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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 24, 2017 19:23:27 GMT
Can go several ways that group so could be very interesting.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 24, 2017 20:15:38 GMT
I havent watched the documentary so ill ask - did they force a law through somehow which made womens football illegal? Was it a prison worthy crime? If it was just the FA not allowing it to be played on "mens" pitches, and it was better attended then the mens game at the time, why couldnt they form their own grass roots league as the mens game had to do 60 odd years earlier with no infrastructure in place? They did the typical FA thing of (not telling the women they couldn't play) but threatening any FA affiliated grounds such as football league clubs that they would get fined if they allowed women to play on their pitches. The women were then forced to play on park pitches which couldn't accommodate the 60,000 crowds they were getting and the game fizzled out. Shocking really. Spot on. It's also important to remember that those were different times and women didn't have many of the rights that we do now. This was a time when women over 30 had only just got the right to vote but women between 21 and 30 (presumably the age of many of the footballers) would have to wait a few more years for something we now regard as a basic right. It was a pretty patriarchal society back then, men were the breadwinners, women took care of the house and had very little access to money of their own. If men didn't trust these women to vote there's no way they would have been able to muster the support and financial backing to form their own league and build their own grounds. The fact the ban remained in place for 50 years shows how long it took for attitudes to change enough for women to finally get back onto FA pitches. I'm not the type of woman who cries sexism when an equally qualified man beats me in a job interview or something daft like that but what the FA did is pretty disgusting. I love football, I've always loved football and it makes me happy that girls playing today can shout 'Taylor' or 'Morgan' if they want to when they score on the playground rather than 'Kane' or 'Messi'. It's nice that little girls can dream of playing at Wembley one day knowing that it might actually come true. If you don't enjoy the women's game then fair play, that's up to you, there are plenty of sports I'm not a fan of either. But it's taken a heck of a lot of work to get women's footie to the stage we're at now, so please cut us some slack if we get a little overprotective and defensive at times. TL/DR: Women love footie too, if you don't like it that's fine but please try not to be an arse about it
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Post by blackpoolred on Jul 24, 2017 20:23:52 GMT
Great effort from the girls, but they need to take a good look at that game and look at what can be improved on, they need to practice putting their foot on the ball, shielding the ball and learning how to pass and move, lot's of the basics. We humped it every time we got the ball, lots of wild swinging at the ball when they could have trapped it or controlled with their chest, there was just no need to concede that amount of possession. Incredible energy and fitness though, they were pressing stronger in the last 10 minutes than they were in the 1st - who said you can't play a pressing game for 90 minutes. The football does remind me of someone who once managed Stoke though, if the England manager comes out in a baseball cap in the next game then that is all the proof we need
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Post by Kilo on Jul 24, 2017 21:06:36 GMT
Great effort from the girls, but they need to take a good look at that game and look at what can be improved on, they need to practice putting their foot on the ball, shielding the ball and learning how to pass and move, lot's of the basics. We humped it every time we got the ball, lots of wild swinging at the ball when they could have trapped it or controlled with their chest, there was just no need to concede that amount of possession. Incredible energy and fitness though, they were pressing stronger in the last 10 minutes than they were in the 1st - who said you can't play a pressing game for 90 minutes. The football does remind me of someone who once managed Stoke though, if the England manager comes out in a baseball cap in the next game then that is all the proof we need I think that was a bit of panic against the Spannish though, they did all of the above against Scotland and looked very good indeed. Ultimately they won 2-0 so the tactics were right on the night but equally, if the offside goal was correctly given I think it would have been a comfortable win because at that point they were playing free flowing passing football.
