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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 2, 2020 7:44:37 GMT
I’ve never been staunch Conservative or Labour and have voted for both parties at some point in my life. I have to say after yesterday I’ve lost confidence in Johnson. I’ve never been one to be too critical when they’re actually dealing with a very difficult job and like to give people time and not prejudge but I genuinly think he needs to go. Starting a hugely important briefing 2 hours late, waiting till Thursday, closing gyms, unbalanced policing all signs of him losing the plot. We need a stronger leader who’s more decisive and not scared of upsetting people and saying how it is (he said how great everyone’s been). I’m not what the better alternative looks like but Starmers beginning to win me over as at least he seems to have some idea of what he’s talking about. Maybe the chancellor could step up but for me Johnson is becoming a laughing stock. Myself I think as soon as this hit we needed a government of national unity with a strong PM preferably from a medical background or even a none political PM who could run it independently of political party politics easy to achieve if everyone backed the medic quick promotion to the house of lords for an mp and elected in a byelection Good shout that. Or just give all power to the experts. I liken Johnson’s handling of Covid as being similar to Scholes of our transfer activity.
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 2, 2020 15:05:39 GMT
Myself I think as soon as this hit we needed a government of national unity with a strong PM preferably from a medical background or even a none political PM who could run it independently of political party politics easy to achieve if everyone backed the medic quick promotion to the house of lords for an mp and elected in a byelection Good shout that. Or just give all power to the experts. I liken Johnson’s handling of Covid as being similar to Scholes of our transfer activity. Fuck me cobham its not THAT bad !!!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 2, 2020 19:49:18 GMT
Boris is clearly out of his depth and so are those who are close to him in the cabinet. However, I can't back the notion that somehow Starmer is the answer. If there was an election (here) tomorrow I wouldn't vote for either of them. Most, if not all, Boris Bashers have a degree in hindsight. Barmy Starmer has a doctorate. He’s like a wheat blowing in the wind. .....after Lockdown1 he was an advocate of regional lockdown. That hasn’t worked so he’s been harping on about full lockdown for weeks. He needs to go back to what he’s shit at in law and order instead of making a complete arsehole of himself as an opposition leader in times of national crisis.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Nov 2, 2020 20:04:47 GMT
Boris is clearly out of his depth and so are those who are close to him in the cabinet. However, I can't back the notion that somehow Starmer is the answer. If there was an election (here) tomorrow I wouldn't vote for either of them. Most, if not all, Boris Bashers have a degree in hindsight. Barmy Starmer has a doctorate. He’s like a wheat blowing in the wind. .....after Lockdown1 he was an advocate of regional lockdown. That hasn’t worked so he’s been harping on about full lockdown for weeks. He needs to go back to what he’s shit at in law and order instead of making a complete arsehole of himself as an opposition leader in times of national crisis. Like GeneralFaye I'm not sure Starmer is the answer, but as regards the second lockdown it can hardly be called hindsight if someone calls for a course of action three weeks in advance of it being adopted by Government.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 3, 2020 0:56:43 GMT
Myself I think as soon as this hit we needed a government of national unity with a strong PM preferably from a medical background or even a none political PM who could run it independently of political party politics easy to achieve if everyone backed the medic quick promotion to the house of lords for an mp and elected in a byelection Good shout that. Or just give all power to the experts. I liken Johnson’s handling of Covid as being similar to Scholes of our transfer activity. no Johnson makes Scholes look like einstein hes that bad 😁
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 3, 2020 15:46:01 GMT
Anyone see GMB this morning had a group chat even the Tory supporters were having a go at him . Saying wrong man,he was a inept had no clue and useless 😁😁
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 4, 2020 11:15:48 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 7, 2020 23:14:39 GMT
Corruption, absolute corruption
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2020 15:20:18 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2020 21:15:00 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 9, 2020 22:33:36 GMT
Has Johnson ever been asked about the accusation from Natalie Rowe? I've never seen or heard of it before this post.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2020 22:40:42 GMT
Has Johnson ever been asked about the accusation from Natalie Rowe? I've never seen or heard of it before this post. Don't think so no.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 10, 2020 14:13:09 GMT
Corruption, absolute corruption Of course the good family Cummings and associates are in line at that particular trough www.ft.com/content/6159d5b7-171c-49ed-b318-144efcc4ca2a?sharetype=blockedVile, despicable charlatans who don't even bother to hide their corruption. Getting rich on a pandemic that is killing the red wall that gifted them the keys to the castle. Quite ironic really.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 10, 2020 14:49:04 GMT
Has Johnson ever been asked about the accusation from Natalie Rowe? I've never seen or heard of it before this post. And who is Natalie Rowe?
