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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 12, 2023 22:31:05 GMT
Because Doctors save lives Doctors are literally more important than all those examples having a shortage of doctors because we don't pay them enough is just stupid The fact that the majority work unsociable hours including weekends and nights just adds to the injustice of what junior doctors get paid as well…… Are there not literally millions of British workers who work "unsociable hours" who earn similar or less to what junior doctors earn?
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Post by wannabee on Apr 12, 2023 22:36:22 GMT
What defines a junior doctor and in what stratosphere does a 35% wage demand be considered normal? I don’t know, I’m asking Utterly ridiculous isn't it. Are we heading into referendum territory on some of our public services? In my world, if our clients pay for a service and we can't deliver that service, we don't get paid, the client gets their money back and people get fired - The same goes for pretty much any private sector organisation. Why is that not the same with our public services? It's not fair that ordinary Brits are being forced to pay additional sums for private health (often when they can't afford it) simply because they can't get access to the service they've been spending their whole life paying for - It's disgusting. Some of the demands we are seeing from our failing public sector are truly astounding. On what planet are these pay rise demands deemed "reasonable"? I totally agree you comment in the round is utterly ridiculous I do agree you get the service you pay for which is at the core of the problem If you underfund a Public Service its quite obvious you will get a substandard Service International comparisons of Per Capita spending on Heath Service would require an additional £40Bn per year to match the 14 Euro Members. To match Germany £73Bn per year If your Libertarian Agenda is simply to reduce spending on NHS to minimum service which reduces Taxes to allow people who can then afford it to avail of Private Health Insurance at least be honest rather than spouting Bogus Bollocks www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/news/uk-spent-around-a-fifth-less-than-european-neighbours-on-health-care-in-last-decade
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Post by gawa on Apr 12, 2023 22:47:44 GMT
What labour really should be doing in their little sunak ads is:
"Rishi Sunak gave 58 billion to fraudsters" "Let's use that money for our NHS instead"
But for some bizarre reason they're focusing in benefits fraud now ffs. Living up to Rachel Reeves words after she told people on benefits "Labour is not for you".
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 12, 2023 22:52:37 GMT
Utterly ridiculous isn't it. Are we heading into referendum territory on some of our public services? In my world, if our clients pay for a service and we can't deliver that service, we don't get paid, the client gets their money back and people get fired - The same goes for pretty much any private sector organisation. Why is that not the same with our public services? It's not fair that ordinary Brits are being forced to pay additional sums for private health (often when they can't afford it) simply because they can't get access to the service they've been spending their whole life paying for - It's disgusting. Some of the demands we are seeing from our failing public sector are truly astounding. On what planet are these pay rise demands deemed "reasonable"? I totally agree you comment in the round is utterly ridiculous I do agree you get the service you pay for which is at the core of the problem If you underfund a Public Service its quite obvious you will get a substandard Service International comparisons of Per Capita spending on Heath Service would require an additional £40Bn per year to match the 14 Euro Members. To match Germany £73Bn per year If your Libertarian Agenda is simply to reduce spending on NHS to minimum service which reduces Taxes to allow people who can then afford it to avail of Private Health Insurance at least be honest rather than spouting Bogus Bollocks www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/news/uk-spent-around-a-fifth-less-than-european-neighbours-on-health-care-in-last-decadeWe've spent a fifth less yet our service is significantly more than a fifth worse. So your answer to the failings of the NHS is simply to give it more money and for the customer, who is already not getting value for money, to pay more? Where have we ranked since 2019 on healthcare spend out of interest? Not a trick question. Whether or not you think 40 billion a year is or isn't reasonable, should it not be enough to expect basic levels of service? Ie not having to wait weeks or months to see a GP.. P.s if politicians genuinely feel a significant proportion of Britain wants to pay more for the health service and that it's necessary to pay more, then that position is perfectly reasonable but it should go before the people in the form of a referendum or clearly laid out in an election campaign (effectively acting as a referendum) - Note how that turned out for Jo Swinson!!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 12, 2023 22:55:04 GMT
