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Post by theonlooker on May 22, 2022 9:33:21 GMT
I think we all know who that one is. Christ alive.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 22, 2022 9:33:21 GMT
Says the guy who didn’t get into LSE They are also a playground for many key workers, enlightenment and the vast majority of major human achievements. Restricting the above only to the rich is going backwards 100 years. People go to university to get better qualifications that allow them to earn highly paid jobs. Why should someone earning fuck all pay someone to earn loads more than them? That’s just weird. Because it benefits society as a whole and might directly benefit them, such as when a highly paid surgeon cures them or their taxes (assuming they pay them) help to provide infrastructure, benefits or affordable housing for the lower incomes...
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Post by OldStokie on May 22, 2022 9:36:53 GMT
Uni tuition fees are just a pretence for raising taxes but they're designed much like VAT is and affect the poorest in society most. They're actually one of the most obvious and vicious attacks against the poorest in society. But they're self defeating in this world where we need the brightest and best from all walks of life to make this country competitive in a world where education is a necessity for this technilogical world we live in. Blair wants shooting for introducing them originally and the coalition should go to jail for raising them to unmanageable levels for many working classes. Our whole country is poorer because of their introduction. And what makes me really angry is that they were introduced by people who never paid a penny for their education unless their parents were wealthy enough to send their kids to private schools. It's a national scandal whichever way you look at it.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 22, 2022 9:36:55 GMT
They cannot even be honest about who called a meeting. Good job they didn't ask Johnson or it would be : There was no meeting......if there was a meeting all rules were followed but I wasn't there.........I didn't realise it was a meeting......I was ambushed by a Civil Servant.
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 9:42:32 GMT
People go to university to get better qualifications that allow them to earn highly paid jobs. Why should someone earning fuck all pay someone to earn loads more than them? That’s just weird. That would be weird. But nobody is saying the poor should pay money to the rich. I’m saying tuition fee interest rates should be pegged to the BoE base rate. Tuition fees should be charged to those who can afford them (or whose rich parents can afford them) and they should be means tested on a sliding scale so those from the least affluent backgrounds pay the least, and those from the richest backgrounds pay the most. That way the brightest go to university and not just the rich. The current system perpetuates the ever increasing divide between the rich and the poor in this country, as the rich go to university and get the better qualifications and contacts and the better paid jobs, and a more intelligent and more talented poorer person cannot afford to do the same. Edit: and if you are going to come back saying “why should poor people who did not go to uni pay tax to subsidise others going to university” my response is: tax the rich a bit more to cover the subsidy. Add 5% to capital gains tax. That should cover it. Or tax wealth a small percentage and that will cover it. Second edit: i’d prefer tax payers money to be spent on getting poor but bright people through university than on this: www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/21/treasury-criticised-for-agreeing-500k-spend-on-focus-groups-and-pollsLet’s play a word association game. Your task is to attach the following words describing what proportion went to university against the earning groups described below; a handful, some, most, near enough all of them. Ok those salary bands… Less than £30k Between £30k and £60k Between £60k and £100k Above £100k Then ask yourself again who should be paying who for the privilege of earning more money.
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Post by OldStokie on May 22, 2022 10:02:43 GMT
That would be weird. But nobody is saying the poor should pay money to the rich. I’m saying tuition fee interest rates should be pegged to the BoE base rate. Tuition fees should be charged to those who can afford them (or whose rich parents can afford them) and they should be means tested on a sliding scale so those from the least affluent backgrounds pay the least, and those from the richest backgrounds pay the most. That way the brightest go to university and not just the rich. The current system perpetuates the ever increasing divide between the rich and the poor in this country, as the rich go to university and get the better qualifications and contacts and the better paid jobs, and a more intelligent and more talented poorer person cannot afford to do the same. Edit: and if you are going to come back saying “why should poor people who did not go to uni pay tax to subsidise others going to university” my response is: tax the rich a bit more to cover the subsidy. Add 5% to capital gains tax. That should cover it. Or tax wealth a small percentage and that will cover it. Second edit: i’d prefer tax payers money to be spent on getting poor but bright people through university than on this: www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/21/treasury-criticised-for-agreeing-500k-spend-on-focus-groups-and-pollsLet’s play a word association game. Your task is to attach the following words describing what proportion went to university against the earning groups described below; a handful, some, most, near enough all of them. Ok those salary bands… Less than £30k Between £30k and £60k Between £60k and £100k Above £100k Then ask yourself again who should be paying who for the privilege of earning more money. The average starting salary for a graduate in the UK for 2022 is £24,291. That's after they've paid over £27,000 university fees for their 3 years education. Here's a good link to salaries for graduates. Uni graduate salaries.OS.
