth always outs in the end. Basically they are probably a bit better possibly. You've been fed propaganda but you'll keep denying you've been fooled a bit. Therefore makes sense that we have a sensible open and honest debate. Instead of being told the science has been settled. Or in other words shut up and believe what we say or we'll call you nasty names like climate denier 😆 Not sure anyone ever said they were some kind of panacea, more that they were a better option, taking everything into account over the entire production and lifecycle of their existence. That RAC article appears to confirm that. Seems a pretty fair and balanced article by an organisation which, as far as I'm aware is not pilitically aligned and is simply trying to provide information about this aspect of car travel. Completely agree about having that open debate and that piece makes a decent contribution to it. I think it's pretty obvious that, overall, if you want to make your own contribution towards living a more sustainable life EV is the way to go. Or not replacing your own personal car at all, thus removing that huge CO2 cost of producing the EV in the first place. Difficult to do, but really the direction we should be trying to head in as a society rather than "everyone get an EV and it'll all be ok". To encourage such a shift amongst other things we'd require a huge increase in public and active transport infra, subsidies for small forms of electrical assistance travel like E-bikes (which make much more sense than electric cars for the short single-occupancy car journies which make up a large proportion of trips), huge expansion in car-club schemes, and probably a per mile taxation of car journies which some argue is going to have to come in to replace VED as internal combustion engines are phased out. All of which is probably beyond the capabilities of the government and would be politically toxic because people* are addicted to car ownership and their perceived right to drive everywhere and however they please**. *I have a car too and would be reluctant to lose it, but logically for the greater good I should be pushed away from getting another one, whatever energy source powers it. **See opposition to ULEZ/CAZ, 20mph limits, resident's parking zones, willingness to sit in city centre traffic jams on a daily basis. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 11:43:08 GMT
I think they do. What nobody really understands (me included) is how to define a woman without insulting someone in society. I bet you can’t. The economy, the rule of law, public services etc. aren’t they more important than the latest culture war? If they aren’t to you, you should vote tory because they only care about distracting idiots with culture wars so they can rob the majority to pay the rich minority. Anyway, hopefully I have identified some key policy areas on which the tories and labour differ so you can stop saying “they are all the same!” You've taught me nowt. Funny how Conservatives are accused of doing the culture wars when other parties are falling over themselves trying to say men can be women and vice versa. So to counter act the nonsense coming from all angles by stating common sense facts means its the tories engaging in culture wars? Its called switch and bait and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker. A bloke in a dress with a large chopper is a bloke not a lass. Dead simple. So you can’t define a woman either. Google the areas they vary on policy that I suggest and you will learn some differences between the two parties. Once you have done that, if you still think they are the same then you need help understanding the differences. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 11:45:51 GMT
You got two likes. He got 3.2k likes. So more people seem to care about what Bryant says about it than your criticism of him. Interesting you yet again don’t grapple with the issue someone raises and instead essentially try to undermine with an insult. Do you think the government should be accountable? Thats rich about coming back with insults... Where have I insulted you? I ask again, why do you disagree with Bryant for saying the government should stick to the ministerial code and be accountable for their actions and policies? Surely everyone can agree on that as a very basic principle for our leaders? |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 11:50:07 GMT
Not sure anyone ever said they were some kind of panacea, more that they were a better option, taking everything into account over the entire production and lifecycle of their existence. That RAC article appears to confirm that. Seems a pretty fair and balanced article by an organisation which, as far as I'm aware is not pilitically aligned and is simply trying to provide information about this aspect of car travel. Completely agree about having that open debate and that piece makes a decent contribution to it. I think it's pretty obvious that, overall, if you want to make your own contribution towards living a more sustainable life EV is the way to go. Or not replacing your own personal car at all, thus removing that huge CO2 cost of producing the EV in the first place. Difficult to do, but really the direction we should be trying to head in as a society rather than "everyone get an EV and it'll all be ok". To encourage such a shift amongst other things we'd require a huge increase in public and active transport infra, subsidies for small forms of electrical assistance travel like E-bikes (which make much more sense than electric cars for the short single-occupancy car journies which make up a large proportion of trips), huge expansion in car-club schemes, and probably a per