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Post by wannabee on Jan 29, 2023 12:24:14 GMT
Yes but using an old favourite of yours CGT @ 20% or more likely 10% using the Business Start up Rate rather than 45% under Income Tax Rate
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Post by gawa on Jan 29, 2023 12:35:14 GMT
As Oggy says they are going down the Ministerial Code route rather than Tax Avoidance, I doubt many will draw the distinction By definition in Rishi Letter, Nadhim The Conservative Party Chairman must have either acted without Integrity or was not Accountable or he lacked Professionalism maybe all three. While this outcome serves as a Schadenfreude towards the slimy Zahawi it is an unsatisfactory outcome. It is in the gift of Rishi to Publish the findings of the enquiry or not. Whether they are published or not the only logical conclusion for the findings is that Zahawi acted improperly when he negotiated with HMRC while Chancellor What is not clear is if Zahawi's position influenced him in getting a more favourable outcome with HMRC than an ordinary member of Joe Public. There is a Prima Facie case which should be investigated further. If this did happen it is a Criminal Offence under Common Law which should be investigated by the CPS and the Ministerial Advisors initial findings handed over. Do I have any confidence this will happen? The Legal Definition of Misconduct in a Public Office is: The criminal offence of misconduct in a Public Office may be committed by a Public Office Holder who, while acting as a Public Office Holder wilfully neglects to perform his or her duty or wilfully misconduct his or her self, to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the Public's Trust in that Office Give him a break. I mean who hasn’t accidentally established a complex trust structure in Gibraltar and then erroneously claimed it was set up by your father, and then mistakenly denied that you were a beneficiary!? My LinkedIn is full of tax lawyers who are absolutely damning of Zahawi and his aggressive attempts to silence the truth coming out. White collar crime. He should be prohibited from ever holding public office again, and the trust structure he used to dodge tax and hide assets should be made unlawful. At least he had to pay lots in penalties so he has had to pay more than had he been honest from day one. Should be locked up. Why do those who commit pety theft get jail time but not someone who steals 3 million from the very public they're elected to serve. Presume he will get a criminal record at least?
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 29, 2023 12:46:37 GMT
As Oggy says they are going down the Ministerial Code route rather than Tax Avoidance, I doubt many will draw the distinction By definition in Rishi Letter, Nadhim The Conservative Party Chairman must have either acted without Integrity or was not Accountable or he lacked Professionalism maybe all three. While this outcome serves as a Schadenfreude towards the slimy Zahawi it is an unsatisfactory outcome. It is in the gift of Rishi to Publish the findings of the enquiry or not. Whether they are published or not the only logical conclusion for the findings is that Zahawi acted improperly when he negotiated with HMRC while Chancellor What is not clear is if Zahawi's position influenced him in getting a more favourable outcome with HMRC than an ordinary member of Joe Public. There is a Prima Facie case which should be investigated further. If this did happen it is a Criminal Offence under Common Law which should be investigated by the CPS and the Ministerial Advisors initial findings handed over. Do I have any confidence this will happen? The Legal Definition of Misconduct in a Public Office is: The criminal offence of misconduct in a Public Office may be committed by a Public Office Holder who, while acting as a Public Office Holder wilfully neglects to perform his or her duty or wilfully misconduct his or her self, to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the Public's Trust in that Office Give him a break. I mean who hasn’t accidentally established a complex trust structure in Gibraltar and then erroneously claimed it was set up by your father, and then mistakenly denied that you were a beneficiary!? My LinkedIn is full of tax lawyers who are absolutely damning of Zahawi and his aggressive attempts to silence the truth coming out. White collar crime. He should be prohibited from ever holding public office again, and the trust structure he used to dodge tax and hide assets should be made unlawful. At least he had to pay lots in penalties so he has had to pay more than had he been honest from day one. The problem is he hasn't actually been sacked for any of that, he's effectively been sacked for fucking up the cover story for all of that!