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Post by prettything on May 22, 2022 10:03:33 GMT
That would be weird. But nobody is saying the poor should pay money to the rich. I’m saying tuition fee interest rates should be pegged to the BoE base rate. Tuition fees should be charged to those who can afford them (or whose rich parents can afford them) and they should be means tested on a sliding scale so those from the least affluent backgrounds pay the least, and those from the richest backgrounds pay the most. That way the brightest go to university and not just the rich. The current system perpetuates the ever increasing divide between the rich and the poor in this country, as the rich go to university and get the better qualifications and contacts and the better paid jobs, and a more intelligent and more talented poorer person cannot afford to do the same. Edit: and if you are going to come back saying “why should poor people who did not go to uni pay tax to subsidise others going to university” my response is: tax the rich a bit more to cover the subsidy. Add 5% to capital gains tax. That should cover it. Or tax wealth a small percentage and that will cover it. Second edit: i’d prefer tax payers money to be spent on getting poor but bright people through university than on this: www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/21/treasury-criticised-for-agreeing-500k-spend-on-focus-groups-and-pollsLet’s play a word association game. Your task is to attach the following words describing what proportion went to university against the earning groups described below; a handful, some, most, near enough all of them. Ok those salary bands… Less than £30k Between £30k and £60k Between £60k and £100k Above £100k Then ask yourself again who should be paying who for the privilege of earning more money. Wow, that’s a binary way of looking at things, but let’s add something to the mix. What percentage of those on above 100k come from families that earn over 100k? A huge majority. University should be free to the poorest. Somehow, the poorest have been turned against the poorest in this country these last 10 years or so. Absolutely conned.
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 10:32:21 GMT
Let’s play a word association game. Your task is to attach the following words describing what proportion went to university against the earning groups described below; a handful, some, most, near enough all of them. Ok those salary bands… Less than £30k Between £30k and £60k Between £60k and £100k Above £100k Then ask yourself again who should be paying who for the privilege of earning more money. The average starting salary for a graduate in the UK for 2022 is £24,291. That's after they've paid over £27,000 university fees for their 3 years education. Here's a good link to salaries for graduates. Uni graduate salaries.OS. There’s an excellent recent article on this subject from Money Saving Expert, Student loans The truth about uni fees, loans & grants, that is worth a read. Apart from explaining the financial liabilities students face, which prospective university students should read so they don’t get put off by the scare mongering nonsense spread about on this topic, it makes the point I’ve been making… The system is designed so that, in the main, those who gain the most financially out of university contribute the most.Which seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 10:39:14 GMT
Let’s play a word association game. Your task is to attach the following words describing what proportion went to university against the earning groups described below; a handful, some, most, near enough all of them. Ok those salary bands… Less than £30k Between £30k and £60k Between £60k and £100k Above £100k Then ask yourself again who should be paying who for the privilege of earning more money. Wow, that’s a binary way of looking at things, but let’s add something to the mix. What percentage of those on above 100k come from families that earn over 100k? A huge majority. University should be free to the poorest. Somehow how the poorest have been turned against the poorest in this country these last 10 years or so. Absolutely conned. Binary questions are good tools to get at the essence of an argument. So, let’s do it again on the separate but related point of increasing the number of people from less privileged backgrounds into university education noting that you are looking at it through the wrong end of a telescope. Another binary question for you may help. You have £1billion to invest as a single sum. Do you invest it in pre-school and primary school education or into free tuition fees?
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Post by prettything on May 22, 2022 11:03:33 GMT
Wow, that’s a binary way of looking at things, but let’s add something to the mix. What percentage of those on above 100k come from families that earn over 100k? A huge majority. University should be free to the poorest. Somehow how the poorest have been turned against the poorest in this country these last 10 years or so. Absolutely conned. Binary questions are good tools to get at the essence of an argument. So, let’s do it again on the separate but related point of increasing the number of people from less privileged backgrounds into university education noting that you are looking at it through the wrong end of a telescope. Another binary question for you may help. You have £1billion to invest as a single sum. Do you invest it in pre-school and primary school education or into free tuition fees? I would double the investment on all three. Close the tax loop holes for the rich and use the remaining money to help the poor out of fuel poverty. I’m not very good with binary I’m afraid .