What labour really should be doing in their little sunak ads is: "Rishi Sunak gave 58 billion to fraudsters" "Let's use that money for our NHS instead" But for some bizarre reason they're focusing in benefits fraud now ffs. Living up to Rachel Reeves words after she told people on benefits "Labour is not for you". The NHS needs changing and both parties know it but both parties are absolutely terrified of touching it.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 12, 2023 23:20:36 GMT
What labour really should be doing in their little sunak ads is: "Rishi Sunak gave 58 billion to fraudsters" "Let's use that money for our NHS instead" But for some bizarre reason they're focusing in benefits fraud now ffs. Living up to Rachel Reeves words after she told people on benefits "Labour is not for you". The NHS needs changing and both parties know it but both parties are absolutely terrified of touching it. Imo we need to get out the 30/40% profit margin being made on the back of the NHS now, the equipment, the staff, the buildings, the transport, the drugs, the services. All of it comes with a mark up now. Never mind the fact it’s all been split up. The waste because of all of this now is farcical because things are just badly managed and everything is contracted out. It’s the NHS in name only, it’s just a badge to stick on companies robbing us blind, it’s completely hollow. And it’s our money
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 23:55:52 GMT
The NHS needs changing and both parties know it but both parties are absolutely terrified of touching it. Imo we need to get out the 30/40% profit margin being made on the back of the NHS now, the equipment, the staff, the buildings, the transport, the drugs, the services. All of it comes with a mark up now. Never mind the fact it’s all been split up. The waste because of all of this now is farcical because things are just badly managed and everything is contracted out. It’s the NHS in name only, it’s just a badge to stick on companies robbing us blind, it’s completely hollow. And it’s our money You are right of course. Come to live in the US where my wife and I have just had to find $25,000 for IVF. The birth itself will likely cost between $4-15k on top of that (if we make it that far). My wife’s insurance won’t cover it (IVF, not yet sure about birth) and it isn’t a procedure for me, so there’s no traction there either. Drugs are far more expensive in the US as well, because there isn’t a single buyer program like the UK. So diabetics often ration insulin to get them through the month in some poorer areas (a common example). If the NHS does fail, maybe the UK will go towards adopting a new, competent model that works much better………what’s the general standard of your politicians nowadays and how long did it take for a Brexit deal that no one even likes?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2023 0:48:06 GMT
Imo we need to get out the 30/40% profit margin being made on the back of the NHS now, the equipment, the staff, the buildings, the transport, the drugs, the services. All of it comes with a mark up now. Never mind the fact it’s all been split up. The waste because of all of this now is farcical because things are just badly managed and everything is contracted out. It’s the NHS in name only, it’s just a badge to stick on companies robbing us blind, it’s completely hollow. And it’s our money You are right of course. Come to live in the US where my wife and I have just had to find $25,000 for IVF. The birth itself will likely cost between $4-15k on top of that (if we make it that far). My wife’s insurance won’t cover it (IVF, not yet sure about birth) and it isn’t a procedure for me, so there’s no traction there either. Drugs are far more expensive in the US as well, because there isn’t a single buyer program like the UK. So diabetics often ration insulin to get them through the month in some poorer areas (a common example). If the NHS does fail, maybe the UK will go towards adopting a new, competent model that works much better………what’s the general standard of your politicians nowadays and how long did it take for a Brexit deal that no one even likes?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2023 1:36:14 GMT
Good grief, the absolute state of this ...
"We need to address the impact of the Human Rights Act in Britain" ... did she actually just say that?
The impact on WHO?
The ordinary working man and a woman, or the impoverished mill owners at the top of the hill?
FFS!
