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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 8:18:23 GMT
What would there advice to be for a friend of a friend, HIS name is Zahia and he wants to leave Islam and marry a non muslim man? Can't speak for anything to do with Sharia Law. But my advice would be speak to his local registry office as he can do exactly what he wants in our wonderful country. The Drunken Bullshitter seems to think " Sharia 4u" have a branch on every British High Street....condoning murder, authorising acid attacks and giving advice on rape technique.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 22, 2017 8:18:33 GMT
Two seconds it took to find this. As the number of Sharia courts operating behind closed doors - and beyond the reach of British law - continues to grow apace, a new documentary has exposed what really happens during the shadowy proceedings. There are believed to be 85 Sharia courts in the UK, and last night Channel 4's Extremely British Muslims aired footage captured inside Birmingham's Central Mosque as a council dispensed its strict religious form of justice.Ah yes DC, but you are misleading us by stating FACTS...We all now the liberal left ignore FACTS and as others have said would much rather expose Tommy Johnstone and his mates as beastly racists who are intolerant to our peace loving ever so friendly foreign friends...And yes, they are foreign, when they have no respect for our laws, traditions and cultures then they are foreign. As in if you bite a sandwich and there is a piece of plastic in it , it is referred to as a foreign object, in other words does not belong there, shouldn't be there, much like anyone who has clear hatred of everything that our once great, and hopefully will be great again, Country stands for. Isn't it awful that we refer to something different which doesn't belong as foreign. Like the object in your sandwich. I view people in a different way. A foreign person to me does not mean they don't belong here. It just means they were born in a different place to me but that doesn't mean I should hate or fear them or blame them for all the problems that exist in the world. By the way, no sharia 'court' in this country is beyond our laws. And British law doesn't exist. Its English and Welsh, here. So DC wasn't repeating facts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 8:18:45 GMT
Ah yes DC, but you are misleading us by stating FACTS...We all now the liberal left ignore FACTS and as others have said would much rather expose Tommy Johnstone and his mates as beastly racists who are intolerant to our peace loving ever so friendly foreign friends...And yes, they are foreign, when they have no respect for our laws, traditions and cultures then they are foreign. As in if you bite a sandwich and there is a piece of plastic in it , it is referred to as a foreign object, in other words does not belong there, shouldn't be there, much like anyone who has clear hatred of everything that our once great, and hopefully will be great again, Country stands for. Are you a piece of plastic in a Pad Thai then? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) If not I take it that you're a Buddhist? No...But I respect my Host's Law of The Land, Their Culture, Their Customs, and have never tried to inflict my beliefs on their society, as we all know where I would end up if I did...Pity we don't have a facility in The UK like Klong Prem Prison in Bangkok, AKA Bangkok Hilton, where many a wayward Farrang has ended up for disrespecting this fine country. There is a bloke from Bromsgrove doing a 50 year stretch for possession of ecstasy tablets, only 200 of them, what would he get in The UK, fuck all, how many times do we see drug dealers being given punitive punishments and are back on the street peddling their filth in no time...
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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 8:22:33 GMT
Are you a piece of plastic in a Pad Thai then? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) If not I take it that you're a Buddhist? No... But I respect my Host's Law of The Land, Their Culture, Their Customs, and have never tried to inflict my beliefs on their society, as we all know where I would end up if I did...Pity we don't have a facility in The UK like Klong Prem Prison in Bangkok, AKA Bangkok Hilton, where many a wayward Farrang has ended up for disrespecting this fine country. There is a bloke from Bromsgrove doing a 50 year stretch for possession of ecstasy tablets, only 200 of them, what would he get in The UK, fuck all, how many times do we see drug dealers being given punitive punishments and are back on the street peddling their filth in no time... Then you must be a Buddhist then, otherwise its just lip service. Pattaya is the subject of a massive cleanup right now. The dregs of western society (not you) that inhabit that place and ultimately destroy real Thai values are being driven out.