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Post by followyoudown on May 22, 2022 11:41:41 GMT
The average starting salary for a graduate in the UK for 2022 is £24,291. That's after they've paid over £27,000 university fees for their 3 years education. Here's a good link to salaries for graduates. Uni graduate salaries.OS. There’s an excellent recent article on this subject from Money Saving Expert, Student loans The truth about uni fees, loans & grants, that is worth a read. Apart from explaining the financial liabilities students face, which prospective university students should read so they don’t get put off by the scare mongering nonsense spread about on this topic, it makes the point I’ve been making… The system is designed so that, in the main, those who gain the most financially out of university contribute the most.Which seems perfectly reasonable to me. It is an excellent article we had a similar discussion weeks ago oggy obviously didnt read the article then either but basically as the article says the interest rate and even the debt are largely irrelevant its the salary you earn that determines how much and when you pay it back. In an ideal world no one would pay but this actually a reasonable fair way of people contributing.
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 11:56:33 GMT
There’s an excellent recent article on this subject from Money Saving Expert, Student loans The truth about uni fees, loans & grants, that is worth a read. Apart from explaining the financial liabilities students face, which prospective university students should read so they don’t get put off by the scare mongering nonsense spread about on this topic, it makes the point I’ve been making… The system is designed so that, in the main, those who gain the most financially out of university contribute the most.Which seems perfectly reasonable to me. It is an excellent article we had a similar discussion weeks ago oggy obviously didnt read the article then either but basically as the article says the interest rate and even the debt are largely irrelevant its the salary you earn that determines how much and when you pay it back. In an ideal world no one would pay but this actually a reasonable fair way of people contributing. I don’t agree that in an ideal world no one would pay. That’s how things were back in the day and there were loads of freeloaders living a life of luxury basically having a massively extended vacation courtesy of the tax payer. Why work when someone pays you to get stoned and pissed. Particularly stoned. You only really learn the value of something when you stump up for it. In an ideal world, anyone with both the inclination and capability should be able to go to university. The biggest determinant in that is your circumstances at birth. If you are born into an affluent family, your chances are far higher than being born into a less affluent one. The biggest fix for that is in pre-school and primary school education. Miss out there and you’re pretty much fucked. Hence my earlier “binary” question. Funding in that area should be prioritised over tuition fees which can be comfortably handled by post graduates when they start raking it in with their highly paid jobs.
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Post by essexstokey on May 22, 2022 13:39:47 GMT
Students who took out a student loan after 2012 will be paying either 9% interest on that loan if they earn under £49,130, and 12% interest if they earn over that figure!! With tuition fees increases (another Tory policy), most students have around £50k of debt when they finish university, and most will be paying it back their whole life with those interest rates. Meanwhile, almost every government minister would have had tuition fees paid for by the government at the time. Despite most of them being millionaires. Absolute disgrace. I honestly think that its time to RIP up the tuition fees and student's loan system and to pay for it bu once a graduate hits certain levels of pay they pay different higher levels of ni make education free and you will see the country move forward economically and productively Its proven loans don't work and cost to administer so go back to a grant system
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Post by oggyoggy on May 22, 2022 15:17:07 GMT
That would be weird. But nobody is saying the poor should pay money to the rich. I’m saying tuition fee interest rates should be pegged to the BoE base rate. Tuition fees should be charged to those who can afford them (or whose rich parents can afford them) and they should be means tested on a sliding scale so those from the least affluent backgrounds pay the least, and those from the richest backgrounds pay the most. That way the brightest go to university and not just the rich. The current system perpetuates the ever increasing divide between the rich and the poor in this country, as the rich go to university and get the better qualifications and contacts and the better paid jobs, and a more intelligent and more talented poorer person cannot afford to do the same. Edit: and if you are going to come back saying “why should poor people who did not go to uni pay tax to subsidise others going to university” my response is: tax the rich a bit more to cover the subsidy. Add 5% to capital gains tax. That should cover it. Or tax wealth a small percentage and that will cover it. Second edit: i’d prefer tax payers money to be spent on getting poor but bright people through university than on this: www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/21/treasury-criticised-for-agreeing-500k-spend-on-focus-groups-and-pollsLet’s play a word association game. Your task is to attach the following words describing what proportion went to university against the earning groups described below; a handful, some, most, near enough all of them. Ok those salary bands… Less than £30k Between £30k and £60k Between £60k and £100k Above £100k Then ask yourself again who should be paying who for the privilege of earning more money. The higher the income, the more likely they went to uni. My view is that those with high capital show pay more tax in order to fund bright poor people’s tuition fees, as I set out above. High income doesn’t mean well off necessarily. I earn 6 figures but cannot afford a house big enough for my family where I live. Capital wealth is what should be taxed more, and also unearned income should be taxed as much as earned income (probably more actually).
