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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 10:03:33 GMT
It's fair to say most people on here have worked you out, based on your posts and responses. And as I have said before, your opinion about me means jack shit! It's Ok to not be Ok....remember?
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 10:06:01 GMT
And as I have said before, your opinion about me means jack shit! It's Ok to not be Ok....remember? I am absolutely fine
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 10:07:50 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 10:08:48 GMT
It's Ok to not be Ok....remember? I am absolutely fine Apologies, I thought when you were chucking abuse at me that you'd lost it again.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 13, 2023 10:12:46 GMT
I'd be interested to know whether the increased tax revenue the government gets from the extreme profiteering of the energy companies is offset or even exceeded by the damage to the economy as a result of the public reining in spending as a result of inflation and those energy bills? My suspicion would be that the government is loath to help the public out too much because it wants to generate as much tax revenue as possible from energy company profiteering ahead of Jeremy Hunt providing some income tax cut bribes to the electorate ahead of the general election next Spring. Which tells you what you need to know about what the government really thinks about the people. I have no doubt Jeremy is trying to build up a Warchest to sprinkle liberally to targeted audiences who might vote Tory. No point in wasting it and giving it to people who might actually need it that won't vote for you. Many people have Goldfish memories and Vote on current feelgood factors Every penny saved by not paying Public Sector Workers contributes to The Pot I doubt much will be raised in Winfall Taxes when Energy Companies can offset 100% any monies they spend dismantling obsolete Oil Rigs. They would rather do that than hand it over in Tax
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Post by wannabee on Apr 13, 2023 10:16:51 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... Do you think Starmer has a Superiority Complex?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 10:21:19 GMT
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 10:55:48 GMT
I am absolutely fine Apologies, I thought when you were chucking abuse at me that you'd lost it again. Abuse?
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 10:56:21 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... Do you think Starmer has a Superiority Complex? Over you then maybe yes
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Apr 13, 2023 11:25:13 GMT
Always amuses me that when it's pointed out on here about fortunes made by those shafting the public or their workforce,there are certain posters who accuse others of envy, yet when a public sector worker tries to keep their wages in line with private sector earnings those same posters accuse them of greed.
The usual right wing hypocrisy.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 11:26:05 GMT
Apologies, I thought when you were chucking abuse at me that you'd lost it again. Abuse? Yeah...abuse.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2023 11:37:15 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... Do you think Starmer has a Superiority Complex?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2023 11:38:31 GMT
I'd be interested to know whether the increased tax revenue the government gets from the extreme profiteering of the energy companies is offset or even exceeded by the damage to the economy as a result of the public reining in spending as a result of inflation and those energy bills? My suspicion would be that the government is loath to help the public out too much because it wants to generate as much tax revenue as possible from energy company profiteering ahead of Jeremy Hunt providing some income tax cut bribes to the electorate ahead of the general election next Spring. Which tells you what you need to know about what the government really thinks about the people. I have no doubt Jeremy is trying to build up a Warchest to sprinkle liberally to targeted audiences who might vote Tory. No point in wasting it and giving it to people who might actually need it that won't vote for you. Many people have Goldfish memories and Vote on current feelgood factors Every penny saved by not paying Public Sector Workers contributes to The Pot I doubt much will be raised in Winfall Taxes when Energy Companies can offset 100% any monies they spend dismantling obsolete Oil Rigs. They would rather do that than hand it over in Tax That's the plan apparently. Tax cut vote bribes in April. Election in May.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 12:02:34 GMT
I have no doubt Jeremy is trying to build up a Warchest to sprinkle liberally to targeted audiences who might vote Tory. No point in wasting it and giving it to people who might actually need it that won't vote for you. Many people have Goldfish memories and Vote on current feelgood factors Every penny saved by not paying Public Sector Workers contributes to The Pot I doubt much will be raised in Winfall Taxes when Energy Companies can offset 100% any monies they spend dismantling obsolete Oil Rigs. They would rather do that than hand it over in Tax That's the plan apparently. Tax cut vote bribes in April. Election in May. If it works, that’s a pretty efficient policy. Screw the system for years to enrich your friends and family, try to avoid crazy scandals for a short period and then enrich a few voters on the fence just before the election. If it works, they understand how politics works at least.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 12:23:24 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Apr 13, 2023 13:19:52 GMT
Always amuses me that when it's pointed out on here about fortunes made by those shafting the public or their workforce,there are certain posters who accuse others of envy, yet when a public sector worker tries to keep their wages in line with private sector earnings those same posters accuse them of greed. The usual right wing hypocrisy. usual left wing hypocrisy methinks ?
i would say that the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers. therefore i would suggest that the majority of public sector workers are greedier than the majority of private sector workers .
