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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 26, 2020 10:42:56 GMT
It's pretty easy to read the script Austerity remains attacking the worst off in society Some tax rises that avoid the super rich and corporations A couple of vanity projects for the North which some soft twats will fall for as genuine investment The right have been rather quiet on this thread for a few weeks now. Concentrating their efforts on Corbyn and Labour who are not in power but are still the butt of jokes.The biggest joke is that many a simpleton believed what the tories said in the election. It looks a bleak future for the countries most vulnerable, for the foreseeable future. The most vocal right wingers on here simply don't care about 93 year olds being left on trolleys for hours. That's a price worth paying for a heartless and vicious capitalist economy to them. They simply don't care about Johnson's continual lying even on Brexit which is something they pretend to care about for reasons other than 'them pesky frogs and krauts' and they simply don't care that austerity continues to rip into the City most of them inhabit because, well, they don't care about anyone or anything other than themselves.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 26, 2020 11:09:14 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 27, 2020 12:24:44 GMT
Just so that I'm fairly clear, is the point of posting on this thread now to show how hypocritical the government is or how uncaring the government is or something else? When it was started we had a May government and it was easy to show that it was shambles....what is the actual alternative at the moment? Is the hope that the government is brought down?...to be replaced by?
This from the OP doesn't really apply at the moment
"This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers"
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2020 10:27:18 GMT
Interesting question from Twitter......
Dear zero-sum dorks,
Lots of billionaires lost 10% of their money this week.
Do you feel richer??
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 28, 2020 10:49:13 GMT
Interesting question from Twitter...... Dear zero-sum dorks, Lots of billionaires lost 10% of their money this week. Do you feel richer?? Interesting question from me...... According to the OECD, "There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest (in the UK) – the top 20% of the population earn six times as much as the bottom 20%." The concept of "trickle down economics" would have us believe this makes no difference as all that money at the top will find its way to the poorest people anyway. So why doesn't it?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 28, 2020 10:53:15 GMT
Just so that I'm fairly clear, is the point of posting on this thread now to show how hypocritical the government is or how uncaring the government is or something else? When it was started we had a May government and it was easy to show that it was shambles....what is the actual alternative at the moment? Is the hope that the government is brought down?...to be replaced by? This from the OP doesn't really apply at the moment "This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers" What's the point of the Corbyn thread do you think BJR?
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 28, 2020 10:54:26 GMT
This is not democracy, it’s something else...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2020 11:09:39 GMT
Interesting question from Twitter...... Dear zero-sum dorks, Lots of billionaires lost 10% of their money this week. Do you feel richer?? Interesting question from me...... According to the OECD, "There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest (in the UK) – the top 20% of the population earn six times as much as the bottom 20%." The concept of "trickle down economics" would have us believe this makes no difference as all that money at the top will find its way to the poorest people anyway. So why doesn't it? Because there's no such thing as "trickle down economics"
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2020 11:10:58 GMT
Just so that I'm fairly clear, is the point of posting on this thread now to show how hypocritical the government is or how uncaring the government is or something else? When it was started we had a May government and it was easy to show that it was shambles....what is the actual alternative at the moment? Is the hope that the government is brought down?...to be replaced by? This from the OP doesn't really apply at the moment "This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers" What's the point of the Corbyn thread do you think BJR? Because he's still the Labour leader.