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Post by oggyoggy on May 22, 2022 15:23:09 GMT
There’s an excellent recent article on this subject from Money Saving Expert, Student loans The truth about uni fees, loans & grants, that is worth a read. Apart from explaining the financial liabilities students face, which prospective university students should read so they don’t get put off by the scare mongering nonsense spread about on this topic, it makes the point I’ve been making… The system is designed so that, in the main, those who gain the most financially out of university contribute the most.Which seems perfectly reasonable to me. It is an excellent article we had a similar discussion weeks ago oggy obviously didnt read the article then either but basically as the article says the interest rate and even the debt are largely irrelevant its the salary you earn that determines how much and when you pay it back. In an ideal world no one would pay but this actually a reasonable fair way of people contributing. That’s rubbish and demonstrates you don’t understand the issue. Debt is debt. Most graduates will never pay back their student debt entirely because of the ridiculously high interest rates. If you have a £50k debt, 12% is £3k over just 6 months. So expensive regardless of income. So those graduates paying it back will need to do so from net income every month of their lives with these interest rates. A good example is me. I paid off my student debt a couple of years ago. It gets paid off from your net income. So after I stopped having to pay it back, it was the equivalent of a £10k gross payrise per annum for me. Those graduates with rich parents who paid their student debts who then earned the same as me would have effectively earned £10k more than me. They are the ones who also get given £100k by their parents as a deposit for a house. Whereas I still can’t afford to buy a house where I live despite earning 6 figures. All adds up as to why the tuition fee system keeps the rich rich and the poor poor.
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 15:52:59 GMT
It is an excellent article we had a similar discussion weeks ago oggy obviously didnt read the article then either but basically as the article says the interest rate and even the debt are largely irrelevant its the salary you earn that determines how much and when you pay it back. In an ideal world no one would pay but this actually a reasonable fair way of people contributing. That’s rubbish and demonstrates you don’t understand the issue. Debt is debt. Most graduates will never pay back their student debt entirely because of the ridiculously high interest rates. If you have a £50k debt, 12% is £3k over just 6 months. So expensive regardless of income. So those graduates paying it back will need to do so from net income every month of their lives with these interest rates. A good example is me. I paid off my student debt a couple of years ago. It gets paid off from your net income. So after I stopped having to pay it back, it was the equivalent of a £10k gross payrise per annum for me. Those graduates with rich parents who paid their student debts who then earned the same as me would have effectively earned £10k more than me. They are the ones who also get given £100k by their parents as a deposit for a house. Whereas I still can’t afford to buy a house where I live despite earning 6 figures. All adds up as to why the tuition fee system keeps the rich rich and the poor poor. You said you earn a six figure salary. Pal… you are already one of the biggest earners in the country. In the top 1%. Just two years after paying off your loan. That’s what you gain from having a university education. But you want someone earning a small fraction of that to pay for you to earn £100,000 plus. Fucking hell. That’s not just weird it’s morally bankrupt.
