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Post by Northy on May 6, 2020 10:39:39 GMT
It was a story from January, which was posted on here at the time, and pointed out that the new formula was set up under Theresa May's time, which I suppose was available for reading during the election campaign, so it could have been picked up and run with it back then by the dumb fuckers ... in opposition Put forward by May (tory) implemented by Johnson (tory) with the full backing of the people who voted (tory) at the general election ,the people of Stoke-On -Trent (tory) and you think the Labour voters who voted against it are the dumb ones. Cuckoo land. Quite wrong actually, it was proposed in 2017 under May's time, first time in 10 years it had had a review, with a review period for the original consultation December 2017 to March 2018 which was to be worked on and authorised in 2019 and then implemented in 2020, however as of last week it has now been put on hold until 2021, so the 4 month old link that was posted is not valid at present as they are looking to review the 75% retained business rates and the affect the extra money given to local councils for Covid19 and the towns and cities grants will affect them.
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Post by Eggybread on May 6, 2020 10:44:55 GMT
Put forward by May (tory) implemented by Johnson (tory) with the full backing of the people who voted (tory) at the general election ,the people of Stoke-On -Trent (tory) and you think the Labour voters who voted against it are the dumb ones. Cuckoo land. Quite wrong actually, it was proposed in 2017 under May's time, first time in 10 years it had had a review, with a review period for the original consultation December 2017 to March 2018 which was to be worked on and authorised in 2019 and then implemented in 2020, however as of last week it has now been put on hold until 2021, so the 4 month old link that was posted is not valid at present as they are looking to review the 75% retained business rates and the affect the extra money given to local councils for Covid19 and the towns and cities grants will affect them. So it was and still is government policy to implement this idea when the time is right to do so.I bet they are champing at the bit to push it through and people are falling over themselves to vote for it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 6, 2020 11:29:49 GMT
Johnson once again in PMQ's denies that austerity ever existed, describing it as, the 'A' word whilst smirking.
The vile, obnoxious, cunt.
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Post by bathstoke on May 6, 2020 12:30:21 GMT
Tory voters, you’ve let your country down, it’s people down, but most of all... When will folk learn...
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Post by thevoid on May 6, 2020 13:24:06 GMT
Tory voters, you’ve let your country down, it’s people down, but most of all... When will folk learn... Because people saw them as a better option than the opposition at the time. This may now change. Rather than making pointless, attention seeking comments such as the one I'm quoting, try doing some navel gazing and ponder why. Not a single utterance you've made has come anywhere close to changing where my vote goes. It's easy to snipe on the sidelines though.
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Post by bathstoke on May 6, 2020 13:28:03 GMT
Tory voters, you’ve let your country down, it’s people down, but most of all... When will folk learn... Because people saw them as a better option than the opposition at the time. This may now change. Rather than making pointless, attention seeking comments such as the one I'm quoting, try doing some navel gazing and ponder why. Not a single utterance you've made has come anywhere close to changing where my vote goes. It's easy to snipe on the sidelines though. Further, Further, Further to the right... They have no one to blame but their swivelleyed looney selves.
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Post by thevoid on May 6, 2020 13:37:48 GMT
Because people saw them as a better option than the opposition at the time. This may now change. Rather than making pointless, attention seeking comments such as the one I'm quoting, try doing some navel gazing and ponder why. Not a single utterance you've made has come anywhere close to changing where my vote goes. It's easy to snipe on the sidelines though. Further, Further, Further to the right... They have no one to blame but their swivelleyed looney selves. Who? You're rambling, fella. Swap right for left in your last comment and you have the answer for the election result.
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Post by bathstoke on May 6, 2020 13:49:48 GMT
Further, Further, Further to the right... They have no one to blame but their swivelleyed looney selves. Who? You're rambling, fella. Swap right for left in your last comment and you have the answer for the election result. No, We know that the Left were vilified whilst the Right were left to get on with a hateful ideology of £@#& the weak. If you cannot see with your own eyes what an arrogant, cynical $#!tshow that Boris & chums are performing, how could I ever convince you otherwise...
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Post by longdistancekiddie on May 6, 2020 13:51:43 GMT
And Incompetent
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Post by thevoid on May 6, 2020 13:53:07 GMT
Who? You're rambling, fella. Swap right for left in your last comment and you have the answer for the election result. No, We know that the Left were vilified whilst the Right were left to get on with a hateful ideology of £@#& the weak. If you cannot see with your own eyes what an arrogant, cynical $#!tshow that Boris & chums are performing, how could I ever convince you otherwise... I don't need you to convince me fella. I'll leave you to it anyway, I'm off for a jog.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 6, 2020 21:47:14 GMT
Tories got voted in 10 years ago today.
What a complete and utter mess the last 10 years have been for this country.