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 29, 2023 12:55:00 GMT
Give him a break. I mean who hasn’t accidentally established a complex trust structure in Gibraltar and then erroneously claimed it was set up by your father, and then mistakenly denied that you were a beneficiary!? My LinkedIn is full of tax lawyers who are absolutely damning of Zahawi and his aggressive attempts to silence the truth coming out. White collar crime. He should be prohibited from ever holding public office again, and the trust structure he used to dodge tax and hide assets should be made unlawful. At least he had to pay lots in penalties so he has had to pay more than had he been honest from day one. The problem is he hasn't actually been sacked for any of that, he's effectively been sacked for fucking up the cover story for all of that! It’s awful. Sunak sacked him for getting caught. Not for the crime.
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Post by gawa on Jan 29, 2023 12:56:29 GMT
"He is widely liked and respected by his colleagues: his life story of arriving in the UK as a child, not speaking English, rising to become a multi millionaire and a cabinet minister."
More from Chris Mason at the BBC. Trying to portray him as rag to riches but missing out that he comes from a very wealthy family where his grandad was the former governer of the central bank or Iraq as well as minister of trade. While his dad was director of Balshore investments.
Yet if you read that paragraph from Chris Mason it gives the impression he is rags to riches.
Hopefully when the next tory controversy gets sorted out in regards to the BBC, I really hope they have a complete clear out of their political reporters. Terrible journalism for far too long.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 29, 2023 12:59:13 GMT
"He is widely liked and respected by his colleagues: his life story of arriving in the UK as a child, not speaking English, rising to become a multi millionaire and a cabinet minister." More from Chris Mason at the BBC. Trying to portray him as rag to riches but missing out that he comes from a very wealthy family where his grandad was the former governer of the central bank or Iraq as well as minister of trade. While his dad was director of Balshore investments. Yet if you read that paragraph from Chris Mason it gives the impression he is rags to riches. Hopefully when the next tory controversy gets sorted out in regards to the BBC, I really hope they have a complete clear out of their political reporters. Terrible journalism for far too long. I didn’t know about his background of wealth. Another silver spoon tory.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 29, 2023 13:30:18 GMT
The problem is he hasn't actually been sacked for any of that, he's effectively been sacked for fucking up the cover story for all of that! It’s awful. Sunak sacked him for getting caught. Not for the crime. Interesting that he refused to resign, a case of ... "if you want me out, then you're going to have to remove me pal." I can't actually remember who was the last cabinet minister to be officially sacked. Also interesting how quickly the enquiry was completed, what was it 48 hours? The evidence was obviously extremely compelling.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 29, 2023 13:32:18 GMT
It’s awful. Sunak sacked him for getting caught. Not for the crime. Interesting that he refused to resign, a case of ... "if you want me out, then you're going to have to remove me pal." I can't actually remember who was the last cabinet minister to be officially sacked. Also interesting how quickly the enquiry was completed, what was it 48 hours? The evidence was obviously extremely compelling. The speed of the inquiry is the only good thing coming out of this. All inquiries under Johnson took as long as possible And a minister is never sacked if the PM doesn’t think they really did anything wrong.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2023 14:15:12 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 29, 2023 17:53:13 GMT
If Gaslighting was ever to become an Olympic sport, I think we've found the perfect team captain!
I really have no idea how he can sit there and insult the intelligence of Ridge (nevermind the viewers) so easily ...
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Post by Veritas on Jan 29, 2023 18:41:36 GMT
If Gaslighting was ever to become an Olympic sport, I think we've found the perfect team captain! I really have no idea how he can sit there and insult the intelligence of Ridge (nevermind the viewers) so easily ... And Gove is a bellend
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Post by questionable on Jan 29, 2023 19:02:20 GMT
Staggering how had and corrupt this government is, it’s like some mad comedy film starring Borat as our PM.
Boris was awful, Truss a catastrophe and Sunak a sniveling weaseling character who doesn’t say or do anything.
Come May I can guarantee that The Conservative Party will be almost wiped out and there’s no chance they can lumber about until the next GE, surely they will call a GE sooner rather than later??
They’re totally imploding day by day and Sunak needs to tread carefully with his doings soon.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2023 19:15:49 GMT
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Post by 828492 on Jan 29, 2023 19:29:21 GMT
But for the Daily Telegraph, the Daily Mail, the Sun, and the Daily Express telling me that Alexander ‘Boorish’ Johnson was a saint in shining armour, I would think he was a bit of a wrong ‘un.