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Post by Gods on Jul 26, 2017 1:21:24 GMT
They did the typical FA thing of (not telling the women they couldn't play) but threatening any FA affiliated grounds such as football league clubs that they would get fined if they allowed women to play on their pitches. The women were then forced to play on park pitches which couldn't accommodate the 60,000 crowds they were getting and the game fizzled out. Shocking really. Spot on. It's also important to remember that those were different times and women didn't have many of the rights that we do now. This was a time when women over 30 had only just got the right to vote but women between 21 and 30 (presumably the age of many of the footballers) would have to wait a few more years for something we now regard as a basic right. It was a pretty patriarchal society back then, men were the breadwinners, women took care of the house and had very little access to money of their own. If men didn't trust these women to vote there's no way they would have been able to muster the support and financial backing to form their own league and build their own grounds. The fact the ban remained in place for 50 years shows how long it took for attitudes to change enough for women to finally get back onto FA pitches. I'm not the type of woman who cries sexism when an equally qualified man beats me in a job interview or something daft like that but what the FA did is pretty disgusting. I love football, I've always loved football and it makes me happy that girls playing today can shout 'Taylor' or 'Morgan' if they want to when they score on the playground rather than 'Kane' or 'Messi'. It's nice that little girls can dream of playing at Wembley one day knowing that it might actually come true. If you don't enjoy the women's game then fair play, that's up to you, there are plenty of sports I'm not a fan of either. But it's taken a heck of a lot of work to get women's footie to the stage we're at now, so please cut us some slack if we get a little overprotective and defensive at times. TL/DR: Women love footie too, if you don't like it that's fine but please try not to be an arse about it The girls look the part now, physically I mean, lean and muscular, fast and agile, a great advert for their profession.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 26, 2017 19:32:37 GMT
The opponent for the quarter final will be decided tonight, at half time France - tournament favourites - are losing and the dark horses Switzerland are looking to top the group. As it stands and if we don't mess it up against Portugal then we will be playing Austria. That sounds good to me.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 26, 2017 20:38:17 GMT
Switz vs France was a cracking winner takes all game. France go through, and look like our opponents as it stands.
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Post by stokiemarc on Jul 26, 2017 22:01:22 GMT
Switz vs France was a cracking winner takes all game. France go through, and look like our opponents as it stands. What awful goalkeeping for the French equaliser. In fact probably up there with the biggest GK howlers ever.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 18:49:44 GMT
England on CH4 now
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 18:55:54 GMT
England 1 0 up with 10 changes to team
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 19:06:17 GMT
1 1 bad refing again
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Post by madnellie on Jul 27, 2017 19:29:36 GMT
Scotland have taken the lead against Spain!
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 27, 2017 19:31:29 GMT
Scotland have taken the lead, stranger things have happened. But not too many.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 19:51:01 GMT
what a goal England 2 1
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 19:54:21 GMT
Paris might have got us a game with France
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jul 27, 2017 20:05:46 GMT
Paris might have got us a game with France . . . . . . to quote the commentator on Channel4!
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Post by lordb on Jul 27, 2017 21:06:25 GMT
Another win. Better attacking performance
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 27, 2017 21:36:45 GMT
Spot on. It's also important to remember that those were different times and women didn't have many of the rights that we do now. This was a time when women over 30 had only just got the right to vote but women between 21 and 30 (presumably the age of many of the footballers) would have to wait a few more years for something we now regard as a basic right. It was a pretty patriarchal society back then, men were the breadwinners, women took care of the house and had very little access to money of their own. If men didn't trust these women to vote there's no way they would have been able to muster the support and financial backing to form their own league and build their own grounds. The fact the ban remained in place for 50 years shows how long it took for attitudes to change enough for women to finally get back onto FA pitches. I'm not the type of woman who cries sexism when an equally qualified man beats me in a job interview or something daft like that but what the FA did is pretty disgusting. I love football, I've always loved football and it makes me happy that girls playing today can shout 'Taylor' or 'Morgan' if they want to when they score on the playground rather than 'Kane' or 'Messi'. It's nice that little girls can dream of playing at Wembley one day knowing that it might actually come true. If you don't enjoy the women's game then fair play, that's up to you, there are plenty of sports I'm not a fan of either. But it's taken a heck of a lot of work to get women's footie to the stage we're at now, so please cut us some slack if we get a little overprotective and defensive at times. TL/DR: Women love footie too, if you don't like it that's fine but please try not to be an arse about it The girls look the part now, physically I mean, lean and muscular, fast and agile, a great advert for their profession. I watched some of the games , I'm amazed how much the women's game has improved since I last saw a match
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 27, 2017 21:39:22 GMT
At last an England senior team to be proud of. Not worried about their hair-dos in case Nivea cancel their contract. Not worried about getting injured in case "Pep" sticks them in the reserves for 6 long months. No over-the-top-commercials spinning balls around airport lounges in the name of a soft drink. Carry on like this and we may have something to watch on Tele Sunday week.