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Post by bathstoke on May 7, 2020 4:54:54 GMT
Did you see that Rishi Sunak on TV lastnight? Well the shine has come of him like the thin veneer of paint on the goldie looking chain you might buy off the “Lookey Lookey Man” in Benidorm. What a £@#&!n sad automatron he has turned out to be. Almost makes Spreadsheets Phil look interesting. Way out of his depth, but I suppose they’re all in good company. Can the last one to leave the toilet not forget to flush🚽
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Post by Eggybread on May 7, 2020 12:09:33 GMT
Its and absolute disgrace that Johnson is doing his announcement at 7PM on Sunday,for the sole purpose of hiding away from scrutiny.This is not a democratic way to run the country and it is a tactic what this government use time and time again. Breiteers voted to have a say about issues and for the government to be accountable for their actions.Well the charlatans who are in power dont seem to be following the rules.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 7, 2020 12:33:19 GMT
Its and absolute disgrace that Johnson is doing his announcement at 7PM on Sunday,for the sole purpose of hiding away from scrutiny.This is not a democratic way to run the country and it is a tactic what this government use time and time again. Breiteers voted to have a say about issues and for the government to be accountable for their actions.Well the charlatans who are in power dont seem to be following the rules. I’d rather think that he is delaying an announcement until Sunday in order to avoid a rush into the outdoors by everyone celebrating VE Day. Where is your evidence that he is doing it "for the sole purpose of avoiding scrutiny"........I’m sure whatever he’s says will be scrutinised, twisted and turned by the usual naysayers on here and with labour oxygen thieves. I said right at the beginning of this pandemic that hindsight will present many political opportunities for all parties. I’m being proved right.
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Post by thisisouryear on May 7, 2020 13:04:49 GMT
Its and absolute disgrace that Johnson is doing his announcement at 7PM on Sunday,for the sole purpose of hiding away from scrutiny.This is not a democratic way to run the country and it is a tactic what this government use time and time again. Breiteers voted to have a say about issues and for the government to be accountable for their actions.Well the charlatans who are in power dont seem to be following the rules. I’d rather think that he is delaying an announcement until Sunday in order to avoid a rush into the outdoors by everyone celebrating VE Day. Where is your evidence that he is doing it "for the sole purpose of avoiding scrutiny"........I’m sure whatever he’s says will be scrutinised, twisted and turned by the usual naysayers on here and with labour oxygen thieves. I said right at the beginning of this pandemic that hindsight will present many political opportunities for all parties. I’m being proved right. Labour oxygen thieves? Typical right wing bullshit because you can't accept people who have different views than you. You are bound to be proved right because of your obvious bias.
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Post by Eggybread on May 7, 2020 13:13:53 GMT
Its and absolute disgrace that Johnson is doing his announcement at 7PM on Sunday,for the sole purpose of hiding away from scrutiny.This is not a democratic way to run the country and it is a tactic what this government use time and time again. Breiteers voted to have a say about issues and for the government to be accountable for their actions.Well the charlatans who are in power dont seem to be following the rules. I’d rather think that he is delaying an announcement until Sunday in order to avoid a rush into the outdoors by everyone celebrating VE Day. Where is your evidence that he is doing it "for the sole purpose of avoiding scrutiny"........I’m sure whatever he’s says will be scrutinised, twisted and turned by the usual naysayers on here and with labour oxygen thieves. I said right at the beginning of this pandemic that hindsight will present many political opportunities for all parties. I’m being proved right. The deadline is today.The Scottish have already said and Im sure the Welsh and Irish will follow that there will be no change.They have the same report as Johnson. Starmer has already questioned it, as it is going against the rules of the house (which dont seem to apply to this government). The house speaker said Speaker Lindsay Hoyle had previously said it was a "matter of regret" plans would not be announced in Parliament and hope it would never happen again. They do everything at a time when no body can react ,this has been a tactic of Cummings since day one.If you cannot see that then he is doing a very good job isnt he.
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Post by thevoid on May 7, 2020 14:12:23 GMT
I’d rather think that he is delaying an announcement until Sunday in order to avoid a rush into the outdoors by everyone celebrating VE Day. Where is your evidence that he is doing it "for the sole purpose of avoiding scrutiny"........I’m sure whatever he’s says will be scrutinised, twisted and turned by the usual naysayers on here and with labour oxygen thieves. I said right at the beginning of this pandemic that hindsight will present many political opportunities for all parties. I’m being proved right. Labour oxygen thieves? Typical right wing bullshit because you can't accept people who have different views than you. You are bound to be proved right because of your obvious bias. Whereas the hard left are a bastion of tolerance......
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Post by thisisouryear on May 7, 2020 14:44:18 GMT
Labour oxygen thieves? Typical right wing bullshit because you can't accept people who have different views than you. You are bound to be proved right because of your obvious bias. Whereas the hard left are a bastion of tolerance...... The hard left are as nuts as the hard right. I don't like people who preach their beliefs on people from either side. Just because someone is right or left wing doesn't mean they are oxygen thieves does it? Your pissing in the wind if you think you can get them to change their beliefs but they are entitled to their opinion. Tolerance works both ways and Labour are not hard left. There are arseholes left and right wing, why does everyone think they need to choose a side? I either agree with someone or I don't, I don't care if they consider themselves left or right wing. I'm not your enemy just because I have a different opinion and your not mine.
