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Post by andystokey on Oct 20, 2022 10:23:23 GMT
Nigel Adams Stuart Andrew Gareth Bacon Siobhan Baillie Greg Clark Geoffrey Cox Tracey Crouch David Davis Caroline Dinenage Nadine Dorries Iain Duncan Smith Phillip Dunne Mark Fletcher Vicky Ford Paul Holmes Alastair Jack Boris Johnson Gillian Keegan Kwasi Kwarteng Robert Largan Pauline Latham Chris Loder Mark Logan Theresa May Wendy Morton Priti Patel Mark Pawsey Angela Richardson Andrew Rosindell Bob Seeley Alok Sharma Chris Skidmore Henry Smith Mark Spencer Liz TrussBen Wallace John Whittingdale William Wragg Jeremy Wright All abstained tonight. WTAF!? www.spectator.co.uk/article/list-of-tory-fracking-rebelsNo 10 said the dozens of Tory MPs who did not vote faced "proportionate disciplinary action" One for @seymour Beaver video library Lizz Truss disciplining herself. |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 20, 2022 10:24:22 GMT
Mental health is something to be taken very seriously We suspect that by their actions several Tory MPs are suffering from some form of Psychosis But is it fair to appoint a man as Home Secretary with a known Multiple Personality Disorder This sure can't age well |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2022 10:25:13 GMT
I like many leave voters Voted to leave the eu not with some stitched up deal taking years But to leave with a complete clean break as close to the vote as possible I don’t know one leave voter and round my neck of the woods there not hard to find who expected things to be instantly better we all knew it would be harder at the start What we didn’t expect is that millions of remain voters would refuse to accept a democratic vote then do everything in there Power to subvert democracy And cause a three / four year delay Maybe if a full brexit was implemented on the 24th of June after the vote we may be now be starting to reap the benefits of freedom Even the opposition well the fence sitting charlatan leader has finally realised the errors of his ways and has now accepted brexit It’s time to move on except freedom and move forward to the sunlit uplands Of course you within your rights to wallow in self pity with the unscrupulous Lib Dems and stamp your feet throw toys out of the pram and refuse to accept democracy So to summarise - nothing has improved and that's all someone else's fault. Pretty much if after five years of brexit Jan 2020 ‘s piss poor implementation there doesn’t appear to be any benefits than I may be willing to concede it may have proved to have been a error |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 10:29:31 GMT
Nigel Adams Stuart Andrew Gareth Bacon Siobhan Baillie Greg Clark Geoffrey Cox Tracey Crouch David Davis Caroline Dinenage Nadine Dorries Iain Duncan Smith Phillip Dunne Mark Fletcher Vicky Ford Paul Holmes Alastair Jack Boris Johnson Gillian Keegan Kwasi Kwarteng Robert Largan Pauline Latham Chris Loder Mark Logan Theresa May Wendy Morton Priti Patel Mark Pawsey Angela Richardson Andrew Rosindell Bob Seeley Alok Sharma Chris Skidmore Henry Smith Mark Spencer Liz TrussBen Wallace John Whittingdale William Wragg Jeremy Wright All abstained tonight. WTAF!? www.spectator.co.uk/article/list-of-tory-fracking-rebelsNo 10 said the dozens of Tory MPs who did not vote faced "proportionate disciplinary action" One for @seymour Beaver video library Lizz Truss disciplining herself. The hapless cow would be the first self flagellator to miss her own arse. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 10:31:02 GMT
So to summarise - nothing has improved and that's all someone else's fault. Pretty much if after five years of brexit Jan 2020 ‘s piss poor implementation there doesn’t appear to be any benefits than I may be willing to concede it may have proved to have been a error I'll bookmark that😀 |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2022 10:35:37 GMT
Pretty much if after five years of brexit Jan 2020 ‘s piss poor implementation there doesn’t appear to be any benefits than I may be willing to concede it may have proved to have been a error I'll bookmark that😀 Your more than welcome to As I’m pretty confident that benefits will start coming through |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 20, 2022 10:43:08 GMT
Let what go? I am glad you are not in charge of our country. You’d make Truss look better than Winston Churchill as a leader. You voted for exactly what has happened with brexit. That’s the problem when you vote blind, as all leave voters did. You were told you were voting for other things (all lies). Remember what Farage said, “nobody is talking about leaving the single market”. Finally, answer the question. Name some things that have materially improved since the brexit vote in our society? I like many leave voters Voted to leave the eu not with some stitched up deal taking years But to leave with a complete clean break as close to the vote as possible I don’t know one leave voter and round my neck of the woods there not hard to find who expected things to be instantly better we all knew it would be harder at the start