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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 21, 2022 11:42:13 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 11:43:30 GMT
Basically, seeing these MPs coming out in support of Bozo, I think it's safe to conclude that Conservative politicians have absolutely zero credibility, integrity or scruples and all they care about is power. Like that should shock anyone, but why you'd choose to elect someone like that is a decent question.
That's all the return of Bozo is about, trying to protect their seats in parliament.
It'll be very interesting to see how this plays with the public. Have they had enough of him this time? Are there enough knypes in the country who'll cheerfully overlook anything and everything?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 11:44:49 GMT
Really? This is Bonkers Britain 2022. More than likely now, I reckon.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 21, 2022 11:49:28 GMT
Really? This is Bonkers Britain 2022. More than likely now, I reckon. The only hope is him not quite getting to 100. You'd think he'd have to be sure he'll get to the hundred before he'll dare risk humiliation of not getting there. Apparently they aren't releasing the names of who voted for who, so can only cross fingers that behind closed doors enough of them come to the conclusion bringing him back would be one piss-take too far for the public But obviously if he does get there, he's nailed-on to get the members on board with his unique brand of absolute bullshit. If they believe this rose-tinted myth of him being a saviour, suppose we'll just have to all look forward to him being destroyed in an election - if he makes it that far without being engulfed in more scandal
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Post by andystokey on Oct 21, 2022 11:53:43 GMT
Can he be in post less than 44 days? 🤣
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 11:57:18 GMT
Really? This is Bonkers Britain 2022. More than likely now, I reckon. The only hope is him not quite getting to 100. You'd think he'd have to be sure he'll get to the hundred before he'll dare risk humiliation of not getting there. Apparently they aren't releasing the names of who voted for who, so can only cross fingers that behind closed doors enough of them come to the conclusion bringing him back would be one piss-take too far for the public But obviously if he does get there, he's nailed-on to get the members on board with his unique brand of absolute bullshit. If they believe this rose-tinted myth of him being a saviour, suppose we'll just have to all look forward to him being destroyed in an election - if he makes it that far without being engulfed in more scandal Ah, but would he? That's the whole point of bringing back someone who's as much of a corrupt incompetent liar as Johnson. Enough of the electorate don't give a shit about stuff like that if you've got funny hair and say naughty things about piccaninnies and bumboys and the like - goes down well with a fair few does stuff like that, sadly.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 21, 2022 11:59:10 GMT
Good question here why is lazy incompetent corrupt boris flying in off holiday to the UK surely he should have been here representing his constituents .yet some on here support this liying treeloader and treat him like the messiah So you think that MPs should be available in UK 24/7 to represent their constituency. What a strange concept.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 21, 2022 12:02:47 GMT
The village idiot for Stoke has spoken. The worrying thing is that this plonker will be back teaching kids in school in a few years time. What a strange concept…….an MP representing the views of their constituency .
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Post by madstokie on Oct 21, 2022 12:03:05 GMT
Boris for prime minister, come on Boris and get brexit finished once an for all. 😀
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Post by andystokey on Oct 21, 2022 12:03:28 GMT
The only hope is him not quite getting to 100. You'd think he'd have to be sure he'll get to the hundred before he'll dare risk humiliation of not getting there. Apparently they aren't releasing the names of who voted for who, so can only cross fingers that behind closed doors enough of them come to the conclusion bringing him back would be one piss-take too far for the public But obviously if he does get there, he's nailed-on to get the members on board with his unique brand of absolute bullshit. If they believe this rose-tinted myth of him being a saviour, suppose we'll just have to all look forward to him being destroyed in an election - if he makes it that far without being engulfed in more scandal Ah, but would he? That's the whole point of bringing back someone who's as much of a corrupt incompetent liar as Johnson. Enough of the electorate don't give a shit about stuff like that if you've got funny hair and say naughty things about piccaninnies and bumboys and the like - goes down well with a fair few does stuff like that, sadly. I agree the strategically sensible thing to do is bring back Boris. 1. He wouldn't be compelled to call a GE as he won one. 2. He is the most likely PM to avoid a 200 seat loss for the Tories. The other two candidates would have to call the GE after Xmas imo and they have a serious chance of being annihilated at the ballot box. The cult of Boris supporters will never vote for Rishi.
