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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 14:32:09 GMT
Definitely didn't see us scoring once they got their goal so I'm happy with that result. And one less time we have to endure a Tony Pulis match. Happy days. The other nice thing is that TP will be furious with the mistake ha 😀
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 27, 2017 14:32:36 GMT
Prov s my point how desperate we are for a striker if we are relying on Crouch Bring Crouch on to lump balls to when Pulis goes 1-0 up. Is Hughes fucking demented? This game still needs creativity and players running at their defense and we put on Crouch. We are losing Go back to 442 and give it a go playing e ball on the fucking floor Not fucking Crouch
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Post by callas12 on Aug 27, 2017 14:33:35 GMT
Great point on reflection especially after going a goal behind and 4pts after 3 games I'm sure we'd of all settled for prior to the season starting. Nice see Crouch scoring again, whilst a few people on here constantly berate him I think he still offers us a different attacking threat, and is dependable not not in front of goal but also in defending set piece situations. He is a player that's served us well and will continue to do so, definitely an asset to our newly crafted team.
A strange thing I noticed today was not once did a physio from either team enter the field of play during the game or anyone stay down injured after a tackle/foul. Thats something can't say I've noticed before. Unusual too as the tackles were flying in at points during the game. Ref still found 4mins of additional time to play.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:33:46 GMT
Cameron was good, your disdain for him is nothing new seeing Zouma fell asleep. you saying they werent both at fault ?? No, Zouma was the main infraction there, falling asleep literally standing still letting a man drift by him into the far post and Geoff didn't slow him down or yell, but you see to negate the fact the RCB fell asleep and literally assumed an outside RWB could get inside a cutting Rodriguez, never going to happen unless he pulls him down.
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Post by alster on Aug 27, 2017 14:33:49 GMT
As a wing back Cameron is simply not good enough his crossing and temperament in their area abysmal. I agree, Cameron should be a midfielder and center back which are his actual position as there is better in the side now at RWB and RB. I'm not even sure there is better but that still doesn't make him even adequate. Erik's crossing was back on song today
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 27, 2017 14:35:11 GMT
Jese anonymous, still don't think we need him. Moting and Sobhi can cover the left, should've brought in a Striker and wing-backs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 14:35:23 GMT
Prov s my point how desperate we are for a striker if we are relying on Crouch Bring Crouch on to lump balls to when Pulis goes 1-0 up. Is Hughes fucking demented? This game still needs creativity and players running at their defense and we put on Crouch. We are losing Go back to 442 and give it a go playing e ball on the fucking floor Not fucking Crouch Be honest now. How long did it take you to do that? 😊
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Post by StatesideStokie on Aug 27, 2017 14:35:35 GMT
A point away against any Pulis side is a point well earned. I feared the worst when they went 1-0 up, but Hughes made the right changes and the right time and we ground out a decent result. Fletcher was superb in the middle, and Zouma is just a joy to watch when he comes striding out of defense. Was at fault for the goal, but more than made up for it with his forward forays.
We're still lacking a cutting edge up front, although Choupo has shown enormous promise - has a great first touch and quick feet, and i think he'll prove a valuable addition. Jesé was largely anonymous, but not going to judge him against a side that play two back fours at home.
Ramadan looked dangerous and gave us some spark with his jinking runs.....needs a run in the side and this could be a big season for the lad.
Good to see Crouchie get on the scoresheet and illustrates exactly why he's still a valuable part of the squad.
Happy with a point and glad that ones out of the way.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:35:52 GMT
Prov s my point how desperate we are for a striker if we are relying on Crouch Bring Crouch on to lump balls to when Pulis goes 1-0 up. Is Hughes fucking demented? This game still needs creativity and players running at their defense and we put on Crouch. We are losing Go back to 442 and give it a go playing e ball on the fucking floor Not fucking Crouch I wasn't mad Crouch was coming on lol I just wanted Allen off for a creative type I was pissed hughes let him be a bystander to Fletcher.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 27, 2017 14:35:56 GMT
you saying they werent both at fault ?? No, Zouma was the main infraction there, falling asleep literally standing still letting a man drift by him into the far post and Geoff didn't slow him down or yell, but you see to negate the fact the RCB fell asleep and literally assumed an outside RWB could get inside a cutting Rodriguez, never going to happen unless he pulls him down. No I didnt at all I said both were at fault earlier
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Post by jinxed71 on Aug 27, 2017 14:36:04 GMT
Stoke looking healthy now in the table
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:37:55 GMT
No, Zouma was the main infraction there, falling asleep literally standing still letting a man drift by him into the far post and Geoff didn't slow him down or yell, but you see to negate the fact the RCB fell asleep and literally assumed an outside RWB could get inside a cutting Rodriguez, never going to happen unless he pulls him down. No I didnt at all I said both were at fault earlier Like I said, Zouma is going to get stick in the dressing room and at tape review. Unless you think in your mind Hughes is going to blame it all on Geoff like you really want eh?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 14:38:08 GMT
Jese got us three points with a goal our other strikers would have cocked up. Crouchy in the right place. We don't need em?