What we didn’t expect is that millions of remain voters would refuse to accept a democratic vote then do everything in there Power to subvert democracy And cause a three / four year delay Maybe if a full brexit was implemented on the 24th of June after the vote we may be now be starting to reap the benefits of freedom Even the opposition well the fence sitting charlatan leader has finally realised the errors of his ways and has now accepted brexit It’s time to move on except freedom and move forward to the sunlit uplands Of course you within your rights to wallow in self pity with the unscrupulous Lib Dems and stamp your feet throw toys out of the pram and refuse to accept democracy Refuse to accept democracy? How is that the same as saying that brexit has been a disaster? Or are you saying that once there is a vote on anything, you can never criticise the outcome. I.e. we should all shut up and accept Truss as our leader and not criticise her or what she does? So you still cannot name a benefit of brexit, over 6 years on! When will we see benefits? 2025? 2030? 2050? At what point do we say “perhaps the will of the people is not for what we have?”. Or in your mind, is real democracy never being able to change your mind and never having elections or re running any question or issue because X years ago, the people on a specific date said Y and so we can never test that question again!? |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Oct 20, 2022 10:45:30 GMT
I agree with both the above posts. One of the issues is in the communication age is we have become overloaded with information and communications. Consequently a lot of people "shut off" and live in a bubble. The media do not help. They just beat the drum on whatever issue they want to push. Or they just concentrate on one issue. Yesterday the BBC went on and on about inflation, particularly food, but no mention of the relevance of the war in Ukraine that is not just pushing up energy prices which affects the cost of everything but leading to increased food shortage around the world. We are paying for that war in inflation, but the Ukrainians are paying in blood, facing the prospect of a Ukrainian winter with no power stations working. We are now learning what our forefathers went through during world wars. We get more and more obsessed by ourselves, but pay little heed to what is happening "next door". France has half the inflation of the UK, lower than almost every country in Europe, but very low wage increases for years. Yesterday's French news: Shhhhh your not supposed to be posting this there in the eu every thing is supposed to be rosey and ok I don't think the example of France is showing what you'd like it to show. The people in the video are complaining about prices which are rising at 5.5% compared to our 10+% ALSO inflation has been decreasing for 2 months which is fairly impressive. Yes people are complaining even when their situation is significantly better than ours but it only highlights that our setup and decisions we have recently made are making it much, MUCH worse. Inflation stats taken from - www.rateinflation.com/inflation-rate/france-inflation-rate/ |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 10:55:18 GMT
Shhhhh your not supposed to be posting this there in the eu every thing is supposed to be rosey and ok I don't think the example of France is showing what you'd like it to show. The people in the video are complaining about prices which are rising at 5.5% compared to our 10+% ALSO inflation has been decreasing for 2 months which is fairly impressive. Yes people are complaining even when their situation is significantly better than ours but it only highlights that our setup and decisions we have recently made are making it much, MUCH worse. Inflation stats taken from - www.rateinflation.com/inflation-rate/france-inflation-rate/Nor does highlighting UK job vacancies as a virtue neccesarily support the case. As it continues it stifles productivity and slows growth yet for the taliban in the ERG is a price we must pay for Brexit purity (see Braverman's "resignation" letter). Ideology first, wellbeing of the nation second. But that's Brexit. |
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Post by knype on Oct 20, 2022 10:56:08 GMT
You really have to release your bitterness Before it totally consumes you Ever thought of seeking professional support I’m sure there are people out there who can help you accept a Democratic vote It’s a fact that things have steadily gone downhill in our society which is far more divided, living standards and reduction of our rights and freedoms since the brexit vote. What is materially better in society since the vote? But you continue deflecting. It can be hard to admit when you are wrong about something. Far more divided due to what? |
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2022 11:01:25 GMT
Chairman of 1922 committee (Sir Graham Brady in No 10 atm talking to (or at...) Truss
presume she's going today
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 20, 2022 11:01:37 GMT
Brady off to see Truss now apparently.