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Post by Widget123 on Nov 10, 2020 16:25:43 GMT
Boris is clearly out of his depth and so are those who are close to him in the cabinet. However, I can't back the notion that somehow Starmer is the answer. If there was an election (here) tomorrow I wouldn't vote for either of them. The current cabinet would be out of their depth in a paddling pool. They are the most incompetent bunch assembled possibly in the history of this country. The have a single shared trait and that is loyalty to Boris or at the very least are quite prepared to let their own sketchy reputations be tarnished by handcuffing themselves to his policies at any cost at all. This cabinet have so far given billions of pounds of government money to unqualified friends and political donors, elevated unqualified people to high public offices who have made a complete hash of multiple projects in a pandemic and spent billions of pounds on procurement which has been the most farcical attempt at purchasing PPE globally. There's Patel who's 'devil may care' approach to running the home office appears to consist of insulting everyone she meets and deciding policy modelled on Dr Evil style world domination plans. Gove and Johnson who both appear to be incapable of doing anything without lying about the subject in some way or contradicting themselves. Hancock is basically a stuffed puppet with eye wateringly poor comms skills and an inability to do anything other than slide from crisis to crisis, in the middle of a pandemic. Jenrick managed to "save" a donor £40M in tax by over riding his own planning officer, then trumped that by doing a deal with a cabinet colleague to exchange permission slips funnelling £25M of the "Towns Fund" into their own constituencies, neither of which met the "most deprived areas" criteria. Truss who like a female Trump likes to mouth off online about things she really isn't an expert about and is mired in the Ayanda Capital face masks debacle. Williamson is a man so over promoted to education secretary that his lack of knowledge in the subject means that most journalists end up referring to him as "that MP who keeps rats for pets" as its more credible than his record in the job. Shapps spent £87M on a contract with a ferry company that had no boats. Although there are many more the final word has to be about Braverman - who despite being in the office of Attorney General, which requires impartiality and balance, has stated things on social media which are fundamentally beyond the remit of her role and could be construed to be in breach of her impartiality. Multiple QCs have registered their horror at her approach to the role and the bar council are apparently very displeased with her attempts to break international law. (and I've not included Dido Harding in that who though utterly unqualified was given the £12bn track and trace top job, made a complete mess of it to the point where we still don't really have a working track and trace system after six bloody months, is now being promoted to run NHS Improvement a job she's even less qualified for. Of course you could call this nepotism by the cabinet and refer the case to the governments anti-corruption champion - who just so happens to be her husband John Penrose! Its a complete stitch up.) I would literally vote for Count Binface over this pile of steaming excrement given a chance.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 10, 2020 16:36:15 GMT
But apart from that, you like them, right?
