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Post by conzdad on Jul 25, 2017 19:17:34 GMT
Could it come back to bite us in the arse letting these seasoned professionals with premier league experience go before we get decent replacements in? Only time will tell I guess but right now its not looking very good with the season not far away.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 25, 2017 19:18:07 GMT
PLEASE COME BACK PHL!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 25, 2017 19:18:31 GMT
I would imagine we have a replacement lined up. Everyone including my blind cat can see Johnson is way past it and cannot be relied on remotely to stay fit. We clearly  don't have a replacement for Arnie lined up so why would this be any different . We don't need a replacement for bardsley. He hardly ever played and when he did he was either crap, injured or got sent off. He's no loss at all.
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Post by adi on Jul 25, 2017 19:22:21 GMT
Good luck phil. Can't fault him top professional
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2017 19:22:51 GMT
We clearly  don't have a replacement for Arnie lined up so why would this be any different . We don't need a replacement for bardsley. He hardly ever played and when he did he was either crap, injured or got sent off. He's no loss at all. He's better than Glen Johnson.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 25, 2017 19:28:39 GMT
We don't need a replacement for bardsley. He hardly ever played and when he did he was either crap, injured or got sent off. He's no loss at all. He's better than Glen Johnson. No matter how many times you post it, that doesn't make him good. Edit - Cameron is probably a better right back than them both and we know your views on him
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 25, 2017 19:29:12 GMT
Wonder if Burnley would be willing to take crouch off our hands? People wanted dads army gone. One by one they are going and still they moan. Indeed. Imagine the fuss on here if we started the season with the whole Dads Army still here. Damned if we do and damned if we don't. To be fair Crouch is the one I would keep.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2017 19:30:49 GMT
He's better than Glen Johnson. No matter how many times you post it, that doesn't make him good. Edit - Cameron is probably a better right back than them both and we know your views on him I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace.
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Post by stokie1130 on Jul 25, 2017 19:32:59 GMT
We have got have a replacement comeing surely, u can't be selling players and leave ourselfs short, god I hope so
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Post by owdestokie on Jul 25, 2017 19:33:01 GMT
We clearly  don't have a replacement for Arnie lined up so why would this be any different . We don't need a replacement for bardsley. He hardly ever played and when he did he was either crap, injured or got sent off. He's no loss at all. Hhh Bollocks
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 25, 2017 19:34:03 GMT
No matter how many times you post it, that doesn't make him good. Edit - Cameron is probably a better right back than them both and we know your views on him I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace. Bardsley couldn't run either and was forever holding his groin. Johnsons good performances, even though a distant memory, are infinitely superior to bardsley's best games in a stoke shirt. In fact, I can only remember 3 good performances from bardsley and one of those was against Stevenage.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2017 19:36:58 GMT
I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace. Bardsley couldn't run either and was forever holding his groin. Johnsons good performances, even though a distant memory, are infinitely superior to bardsley's best games in a stoke shirt. In fact, I can only remember 3 good performances from bardsley and one of those was against Stevenage. Bardo has played at a better level way more consistently and Johnson is as injury prone. Johnson had a good 3 months in his first season and that was about it. He's been a real shitter of a signing.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 25, 2017 19:37:33 GMT
No matter how many times you post it, that doesn't make him good. Edit - Cameron is probably a better right back than them both and we know your views on him I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace. No we've sold the 1 we've had an offer for. We could have just not given Bards a contract at all but we've just made a nominal amount of money for being clever. Which is just ace.