Will she last the day?
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Post by Gawa on Oct 20, 2022 11:08:12 GMT
This woman here does my fucking nut in. Does she have anything of use to say other than sucking Boris' cock over twitter every other day.
Boris was a fuckin shit pm and ousted out by his own party. Bringing him back is just another huge u turn and more of the same.
Tories Out.
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Post by knype on Oct 20, 2022 11:08:21 GMT
You would have thought that Labour would want Truss to stay in for the next 2 years to guarantee them a term in office?
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2022 11:08:30 GMT
Brady off to see Truss now apparently. Will she last the day? Probably not |
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 20, 2022 11:09:06 GMT
“Turn from sin, follow Jesus”
What a moby !!!
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2022 11:11:14 GMT
“Turn from sin, follow Jesus” What a moby !!! 😂 No more than the two dicks behind him |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 20, 2022 11:12:29 GMT
Apparently, "Wokerati" is some sort of martial art! Does it involve blowing the froth off soy lattes at each other No mate, I think you're confusing it with To Fu! |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 20, 2022 11:13:56 GMT
This woman here does my fucking nut in. Does she have anything of use to say other than sucking Boris' cock over twitter every other day. Boris was a fuckin shit pm and ousted out by his own party. Bringing him back is just another huge u turn and more of the same. Tories Out. And there most certainly cannot be a coronation of previously failed prime ministers either Nadine. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2022 11:17:43 GMT
Does it involve blowing the froth off soy lattes at each other No mate, I think you're confusing it with To Fu! Quite possibly I’ve never really been up to date with moving trends |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 20, 2022 11:23:33 GMT
From what I've read, she'll get £115k a year for the rest of her life for being PM for 5 weeks. Nevermind the immediate financial cost to the country, as a result of those five weeks. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 20, 2022 11:23:36 GMT
The coup taking place in parliament right now really is sickening. An election needs to happen immediately.
No one voted for Truss, no one voted for Hunt, no one in their right mind wants Shapps anywhere near the cabinet and no one voted for Rishi Sunak taking over.
Politicians have been arrested for far less than the shit house situation we are seeing unfold in British parliament.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Oct 20, 2022 11:27:11 GMT
Gone by the end of the day apparently.
What an absolute shit show.
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Post by Gawa on Oct 20, 2022 11:34:05 GMT
Let what go? I am glad you are not in charge of our country. You’d make Truss look better than Winston Churchill as a leader. You voted for exactly what has happened with brexit. That’s the problem when you vote blind, as all leave voters did. You were told you were voting for other things (all lies). Remember what Farage said, “nobody is talking about leaving the single market”. Finally, answer the question. Name some things that have materially improved since the brexit vote in our society? I just gave you one on the Brexit thread. The lowest unemployment in this country since 1974. Employers are paying low paid more and more to keep them. www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/tesco-asda-aldi-wages-morrisons-7202764There has never been a better time for young people coming out of education to get a job. Imigration is at record level, including 300,000 work visas, but only to fill jobs that need filling because not enough UK residents want them. We've stopped uncontrolled immigration. Unfortunately we have not stopped illegal immigration and thousands of people risk their lives to get out of the EU and cross the Channel to live in the UK. Can you elaborate on the employment statistics. So for example does that include "zero hours contract" workers, where they may be employed but hypothetically may not be working at all? What about part time workers? And also a personal question towards you. Is employment rate always indictive of a success? Especially when record numbers of those employed are striking due to poor conditions and pay? Could it not be argued in the past that we had alot more single income families and mothers staying at home as people could live comfortably on one wage. A postman in the 70s could raise a family and get a mortgage on a single income with a stay at home mother. Now if both parents were postmen/women the same family couldn't even afford a mortgage and would struggle to heat their homes. So in my opinion "employment rate" doesn't really have any correlation to living standards. And secondly I'd love to know how many of those employed are on zero hours contracts