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Post by salopstick on Oct 20, 2022 14:32:57 GMT
Regardless on the views of truss and I’m no fan
Tories elect a leader she deserved the backing of her MPs. It’s pretty much a coup. Gutless cunts
They need a prolonged period of reflection in opposition
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Post by werrington on Oct 20, 2022 14:33:48 GMT
If Johnson gets back in as PM I really will just give up on this country and do my best to get out. Where to I don’t know but the UK is going to be a real mess for years to come without the idiot Johnson who will undoubtedly make it even worse. Please God not Johnson 🙏 I agree with you, but Last week I was talking to a business women who runs her own business and has sideline interest like renting out property she owns. She raised the subject of Truss's behaviour, and said " I know he's a lier but I miss Boris".My brother in law frequents pubs, which I don't, and tells me there is a lot of support for Johnson still. The "problem" with democracy is everyone gets just one vote, all opinions are equal, there is no acceptable alternative. He’s a criminal who committed offences whilst he was in power Those offences were breaking the lockdown rules he steadfastly defended and told the police to clamp down heavily on others committing those same offences He also lived in the house that had the most fixed penalties issued to it in the whole of the United Kingdom for breaking those rules Please please fucking please stop defending that twat
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 14:35:31 GMT
I appreciate our government is in a shambles, but the thought struck me this morning that if we have an incompetent, or telling lies, or corrupt PM we get rid of them and force them out of power. Twice this year and it has happened in the past, like Thatcher. There are many so called democracies that would have to go through a long impeachment process. This thought came to me this morning when reading the French news. Macron has just been voted into power for 5 years. He was given power although two thirds of the French people voted for someone else in the first round of the Presidential elections. He does not have a free hand because he is supposedly kept in check by the French Assembly, but www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/19/french-government-to-use-constitutional-powers-to-force-through-budgetHow democratic is that? It's little wonder the French take to the streets and strike. It's the only way they can get government to change policy by massive demonstrations. And what good has forcing them out done? We're about to have our fifth change of PM in six years. Each one (so far) worse than the last, and each one elected by a tiny caucus of geriatric Waitrose shoppers. None were chosen by the country Looking across the channel to Macron (who let us not forget for his first term upset the apple-cart and came from nowhere - something that could never happen here - Tory Tory Tory, Labour, Tory Tory - rinse/repeat) is an odd way to console yourself.
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 20, 2022 14:39:08 GMT
Bring Back Boris . Steer Clear of Kier You’ve just written tomorrow’s headline for the Mail.
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Post by gawa on Oct 20, 2022 14:40:34 GMT
White it would be economic suicide to elect Boris again. Sort of hope it happens for the lols and to bury this party once and for all.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 20, 2022 14:43:17 GMT
Are these fuckers real😡
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 20, 2022 14:43:26 GMT
I agree with you, but Last week I was talking to a business women who runs her own business and has sideline interest like renting out property she owns. She raised the subject of Truss's behaviour, and said " I know he's a lier but I miss Boris".My brother in law frequents pubs, which I don't, and tells me there is a lot of support for Johnson still. The "problem" with democracy is everyone gets just one vote, all opinions are equal, there is no acceptable alternative. He’s a criminal who committed offences whilst he was in power Those offences were breaking the lockdown rules he steadfastly defended and told the police to clamp down heavily on others committing those same offences He also lived in the house that had the most fixed penalties issued to it in the whole of the United Kingdom for breaking those rules Please please fucking please stop defending that twat I'm not defending him, read my post, I agreed with the original post. I was merely pointing out the Johnson stillchas a lot of supporters in the country.
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Post by yeokel on Oct 20, 2022 14:44:11 GMT
I appreciate our government is in a shambles, but the thought struck me this morning that if we have an incompetent, or telling lies, or corrupt PM we get rid of them and force them out of power. Twice this year and it has happened in the past, like Thatcher. There are many so called democracies that would have to go through a long impeachment process. This thought came to me this morning when reading the French news. Macron has just been voted into power for 5 years. He was given power although two thirds of the French people voted for someone else in the first round of the Presidential elections. He does not have a free hand because he is supposedly kept in check by the French Assembly, but www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/19/french-government-to-use-constitutional-powers-to-force-through-budgetHow democratic is that? It's little wonder the French take to the streets and strike. It's the only way they can get government to change policy by massive demonstrations. And what good has forcing them out done? We're about to have our fifth change of PM in six years. Each one (so far) worse than the last, and each one elected by a tiny caucus of geriatric Waitrose shoppers. None were chosen by the country Looking across the channel to Macron (who let us not forget for his first term upset the apple-cart and came from nowhere - something that could never happen here - Tory Tory Tory, Labour, Tory Tory - rinse/repeat) is an odd way to console yourself. Hey, leave us geriatric Waitrose shoppers out of this. We’re not all Tories you know. 😡
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 20, 2022 14:45:10 GMT
Step forward..... Hang on, I know him… It’s Joris Bohnson
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 20, 2022 14:46:08 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 14:47:42 GMT
And what good has forcing them out done? We're about to have our fifth change of PM in six years. Each one (so far) worse than the last, and each one elected by a tiny caucus of geriatric Waitrose shoppers. None were chosen by the country Looking across the channel to Macron (who let us not forget for his first term upset the apple-cart and came from nowhere - something that could never happen here - Tory Tory Tory, Labour, Tory Tory - rinse/repeat) is an odd way to console yourself. Hey, leave us geriatric Waitrose shoppers out of this. We’re not all Tories you know. 😡 You might not be a Tory. But you've got more money than sense if you shop at Waitrose!!!