mile taxation of car journies which some argue is going to have to come in to replace VED as internal combustion engines are phased out. All of which is probably beyond the capabilities of the government and would be politically toxic because people* are addicted to car ownership and their perceived right to drive everywhere and however they please**. *I have a car too and would be reluctant to lose it, but logically for the greater good I should be pushed away from getting another one, whatever energy source powers it. **See opposition to ULEZ/CAZ, 20mph limits, resident's parking zones, willingness to sit in city centre traffic jams on a daily basis. The tune will change when EVs begin paying the taxes ICE cars pay. They've already worked out EVs damage the road far more cos they weigh miles more than the equivalent ICE motor. They really do weigh a lot more too. Then the Ev owners will be up in arms saying we've been duped. Bit like the people who rushed out and bought the diesels cos the govt telt em to 😆 And round and round we go. From what I've read and as you've said it is better for people to keep hold of their current cars and gradually move people to a cleaner vehicle whatever that cleaner vehicle may end up being. Its also conveniently ignored how much cleaner the emissions on ICE vehicles has become. From today compared to even 10 years ago, the difference is stark. But that never gets mentioned bizarrely. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 11:52:44 GMT
You've taught me nowt. Funny how Conservatives are accused of doing the culture wars when other parties are falling over themselves trying to say men can be women and vice versa. So to counter act the nonsense coming from all angles by stating common sense facts means its the tories engaging in culture wars? Its called switch and bait and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker. A bloke in a dress with a large chopper is a bloke not a lass. Dead simple. So you can’t define a woman either. Google the areas they vary on policy that I suggest and you will learn some differences between the two parties. Once you have done that, if you still think they are the same then you need help understanding the differences. Lol. How'd you work that one out. I know very well what a woman is tar very much. Need no help from yoos with that one. |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 21, 2023 12:00:54 GMT
I think they do. What nobody really understands (me included) is how to define a woman without insulting someone in society. I bet you can’t. The economy, the rule of law, public services etc. aren’t they more important than the latest culture war? If they aren’t to you, you should vote tory because they only care about distracting idiots with culture wars so they can rob the majority to pay the rich minority. Anyway, hopefully I have identified some key policy areas on which the tories and labour differ so you can stop saying “they are all the same!” You've taught me nowt. Funny how Conservatives are accused of doing the culture wars when other parties are falling over themselves trying to say men can be women and vice versa. So to counter act the nonsense coming from all angles by stating common sense facts means its the tories engaging in culture wars? Its called switch and bait and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker. A bloke in a dress with a large chopper is a bloke not a lass. Dead simple. What about a bloke in a dress with a small chopper? Asking for a badger. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 12:06:50 GMT
You've taught me nowt. Funny how Conservatives are accused of doing the culture wars when other parties are falling over themselves trying to say men can be women and vice versa. So to counter act the nonsense coming from all angles by stating common sense facts means its the tories engaging in culture wars? Its called switch and bait and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker. A bloke in a dress with a large chopper is a bloke not a lass. Dead simple. What about a bloke in a dress with a small chopper? Asking for a badger. Lol 😁 |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 21, 2023 12:12:45 GMT
Not sure anyone ever said they were some kind of panacea, more that they were a better option, taking everything into account over the entire production and lifecycle of their existence. That RAC article appears to confirm that. Seems a pretty fair and balanced article by an organisation which, as far as I'm aware is not pilitically aligned and is simply trying to provide information about this aspect of car travel. Completely agree about having that open debate and that piece makes a decent contribution to it. I think it's pretty obvious that, overall, if you want to make your own contribution towards living a more sustainable life EV is the way to go. Or not replacing your own personal car at all, thus removing that huge CO2 cost of producing the EV in the first place. Difficult to do, but really the direction we should be trying to head in as a society rather than "everyone get an EV and it'll all be ok". To encourage such a shift amongst other things we'd require a huge increase in public and active transport infra, subsidies for small forms of electrical assistance travel like E-bikes (which make much more sense than electric cars for the short single-occupancy car journies which make up a large proportion of trips), huge expansion in car-club schemes, and probably a per mile taxation of car journies which some argue is going to have to come in to replace VED as internal combustion engines are phased out. All of which is probably beyond the capabilities of the government