as there's a huge difference between an employed person working 36 hours a week and people working 0-8 hours a week. Employers are paying low paid more? What do you mean by this? Well of course you will earn more as inflation increases but surely then you need to compare the wage to the cost of living. As earning £1000 per hour doesn't mean alot when a mars bar costs £10k. So a minimum wage in 2022 which is 10x that of the one in 1922 doesn't mean much if inflation has went up 100x in that period. And you and I both know wages haven't increased with inflation and someones take home pay is worth alot less now than it was in 1995. Which again then feeds into your earlier comment about "more people employed". Again I believe this is more due to people not being able to afford to have single income families anymore as well as record amounts of people working past retirement age for similar reasons. Hardly a "positive" sign. But torie's gonna tory and polish the turds. Fuck off has there never been a better time for young people to come out of education and get a job? And do what? Pay 10% of their wage to student loan. Pay 30% to a landlord. Pay 10% on gas/electric. Pay 10% on food. Pay 5% on pension. Pay 20% on tax.... And what maybe get to go out for a meal at the end of the month if they're lucky. We discussed immigration levels literally a week ago. Immigration is at record levels and I provided you the evidence of this. Was brexit not to try and reduce immigration? And also most of the immigratants aren't here on work visas. Most of them are here using up our university places and our public services and housing while not contributing to the economy. The countries up shit creek. I hope you don't have kids or grandkids because the boomer generation have destroyed this country for many future generations. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 20, 2022 11:34:29 GMT
Twelve years of Tory rule has certainly sorted out the Country.
Since Johnson we've been taken over by a populist nationalist government masquerading as the Tory Party.
They are a joke and their in real danger of sinking the UK and taking Ireland with them.
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Post by Gawa on Oct 20, 2022 11:39:50 GMT
Estonia has a similar employment rate to UK but half the GDP.
So I don't really follow the whole "employment rate is high so country is booming" shit. If anything having such a high employment rate while more people than ever are in poverty is just another huge signal of the failures of this Tory government and brexit.
Yous really fucked it up boomers. Those who lived through the war would be turning in their graves if they seen the destruction that their kids caused on this country and future generations, all for personal greed.
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 20, 2022 11:42:21 GMT
Just catching up on todays papers.  |
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Post by knype on Oct 20, 2022 11:44:05 GMT
Estonia has a similar employment rate to UK but half the GDP. So I don't really follow the whole "employment rate is high so country is booming" shit. If anything having such a high employment rate while more people than ever are in poverty is just another huge signal of the failures of this Tory government and brexit. Yous really fucked it up boomers. Those who lived through the war would be turning in their graves if they seen the destruction that their kids caused on this country and future generations, all for personal greed. The kids who have been indoctrinated throughout University education you mean? The majority of which are lefties? |
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Post by andystokey on Oct 20, 2022 11:45:14 GMT
The coup taking place in parliament right now really is sickening. An election needs to happen immediately. No one voted for Truss, no one voted for Hunt, no one in their right mind wants Shapps anywhere near the cabinet and no one voted for Rishi Sunak taking over. Politicians have been arrested for far less than the shit house situation we are seeing unfold in British parliament. It comes to something when we are violently agreeing. It really must be a shit show, maybe she has accidentally united us all. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2022 11:50:43 GMT
Estonia has a similar employment rate to UK but half the GDP. So I don't really follow the whole "employment rate is high so country is booming" shit. If anything having such a high employment rate while more people than ever are in poverty is just another huge signal of the failures of this Tory government and brexit. Yous really fucked it up boomers. Those who lived through the war would be turning in their graves if they seen the destruction that their kids caused on this country and future generations, all for personal greed. The kids who have been indoctrinated throughout University education you mean? The majority of which are lefties? Are they? What a strange comment |
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