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Post by Davef on May 7, 2020 16:06:20 GMT
Fun fact of the day.
Had David Cameron not resigned and finished his whole term, there would have been a General Election today. 😊
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Post by thevoid on May 7, 2020 17:39:24 GMT
Whereas the hard left are a bastion of tolerance...... The hard left are as nuts as the hard right. I don't like people who preach their beliefs on people from either side. Just because someone is right or left wing doesn't mean they are oxygen thieves does it? Your pissing in the wind if you think you can get them to change their beliefs but they are entitled to their opinion. Tolerance works both ways and Labour are not hard left. There are arseholes left and right wing, why does everyone think they need to choose a side? I either agree with someone or I don't, I don't care if they consider themselves left or right wing. I'm not your enemy just because I have a different opinion and your not mine. I couldn't agree more. There are fanatics on both sides of the coin. Personally, I think social media has a lot to blame. Hopefully Starmer can pull Labour away from the glorified protest group status it was hurtling towards though. Corbyn's Labour was not a credible opposition, the election proved that.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 7, 2020 21:31:18 GMT
Fun fact of the day. Had David Cameron not resigned and finished his whole term, there would have been a General Election today. 😊 Bloody hell. Feels like a lifetime ago he won that majority.
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Post by bathstoke on May 8, 2020 9:00:03 GMT
This 75th anniversary will be a welcome distraction for our illustrious leader.
Haven’t even the infrastructure to source the appropriate protective gowns for medics, nevermind doing a deal with the World post Brexit.
Flag waving anyone...🇬🇧
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Post by Eggybread on May 8, 2020 16:10:18 GMT
I see Johnson is hiding from scrutiny again,is this the accountable government the Brexiteer supporting people worked so hard to bring upon us all?
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Post by bathstoke on May 9, 2020 6:25:02 GMT
The science seems to have changed again. So we didn’t lockdown the airports or do quarantine, but now we are, but not till the end of the month. Now, who’s fault is that, the Civil Servants & the experts or this utter shambles of a government...
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Post by bathstoke on May 11, 2020 17:25:30 GMT
Keir just served Bonzo’s own @&$e to him on a plate. Most convincing speech in a sea of $#!ty government speeches over all these weeks. @&$e on a plate...
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2020 0:13:14 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 14, 2020 9:50:25 GMT
Thats going to lose so many of those ex red wall seats isn't it or do you think not a single fuck will be given in places like Stoke over this except for you of course. Just a reminder the Labour party campaigned the last election on the basis that the NHS was going to collapse and that it was going to be sold too Trump, nevermind the denials over anti semitism they now admit weren't true, which of these do you think will cut through at the next election most ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2020 9:56:26 GMT
Thats going to lose so many of those ex red wall seats isn't it or do you think not a single fuck will be given in places like Stoke over this except for you of course. Just a reminder the Labour party campaigned the last election on the basis that the NHS was going to collapse and that it was going to be sold too Trump, nevermind the denials over anti semitism they now admit weren't true, which of these do you think will cut through at the next election most ? Interesting that even you cannot argue against the fact that he is a lying bastard. The man doesn't even have a passing acquaintance with the truth anymore and it's telling that you don't even try and defend him on it.
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Post by followyoudown on May 14, 2020 10:22:53 GMT
Thats going to lose so many of those ex red wall seats isn't it or do you think not a single fuck will be given in places like Stoke over this except for you of course. Just a reminder the Labour party campaigned the last election on the basis that the NHS was going to collapse and that it was going to be sold too Trump, nevermind the denials over anti semitism they now admit weren't true, which of these do you think will cut through at the next election most ? Interesting that even you cannot argue against the fact that he is a lying bastard. The man doesn't even have a passing acquaintance with the truth anymore and it's telling that you don't even try and defend him on it. I could but decided it wasnt worth it, its called a contingency plan, transition period ends december entirely feasible as part of the fta they could come to an agreement that means no checks if they want to its a question of what that is traded off with. Now the NHS being sold to Trump that is and was just a barefaced lie, like the there is no anti semitism lie, the nhs is going to collapse lie, telling you completely ignored that.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2020 10:36:36 GMT
Interesting that even you cannot argue against the fact that he is a lying bastard. The man doesn't even have a passing acquaintance with the truth anymore and it's telling that you don't even try and defend him on it. I could but decided it wasnt worth it, its called a contingency plan, transition period ends december entirely feasible as part of the fta they could come to an agreement that means no checks if they want to its a question of what that is traded off with. Now the NHS being sold to Trump that is and was just a barefaced lie, like the there is no anti semitism lie, the nhs is going to collapse lie, telling you completely ignored that. COntingency my arse. It's called being a lying bastard.
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