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Post by Widget123 on Nov 10, 2020 16:50:03 GMT
But apart from that, you like them, right? hahaha, touché I'm not normally this frustrated about politics, there isn't really a party which 100% represents me so I'm used to being a seesaw on general policy based on whoever is in charge. But for the first time ever I'm genuinely at a complete loss to see anything redeeming in the current bunch. They're stubborn to the point of self harm (both personally, nationally and internationally) and seem to score endless own goals when directing or creating policy. They don't take a measured approach to anything at all which gives them a bull in a china shop look and the evidence is mounting that they appear to be morally corrupt and rotten right to the core with the various collusion's which have apparently taken place.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 11, 2020 0:19:10 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 11, 2020 0:20:47 GMT
Has Johnson ever been asked about the accusation from Natalie Rowe? I've never seen or heard of it before this post. And who is Natalie Rowe? She's the ex call girl who used to entertain Gideon Osborne.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 11, 2020 9:01:07 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 11, 2020 9:19:52 GMT
Well there’s a shock government spends money where it’s likely to increase its votes In all the years of the last labour government all I can think of that impacts on the locals in Norfolk was the bloody hospital that sits in the middle of nowhere with insufficient parking That of course they have to wank millions on in ppi payments for the privilege I wonder why they ignored norfolk could it be they voted Tory
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 11, 2020 9:29:51 GMT
Well there’s a shock government spends money where it’s likely to increase its votes In all the years of the last labour government all I can think of that impacts on the locals in Norfolk was the bloody hospital that sits in the middle of nowhere with insufficient parking That of course they have to wank millions on in ppi payments for the privilege I wonder why they ignored norfolk could it be they voted Tory No excuse though. The government should be transparent in their decisions. It’s good there are committees in Parliament that hold ministers to account.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 11, 2020 9:34:03 GMT
Well there’s a shock government spends money where it’s likely to increase its votes In all the years of the last labour government all I can think of that impacts on the locals in Norfolk was the bloody hospital that sits in the middle of nowhere with insufficient parking That of course they have to wank millions on in ppi payments for the privilege I wonder why they ignored norfolk could it be they voted Tory Simple. Release the justification of why the 270th and 576th most deprived areas in the country received funds and some in the top 50 most deprived areas didn't. The Public Accounts Committee has requested it. What was the justification, what are they hiding?
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Post by elystokie on Nov 11, 2020 9:35:46 GMT
Well there’s a shock government spends money where it’s likely to increase its votes In all the years of the last labour government all I can think of that impacts on the locals in Norfolk was the bloody hospital that sits in the middle of nowhere with insufficient parking That of course they have to wank millions on in ppi payments for the privilege I wonder why they ignored norfolk could it be they voted Tory You appear to be complaining about someone complaining about the thing you've already complained about in the past but from a different standpoint.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 11, 2020 9:53:23 GMT
Well there’s a shock government spends money where it’s likely to increase its votes In all the years of the last labour government all I can think of that impacts on the locals in Norfolk was the bloody hospital that sits in the middle of nowhere with insufficient parking That of course they have to wank millions on in ppi payments for the privilege I wonder why they ignored norfolk could it be they voted Tory You appear to be complaining about someone complaining about the thing you've already complained about in the past but from a different standpoint. Correct they all do it labour Tory-lib Tory its politics
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 11, 2020 10:04:02 GMT
You appear to be complaining about someone complaining about the thing you've already complained about in the past but from a different standpoint. Correct they all do it labour Tory-lib Tory its politics To their top target seats just before an election and then suppress a report into it? Righto.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 11, 2020 10:08:06 GMT
Boris is clearly out of his depth and so are those who are close to him in the cabinet. However, I can't back the notion that somehow Starmer is the answer. If there was an election (here) tomorrow I wouldn't vote for either of them. The current cabinet would be out of their depth in a paddling pool. They are the most incompetent bunch assembled possibly in the history of this country. The have a single shared trait and that is loyalty to Boris or at the very least are quite prepared to let their own sketchy reputations be tarnished by handcuffing themselves to his policies at any cost at all. This cabinet have so far given billions of pounds of government money to unqualified friends and political donors, elevated unqualified people to high public offices who have made a complete hash of multiple projects in a pandemic and spent billions of pounds on procurement which has been the most farcical attempt at purchasing PPE globally. There's Patel who's 'devil may care' approach to running the home office appears to consist of insulting everyone she meets and deciding policy modelled on Dr Evil style world domination plans. Gove and Johnson who both appear to be incapable of doing anything