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2023 13:22:50 GMT
That's the plan apparently. Tax cut vote bribes in April. Election in May. If it works, that’s a pretty efficient policy. Screw the system for years to enrich your friends and family, try to avoid crazy scandals for a short period and then enrich a few voters on the fence just before the election. If it works, they understand how politics works at least. I'm sure they understand it very well, and who can blame them for exploiting the electorate if the electorate continues to fall for it every time.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 13:42:45 GMT
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Post by slash on Apr 13, 2023 14:18:49 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 14:20:58 GMT
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Post by cerebralstokie on Apr 13, 2023 14:49:24 GMT
Always amuses me that when it's pointed out on here about fortunes made by those shafting the public or their workforce,there are certain posters who accuse others of envy, yet when a public sector worker tries to keep their wages in line with private sector earnings those same posters accuse them of greed. The usual right wing hypocrisy. usual left wing hypocrisy methinks ?
i would say that the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers. therefore i would suggest that the majority of public sector workers are greedier than the majority of private sector workers .
Is this an evidence based assertion?
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Post by elystokie on Apr 13, 2023 15:08:33 GMT
usual left wing hypocrisy methinks ?
i would say that the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers. therefore i would suggest that the majority of public sector workers are greedier than the majority of private sector workers .
Is this an evidence based assertion? I very much doubt it 🧐 Sounds very 'Boris' to me, a load of bollocks based on another load of bollocks.
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Post by dexter97 on Apr 13, 2023 15:27:29 GMT
usual left wing hypocrisy methinks ?
i would say that the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers. therefore i would suggest that the majority of public sector workers are greedier than the majority of private sector workers .
Is this an evidence based assertion? The average pay of public sector workers is higher than that of the private sector (by about 5 - 10%, IIRC, although the gap has been eroded), but that's mainly because the types of jobs in the public sector tend to be of a more 'professional' nature. If you compare equivalent jobs (using nurses & teachers as examples), those employed in private hospitals and schools are better-paid than their public sector counterparts. So while the claim that 'the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers' is not incorrect, without the relevant context, it's meaningless. I'm not sure where to start with the non sequitur about greed.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 13, 2023 15:38:03 GMT
Is this an evidence based assertion? The average pay of public sector workers is higher than that of the private sector (by about 5 - 10%, IIRC, although the gap has been eroded), but that's mainly because the types of jobs in the public sector tend to be of a more 'professional' nature. If you compare equivalent jobs (using nurses & teachers as examples), those employed in private hospitals and schools are better-paid than their public sector counterparts. So while the claim that 'the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers' is not incorrect, without the relevant context, it's meaningless. I'm not sure where to start with the non sequitur about greed. And to add to that the private sector saw a 7.2% increase in wages compared to a 3.3% increase in the public sector in 2022. That's levelled off to around 5.5% for both sectors in 2023 showing the power of joining a union and striking for a better deal...........
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Post by str8outtahampton on Apr 13, 2023 15:39:33 GMT
Is this an evidence based assertion? The average pay of public sector workers is higher than that of the private sector (by about 5 - 10%, IIRC, although the gap has been eroded), but that's mainly because the types of jobs in the public sector tend to be of a more 'professional' nature. If you compare equivalent jobs (using nurses & teachers as examples), those employed in private hospitals and schools are better-paid than their public sector counterparts. So while the claim that 'the majority of private sector workers are lower paid than the majority of public sector workers' is not incorrect, without the relevant context, it's meaningless. I'm not sure where to start with the non sequitur about greed. If your reasoned arguments, expressed in a measured and articulate way, weren't enough - you throw in Latin *. Proof-positive that your contribution is jiggery-wokery...! (*I absolutely loved his (or her - we don't know) non-sequitur btw).
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Apr 13, 2023 15:43:43 GMT
My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else? It's fair to say most people on here have worked you out, based on your posts and responses. And it wasn't difficult!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 15:59:29 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2023 16:51:35 GMT
Braverman really is an extremely dangerous character. She now wants to overturn the recommendations of the Macpherson enquiry, following the tragic murder of Stephen Lawrence to 'save police time'. So now if somebody is racially abused (just verbally mind) in the street or online, then they will just have to take it on the chin and suck it up because the perpetrator will no longer be breaking the law. Be under no illusions this is a callous and brazen attempt to reduce the crime FIGURES in time for the next election, so they can claim they have reduced actual crime. The reality being of course, that they haven't reduced crime at all, just the crime figures. Indeed crime is actually likely to increase, as racist cowards will soon realise that there is no longer any comeback for them, when they spew their hate. Is this really the type of country we want to live in? www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/police-hate-incidents-racism-braverman-b2319012.html
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Post by gawa on Apr 13, 2023 18:31:28 GMT
Braverman really is an extremely dangerous character. She now wants to overturn the recommendations of the Macpherson enquiry, following the tragic murder of Stephen Lawrence to 'save police time'. So now if somebody is racially abused (just verbally mind) in the street or online, then they will just have to take it on the chin and suck it up because the perpetrator will no longer be breaking the law. Be under no illusions this is a callous and brazen attempt to reduce the crime FIGURES in time for the next election, so they can claim they have reduced actual crime. The reality being of course, that they haven't reduced crime at all, just the crime figures. Indeed crime is actually likely to increase, as racist cowards will soon realise that there is no longer any comeback for them, when they spew their hate. Is this really the type of country we want to live in? www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/police-hate-incidents-racism-braverman-b2319012.htmlExcellent post.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 13, 2023 18:52:18 GMT
Bollocks, I’ve missed Talking Pints! Anyone else see it?😉
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