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Post by Northy on Jul 29, 2017 16:06:26 GMT
netherlands v sweden just started on eurosport
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Post by madnellie on Jul 29, 2017 17:11:37 GMT
netherlands v sweden just started on eurosport Just got home in time for second half. Have a feeling this one might end up going to extra time, if Sweden can actually finish their chances that is, having just seen that one go over the bar!!
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Post by madnellie on Jul 29, 2017 17:21:44 GMT
I take it back. The Dutch should have this now.
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Post by Northy on Jul 29, 2017 17:45:16 GMT
I take it back. The Dutch should have this now. yep, been the better team
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Post by madnellie on Jul 29, 2017 17:46:40 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jul 29, 2017 17:55:46 GMT
Assuming Hope Solo is Han Solo's daughter is a very good joke. And she does look very attractive in a 'don't mess with me' kind of a way!
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Post by Gods on Jul 29, 2017 18:01:52 GMT
On a more serious note what is the story with Mark Sampson's haircut? I can't decide if he is trying to look like he is 'down with the kids' or if someone has taken him out for the day Doh - can't get the picture to upload!
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Post by madnellie on Jul 29, 2017 18:06:52 GMT
On a more serious note what is the story with Mark Sampson's haircut? I can't decide if he is trying to look like he is 'down with the kids' or if someone has taken him out for the day Arnie hasn't really gone to West Ham, he's now making his living as a hairstyle makeover expert (kind of like Gok Wan, only slightly more camp with added gestures and pouting). Obviously I just made that up but it's the only reasonable explanation for whatever THAT is on Sampson's head. Edit: To be fair Gods, if folk are in this thread they've probably already witnessed it. I know his hairdon't is already burned into my retinas. What has been seen cannot be unseen.
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Post by Gods on Jul 29, 2017 18:19:42 GMT
On a more serious note what is the story with Mark Sampson's haircut? I can't decide if he is trying to look like he is 'down with the kids' or if someone has taken him out for the day Arnie hasn't really gone to West Ham, he's now making his living as a hairstyle makeover expert (kind of like Gok Wan, only slightly more camp with added gestures and pouting). Obviously I just made that up but it's the only reasonable explanation for whatever THAT is on Sampson's head. Edit: To be fair Gods, if folk are in this thread they've probably already witnessed it. I know his hairdon't is already burned into my retinas. What has been seen cannot be unseen. Hairdon't, I like it! The girls must have given Mark some ribbing when he first walked in with it, I mean you couldn't just all ignore it and pretend it wasn't there
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Post by Northy on Jul 29, 2017 18:56:08 GMT
will this Germany v Denmark game go ahead? Absolutely pissing it down in Rotterdam, scraping water off the pitch and baling out the dugouts with buckets
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Post by madnellie on Jul 29, 2017 19:06:00 GMT
will this Germany v Denmark game go ahead? Absolutely pissing it down in Rotterdam, scraping water off the pitch and baling out the dugouts with buckets Why on earth is the guy bailing out the dugouts throwing the water right next to him so it just rolls back into the dugouts? Hahaha, well having seen that girl just fall on her arse I don't think we'll be seeing a game.
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