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Post by elystokie on May 14, 2023 10:21:51 GMT
Genuinely thought that was a parody for the first minute or so 😳 Absolutely hilarious that it isn't 😄
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Post by fullmetaljacket on May 14, 2023 11:17:49 GMT
Might as well as get up and read we have no ideas or clue so we will spread fear and chaos instead.
Feels like it's been written for him and he's just reading it out..
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 14, 2023 11:36:41 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 14, 2023 12:14:31 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 14, 2023 12:41:27 GMT
Yeh areal vote winner that is "pretty massive" indeed……the minor stuff like the NHS, the economy, education, transport, defence and all the other stuff that admittedly the Tories have messed up doesn’t matter. Let’s just see how Labour can get more votes. It’s pathetic and summarises our politicians on all sides….a bunch of no idea loonies.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 14, 2023 13:05:08 GMT
Yeh areal vote winner that is "pretty massive" indeed……the minor stuff like the NHS, the economy, education, transport, defence and all the other stuff that admittedly the Tories have messed up doesn’t matter. Let’s just see how Labour can get more votes. It’s pathetic and summarises our politicians on all sides….a bunch of no idea loonies. It absolutely is massive, no two ways about it. I didn't remotely suggest that 'all the other stuff doesn't matter' but you already knew that.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 14, 2023 13:15:01 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 14, 2023 13:31:50 GMT
Oh this is the lot that are campaigning to bring back Johnson, isn't it? 🙄 For how much longer is the UK going to be held hostage to Tory in fighting? Brexit was a direct result of the right of the party becoming a threat to Cameron and yet here we are 7 years later and the Tories are as divided as ever. Brexit had achieved absolutely zip in terms of uniting them, whilst the British economy is in the toilet. Starmer comes in for a lot of stick but at least he's got the vast majority of his party towing the line, whilst the Tories are just a very dangerous mish mash of ideologues, who don't give a flying fig about the ordinary man in the street.
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Post by yeswilko on May 14, 2023 13:50:41 GMT
Oh this is the lot that are campaigning to bring back Johnson, isn't it? 🙄 For how much longer is the UK going to be held hostage to Tory in fighting? Brexit was a direct result of the right of the party becoming a threat to Cameron and yet here we are 7 years later and the Tories are as divided as ever. Brexit had achieved absolutely zip in terms of uniting them, whilst the British economy is in the toilet. Starmer comes in for a lot of stick but at least he's got the vast majority of his party towing the line, whilst the Tories are just a very dangerous mish mash of ideologues, who don't give a flying fig about the ordinary man in the street. Gullis is one of the Mps that resigned to bring down Boris isn't he? What an all round embarrassment to Stoke that bloke is.
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Post by gawa on May 14, 2023 16:13:37 GMT
Warrior against woke 🤣🤣🤣 Make it sounds like he's just got out of the trenches.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2023 5:24:21 GMT
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Post by 828492 on May 15, 2023 6:04:11 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2023 6:38:29 GMT
How is it possible to say that? Labour under Starmer has never been in power. How can you say with any certainty whatsoever that under a Starmer government, the redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle to the rich and connected will be anything like we have seen under the tories, particularly during Johnson’s leadership. They are not all the same. The tories have ruined almost everything possible to ruin in this country. How can you possibly assume the same will continue being the case under Labour? There is simply no evidence to back up your point of view, save for the narrative painted by tory controlled press. I am saying this as someone who has never voted labour and who won’t be at the next election either. Starmer is a man of no real conviction or ideas and rarely if ever makes statements of what Labour would do if they came to power and all he ever does is call out the Tories with a black is white type statements. The first part is Bozo to a T, who you no doubt voted quite happily for. Doesn't even really believe in Brexit. Starmer outlined several new policy positions at the last Labour conference.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2023 6:40:09 GMT
Who'd've thought being in power was the only thing these shysters care about? Mustn't let more people vote in case they don't vote Tory.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2023 6:44:54 GMT
No taxation without representation. A country went to war on such a thing. It's absolutely right that if you live and pay tax in this country you should get a say in how it's used. I'd go further and remove the vote from non-dom non-tax payers.
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Post by Veritas on May 15, 2023 7:28:44 GMT
Genuinely thought that was a parody for the first minute or so 😳 Absolutely hilarious that it isn't 😄 I note he didn't like the scheming that saw the removal of Johnson and Truss saying we should never replace a PM mid term without a vote of the people, what like when Johnson replaced May! Or the changes from Churchill to MacMillan, MacMillan to Douglas-Hume, Thatcher to Major and Campbell to May.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2023 7:32:19 GMT
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Post by elystokie on May 15, 2023 7:42:56 GMT
Obviously being the party that's so keen on avoiding any mistakes or voter fraud they'll be either having a recount or re running the election. You'd think...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2023 9:10:30 GMT
Oops....