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 21, 2022 12:15:41 GMT
If Johnson wins (I think he will) it will just start another crisis for the Tories. Suspect they’ll be a fair few MPs quitting in protest plus the big investigation into him lying to Parliament starts next month.
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Post by flea79 on Oct 21, 2022 12:16:29 GMT
this had led to some debate in the office this week and maybe deserving a seperate thread but who out of the younger generation will ever want to stand for parliament or office in the future?
thankless task that is near enough impossible
still convinced that a jury service style selection of folk to sit as a council for say two years and to debate laws and pass them along with the civil service would be an excellent way forwards
gets rid of our tired old system of adversarial politics and the "council" would act in the interests of the people and not themselves as seems to be the case at the top these days
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 12:18:40 GMT
Ah, but would he? That's the whole point of bringing back someone who's as much of a corrupt incompetent liar as Johnson. Enough of the electorate don't give a shit about stuff like that if you've got funny hair and say naughty things about piccaninnies and bumboys and the like - goes down well with a fair few does stuff like that, sadly. I agree the strategically sensible thing to do is bring back Boris. 1. He wouldn't be compelled to call a GE as he won one. 2. He is the most likely PM to avoid a 200 seat loss for the Tories. The other two candidates would have to call the GE after Xmas imo and they have a serious chance of being annihilated at the ballot box. The cult of Boris supporters will never vote for Rishi. Imagine being in a place mentally where bringing back someone who holds you in such personal contempt that he openly laughs at you for following the orders he disdains himself and who you wanted to see the back of for that reason, amongst others, is now suddenly a desirable thing. It's so strange
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 21, 2022 12:19:02 GMT
It's clear that in politics if you get the sack then that wipes the slate clean and you can start again, all is "forgotten". That's what got Johnson the sack in the end appointing Chris Pincher. It's as though any offence by a politician is just a misdemeanour and put aside. If you fall off your horse, you just get back on again. History is littered with politicians caught out, sacked/made to resign and then resume office: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson#Controversies
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 12:19:37 GMT
If Johnson wins (I think he will) it will just start another crisis for the Tories. Suspect they’ll be a fair few MPs quitting in protest plus the big investigation into him lying to Parliament starts next month. That assumes scruples and integrity amongst Tory MPs...
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 21, 2022 12:20:06 GMT
Why on earth would Kier shit himself!? He has systematically risen in popularity and his opponents are sinking like a stone. He’s laughing. Sure his poularity has risen, and its all assumptions at the moment, but if he gets into power then the acid test begins. Its one of the toughest gigs going, which the whole nation has seen and further afield as well. Time will tell. Absolutely. I’m not saying he will be a great PM. But dog poo would be better than what we have seen in recent years. So the bar for success is low for Starmer
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Post by hotterpotter on Oct 21, 2022 12:20:43 GMT
I wish Boris Johnson would just fuck off.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 12:21:31 GMT
this had led to some debate in the office this week and maybe deserving a seperate thread but who out of the younger generation will ever want to stand for parliament or office in the future? thankless task that is near enough impossible still convinced that a jury service style selection of folk to sit as a council for say two years and to debate laws and pass them along with the civil service would be an excellent way forwards gets rid of our tired old system of adversarial politics and the "council" would act in the interests of the people and not themselves as seems to be the case at the top these days Nah, there are more than enough narcissists who'd love the chance to jump on the MP gravy train. Doesn't matter if they get humiliated or shown up to be fools, made for life then, aren't you. There'll never be a shortage of willing candidates. There never is.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 21, 2022 12:25:22 GMT
It's clear that in politics if you get the sack then that wipes the slate clean and you can start again, all is "forgotten". That's what got Johnson the sack in the end appointing Chris Pincher. It's as though any offence by a politician is just a misdemeanour and put aside. If you fall off your horse, you just get back on again. History is littered with politicians caught out, sacked/made to resign and then resume office: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson#ControversiesThat may well be true. Is there a limit to the number of times you can do that, though? I mean, Johnson is into double figures of various cheatings, misdemeanours, sackings, resignations, affairs etc...why anyone would think he'll suddenly become competent, trustworthy and reliable this time out of all the other times is beyond me
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 21, 2022 12:34:33 GMT
I'm beyond exasperation with this country now. I don't know who I resent more - the Tory party, Boris Johnson himself or his blind, idiotic followers who still worship him as some kind of God.