without lying about the subject in some way or contradicting themselves. Hancock is basically a stuffed puppet with eye wateringly poor comms skills and an inability to do anything other than slide from crisis to crisis, in the middle of a pandemic. Jenrick managed to "save" a donor £40M in tax by over riding his own planning officer, then trumped that by doing a deal with a cabinet colleague to exchange permission slips funnelling £25M of the "Towns Fund" into their own constituencies, neither of which met the "most deprived areas" criteria. Truss who like a female Trump likes to mouth off online about things she really isn't an expert about and is mired in the Ayanda Capital face masks debacle. Williamson is a man so over promoted to education secretary that his lack of knowledge in the subject means that most journalists end up referring to him as "that MP who keeps rats for pets" as its more credible than his record in the job. Shapps spent £87M on a contract with a ferry company that had no boats. Although there are many more the final word has to be about Braverman - who despite being in the office of Attorney General, which requires impartiality and balance, has stated things on social media which are fundamentally beyond the remit of her role and could be construed to be in breach of her impartiality. Multiple QCs have registered their horror at her approach to the role and the bar council are apparently very displeased with her attempts to break international law. (and I've not included Dido Harding in that who though utterly unqualified was given the £12bn track and trace top job, made a complete mess of it to the point where we still don't really have a working track and trace system after six bloody months, is now being promoted to run NHS Improvement a job she's even less qualified for. Of course you could call this nepotism by the cabinet and refer the case to the governments anti-corruption champion - who just so happens to be her husband John Penrose! Its a complete stitch up.) I would literally vote for Count Binface over this pile of steaming excrement given a chance. Buckethead's is still the best reaction to a vote count
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2020 16:00:51 GMT
Let's hope the replacement dictator keeps buying weapons off us to oppress his own people.....
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 11, 2020 16:31:44 GMT
The current cabinet would be out of their depth in a paddling pool. They are the most incompetent bunch assembled possibly in the history of this country. The have a single shared trait and that is loyalty to Boris or at the very least are quite prepared to let their own sketchy reputations be tarnished by handcuffing themselves to his policies at any cost at all. This cabinet have so far given billions of pounds of government money to unqualified friends and political donors, elevated unqualified people to high public offices who have made a complete hash of multiple projects in a pandemic and spent billions of pounds on procurement which has been the most farcical attempt at purchasing PPE globally. There's Patel who's 'devil may care' approach to running the home office appears to consist of insulting everyone she meets and deciding policy modelled on Dr Evil style world domination plans. Gove and Johnson who both appear to be incapable of doing anything without lying about the subject in some way or contradicting themselves. Hancock is basically a stuffed puppet with eye wateringly poor comms skills and an inability to do anything other than slide from crisis to crisis, in the middle of a pandemic. Jenrick managed to "save" a donor £40M in tax by over riding his own planning officer, then trumped that by doing a deal with a cabinet colleague to exchange permission slips funnelling £25M of the "Towns Fund" into their own constituencies, neither of which met the "most deprived areas" criteria. Truss who like a female Trump likes to mouth off online about things she really isn't an expert about and is mired in the Ayanda Capital face masks debacle. Williamson is a man so over promoted to education secretary that his lack of knowledge in the subject means that most journalists end up referring to him as "that MP who keeps rats for pets" as its more credible than his record in the job. Shapps spent £87M on a contract with a ferry company that had no boats. Although there are many more the final word has to be about Braverman - who despite being in the office of Attorney General, which requires impartiality and balance, has stated things on social media which are fundamentally beyond the remit of her role and could be construed to be in breach of her impartiality. Multiple QCs have registered their horror at her approach to the role and the bar council are apparently very displeased with her attempts to break international law. (and I've not included Dido Harding in that who though utterly unqualified was given the £12bn track and trace top job, made a complete mess of it to the point where we still don't really have a working track and trace system after six bloody months, is now being promoted to run NHS Improvement a job she's even less qualified for. Of course you could call this nepotism by the cabinet and refer the case to the governments anti-corruption champion - who just so happens to be her husband John Penrose! Its a complete stitch up.) I would literally vote for Count Binface over this pile of steaming excrement given a chance. Buckethead's is still the best reaction to a vote count There is something wonderful about these elections whereby the PM has to share a stage on election night with folk like Mr Buckethead. It’s like Monty Python designed the electoral system.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 11, 2020 19:28:32 GMT
PMQs today How come Help for Heroes got just £6m from the Treasury when the government had handed out £670k in PR contracts to the vaccine taskforce and £130m to other PR companies over the past year? Boris blustered and feigned surprise that anyone should question his government’s integrity. link
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