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Post by oggyoggy on May 17, 2022 19:56:33 GMT
Tories vote down windfall tax that could save you £600 linkInexcusable. Absolutely no justification for this (obviously FYD will offer justification, but he would probably argue that the sex offenders in the tory party shouldn’t have to stand down)
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 17, 2022 19:58:54 GMT
Tories vote down windfall tax that could save you £600 linkInexcusable. Absolutely no justification for this (obviously FYD will offer justification, but he would probably argue that the sex offenders in the tory party shouldn’t have to stand down) He defended Owen Paterson over his "egregious" corruption allegations and Johnson and Sunak after they were convicted of breaking their own Covid rules, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 17, 2022 20:56:13 GMT
Inexcusable. Absolutely no justification for this (obviously FYD will offer justification, but he would probably argue that the sex offenders in the tory party shouldn’t have to stand down) He defended Owen Paterson over his "egregious" corruption allegations and Johnson and Sunak after they were convicted of breaking their own Covid rules, so I wouldn't be surprised. You have to put this latest allegation of sex offences into perspective. Keir Starmer once looked at a woman, and Jeremy Corbyn did nothing to help the victims of Jack The Ripper despite proclaiming to be all for equality - so really they are all as bad as each other.
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Post by Jimm on May 17, 2022 21:01:57 GMT
All puppets... Roll on the great reset 2030. "You will own nothing and be happy."
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 17, 2022 21:03:45 GMT
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Post by wannabee on May 17, 2022 21:45:39 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on May 17, 2022 23:01:44 GMT
Unfortunately the mp for romford Private eye labels him Andrew rossendale age 13 and 3/4
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Post by wannabee on May 17, 2022 23:26:20 GMT
Unfortunately the mp for romford Private eye labels him Andrew rossendale age 13 and 3/4 I did wonder when posting if you had the misfortune to be "Represented " by this Piece of Crap I can only sympathise with you
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Post by generationex on May 17, 2022 23:38:01 GMT
Oooh… which one of those dirty Tories is getting outed next… it’s like the good ol’ days of the early 90’s… after 10 years in power you never know which Conservative MP is going to be found dead with an orange up their arse… or going to jail… or changing sex … it’s like a Boris wet dream of total UK anarchy … they just bloody love it dun’t they?!
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Post by wannabee on May 18, 2022 1:06:04 GMT
Just when you think there must be an end to the Bullshit excuses that The Conservative Government could conjure up, Oh no there is even more RIshi "Mr Silicon Valley" Sunak says he was unable to increase Benefits above 3.1% because THE COMPUTER SAID NO www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-13/sunak-blames-it-systems-for-decision-not-to-raise-uk-benefitsHe says the DWP Computer System didn't allow him to increase Benefits above this level. This from a Man who before entering Politics built his career in Silicon Valley and whose Father-in-law is Founder and Chairman Emeritus of one of the biggest IT Consultantcy Firms in the World Perhaps his wife wouldn't have earned enough Wedge for her to bother sheltering it offshore
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Post by partickpotter on May 18, 2022 5:30:12 GMT
Just when you think there must be an end to the Bullshit excuses that The Conservative Government could conjure up, Oh no there is even more RIshi "Mr Silicon Valley" Sunak says he was unable to increase Benefits above 3.1% because THE COMPUTER SAID NO www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-13/sunak-blames-it-systems-for-decision-not-to-raise-uk-benefitsHe says the DWP Computer System didn't allow him to increase Benefits above this level. This from a Man who before entering Politics built his career in Silicon Valley and whose Father-in-law is Founder and Chairman Emeritus of one of the biggest IT Consultantcy Firms in the World Perhaps his wife wouldn't have earned enough Wedge for her to bother sheltering it offshore There’s no doubt this Tory Government has shown itself to be clueless in its response to the inflation challenge facing the UK just now. It’s reflective of a general vacuousness on actual policy. Johnson, perhaps taking inspiration from Tony Blair, seems to think up beat sound bites are sufficient to run a government. He is deluded. What this government needs to do now is introduce a series of measures to support people. Not a continuous defence of inaction.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 18, 2022 6:41:12 GMT
Depends if and when we see a transformation to cleaner technology, almost inevitable as fossil fuels decline. Mind you, we could all be extinct by then. Get yourself some vinegar for that massive chip on your shoulder by the way It’s not me who’s in favour of the rich. Nor me either.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2022 6:42:32 GMT
World leaders. I wonder what we’ve done here that’s different to the other members of the G7?