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 28, 2020 11:15:55 GMT
Interesting question from me...... According to the OECD, "There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest (in the UK) – the top 20% of the population earn six times as much as the bottom 20%." The concept of "trickle down economics" would have us believe this makes no difference as all that money at the top will find its way to the poorest people anyway. So why doesn't it? Because there's no such thing as "trickle down economics" That blog is contradictory nonsense mate. It says no one uses trickle down other than as a means to criticise, then outlines some of the rationale of neoliberal thinking. 'Trickle down doesn't exist, but hey look the proles do better out of it too!' But when you look at it, that isn't really true either, is it.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2020 11:27:56 GMT
That blog is contradictory nonsense mate. It says no one uses trickle down other than as a means to criticise, then outlines some of the rationale of neoliberal thinking. 'Trickle down doesn't exist, but hey look the proles do better out of it too!' But when you look at it, that isn't really true either, is it. I forgot you're hard of thinking. In praise of trickle-up economics
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 28, 2020 11:33:45 GMT
Just so that I'm fairly clear, is the point of posting on this thread now to show how hypocritical the government is or how uncaring the government is or something else? When it was started we had a May government and it was easy to show that it was shambles....what is the actual alternative at the moment? Is the hope that the government is brought down?...to be replaced by? This from the OP doesn't really apply at the moment "This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers" What's the point of the Corbyn thread do you think BJR? I don't know, he's on his way out isn't he, yesterday's man.....At least the thread title refers to Corbyn....I just think that this thread refered to a completely different government......it may still be Tory but both Blair and Corbyn are Labour. Perhaps there are other words to describe this government, but I don't think it is shambles compared to what we've had for 4 years. Perhaps I'm being pedantic.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 28, 2020 11:34:03 GMT
Interesting question from me...... According to the OECD, "There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest (in the UK) – the top 20% of the population earn six times as much as the bottom 20%." The concept of "trickle down economics" would have us believe this makes no difference as all that money at the top will find its way to the poorest people anyway. So why doesn't it? Because there's no such thing as "trickle down economics" Yet your "interesting question from Twitter" is couched from the position that there is. Namely, that it benefits the rest of us in some way to have billionaires holding all that capital. Or at the very least, that it doesn't affect the rest of us at all when that capital is shifted around. Both of which are erroneous, I would argue
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 28, 2020 11:46:02 GMT
Interesting question from me...... According to the OECD, "There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest (in the UK) – the top 20% of the population earn six times as much as the bottom 20%." The concept of "trickle down economics" would have us believe this makes no difference as all that money at the top will find its way to the poorest people anyway. So why doesn't it? Because there's no such thing as "trickle down economics" It’s make’e’mind up time!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2020 11:46:03 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2020 11:51:06 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 28, 2020 11:53:32 GMT
What's the point of the Corbyn thread do you think BJR? I don't know, he's on his way out isn't he, yesterday's man.....At least the thread title refers to Corbyn....I just think that this thread refered to a completely different government......it may still be Tory but both Blair and Corbyn are Labour. Perhaps there are other words to describe this government, but I don't think it is shambles compared to what we've had for 4 years. Perhaps I'm being pedantic. Re. The BBC posts above Jon. This Government is an utter fucking shambles and no mistake! And the ghost of the old Government in the form of the most incompetent Minister of all time Chris Grayling continue to haunt it.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 28, 2020 12:02:28 GMT
That’s old regurgitated barf of even older notions. Keep up Roger
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 28, 2020 12:13:04 GMT
What's the point of the Corbyn thread do you think BJR? I don't know, he's on his way out isn't he, yesterday's man.....At least the thread title refers to Corbyn....I just think that this thread refered to a completely different government......it may still be Tory but both Blair and Corbyn are Labour. Perhaps there are other words to describe this government, but I don't think it is shambles compared to what we've had for 4 years. Perhaps I'm being pedantic. I'm in favour of changing the thread title though. As this is the most hard right, scrutiny hating, democracy bashing, poor hating Government in history, chock full of swivel eyed ideologues, I think it should be changed to 'This Government is Dangerous'.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 28, 2020 12:15:10 GMT