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Post by Waggy on Jul 22, 2017 8:33:22 GMT
What would there advice to be for a friend of a friend, HIS name is Zahia and he wants to leave Islam and marry a non muslim man? Can't speak for anything to do with Sharia Law. But my advice would be speak to his local registry office as he can do exactly what he wants in our wonderful country. Thanks i will tell him. He will be pleased that he can do what he wants in Britain and he doesn't have to worry about leading the life he wants to.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 8:34:28 GMT
No... But I respect my Host's Law of The Land, Their Culture, Their Customs, and have never tried to inflict my beliefs on their society, as we all know where I would end up if I did...Pity we don't have a facility in The UK like Klong Prem Prison in Bangkok, AKA Bangkok Hilton, where many a wayward Farrang has ended up for disrespecting this fine country. There is a bloke from Bromsgrove doing a 50 year stretch for possession of ecstasy tablets, only 200 of them, what would he get in The UK, fuck all, how many times do we see drug dealers being given punitive punishments and are back on the street peddling their filth in no time... Then you must be a Buddhist then, otherwise its just lip service. Pattaya is the subject of a massive cleanup right now. The dregs of western society (not you) that inhabit that place and ultimately destroy real Thai values are being driven out. Utter nonsense . How does respecting this country's laws, cultures and beliefs make me a Buddhist. Pretty much like the vast majority of Muslims in the UK that respect our values are not Christians. Big difference between adapt and adopt.
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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 8:43:23 GMT
Then you must be a Buddhist then, otherwise its just lip service. Pattaya is the subject of a massive cleanup right now. The dregs of western society (not you) that inhabit that place and ultimately destroy real Thai values are being driven out. Utter nonsense . How does respecting this country's laws, cultures and beliefs make me a Buddhist. Pretty much like the vast majority of Muslims in the UK that respect our values are not Christians. Big difference between adapt and adopt. But Thailand is 93% Buddhist. In order to fit in - you simply must be Buddhist. It's not like the UK in that regard. The UK is open to other religion and culture. Nothing personal, but you can't live in an expat bubble and claim integration, respect and all the other stuff. Do you speak the language?
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 22, 2017 8:59:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 9:16:29 GMT
Utter nonsense . How does respecting this country's laws, cultures and beliefs make me a Buddhist. Pretty much like the vast majority of Muslims in the UK that respect our values are not Christians. Big difference between adapt and adopt. But Thailand is 93% Buddhist. In order to fit in - you simply must be Buddhist. It's not like the UK in that regard. The UK is open to other religion and culture. Nothing personal, but you can't live in an expat bubble and claim integration, respect and all the other stuff. Do you speak the language? So are you a Buddhist then.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 9:18:16 GMT
Let's face it, they haven't integrated and don't want to integrate with UK society, other than joining the Labour Party which is only for self gain for their community. Sharia is an issue in this country especially in London. You're in this country and you should abide by our laws not kangaroo sharia courts.
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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 9:18:17 GMT
But Thailand is 93% Buddhist. In order to fit in - you simply must be Buddhist. It's not like the UK in that regard. The UK is open to other religion and culture. Nothing personal, but you can't live in an expat bubble and claim integration, respect and all the other stuff. Do you speak the language? So are you a Buddhist then. Yes for 2 months now. I am known as the Miss Peaceful Waterfall Butterfly III from Longton (Library) Buddhist Centre. Sawadee Kha.
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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 9:33:20 GMT
Let's face it, they haven't integrated and don't want to integrate with UK society, other than joining the Labour Party which is only for self gain for their community. Sharia is an issue in this country especially in London. You're in this country and you should abide by our laws not kangaroo sharia courts. Where is the evidence to say "they" don't soft lad? This thread is just one of the many threads on the Oatcake, made of pure bullshit, and designed 100% for idiots that swallow this sort of nonsense whole.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 9:35:26 GMT
too late to stop them now
Europe is infested with them
Like rats ironically
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 22, 2017 9:52:36 GMT
We've been here before haven't we?
A drunken long haul, straight to the bar to post fake pics, up all night typing nonsense, stories about jogging in the middle of the night and blaming 'jet lag' but starting to get chippy with his mate and calling TDC childish names.
There's no way he can carry this on for 8 weeks. I fear the come down will be too much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 9:55:41 GMT
Let's face it, they haven't integrated and don't want to integrate with UK society, other than joining the Labour Party which is only for self gain for their community. Sharia is an issue in this country especially in London. You're in this country and you should abide by our laws not kangaroo sharia courts. Where is the evidence to say "they" don't soft lad? This thread is just one of the many threads on the Oatcake, made of pure bullshit, and designed 100% for idiots that swallow this sort of nonsense whole. Noticed you often struggle on these kind of discussions so usually offer no answer, revert to name calling and insult. Here's my answer, sharia courts are used in this country to resolve civil disputes in the Muslim community such as money and marriage, but in the more extreme hard line communities can be used for anything from what you wear to when you pay. This should not be happening in this country. Simple Now you're turn rat. In a straight forward answers 1. Are there sharia courts in the UK? 2. What role do you think they play in the British Muslim community?