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Post by partickpotter on May 18, 2022 6:46:42 GMT
It’s not me who’s in favour of the rich. Nor me either. But your approach will see the poor grounded and the rich flying high.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 18, 2022 6:47:28 GMT
A bottle of beer is worth a dozen Daily Mail front pages, whereas an arrest on suspicion of rape...not a peep, just more nonsense trying to conflate rising inflation with working from home!
Still, many will swallow it.
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Post by essexstokey on May 18, 2022 7:15:42 GMT
You can see with the latest revolutions why the Tories don't like working from home it gives them less opportunities for misconduct and abuse of power
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Post by toppercorner on May 18, 2022 7:21:29 GMT
The cost of living is truly terrifying, the jump to 9% is going to have such awful repercussions for many of us; but this time the govt isn't coming out and saying that they'll leave no-one behind (like they lie they told at the beginning of the pandemic when they arbitrarily left 3m self-employed to rot, suffer, and mentally collapse for 18 months), this time our financial guru, Rishi Sunak (the man linked with our initial 2008 financial crash) has openly said the government "cannot protect people completely" from rising inflation" (source BBC)
Well, they could have. This govt has literally just voted down a windfall tax on the oil companies for their excess profits, that would save everyone on this board (UK based) approx £600.
The MPs (all parties) have not resisted the £2.2k pay rise this year, they can still claim up to £3.4k per year for personal energy costs.
Seriously, when are we rioting? What the fuck has happened to this country? We have taken this lying, the french wouldn't stand for it (although their energy increase was capped at 4% because they're in the EU), but we are.
There has to be a forced change, this can't go on.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 18, 2022 7:23:23 GMT
World leaders. I wonder what we’ve done here that’s different to the other members of the G7? The inflation rate for the bottom 10% (in terms of income) is actually closer to 11%. The same group has had zero wage growth this year and £1000 removed from them by Sunak. At the same time the top 1% have seen wages soar. Good old levelling up, eh?
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Post by partickpotter on May 18, 2022 7:48:43 GMT
World leaders. I wonder what we’ve done here that’s different to the other members of the G7? Last time I looked we were just behind the US but ahead of the other European G7 countries. I’m guessing that’s now changed. The question is a good one though. What’s different about the UK. The answer, to a large degree, is the exchange rate. And this is something where action can be taken. Basically, the world doesn’t believe the UK is taking appropriate economic actions which drives the pound lower which drives inflation higher as export costs increase. What can the UK do? Two things… increase interest rates and cut taxes or at least don’t raise them. The Bank of England has been negligent on the first, the government misguided on the second. There are echoes of Thatcher and Howe at the start of the 80s where they exacerbated a recession by a series of inept actions trying to address a currency crisis tgat was at the heart of that awful recession.
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Post by phileetin on May 18, 2022 9:36:16 GMT
Just when you think there must be an end to the Bullshit excuses that The Conservative Government could conjure up, Oh no there is even more RIshi "Mr Silicon Valley" Sunak says he was unable to increase Benefits above 3.1% because THE COMPUTER SAID NO www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-13/sunak-blames-it-systems-for-decision-not-to-raise-uk-benefitsHe says the DWP Computer System didn't allow him to increase Benefits above this level. This from a Man who before entering Politics built his career in Silicon Valley and whose Father-in-law is Founder and Chairman Emeritus of one of the biggest IT Consultantcy Firms in the World Perhaps his wife wouldn't have earned enough Wedge for her to bother sheltering it offshore There’s no doubt this Tory Government has shown itself to be clueless in its response to the inflation challenge facing the UK just now. It’s reflective of a general vacuousness on actual policy. Johnson, perhaps taking inspiration from Tony Blair, seems to think up beat sound bites are sufficient to run a government. He is deluded. What this government needs to do now is introduce a series of measures to support people. Not a continuous defence of inaction.
Supporting people is the opposite of what is normally required to curb inflation.
Tha answer has always been to take the heat out of the economy , higher taxes and higher interest rates .
Too much money in the economy has "fuelled" higher house prices and higher rents . The best solution to stop this , in my opinion , is to introduce a tax on landlords and in order to stop that being passed onto tenants introducing a rent cap based on , say , rateable value .
I don't believe taxing oil companies is the solution because it won't reduce prices , and if the plan is to pass the money raised onto consumers that is inflationery . Also , what happens when oil prices fall , they will eventually , we'll end up with that fiasco when the gov't tried to take back the ? £10 per week covid support allowance .