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Post by foster on Apr 13, 2023 4:42:13 GMT
What labour really should be doing in their little sunak ads is: "Rishi Sunak gave 58 billion to fraudsters" "Let's use that money for our NHS instead" But for some bizarre reason they're focusing in benefits fraud now ffs. Living up to Rachel Reeves words after she told people on benefits "Labour is not for you". They should put that on the side of a bus so that people take notice.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 13, 2023 5:36:32 GMT
Good grief, the absolute state of this ... "We need to address the impact of the Human Rights Act in Britain" ... did she actually just say that? The impact on WHO? The ordinary working man and a woman, or the impoverished mill owners at the top of the hill? FFS! I'm really struggling to see why her views are still considered remotely relevant, she's a proven fucking fruitloop!! I'm not sure if the people holding these interviews want us to laugh at her or pity her 🤷
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 6:28:55 GMT
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 6:35:09 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power...
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Apr 13, 2023 6:50:07 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... If that's the sum total of your ambitions, then that tells us all we need to know about you ..... If we didn't already
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Apr 13, 2023 6:50:18 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... If that's the sum total of your ambitions, then that tells us all we need to know about you ..... If we didn't already
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 7:28:06 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 7:28:45 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... Why?
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Post by 4372 on Apr 13, 2023 7:53:00 GMT
And who are the Tory's?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 13, 2023 8:33:25 GMT
The fact that the majority work unsociable hours including weekends and nights just adds to the injustice of what junior doctors get paid as well…… Are there not literally millions of British workers who work "unsociable hours" who earn similar or less to what junior doctors earn? £14 an hour. And these aren't trainee doctors just shadowing more experienced staff until they're ready, they are thrown in and the deep end often because of staff shortages driven by - wait for it - people leaving to move abroad or leaving the sector. And the cycle continues..........................
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Post by lordb on Apr 13, 2023 8:39:27 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... That could possibly happen after the election but not before the desire across the Labour Party to beat the Tories will temper grievances against Starmer until after they have won
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 8:59:50 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... If that's the sum total of your ambitions, then that tells us all we need to know about you ..... If we didn't already My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 13, 2023 9:01:16 GMT
If that's the sum total of your ambitions, then that tells us all we need to know about you ..... If we didn't already My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else? It's fair to say most people on here have worked you out, based on your posts and responses.
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Post by gawa on Apr 13, 2023 9:01:38 GMT
I cannot wait for the breakdown on here when Starmer implodes the Labour Party and the Tory's stay in power... I think there'd be a great implosion if Starmer won tbh. Particularly after 6 months and if he doesn't make the changes required. With the Tory's people expect it to be shit and get shit in return. Starmer on the other hand will bring hope and cause a greater implosion if he ends up being as right wing and authoritive as the Labour left think.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 13, 2023 9:05:24 GMT
If that's the sum total of your ambitions, then that tells us all we need to know about you ..... If we didn't already My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else? Yeah, you're a regular Rubik's Cube to figure out...
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 9:06:38 GMT
My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else? It's fair to say most people on here have worked you out, based on your posts and responses. And as I have said before, your opinion about me means jack shit!
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 9:07:09 GMT
My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else? Yeah, you're a regular Rubik's Cube to figure out... Good attempt!
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Post by knype on Apr 13, 2023 9:07:56 GMT
My ambitions? Another one who thinks that they think and know everyone else? It's fair to say most people on here have worked you out, based on your posts and responses. Are you that BBC reporter that Elon Musk spoke with ?
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Post by wannabee on Apr 13, 2023 9:14:51 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2023 9:42:47 GMT
How long before the government starts boasting about how well they've done in avoiding a recession (technically they have, so far ) However, the economy has basically been flatlining for the last five years, with the Covid pandemic like the last heartbeat of a dying man...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2023 9:56:46 GMT
I'd be interested to know whether the increased tax revenue the government gets from the extreme profiteering of the energy companies is offset or even exceeded by the damage to the economy as a result of the public reining in spending as a result of inflation and those energy bills? My suspicion would be that the government is loath to help the public out too much because it wants to generate as much tax revenue as possible from energy company profiteering ahead of Jeremy Hunt providing some income tax cut bribes to the electorate ahead of the general election next Spring. Which tells you what you need to know about what the government really thinks about the people.
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