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Post by followyoudown on May 22, 2022 17:58:02 GMT
It is an excellent article we had a similar discussion weeks ago oggy obviously didnt read the article then either but basically as the article says the interest rate and even the debt are largely irrelevant its the salary you earn that determines how much and when you pay it back. In an ideal world no one would pay but this actually a reasonable fair way of people contributing. That’s rubbish and demonstrates you don’t understand the issue. Debt is debt. Most graduates will never pay back their student debt entirely because of the ridiculously high interest rates. If you have a £50k debt, 12% is £3k over just 6 months. So expensive regardless of income. So those graduates paying it back will need to do so from net income every month of their lives with these interest rates. A good example is me. I paid off my student debt a couple of years ago. It gets paid off from your net income. So after I stopped having to pay it back, it was the equivalent of a £10k gross payrise per annum for me. Those graduates with rich parents who paid their student debts who then earned the same as me would have effectively earned £10k more than me. They are the ones who also get given £100k by their parents as a deposit for a house. Whereas I still can’t afford to buy a house where I live despite earning All adds up as to why the tuition fee system keeps the rich rich and the poor poor. As I said the debt is irrelevant you pay 9% of your salary over £27k (or something like that) doesn't matter if you owe £50k or £5m. After 30 years the debt is written off. And honestly I am struggling to follow your logic on the repayments, you weren't taxed when you received the money so you obviously dont get a tax deduction on repayment so yes it is a deduction from your net salary but equating it to a 10% rise is a little silly as you ignoring the 40%+ tax and NI you have already been deducted from your gross salary. No idea where you live but I managed to buy a house as the credit crunch started off despite not being on 6 figures at the time and just being a contractor.
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Post by essexstokey on May 22, 2022 19:10:08 GMT
'It's crazy out there': Closure of youth clubs across UK 'pushing children to violence' link
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 19:16:54 GMT
'It's crazy out there': Closure of youth clubs across UK 'pushing children to violence' linkAgree - very concerning. But, isn’t this in the domain of local authorities?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 22, 2022 19:31:42 GMT
That’s rubbish and demonstrates you don’t understand the issue. Debt is debt. Most graduates will never pay back their student debt entirely because of the ridiculously high interest rates. If you have a £50k debt, 12% is £3k over just 6 months. So expensive regardless of income. So those graduates paying it back will need to do so from net income every month of their lives with these interest rates. A good example is me. I paid off my student debt a couple of years ago. It gets paid off from your net income. So after I stopped having to pay it back, it was the equivalent of a £10k gross payrise per annum for me. Those graduates with rich parents who paid their student debts who then earned the same as me would have effectively earned £10k more than me. They are the ones who also get given £100k by their parents as a deposit for a house. Whereas I still can’t afford to buy a house where I live despite earning 6 figures. All adds up as to why the tuition fee system keeps the rich rich and the poor poor. You said you earn a six figure salary. Pal… you are already one of the biggest earners in the country. In the top 1%. Just two years after paying off your loan. That’s what you gain from having a university education. But you want someone earning a small fraction of that to pay for you to earn £100,000 plus. Fucking hell. That’s not just weird it’s morally bankrupt. I don’t want someone earning a small fraction to pay for my student loan. I have never said that.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 22, 2022 19:33:53 GMT
That’s rubbish and demonstrates you don’t understand the issue. Debt is debt. Most graduates will never pay back their student debt entirely because of the ridiculously high interest rates. If you have a £50k debt, 12% is £3k over just 6 months. So expensive regardless of income. So those graduates paying it back will need to do so from net income every month of their lives with these interest rates. A good example is me. I paid off my student debt a couple of years ago. It gets paid off from your net income. So after I stopped having to pay it back, it was the equivalent of a £10k gross payrise per annum for me. Those graduates with rich parents who paid their student debts who then earned the same as me would have effectively earned £10k more than me. They are the ones who also get given £100k by their parents as a deposit for a house. Whereas I still can’t afford to buy a house where I live despite earning All adds up as to why the tuition fee system keeps the rich rich and the poor poor. As I said the debt is irrelevant you pay 9% of your salary over £27k (or something like that) doesn't matter if you owe £50k or £5m. After 30 years the debt is written off. And honestly I am struggling to follow your logic on the repayments, you weren't taxed when you received the money so you obviously dont get a tax deduction on repayment so yes it is a deduction from your net salary but equating it to a 10% rise is a little silly as you ignoring the 40%+ tax and NI you have already been deducted from your gross salary. No idea where you live but I managed to buy a house as the credit crunch started off despite not being on 6 figures at the time and just being a contractor. So paying £400 a month of net income on debt for 30 years is fine!? You are obviously very wealthy if you think that. I said £10k pay rise, not 10%. It was around 20% pay rise after it was paid off.