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 22, 2017 10:22:37 GMT
No... But I respect my Host's Law of The Land, Their Culture, Their Customs, and have never tried to inflict my beliefs on their society, as we all know where I would end up if I did...Pity we don't have a facility in The UK like Klong Prem Prison in Bangkok, AKA Bangkok Hilton, where many a wayward Farrang has ended up for disrespecting this fine country. There is a bloke from Bromsgrove doing a 50 year stretch for possession of ecstasy tablets, only 200 of them, what would he get in The UK, fuck all, how many times do we see drug dealers being given punitive punishments and are back on the street peddling their filth in no time... Then you must be a Buddhist then, otherwise its just lip service. Pattaya is the subject of a massive cleanup right now. The dregs of western society (not you) that inhabit that place and ultimately destroy real Thai values are being driven out. Ratty old boy glad you're slowly converting to good old conservative values You never know a few more weeks in a virtual absolute monarchy You may just lose your remaining left wing tendencies
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 22, 2017 10:37:32 GMT
Let's face it, they haven't integrated and don't want to integrate with UK society, other than joining the Labour Party which is only for self gain for their community. Sharia is an issue in this country especially in London. You're in this country and you should abide by our laws not kangaroo sharia courts. Sharia law means nothing here. Our laws apply and that is it. The vast majority of muslims are law abiding and make positive contributions to our society. The minority cause a problem as with all cultures and religions. If you are a white male (likely given the demographic of stoke fans) should you be tarnished with the same brush as Harold Shipman and jimmy saville?
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 22, 2017 10:49:07 GMT
Can't speak for anything to do with Sharia Law. But my advice would be speak to his local registry office as he can do exactly what he wants in our wonderful country. Thanks i will tell him. He will be pleased that he can do what he wants in Britain and he doesn't have to worry about leading the life he wants to. If exactly what he wants is what you said: marrying a man and disassociating himself from his religion then yes he can do that here.
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Post by Northy on Jul 22, 2017 11:18:22 GMT
Let's face it, they haven't integrated and don't want to integrate with UK society, other than joining the Labour Party which is only for self gain for their community. Sharia is an issue in this country especially in London. You're in this country and you should abide by our laws not kangaroo sharia courts. Sharia law means nothing here. Our laws apply and that is it. The vast majority of muslims are law abiding and make positive contributions to our society. The minority cause a problem as with all cultures and religions. If you are a white male (likely given the demographic of stoke fans) should you be tarnished with the same brush as Harold Shipman and jimmy saville? But over half of the Brits don't think homosexuality is wrong, and 47% think gays should not teach edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.html
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 22, 2017 11:33:04 GMT
Sharia law means nothing here. Our laws apply and that is it. The vast majority of muslims are law abiding and make positive contributions to our society. The minority cause a problem as with all cultures and religions. If you are a white male (likely given the demographic of stoke fans) should you be tarnished with the same brush as Harold Shipman and jimmy saville? But over half of the Brits don't think homosexuality is wrong, and 47% think gays should not teach edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.htmlwhat's your point?
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Post by Northy on Jul 22, 2017 11:40:38 GMT
you were saying about majorities and minorities and extremes like saville and shipman, majority of muslims think being gay is wrong and shouldnt teach in schools.