I don't know, he's on his way out isn't he, yesterday's man.....At least the thread title refers to Corbyn....I just think that this thread refered to a completely different government......it may still be Tory but both Blair and Corbyn are Labour. Perhaps there are other words to describe this government, but I don't think it is shambles compared to what we've had for 4 years. Perhaps I'm being pedantic. I'm in favour of changing the thread title though. As this is the most hard right, scrutiny hating, democracy bashing, poor hating Government in history, chock full of swivel eyed ideologues, I think it should be changed to 'This Government is Dangerous'. I don't think it is Momo, I don't think it is. Besides I don't think that there is any indication that the electorate would trust any alternative.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 28, 2020 12:19:52 GMT
That’s old regurgitated barf of even older notions. Keep up Roger Seems old todger has graduated to the IEA for his thinking now. A right wing neoliberal think-tank, which I think I'm correct in saying had close ties to Keith Joseph, Enoch Powell and the more serious monetarist headbangers of the 70's/80's So it's certainly a step up from his usual "random right wingers on Twitter" source, but still very much in the broader category of "partisan claptrap being passed off as news" that I referenced earlier
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 28, 2020 12:20:00 GMT
I'm in favour of changing the thread title though. As this is the most hard right, scrutiny hating, democracy bashing, poor hating Government in history, chock full of swivel eyed ideologues, I think it should be changed to 'This Government is Dangerous'. I don't think it is Momo, I don't think it is. Besides I don't think that there is any indication that the electorate would trust any alternative. They're making it harder for people to vote, they changing the constitution and suppressing the judiciary, they wont legislate for basic rights that we lose from Brexit and austerity continues to torture people at a fast pace and they're intending to have another go at unions and workers rights. Believe me the people of this country are in grave danger and that bumbling fop haired ponce at the helm is only the idiot salesman for the real bastards.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 28, 2020 12:49:57 GMT
I'm in favour of changing the thread title though. As this is the most hard right, scrutiny hating, democracy bashing, poor hating Government in history, chock full of swivel eyed ideologues, I think it should be changed to 'This Government is Dangerous'. I don't think it is Momo, I don't think it is. Besides I don't think that there is any indication that the electorate would trust any alternative. I agree with you that we need a new thread about the new Government. This thread was clearly about TM's shambolic crew. The current government may turn out to be a shambles. But it doesn't merit being called that... yet.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 28, 2020 12:50:03 GMT
I don't think it is Momo, I don't think it is. Besides I don't think that there is any indication that the electorate would trust any alternative. They're making it harder for people to vote, they changing the constitution and suppressing the judiciary, they wont legislate for basic rights that we lose from Brexit and austerity continues to torture people at a fast pace and they're intending to have another go at unions and workers rights. Believe me the people of this country are in grave danger and that bumbling fop haired ponce at the helm is only the idiot salesman for the real bastards. For me the main task by which they will be judged is still delivering Brexit. You might not like it but I believe that to be the case. I even think that working class voters see that as a priority.It does matter. All the other things that also matter on a day to day basis it's up to Labour to put something forward when the occasion arises...whenever that is and if Labour are in a fit state. But most of the working class are not helpless disabled dependents....and I am certainly not saying that those on genuine need should suffer.....for instance many ordinary people are concerned about law and order and whilst you might see Patel as an extreme right wing nutter, others might see her as somebody trying to do something about crime. Likewise it seems as the electorate generally trust Boris on the economy/ their jobs rather than Labour. Many would argue that the left / right pendulum has swung too far to the left, so what we have now is readjustment.......but it's not me that Labour has to convince it is the electorate.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 28, 2020 17:16:18 GMT
Irrespective of the Tory government and Brexit I do have some sympathy with Auston Mitchell's view.. I'm not sure that we are as well off as we're made out to be. We need to be very careful in the Brexit negotiations.....I'd imagine the Spanish , French and Italians would have no qualms in putting themselves first.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Feb 28, 2020 19:49:47 GMT
About time the lazy twat showed his face to the public, but how about him showing a bit of sense in the current circumstances and not shaking hands with lots of people and explaining why unnecessary physical contact should be avoided ?
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 28, 2020 23:23:16 GMT
Tax cuts coming ? Be interesting to see if the basic rate tax decrease is kept.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 29, 2020 10:42:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 12:37:10 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 29, 2020 13:47:47 GMT
Yep thats the civil service for you, its funny this happens just as there was talk of a leak inquiry into the briefing from civil service sources including claims that MI5 had to take the extraordinary step of saying were rubbish. This guy is the one who sat next to Rudd and fed her the wrong information at windrush inquiry that led to her resignation. As has been pointed out for an anonymous civil servant he seems awfully media savvy including the timing being a saturday and feeding the story to the bbc in advance.
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