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2022 20:04:11 GMT
You said you earn a six figure salary. Pal… you are already one of the biggest earners in the country. In the top 1%. Just two years after paying off your loan. That’s what you gain from having a university education. But you want someone earning a small fraction of that to pay for you to earn £100,000 plus. Fucking hell. That’s not just weird it’s morally bankrupt. I don’t want someone earning a small fraction to pay for my student loan. I have never said that. Well who do you think pays for it if it isn’t the tax payer? And tax payers salaries kicks in at £12.5k or thereabouts. A small fraction of £100k.
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Post by essexstokey on May 22, 2022 21:06:45 GMT
'It's crazy out there': Closure of youth clubs across UK 'pushing children to violence' linkAgree - very concerning. But, isn’t this in the domain of local authorities? With massive cuts to council funding 10% and huge cuts forced by this imposed cut by central government its surly the government that has caused this
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Post by followyoudown on May 22, 2022 21:30:19 GMT
As I said the debt is irrelevant you pay 9% of your salary over £27k (or something like that) doesn't matter if you owe £50k or £5m. After 30 years the debt is written off. And honestly I am struggling to follow your logic on the repayments, you weren't taxed when you received the money so you obviously dont get a tax deduction on repayment so yes it is a deduction from your net salary but equating it to a 10% rise is a little silly as you ignoring the 40%+ tax and NI you have already been deducted from your gross salary. No idea where you live but I managed to buy a house as the credit crunch started off despite not being on 6 figures at the time and just being a contractor. So paying £400 a month of net income on debt for 30 years is fine!? You are obviously very wealthy if you think that. I said £10k pay rise, not 10%. It was around 20% pay rise after it was paid off. Its very unlikely anyone pays £400 a month for 30 years as at some point the repayments become more than interest accruing so the repayments start to fall, to be paying £400 a month at any point you'd need to be earning £80k a year so yeah I'd say thats fine.
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Post by followyoudown on May 22, 2022 21:34:22 GMT
Agree - very concerning. But, isn’t this in the domain of local authorities? With massive cuts to council funding 10% and huge cuts forced by this imposed cut by central government its surly the government that has caused this Croydon council scrapped meals on wheels to save £24k, croydon council paid £600k in leaving package to the chief executive who left them nearly bankrupt with some very questionable deals. Croydon council is know no overall control and voted in a tory mayor.
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Post by essexstokey on May 22, 2022 23:06:57 GMT
With massive cuts to council funding 10% and huge cuts forced by this imposed cut by central government its surly the government that has caused this Croydon council scrapped meals on wheels to save £24k, croydon council paid £600k in leaving package to the chief executive who left them nearly bankrupt with some very questionable deals. Croydon council is know no overall control and voted in a tory mayor. That is 1 council across London torys lost seats and councils by the bucket load including havering now noc this is a safe Tory area which has been devastated by central government cuts slashing budgets staff and service No wonder labour gained 4 Its probably going to be rate payers labour council But maybe also Westminster byelection if you believe the net
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Post by partickpotter on May 23, 2022 3:23:11 GMT
With massive cuts to council funding 10% and huge cuts forced by this imposed cut by central government its surly the government that has caused this Croydon council scrapped meals on wheels to save £24k, croydon council paid £600k in leaving package to the chief executive who left them nearly bankrupt with some very questionable deals. Croydon council is know no overall control and voted in a tory mayor. And there’s a dodgy £5m deal on housing kicking about too. Not to mention a £73m black hole in their accounts from February this year. But, in Essex’s simple world (which in fairness is one he shares with Nicola Sturgeon) everything bad is due to Boris Johnson in #10.
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Post by essexstokey on May 23, 2022 5:27:17 GMT
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Post by westlandstokie on May 23, 2022 6:17:09 GMT
What a sack of shit that bloke is…no wonder this country is going down the shitter…we’ve got no hope.RIP UK.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 23, 2022 6:30:21 GMT
I don’t want someone earning a small fraction to pay for my student loan. I have never said that. Well who do you think pays for it if it isn’t the tax payer? And tax payers salaries kicks in at £12.5k or thereabouts. A small fraction of £100k. Like I said, taxing unearned income the same as earned income (so dividends and property income) and increasing cgt rates and shutting cgt loopholes. That won’t affect the poor very much at all.
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