and would be politically toxic because people* are addicted to car ownership and their perceived right to drive everywhere and however they please**. *I have a car too and would be reluctant to lose it, but logically for the greater good I should be pushed away from getting another one, whatever energy source powers it. **See opposition to ULEZ/CAZ, 20mph limits, resident's parking zones, willingness to sit in city centre traffic jams on a daily basis. Agree with alot of that. Moving away from an ownership model to a rental/per mile/per journey model would help alot but how do you even do such a shift, especially in more rural areas. In my opinion though I see capitalism as the biggest issue with all this electric vehicle stuff. An electric car has to drive 50,000 miles before it matches the carbon footprint of a petrol car due to the emissions involved in the manufacturing process. A car manufacturer makes most of it's money on selling brand new cars, not selling spare parts. There is no incentive there to make a car which will last and there is no incentive from a large proportion of society to make a car last either. Combine that with some of the ridiculous MOT rules which can make it challenging for older cars in a good condition to pass results in a society which is always wanting to change cars and buy new cars rather than fixing them. If you go to places like Greece, Bulgaria and other eastern european countries you will see alot of older car models as they don't have the same strict MOT's. There are taxi drivers driving skodas with 500k+ miles. But why would Ford, Toyota, Volkswagon, Audi etc.. want to make a car which lasts as long as possible when there is no money to be made from it. In a capitalist society the only drive to do stuff is profit and money. If there isn't money to be made then there is no incentive. That's just my opinion. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 21, 2023 12:19:19 GMT
Who cares what Bryant has to say about anything... You got two likes. He got 3.2k likes. So more people seem to care about what Bryant says about it than your criticism of him. Interesting you yet again don’t grapple with the issue someone raises and instead essentially try to undermine with an insult. Do you think the government should be accountable? In fainess Oggy it's all Knype ever had and all he's got left, sad really. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 21, 2023 12:21:40 GMT
People who care about doing the right thing. What is the right thing? Your opinion? His opinion? It's not "his" opinion, he's clearly stating the principles of a parliamentary democracy. Now you either knew that and decided to ignore it, or you hate the man so much you throw out cheap insults yet again. You've got form for this behaviour. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 12:37:32 GMT
So you can’t define a woman either. Google the areas they vary on policy that I suggest and you will learn some differences between the two parties. Once you have done that, if you still think they are the same then you need help understanding the differences. Lol. How'd you work that one out. I know very well what a woman is tar very much. Need no help from yoos with that one. Do you think your definition would please everyone? Because that’s the standard you are setting for political leaders. Anyway, away from the culture war you seem very focused on, have you now seen the differences between the two parties on the policy areas I identified? |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 21, 2023 12:38:19 GMT
Or not replacing your own personal car at all, thus removing that huge CO2 cost of producing the EV in the first place. Difficult to do, but really the direction we should be trying to head in as a society rather than "everyone get an EV and it'll all be ok". To encourage such a shift amongst other things we'd require a huge increase in public and active transport infra, subsidies for small forms of electrical assistance travel like E-bikes (which make much more sense than electric cars for the short single-occupancy car journies which make up a large proportion of trips), huge expansion in car-club schemes, and probably a per mile taxation of car journies which some argue is going to have to come in to replace VED as internal combustion engines are phased out. All of which is probably beyond the capabilities of the government and would be politically toxic because people* are addicted to car ownership and their perceived right to drive everywhere and however they please**. *I have a car too and would be reluctant to lose it, but logically for the greater good I should be pushed away from getting another one, whatever energy source powers it. **See opposition to ULEZ/CAZ, 20mph limits, resident's parking zones, willingness to sit in city centre traffic jams on a daily basis. Agree with alot of that. Moving away from an ownership model to a rental/per mile/per journey model would help alot but how do you even do such a shift, especially in more rural areas. In my opinion though I see capitalism as the biggest issue with all this electric vehicle stuff. An electric car has to drive 50,000 miles before it matches the carbon footprint of a petrol car due to the emissions involved in the manufacturing process. A car manufacturer makes most of it's money on selling brand new cars, not selling spare parts. There is no incentive there to make a car which will last and there is no incentive from a large proportion of society to make a car last either. Combine that with some of the ridiculous MOT rules which can make it challenging for older cars in a good condition to pass results in a society which is always wanting