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Post by toppercorner on May 15, 2023 9:21:42 GMT
This Teeside freeport debacle is going to be huge. It's unbelievable corruption and an ecological disaster. It wouldn't surprise me to see the other areas have their own versions of this.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2023 9:27:43 GMT
This Teeside freeport debacle is going to be huge. It's unbelievable corruption and an ecological disaster. It wouldn't surprise me to see the other areas have their own versions of this. Ah yes....the dead shellfish.
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Post by gawa on May 15, 2023 12:26:27 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 15, 2023 13:29:23 GMT
"The law does not allow votes to be counted following a declaration." Why? Why saddle yourself with such a ridiculous law? If something has gone wrong and over a quarter of the votes didn't get counted, then simply count them now, add them to the original count and announce what the result SHOULD have been. Who could possibly have an issue with that being the rule before any election takes place?
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Post by toppercorner on May 15, 2023 13:38:29 GMT
This Teeside freeport debacle is going to be huge. It's unbelievable corruption and an ecological disaster. It wouldn't surprise me to see the other areas have their own versions of this. Ah yes....the dead shellfish. There is a chemical factory not too far away, that i am convinced (no personal proof), dumps waste into the see. The dredging of the teeside port to double its original width is disturbing the sea bed, and in my opinion, releasing the toxic chemicals. I didn't know they still dismantled in this country, i thought it was all sent to India to be done, out of sight, out of mind. The freeport issue is one that's going to run and run for decades. I just don't think people have grasped the magnitude of destruction of what is to come in such zones.
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Post by Veritas on May 15, 2023 14:28:27 GMT
"The law does not allow votes to be counted following a declaration." Why? Why saddle yourself with such a ridiculous law? If something has gone wrong and over a quarter of the votes didn't get counted, then simply count them now, add them to the original count and announce what the result SHOULD have been. Who could possibly have an issue with that being the rule before any election takes place? I think the available route is to make representation to the Returning Officer who could rule a re-run is required, it appears you have 21 days to lodge the complaint. I can see that extra votes appearing after a declaration could be an open invitation to attempted fraud. Seems a bit tedious but a re-run would be the most transparent option.
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Post by gawa on May 15, 2023 14:29:10 GMT
Jacob Rees-Mogg has suggested the Conservatives introduced voter ID to boost their election chances, but it came "back to bite them". Speaking at a conference for Conservatives in London, he accused Labour of "gerrymandering" - fixing rules to gain electoral advantage - by potentially extending voting rights to some EU citizens if they enter government. So he admits that they introduced voter ID to gerrymander and increase their chances in the election. And then he claims that everyone else is gerrymandering. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65599380#commentsThis is a perfect example of what happens when you tell lots of tiny fibs and they catch up on you. You then sound like a bumbling idiot digging your own grave.
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Post by Veritas on May 15, 2023 14:33:04 GMT
Jacob Rees-Mogg has suggested the Conservatives introduced voter ID to boost their election chances, but it came "back to bite them". Speaking at a conference for Conservatives in London, he accused Labour of "gerrymandering" - fixing rules to gain electoral advantage - by potentially extending voting rights to some EU citizens if they enter government. So he admits that they introduced voter ID to gerrymander and increase their chances in the election. And then he claims that everyone else is gerrymandering. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65599380#commentsThis is a perfect example of what happens when you tell lots of tiny fibs and they catch up on you. You then sound like a bumbling idiot digging your own grave. Which by coincidence he is.
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Post by elystokie on May 15, 2023 14:38:55 GMT
Jacob Rees-Mogg has suggested the Conservatives introduced voter ID to boost their election chances, but it came "back to bite them". Speaking at a conference for Conservatives in London, he accused Labour of "gerrymandering" - fixing rules to gain electoral advantage - by potentially extending voting rights to some EU citizens if they enter government. So he admits that they introduced voter ID to gerrymander and increase their chances in the election. And then he claims that everyone else is gerrymandering. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65599380#commentsThis is a perfect example of what happens when you tell lots of tiny fibs and they catch up on you. You then sound like a bumbling idiot digging your own grave. It could be that it's down to his rampant narcissism, narcissists notoriously have little to zero self awareness.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2023 15:20:49 GMT
"The law does not allow votes to be counted following a declaration." Why? Why saddle yourself with such a ridiculous law? If something has gone wrong and over a quarter of the votes didn't get counted, then simply count them now, add them to the original count and announce what the result SHOULD have been. Who could possibly have an issue with that being the rule before any election takes place? I think the available route is to make representation to the Returning Officer who could rule a re-run is required, it appears you have 21 days to lodge the complaint. I can see that extra votes appearing after a declaration could be an open invitation to attempted fraud. Seems a bit tedious but a re-run would be the most transparent option. Correct.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2023 18:08:58 GMT
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