Is a PM with even one iota of competence and dignity too much to ask?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 21, 2022 12:55:54 GMT
I'm beyond exasperation with this country now. I don't know who I resent more - the Tory party, Boris Johnson himself or his blind, idiotic followers who still worship him as some kind of God. Is a PM with even one iota of competence and dignity too much to ask? Evidently yes.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 21, 2022 12:57:10 GMT
I'm beyond exasperation with this country now. I don't know who I resent more - the Tory party, Boris Johnson himself or his blind, idiotic followers who still worship him as some kind of God. Is a PM with even one iota of competence and dignity too much to ask? Not to mention integrity....thats key for me if Im being honest
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 21, 2022 12:59:35 GMT
Is that why he's a sitting mp 😁😁🤣🤣
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Post by thewonderstuff on Oct 21, 2022 13:02:25 GMT
The village idiot for Stoke has spoken. The worrying thing is that this plonker will be back teaching kids in school in a few years time. What a strange concept…….an MP representing the views of their constituency . Are you saying the electorate of 'Stoke North, Kidsgrove and Talke' asked Dullis to kick Johnson out in July and now the electorate of 'Stoke North, Kidsgrove and Talke' are asking for him to come back 3 months later?! It's shameless.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 21, 2022 13:04:29 GMT
Good question here why is lazy incompetent corrupt boris flying in off holiday to the UK surely he should have been here representing his constituents .yet some on here support this liying treeloader and treat him like the messiah So you think that MPs should be available in UK 24/7 to represent their constituency. What a strange concept. They get paid enough !!!
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 21, 2022 13:07:39 GMT
Itll be interesting to cross reference those backing boris now to those who voted against him ..
Tory party split incoming
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Post by milton58 on Oct 21, 2022 13:17:32 GMT
Listening to people around the swimming pool now in Lanzarote not one person as had a good thing about Boris coming back....it's a fucking joke
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Post by phileetin on Oct 21, 2022 13:18:04 GMT
It's clear that in politics if you get the sack then that wipes the slate clean and you can start again, all is "forgotten". That's what got Johnson the sack in the end appointing Chris Pincher. It's as though any offence by a politician is just a misdemeanour and put aside. If you fall off your horse, you just get back on again. History is littered with politicians caught out, sacked/made to resign and then resume office: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson#ControversiesThat may well be true. Is there a limit to the number of times you can do that, though? I mean, Johnson is into double figures of various cheatings, misdemeanours, sackings, resignations, affairs etc...why anyone would think he'll suddenly become competent, trustworthy and reliable this time out of all the other times is beyond me
i thought the lefties liked criminals having the slate of criminals cleared because the criminals have served their punishment and their basic human rights should allow them to caryy on their lives without any tarnish.
Isn't that why a criminals past convictions aren't allowed to be mentioned in court ?
just different rules applicable to Boris i suppose ?
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Post by Gob Bluth on Oct 21, 2022 13:20:40 GMT
Good question here why is lazy incompetent corrupt boris flying in off holiday to the UK surely he should have been here representing his constituents .yet some on here support this liying treeloader and treat him like the messiah So you think that MPs should be available in UK 24/7 to represent their constituency. What a strange concept. He's on holiday in a completely different time zone. No one expects their MP to be available all the time but it would be nice that while he's a sitting MP and he's being paid that he could bother doing MP stuff like turning up to Parliament. I can only this is what Truss was referencing when she was talking about British workers being lazy.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 21, 2022 13:24:33 GMT
That may well be true. Is there a limit to the number of times you can do that, though? I mean, Johnson is into double figures of various cheatings, misdemeanours, sackings, resignations, affairs etc...why anyone would think he'll suddenly become competent, trustworthy and reliable this time out of all the other times is beyond me i thought the lefties liked criminals having the slate of criminals cleared because the criminals have served their punishment and their basic human rights should allow them to caryy on their lives without any tarnish.
Isn't that why a criminals past convictions aren't allowed to be mentioned in court ? just different rules applicable to Boris i suppose ?
So what you’re saying is Boris is a criminal…
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