to change cars and buy new cars rather than fixing them. If you go to places like Greece, Bulgaria and other eastern european countries you will see alot of older car models as they don't have the same strict MOT's. There are taxi drivers driving skodas with 500k+ miles. But why would Ford, Toyota, Volkswagon, Audi etc.. want to make a car which lasts as long as possible when there is no money to be made from it. In a capitalist society the only drive to do stuff is profit and money. If there isn't money to be made then there is no incentive. That's just my opinion. Agree it's difficult in rural areas and I don't know what all the answers are there. But ~85% of UK live in cities, so one begins there I guess. As a sovereign country if we can legislate that we won't be selling ICE vehicles from the year 203X then we can also stipulate certain repairability standards too can't we? Or we incentivise VAG, Ford et al towards car-club models perhaps. If self driving cars become a thing then I could envisage a system when you can order up a car to your house like an Uber taxi and then it drives itself off to some kind of huge underground charging station whenever necessary. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 12:39:52 GMT
Everyone should. Says everything about you that you don't. I'm not surprised in the slightest. Why should we ? The bloke is an absolute clown We know you dislike for Bryant. Set aside that and focus on the words in the tweet and tell me why you think he is so wrong about wanting a government held to account and abiding by the ministerial code. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 13:04:34 GMT
Lol. How'd you work that one out. I know very well what a woman is tar very much. Need no help from yoos with that one. Do you think your definition would please everyone? Because that’s the standard you are setting for political leaders. Anyway, away from the culture war you seem very focused on, have you now seen the differences between the two parties on the policy areas I identified? You can't please everyone. But biology and language is important. And raising kids with fairy tale ideas of biology will only harm society in the long term. Already happening. And no not really. They are not that different. And the more Starmer back tracks on his leadership manifesto the more similar they become. He's also, it would appear, but not proven, into his extra goodies just like this corrupt lot we have in power. Dubious connections to United Health who are looking for big contracts with the NHS. An NHS he claims to love so dearly and wants to keep public. Have a butchers into it. Labour don't represent the working class anymore if you ask me. And the Conservatives never really have. Which leads to what Sunak is now doing with this slowing down of the climate madness. He's baiting Starmer whilst giving the working class something to vote for because it might save them desperately needed money. Will be interesting to see if the back tracker once again back tracks. Can't stand Sunak personally but he might be onto something with this one. Raving looney party for me at the next election, which you'll probably agree is where I should put my allegiance 😆 |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 13:46:34 GMT
Do you think your definition would please everyone? Because that’s the standard you are setting for political leaders. Anyway, away from the culture war you seem very focused on, have you now seen the differences between the two parties on the policy areas I identified? You can't please everyone. But biology and language is important. And raising kids with fairy tale ideas of biology will only harm society in the long term. Already happening. And no not really. They are not that different. And the more Starmer back tracks on his leadership manifesto the more similar they become. He's also, it would appear, but not proven, into his extra goodies just like this corrupt lot we have in power. Dubious connections to United Health who are looking for big contracts with the NHS. An NHS he claims to love so dearly and wants to keep public. Have a butchers into it. Labour don't represent the working class anymore if you ask me. And the Conservatives never really have. Which leads to what Sunak is now doing with this slowing down of the climate madness. He's baiting Starmer whilst giving the working class something to vote for because it might save them desperately needed money. Will be interesting to see if the back tracker once again back tracks. Can't stand Sunak personally but he might be onto something with this one. Raving looney party for me at the next election, which you'll probably agree is where I should put my allegiance 😆 If you haven’t pleased everyone, then someone will be saying you can’t define a woman. It is all nonsense distraction politics. Fair enough. You have thought about politics more than your previous posts suggests. If the working class hasn’t yet worked out that the reason times are so tough is because of the tories then they will never learn the tories are out for the rich and that is it. I agree Labour aren’t the party of the working class, but the tories remain the party of the super rich, and very good at duping others to vote for them by using culture wars. The climate stuff is another red herring. Sunak lied about what his government had pledged (7 different bins!?) and U turned on things that weren’t real. Heat pumps and fossil fuel cars are the only differences, and inevitably the government will be subsidising this if it is ever to happen. Else why is it still legal to make new houses with gas boilers or cars with diesel and petrol engines? |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Sept 21, 2023 13:53:03 GMT