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Post by generationex on Jan 29, 2023 20:00:44 GMT
"He is widely liked and respected by his colleagues: his life story of arriving in the UK as a child, not speaking English, rising to become a multi millionaire and a cabinet minister." More from Chris Mason at the BBC. Trying to portray him as rag to riches but missing out that he comes from a very wealthy family where his grandad was the former governer of the central bank or Iraq as well as minister of trade. While his dad was director of Balshore investments. Yet if you read that paragraph from Chris Mason it gives the impression he is rags to riches. Hopefully when the next tory controversy gets sorted out in regards to the BBC, I really hope they have a complete clear out of their political reporters. Terrible journalism for far too long. I didn’t know about his background of wealth. Another silver spoon tory. When he was born every Iraqi bank note had his grandad’s signature on it. Doesn’t feel too ‘rags to riches’ does it. The truth is his family were replaced by Sadam Hussain as one of the richest and most powerful in their country. That’s why they became ‘refugees’. I doubt they came over in an inflatable dinghy.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 29, 2023 21:25:45 GMT
From Zahawi's letter:
"Dear Prime Minister,
Thank you for your kind words. It has been, after being blessed with my loving family, the privilege of my life to serve in successive governments and make what I believe to have been a tangible difference to the country I love."
He certainly has made a tangible difference. He fleeced it of several million pounds. Or would've done had he not been caught
Such love for one's country. Always worth bearing in mind your average Tory's love of their country next time they're pictured in front of the flag or bang on about patriotism and how proud of being British they are. This is how much they really care about Britain.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 29, 2023 21:52:04 GMT
From Zahawi's letter: "Dear Prime Minister, Thank you for your kind words. It has been, after being blessed with my loving family, the privilege of my life to serve in successive governments and make what I believe to have been a tangible difference to the country I love." He certainly has made a tangible difference. He fleeced it of several million pounds. Or would've done had he not been caught Such love for one's country. Always worth bearing in mind your average Tory's love of their country next time they're pictured in front of the flag or bang on about patriotism and how proud of being British they are. This is how much they really care about Britain.
Also from his letter:
"I arrived in England escaping persecution and speaking no English."
To be fair to him, he does speak excellent King's English.
How unfortunate then, that it appears that nobody actually taught him how to say "sorry".
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 30, 2023 7:26:30 GMT
The great thing about Bozo these days (if it wasn't already the case) is that whenever he says something, you automatically know that the opposite is the truth.
So, when claiming that Richard Sharp "100% knows nothing about my personal finances", it's no surprise when, several days later, it's proven that Bozo was told to stop discussing his finances with him.
Likewise, there will have been no threat made, perhaps even no phone call...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64397745
What is interesting is Bozo's profile is clearly being worked on in the area of Ukraine. His strategists have evidently decided that it's a strong area for him. Sadly, it seems he's started working on his comeback. Unluckily for the good of the country, I doubt we've seen the last of this ridiculous man.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 30, 2023 8:30:14 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 30, 2023 8:43:36 GMT
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Post by Davef on Jan 30, 2023 10:15:34 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jan 30, 2023 10:51:25 GMT
So the tories had the army spying on people on social media and shadow banning them?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 30, 2023 10:57:22 GMT
So the tories had the army spying on people on social media and shadow banning them? No surprise there, they've been doing it for years.
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Post by hoffgreen on Jan 30, 2023 11:03:53 GMT
Another "conspiracy theory" proved to be true... 77th brigade.. People who called this out were derided and said nooo our government wouldn't do this...
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 30, 2023 11:11:47 GMT
I'm sure army intelligence is used all the time to assist our security services. They need to do it to keep an eye of terrorists etc but if it's true that they used it to monitor dissenters on lockdowns then that's surely going well beyond it's remit. But this is a Mail story and I can't help but think I don't believe anything they have to say about anything. OS.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 30, 2023 12:35:04 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2023 16:37:17 GMT
Bloody firemen jumping on the strike bandwagon now, just who do they think they are? 🙄
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2023 16:43:29 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 30, 2023 16:49:54 GMT
Bloody firemen jumping on the strike bandwagon now, just who do they think they are? 🙄 Bloody heroes, that's what they are....
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2023 17:15:06 GMT
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