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Post by gawa on Oct 20, 2022 14:49:14 GMT
LOL!
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Post by yeokel on Oct 20, 2022 14:51:55 GMT
Hey, leave us geriatric Waitrose shoppers out of this. We’re not all Tories you know. 😡 You might not be a Tory. But you've got more money than sense if you shop at Waitrose!!! That’s quite possible.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 20, 2022 14:58:11 GMT
I appreciate our government is in a shambles, but the thought struck me this morning that if we have an incompetent, or telling lies, or corrupt PM we get rid of them and force them out of power. Twice this year and it has happened in the past, like Thatcher. There are many so called democracies that would have to go through a long impeachment process. This thought came to me this morning when reading the French news. Macron has just been voted into power for 5 years. He was given power although two thirds of the French people voted for someone else in the first round of the Presidential elections. He does not have a free hand because he is supposedly kept in check by the French Assembly, but www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/19/french-government-to-use-constitutional-powers-to-force-through-budgetHow democratic is that? It's little wonder the French take to the streets and strike. It's the only way they can get government to change policy by massive demonstrations. And what good has forcing them out done? We're about to have our fifth change of PM in six years. Each one (so far) worse than the last, and each one elected by a tiny caucus of geriatric Waitrose shoppers. None were chosen by the country Looking across the channel to Macron (who let us not forget for his first term upset the apple-cart and came from nowhere - something that could never happen here - Tory Tory Tory, Labour, Tory Tory - rinse/repeat) is an odd way to console yourself. That's funny I made exactly the same point as you a few weeks ago, along the lines that you need to be careful what you wish for - changing things could make them worse. I was criticised for proposing no change, which I wasn't, I was merely pointing out things could get worse. As for coming from nowhere, thankfully Farage came from nowhere and got us out of the EU indirectly by forcing the issue in the Tory Party, which was against Brexit under Cameron. So the apple cart can be upset by an "outsider/new comer" not in the main parties. Farage struck a chord with enough of the population to upset the established parties.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 20, 2022 15:03:41 GMT
It’s a fact that things have steadily gone downhill in our society which is far more divided, living standards and reduction of our rights and freedoms since the brexit vote. What is materially better in society since the vote? But you continue deflecting. It can be hard to admit when you are wrong about something. Far more divided due to what? Brexit divided the country
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 20, 2022 15:04:14 GMT
Well said. This is the sort of guy we need in charge of the country. Someone who actually cares for the right reason. Who, Farage or Walker? Walker.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 20, 2022 15:05:52 GMT
Step forward..... Hang on, I know him… It’s Joris Bohnson I regularly wonder about what he's up to, I'd love to know.............
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Post by franklin on Oct 20, 2022 15:07:24 GMT
Boris for PM I can't wait for the meltdown 😆
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Post by franklin on Oct 20, 2022 15:10:12 GMT
He’s a criminal who committed offences whilst he was in power Those offences were breaking the lockdown rules he steadfastly defended and told the police to clamp down heavily on others committing those same offences He also lived in the house that had the most fixed penalties issued to it in the whole of the United Kingdom for breaking those rules Please please fucking please stop defending that twat I'm not defending him, read my post, I agreed with the original post. I was merely pointing out the Johnson stillchas a lot of supporters in the country. FPN are not a fine or conviction so he's not a criminal.