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Post by stokemark on Jul 25, 2017 19:42:05 GMT
I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace. No we've sold the 1 we've had an offer for. We could have just not given Bards a contract at all but we've just made a nominal amount of money for being clever. Which is just ace. It was him (Bards) who had the option to sign a one year extension
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2017 19:42:37 GMT
I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace. No we've sold the 1 we've had an offer for. We could have just not given Bards a contract at all but we've just made a nominal amount of money for being clever. Which is just ace. Very nominal if it is 750k and you take his wages off that we wouldn't have had to pay him in those 6/7 weeks. It seems massively small time and a bit desperate. And also if it's in any way shape or form stopped us from getting a right back to work on shape, positioning and linking with Shaq in before pre-season then it's been an awful decision.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 25, 2017 19:47:51 GMT
Bardsley couldn't run either and was forever holding his groin. Johnsons good performances, even though a distant memory, are infinitely superior to bardsley's best games in a stoke shirt. In fact, I can only remember 3 good performances from bardsley and one of those was against Stevenage. Bardo has played at a better level way more consistently and Johnson is as injury prone. Johnson had a good 3 months in his first season and that was about it. He's been a real shitter of a signing. Rubbish. He was excellent in his first season with us and when stories of potential interest from west ham emerged he was easily one of our better players. As recently as October 2016, he got an England recall and was mysteriously being linked with Barcelona. Meanwhile bardsley couldn't get into a shit stoke side and an even shitter Scotland squad.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 25, 2017 19:48:02 GMT
No we've sold the 1 we've had an offer for. We could have just not given Bards a contract at all but we've just made a nominal amount of money for being clever. Which is just ace. It was him (Bards) who had the option to sign a one year extension Says who ? Someone on here ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2017 19:52:20 GMT
Bardo has played at a better level way more consistently and Johnson is as injury prone. Johnson had a good 3 months in his first season and that was about it. He's been a real shitter of a signing. Rubbish. He was excellent in his first season with us and when stories of potential interest from west ham emerged he was easily one of our better players. As recently as October 2016, he got an England recall and was mysteriously being linked with Barcelona. Meanwhile bardsley couldn't get into a shit stoke side and an even shitter Scotland squad. He took months to get going in his first season and really wasn't that good for a good part of it. He was defensively ok for the large part but the bit he was meant to be good at (attacking) he couldn't do. His passing in particular is atrocious and that's really surprised me. He was garbage all last season. The England call up was a surprise to everyone. Neither are what we should aspire to and we deserve better than both but Johnson should not be at this club over Bardsley at this moment in time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 19:52:52 GMT
Good luck Phil.
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Post by owdestokie on Jul 25, 2017 20:06:35 GMT
Bardo has played at a better level way more consistently and Johnson is as injury prone. Johnson had a good 3 months in his first season and that was about it. He's been a real shitter of a signing. Rubbish. He was excellent in his first season with us and when stories of potential interest from west ham emerged he was easily one of our better players. As recently as October 2016, he got an England recall and was mysteriously being linked with Barcelona. Meanwhile bardsley couldn't get into a shit stoke side and an even shitter Scotland squad. Bardsley couldn't get into the side because first and foremost he's a defender and didn't fit into Leslie's idea of unbalanced and a going nowwhere idea of football. The lack of "defending" when the opposition had the ball has meant the likes of Shawcross being crucified for being out of position. The likes of Bardsley, Whelan and Walters needed replacing with better, younger players, players with equal bollocks to play a man's games. I'll await and pass judgement on the 1st of September
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Post by scfc5 on Jul 25, 2017 20:10:38 GMT
Any chance we can go for Iorfa from Wolves now? Think he's gone on loan to Ipswich - Wolves fans didn't seem to rate him, just seemed to have a worldie against us I hang my head in shame - I'm officially a Premier League snob with no idea about transfers in the Championship! 😩
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Post by salopstick on Jul 25, 2017 20:14:56 GMT
Phil Bardsley was a top pro for stoke
Great deal for Burnley
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 20:17:49 GMT
It doesn't appear that Johnson can even play well in a friendly. Please Stoke, f--k him off!
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Post by Northy on Jul 25, 2017 20:21:22 GMT
can't understand this one, why give Johnson a new contract and let Phil go, unless its cameron and edwards
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jul 25, 2017 20:25:29 GMT
Cheers Bards you're top lad. You had the class and balls to appear on your own to the Biddulph & Knype supporters club. You did great that evening. Lad still has a signed pic.
You were always regarded as a top pro. Thanks for everything & good luck mate.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jul 25, 2017 20:30:22 GMT
I would have kept Johnson over Bardsley too. Better passing and less fouls... Other than that not much in it defensively.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 25, 2017 20:36:59 GMT
Can't see a right back coming in.
1st choice: Johnson (shudder)
Primary cover: Cameron/Diouf
Worst case scenario: Edwards
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Jul 25, 2017 20:38:12 GMT
This is madness !!!....Selling Bards and keeping Johnson..WTF !... I'm still mourning the loss of Arnie and now this. I refuse to be a knicker wetter, but i'm starting to get a little moist.. I bet you a tenna you are!
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Post by miltonpotter on Jul 25, 2017 20:38:40 GMT
Great lad always did his best but clearly not good enough to kick us on. Johnson's legs have gone but I'm sure they have thought this through before letting Bards move on. Diouf is our best option as we stand...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 25, 2017 20:39:39 GMT
I've been reliably informed that Burnley originally offered £2 million for Bards but we went back to them with a counter offer of £750k coupled with a single match loan back to us for him on the 16th December.
Make of that what you will ...
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