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Post by tuum on Jul 22, 2017 11:55:00 GMT
Let's face it, they haven't integrated and don't want to integrate with UK society, other than joining the Labour Party which is only for self gain for their community. Sharia is an issue in this country especially in London. You're in this country and you should abide by our laws not kangaroo sharia courts. Sharia law means nothing here. Our laws apply and that is it. The vast majority of muslims are law abiding and make positive contributions to our society. The minority cause a problem as with all cultures and religions. If you are a white male (likely given the demographic of stoke fans) should you be tarnished with the same brush as Harold Shipman and jimmy saville? It is a little naive to simply state that "Sharia law means nothing here. Our laws apply and that is it". Sharia law is practiced in the UK within the community and it does mean something to the muslim community. I was originally in favour because it meant the community resolved their problems and thus relieved the burden on our courts. The potential cost savings is one of the reasons why the various governments have not intervened. However, I listened to a number of interviews with English muslim women who were vehemently opposed to Sharia Law. The counter argument that Sharia Law has no legal standing and anyone dissatisfied can take their case to the UK courts was dismissed by these women. If they were to do this some of them risked being alienated by their community and bringing dishonour to their families. We all know where that can lead in exceptional circumstances. These women genuinely felt that they had no recourse to law at all. If there was no Sharia Law in their community it would be much easier for them to use the existing UK framework to solve their problems. Having a parallel court or alternative means of conflict resolution (mediation, call it what you want) causes them problems. I understand that there is a similar system in place in London that caters for Jewish people and that it has been around for several decades. I don't know too much about this.I just caught the end of a BBC radio discussion on the subject. I suppose the bottom line is that a parallel system of community law works so long as the people who are part of that process truly feel that they can take their grievance to the UK courts in the event that they are dissatisfied with the Sharia (or whatever system) ruling. If they are too scared to seek redress in the UK court for fear of reprisals from the community then that cannot be tolerated and any alternative system that operates on that basis should be shut down.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 22, 2017 12:02:07 GMT
you were saying about majorities and minorities and extremes like saville and shipman, majority of muslims think being gay is wrong and shouldnt teach in schools. It doesn't mean they aren't law abiding citizens.
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Post by manmarking on Jul 22, 2017 12:05:02 GMT
We've been here before haven't we? A drunken long haul, straight to the bar to post fake pics, up all night typing nonsense, stories about jogging in the middle of the night and blaming 'jet lag' but starting to get chippy with his mate and calling TDC childish names. There's no way he can carry this on for 8 weeks. I fear the come down will be too much. Odd how the stuff you criticise other posters for is actually all stuff you do. Maybe it's actually yourself and your own failings that you're so bitter and hateful and angry about ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) Try getting out more, mate ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by woodstein on Jul 22, 2017 12:10:11 GMT
There are a grand total of ZERO Sharia Law Courts operating in the UK. Sharia only operates in a guidance format for muslims in the UK and does not overule British Law. What you are describing here is a murder in the UK. You say they don't overule British law, - no, they just ignore it.
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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 12:36:40 GMT
Where is the evidence to say "they" don't soft lad? This thread is just one of the many threads on the Oatcake, made of pure bullshit, and designed 100% for idiots that swallow this sort of nonsense whole. Noticed you often struggle on these kind of discussions so usually offer no answer, revert to name calling and insult. Here's my answer, sharia courts are used in this country to resolve civil disputes in the Muslim community such as money and marriage, but in the more extreme hard line communities can be used for anything from what you wear to when you pay. This should not be happening in this country. Simple Now you're turn rat. In a straight forward answers 1. Are there sharia courts in the UK? 2. What role do you think they play in the British Muslim community? It's like saying the Rupee is legal tender in the UK. It has some value but is not legal tender. Why is that so difficult to understand? You seem keen to promote a view of an alternate society growing like a cancer within the UK. It's nonsense.
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Post by Waggy on Jul 22, 2017 12:48:13 GMT
Thanks i will tell him. He will be pleased that he can do what he wants in Britain and he doesn't have to worry about leading the life he wants to. If exactly what he wants is what you said: marrying a man and disassociating himself from his religion then yes he can do that here. Thanks, i will tell him its ok to marry your boyfriend, leave Islam and carry on living your life without fear.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 22, 2017 12:52:44 GMT
There are lots of rules that different religious groups observe, but they're not legally binding.
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Post by rat on Jul 22, 2017 13:02:20 GMT
There are lots of rules that different religious groups observe, but they're not legally binding. Precisely. There is no gambling in the UAE, right? Wrong, the western expat communities get together all over the city for poker nights. These are cultural behaviours, that occur behind closed doors. You can't stop that. But the suggestion of an alternate legal system operating in the UK is just pathetic, but why doesn't it surprise me when some of the usual numskulls on here are constantly trying to assert that point?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 22, 2017 13:03:22 GMT
There are lots of rules that different religious groups observe, but they're not legally binding. They are to them. They disregard UK law in favour, whether voluntary or not, to follow their own religious law.
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