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:40:25 GMT
Jese got us three points with a goal our other strikers would have cocked up. Crouchy in the right place. We don't need em? Getting rid of Crouch now would be suicidal for us. He's always got a goal in him. Hughes needs to figure out how to use Chupo more.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 27, 2017 14:40:41 GMT
No I didnt at all I said both were at fault earlier Like I said, Zouma is going to get stick in the dressing room and at tape review. Unless you think in your mind Hughes is going to blame it all on Geoff like you really want eh? wrong, hes played well but he was partly to blame. Sorry forgot you cant blame a yank
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Post by alster on Aug 27, 2017 14:40:52 GMT
Beforehand I would have taken a point, but we had so much possession and did so little with it. A few thoughts: 1. Choupo is not a centre forward. 2. Ramadan at right wing back is worth looking at. 3. We need more pace and urgency going forward and a new striker to play as the focal point of the attack. 4. Shaq was not properly fit and didn't dare to try to sprint. Why play him? 5. Bar a total cock up at the back we would have been pulised again, but in the end it is a good point. 6. Thank God we only have to suffer 2 games a season of that these days. The fact that we're starting with a makeshift centre forward who looks like a fish out of water up the middle is very frustrating. I saw enough of that against Arsenal. Amazed Hughes went with it again, showing no faith in the forward he chased for 2 years. He really needs to buy one he's willing to play.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:42:24 GMT
Like I said, Zouma is going to get stick in the dressing room and at tape review. Unless you think in your mind Hughes is going to blame it all on Geoff like you really want eh? wrong, hes played well but he was partly to blame. Sorry forgot you cant blame a yank There is blame and then there is blatant bias seeking it out on a messageboard every fucking week and little or no praise if ever, sound familiar chester? You're the benji to Stoke's Geoff.
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 27, 2017 14:42:32 GMT
Jese anonymous, still don't think we need him. Moting and Sobhi can cover the left, should've brought in a Striker and wing-backs. When Jese signed I kind of assumed he'd been brought in as a striker. I'd have switched him and Choupo at HT because Nyom was bullying Jese, and Choupo was outnumbered in the box. Could've tried it for 10 minutes, see if Jese could move the CHs and give us a different option to play a ball behind them instead of through them.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Aug 27, 2017 14:42:46 GMT
I'll take a draw. I think we will have a great season, I have no idea where all this relegation talk came from.
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Post by tqstokie on Aug 27, 2017 14:43:46 GMT
A competent enough performance but we are so slow! We need to get a couple of players who play with a bit of devil. It is all too nice and academic. It is also very boring to watch!
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:44:04 GMT
I'll take a draw. I think we will have a great season, I have no idea where all this relegation talk came from. Really? Like no idea? It's the same few every season.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 27, 2017 14:44:05 GMT
wrong, hes played well but he was partly to blame. Sorry forgot you cant blame a yank There is blame and then there is blatant bias seeking it out on a messageboard every fucking week and little or no praise if ever, sound familiar chester? You're the benji to Stoke's Geoff. rubbish find the last time before today I critiscised him
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Post by mrred on Aug 27, 2017 14:44:43 GMT
Prov s my point how desperate we are for a striker if we are relying on Crouch Bring Crouch on to lump balls to when Pulis goes 1-0 up. Is Hughes fucking demented? This game still needs creativity and players running at their defense and we put on Crouch. We are losing Go back to 442 and give it a go playing e ball on the fucking floor Not fucking Crouch Mate you won't find a bigger advocate for Crouch than me, but my point of contention was I thought he was just going to lump balls into a 10 man defence.
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Post by liathroid on Aug 27, 2017 14:45:04 GMT
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Post by alster on Aug 27, 2017 14:45:04 GMT
Jese got us three points with a goal our other strikers would have cocked up. Crouchy in the right place. We don't need em? Getting rid of Crouch now would be suicidal for us. He's always got a goal in him. Hughes needs to figure out how to use Chupo more. He's not a centre forward. He's ok wide even then I don't think he provides anything that Ramadan wouldn't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 14:45:29 GMT
A game best suited to radio or,thats how it sounded for me-----ahh well! I'd have taken a point against tony pulis and his latest life sucking 'footall team'.- --just so glad thesedays we moved him on.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:46:29 GMT
There is blame and then there is blatant bias seeking it out on a messageboard every fucking week and little or no praise if ever, sound familiar chester? You're the benji to Stoke's Geoff. rubbish find the last time before today I critiscised him That is easy, finding genuine praise might take a while. How long has he been here? 5 years?
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 27, 2017 14:46:38 GMT
Like I said, Zouma is going to get stick in the dressing room and at tape review. Unless you think in your mind Hughes is going to blame it all on Geoff like you really want eh? wrong, hes played well but he was partly to blame. Sorry forgot you cant blame a yank I'm not a Yank but I'm mostly blaming Zouma. He does his job and the ball doesn't reach rodriguez. Apart from that he was fucking ace, absolute beast.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 27, 2017 14:47:51 GMT
rubbish find the last time before today I critiscised him That is easy, finding genuine praise might take a while. How long has he been here? 5 years? you will see praise as well and see where I admitted I was wrong about him, like I said you dont allow anyone to criticise a yank.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 27, 2017 14:50:33 GMT
That is easy, finding genuine praise might take a while. How long has he been here? 5 years? you will see praise as well and see where I admitted I was wrong about him, like I said you dont allow anyone to criticise a yank. Jesus a quick search you've been hatin for a long time. Did a yank shag your missus? You're a hypocrite man.
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