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Post by essexstokey on May 18, 2022 9:59:41 GMT
just a thought would the cost of fuel etc be anywhere as bad if the companies had still been in public ownership and the billions upon billions of pounds had not been paid in dividends over the years
again another tory policy to sell of the family silver to give tax cuts to the rich
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Post by phileetin on May 18, 2022 10:04:20 GMT
just a thought would the cost of fuel etc be anywhere as bad if the companies had still been in public ownership and the billions upon billions of pounds had not been paid in dividends over the years again another tory policy to sell of the family silver to give tax cuts to the rich i'd give up thinking if that's all you can come up with.
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Post by essexstokey on May 18, 2022 10:16:56 GMT
just a thought would the cost of fuel etc be anywhere as bad if the companies had still been in public ownership and the billions upon billions of pounds had not been paid in dividends over the years again another tory policy to sell of the family silver to give tax cuts to the rich i'd give up thinking if that's all you can come up with. Looks like you did years ago
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Post by oggyoggy on May 18, 2022 10:36:28 GMT
World leaders. I wonder what we’ve done here that’s different to the other members of the G7? It starts with a B and ends with a T
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Post by oggyoggy on May 18, 2022 10:42:16 GMT
World leaders. I wonder what we’ve done here that’s different to the other members of the G7? Last time I looked we were just behind the US but ahead of the other European G7 countries. I’m guessing that’s now changed. The question is a good one though. What’s different about the UK. The answer, to a large degree, is the exchange rate. And this is something where action can be taken. Basically, the world doesn’t believe the UK is taking appropriate economic actions which drives the pound lower which drives inflation higher as export costs increase. What can the UK do? Two things… increase interest rates and cut taxes or at least don’t raise them. The Bank of England has been negligent on the first, the government misguided on the second. There are echoes of Thatcher and Howe at the start of the 80s where they exacerbated a recession by a series of inept actions trying to address a currency crisis tgat was at the heart of that awful recession. We can all be absolutely categorically certain it has nothing remotely to do with Brexit. Ripping up our trade agreements is a sound economic move. So much so, we may be doing it again with our biggest trading partner. Had the other G7 nations done that (twice), they would be even further ahead in the inflation league tables. I’m amazed the US isn’t putting up trade barriers between all its states, just to copy the inspired Johnson move of a trade barrier down the Irish Sea! Brexit has no downsides. Think how bad inflation would be if we didn’t have the extra £350m a week building up in the government coffers!
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 18, 2022 10:56:17 GMT
Winter of discontent on the way? www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2022/may/inflation-restrain-boardroom-greed-not-workers-pay-says-unite-boss/As real terms inflation (the RPI) crashes into double–digits at 11.1 per cent, the leader of the Unite union hit back at demands for wage restraint, saying that calls for reflection should be directed to FTSE 100 CEOs who have seen their pay packages swell by more than one third.
Unite general secretary Sharon Graham said: “The alarm bells are ringing very loudly now. Earnings are being pummelled, the government is, shamefully, turning its back on those in need and employers are squeezing wages. So, we will absolutely take no more lectures on pay restraint from the millionaire governor of the Bank of England.
“If Andrew Bailey wants to lecture anyone about belt-tightening, he should direct his attention to the CEOs of the UK’s top 100 companies who have seen their wages swell by an average of 34 per cent to an astonishing £4.1 million a year. Ask them to pause to reflect about the scale of their corporate greed.
“Workers, on the other hand, are at least £70 worse off than this time last year and are being battered by spiralling food and energy costs. Telling them to pay for a crisis which is absolutely not of their making is obscene and totally unacceptable to Unite.
“Unite’s answer to the current crisis is that employers who can pay decent wages but won’t will face industrial action. I can tell you that we don’t intend to shift from that.
“We have been involved in over 300 disputes since I became general secretary. Fifty thousand union members have been involved in industrial action in that time and we’ve won millions of pounds in pay uplifts. Being in a strong union like Unite is the only way for workers to defend their jobs, pay and conditions and get a decent ‘share of the pie’.”
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 18, 2022 11:16:57 GMT
Very good programme on r4 last night at half nine, looking back at the 1970s inflation and today's situation.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 18, 2022 11:21:37 GMT
The way things are going, a long hot summer may trigger rioting.
I imagine Priti Patel is licking her chops at the very thought of being able to condemn and sound tough about it, while remaining completely oblivious to being part of the cause of it...
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Post by partickpotter on May 18, 2022 11:22:52 GMT
Very good programme on r4 last night at half nine, looking back at the 1970s inflation and today's situation. What did it say?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 18, 2022 11:23:56 GMT
Very good programme on r4 last night at half nine, looking back at the 1970s inflation and today's situation. You realise MrCoke will now be on telling us how he warned Edward Heath at the time to spend less time sailing and more on getting to grips with inflation, but would he listen?
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