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Post by gawa on Oct 20, 2022 15:14:33 GMT
And what good has forcing them out done? We're about to have our fifth change of PM in six years. Each one (so far) worse than the last, and each one elected by a tiny caucus of geriatric Waitrose shoppers. None were chosen by the country Looking across the channel to Macron (who let us not forget for his first term upset the apple-cart and came from nowhere - something that could never happen here - Tory Tory Tory, Labour, Tory Tory - rinse/repeat) is an odd way to console yourself. That's funny I made exactly the same point as you a few weeks ago, along the lines that you need to be careful what you wish for - changing things could make them worse. I was criticised for proposing no change, which I wasn't, I was merely pointing out things could get worse. As for coming from nowhere, thankfully Farage came from nowhere and got us out of the EU indirectly by forcing the issue in the Tory Party, which was against Brexit under Cameron. So the apple cart can be upset by an "outsider/new comer" not in the main parties. Farage struck a chord with enough of the population to upset the established parties. Was Farage not a founding member of UKIP since 1993 and then obviously later became leader of it. 25 years of campaigning for the " UK Independence party" is hardly coming from nowhere. As for "careful what you wish for", very wise words. And that's why the red wall is being built back up brick by brick. Anyhow hopefully more tory's follow them suit and move across to Reform UK. We've gone too long with the right wing vote being centralised on one corrupt party. So hopefully other supporters will start voting Reform UK and split the vote; resigning both to the back benches where they can't cause the same level of chaos.
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 20, 2022 15:21:21 GMT
Rishi pretty much called what would happen, that’s probably helped rebuild his reputation. Sunak should obviously win - doubt he will.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Oct 20, 2022 15:21:43 GMT
What do Liz Truss and the Titanic have in common?
Both were beaten by an iceberg.
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Post by questionable on Oct 20, 2022 15:24:58 GMT
Hang on, I know him… It’s Joris Bohnson I regularly wonder about what he's up to, I'd love to know............. Love this video what a numpty
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Post by thevoid on Oct 20, 2022 15:25:11 GMT
Wonder if this was the plan all along, replace Bozza with Truss to make Bozza seem competent? 😉
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 20, 2022 15:25:14 GMT
The only name mentioned who seems a remotely competent individual would probably be Ben Wallace. At least he'd bring back some kind of professional behavior.
This rabble are a fucking disgrace. Boris should be chucked in the Thames not rewarded with the job of PM.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Oct 20, 2022 15:26:31 GMT
Regardless on the views of truss and I’m no fan Tories elect a leader she deserved the backing of her MPs. It’s pretty much a coup. Gutless cunts They need a prolonged period of reflection in opposition It kind of was but at the same time we can go back all the way to Cameron where he resigned when he should have. The problem is the rank lack of dignity in the last two PMs under the belief that they're fighters rather than idiots drenched in self interest. You can put this on the party but I'd look at the last two's behaviour and performance to see why we ended up here.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 20, 2022 15:26:35 GMT
Slightly off topic but Penny Mordaunt ain't too bad on the eye. I know a few of you fellas like Nadine but I'd take Penny over here any day of the week. Especially in her Navy Uniform Attachment Deleted
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Post by thevoid on Oct 20, 2022 15:29:28 GMT
Slightly off topic but Penny Mordaunt ain't too bad on the eye. I know a few of you fellas like Nadine but I'd take Penny over here any day of the week. Especially in her Navy Uniform View AttachmentMy kind of woman. Built for fun 😀
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 15:32:25 GMT
And what good has forcing them out done? We're about to have our fifth change of PM in six years. Each one (so far) worse than the last, and each one elected by a tiny caucus of geriatric Waitrose shoppers. None were chosen by the country Looking across the channel to Macron (who let us not forget for his first term upset the apple-cart and came from nowhere - something that could never happen here - Tory Tory Tory, Labour, Tory Tory - rinse/repeat) is an odd way to console yourself. That's funny I made exactly the same point as you a few weeks ago, along the lines that you need to be careful what you wish for - changing things could make them worse. I was criticised for proposing no change, which I wasn't, I was merely pointing out things could get worse. As for coming from nowhere, thankfully Farage came from nowhere and got us out of the EU indirectly by forcing the issue in the Tory Party, which was against Brexit under Cameron. So the apple cart can be upset by an "outsider/new comer" not in the main parties. Farage struck a chord with enough of the population to upset the established parties. Farage. For a good Christian you choose some odd bedfellows Mr Coke. Putin and Trump were/are also anti-EU, and were delighted with Brexit and hoped more would follow. You can see why. It makes Europe and it's countries weaker (however so far it's only us that's been daft enough) Still - if you want to use your spare time doing the bidding of psychopathic criminal billionaires I guess that's your business.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Oct 20, 2022 15:32:27 GMT
The only name mentioned who seems a remotely competent individual would probably be Ben Wallace. At least he'd bring back some kind of professional behavior. This rabble are a fucking disgrace. Boris should be chucked in the Thames not rewarded with the job of PM. I think it would be good if we end up being dragged into the war by having to put troops on the ground because he'll start the preparation for that but I'm hopeful that doesn't happen. Inflation is not under control and some of the drivers of this have not been addressed, Sunak would be the best person to focus on this.
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