People who care about doing the right thing. What is the right thing? Your opinion? His opinion? Following procedures. I'm sure you would be quite happy if your neighbour did something that negatively impacted you without following process. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2023 13:56:34 GMT
You can't please everyone. But biology and language is important. And raising kids with fairy tale ideas of biology will only harm society in the long term. Already happening. And no not really. They are not that different. And the more Starmer back tracks on his leadership manifesto the more similar they become. He's also, it would appear, but not proven, into his extra goodies just like this corrupt lot we have in power. Dubious connections to United Health who are looking for big contracts with the NHS. An NHS he claims to love so dearly and wants to keep public. Have a butchers into it. Labour don't represent the working class anymore if you ask me. And the Conservatives never really have. Which leads to what Sunak is now doing with this slowing down of the climate madness. He's baiting Starmer whilst giving the working class something to vote for because it might save them desperately needed money. Will be interesting to see if the back tracker once again back tracks. Can't stand Sunak personally but he might be onto something with this one. Raving looney party for me at the next election, which you'll probably agree is where I should put my allegiance 😆 If you haven’t pleased everyone, then someone will be saying you can’t define a woman. It is all nonsense distraction politics. Fair enough. You have thought about politics more than your previous posts suggests. If the working class hasn’t yet worked out that the reason times are so tough is because of the tories then they will never learn the tories are out for the rich and that is it. I agree Labour aren’t the party of the working class, but the tories remain the party of the super rich, and very good at duping others to vote for them by using culture wars. The climate stuff is another red herring. Sunak lied about what his government had pledged (7 different bins!?) and U turned on things that weren’t real. Heat pumps and fossil fuel cars are the only differences, and inevitably the government will be subsidising this if it is ever to happen. Else why is it still legal to make new houses with gas boilers or cars with diesel and petrol engines? The housing stuff will and already is coming through planning law and S106 agreements with developers. Not sure when the heat pumps kicks in but the outside HV Electric points will come into being in 2025. And they all lie all the time. All about votes and saying the right thing at the current time knowing full well they can reverse course when required. But I kind of disagree about the culture wars. The supposed left of society can't keep championing these causes like boys playing in girls sports and all the other crazy things we hear and then claim the supposed right of society is engaging in a culture war when they have an opposing view because they have real concerns that some of these things are harmful for society. Its a bit like slapping someone and then not expecting a fight. Takes two to tango as they say |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 14:04:58 GMT
If you haven’t pleased everyone, then someone will be saying you can’t define a woman. It is all nonsense distraction politics. Fair enough. You have thought about politics more than your previous posts suggests. If the working class hasn’t yet worked out that the reason times are so tough is because of the tories then they will never learn the tories are out for the rich and that is it. I agree Labour aren’t the party of the working class, but the tories remain the party of the super rich, and very good at duping others to vote for them by using culture wars. The climate stuff is another red herring. Sunak lied about what his government had pledged (7 different bins!?) and U turned on things that weren’t real. Heat pumps and fossil fuel cars are the only differences, and inevitably the government will be subsidising this if it is ever to happen. Else why is it still legal to make new houses with gas boilers or cars with diesel and petrol engines? The housing stuff will and already is coming through planning law and S106 agreements with developers. Not sure when the heat pumps kicks in but the outside HV Electric points will come into being in 2025. And they all lie all the time. All about votes and saying the right thing at the current time knowing full well they can reverse course when required. But I kind of disagree about the culture wars. The supposed left of society can't keep championing these causes like boys playing in girls sports and all the other crazy things we hear and then claim the supposed right of society is engaging in a culture war when they have an opposing view because they have real concerns that some of these things are harmful for society. Its a bit like slapping someone and then not expecting a fight. Takes two to tango as they say You see, this is where we differ. I don’t think the left do champion causes like you say they do. I think the right wing media finds someone that is, reports on it (even though it doesn’t impact 99.99% of the population in any way whatsoever), and then questions get asked of Labour politicians about it which are impossible to answer in a way that pleases everyone (like the definition of a woman), and then the right jump on it and get everyone to focus on that rather than the cost of living crisis! |
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