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Post by Northy on Jul 19, 2017 19:15:26 GMT
England v Scotland on channel 4 now, England 2 up after 25 minutes, always good to get one over the jocks at anything
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jul 19, 2017 19:18:23 GMT
3-0 after half an hour.
It's men against boys.
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Post by Northy on Jul 19, 2017 19:46:35 GMT
England one of the favourites to win the tournament, France and Germany will be there or thereabouts as well
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 19:55:24 GMT
Nice finish.
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Post by Matthews dad on Jul 19, 2017 20:05:42 GMT
Not a great standard is it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 20:14:30 GMT
Not a great standard is it That Toni Duggan is a high standard 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 20:29:56 GMT
Nobbs in the box!
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Post by bigcashprizes on Jul 19, 2017 21:19:38 GMT
Not a great standard is it Bollocks! The fourth and fifth goals were awesome
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 19, 2017 21:24:30 GMT
Who cares
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2017 21:28:42 GMT
Not a great standard is it Bollocks! The fourth and fifth goals were awesome The fifth was good technique but what was the keeper doing? As soon as ball loops up you get to the middle of the goal and set yourself. Instead she left 3 quarters of the goal empty to hit the ball into. I really liked the final goal but again the keeper messes up. She should absolutely smash the England player and the ball.
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Post by zigazaga on Jul 19, 2017 21:29:00 GMT
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Post by philb on Jul 19, 2017 22:03:35 GMT
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Jul 19, 2017 22:22:38 GMT
enjoyed it
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Post by Wizbit on Jul 19, 2017 22:25:26 GMT
Not a bad watch to be fair......weakest part of women's football is definitely the keepers tho
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 19, 2017 22:52:56 GMT
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Post by madnellie on Jul 20, 2017 7:24:13 GMT
Me too. Nice to see people playing for the love of the game and pride in the shirt, a refreshing change from the money grabbing greed we see too often in the Prem these days. I don't know what people expect for the standard considering most of these players have only recently turned professional, but the Lionesses played much better football today than some of the crap we churned out last season and if you can't appreciate the quality of some of the goals then that's your loss. The "oh it's the women so it must be shit" mentality some folk on here display is baffling and petty minded, if you don't like it don't watch it and don't bother opening threads related to it. Let those of us that enjoy watching our national team do us proud at a major tournament enjoy it, and go take the unwarranted spitefulness elsewhere.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 20, 2017 7:30:09 GMT
Bollocks! The fourth and fifth goals were awesome The fifth was good technique but what was the keeper doing? As soon as ball loops up you get to the middle of the goal and set yourself. Instead she left 3 quarters of the goal empty to hit the ball into. I really liked the final goal but again the keeper messes up. She should absolutely smash the England player and the ball. She wasn't very convincing at all was she Bayern? It's one area where the women's game needs to improve in my opinion - there is an absolute dearth of good, female goalkeepers out there. Would have been a slighter closer game if Kimmy Little had been fit and playing for Scotland I think, I've watched her play a lot for club and country and she's an absolutely incredible little player, probably the best female player I've seen.
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Post by Northy on Jul 20, 2017 7:33:03 GMT
obviously you care enough to open the thread and post ! Why bother, I presume it's just sad and pathetic attention seeking.
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Post by bigcashprizes on Jul 20, 2017 8:04:18 GMT
A jolly warm welcome to 2017 Sir! As well as women having the temerity to play football, there's also been a black president, olympics for cripples and on top of that - some soft twat decided to let the gays get married. What a world we live in
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 20, 2017 8:30:32 GMT
The fifth was good technique but what was the keeper doing? As soon as ball loops up you get to the middle of the goal and set yourself. Instead she left 3 quarters of the goal empty to hit the ball into. I really liked the final goal but again the keeper messes up. She should absolutely smash the England player and the ball. She wasn't very convincing at all was she Bayern? It's one area where the women's game needs to improve in my opinion - there is an absolute dearth of good, female goalkeepers out there. Would have been a slighter closer game if Kimmy Little had been fit and playing for Scotland I think, I've watched her play a lot for club and country and she's an absolutely incredible little player, probably the best female player I've seen. There really is and they seem to struggle with the basics too. And I'm not sure what it is. A lot of them are now pro so there's no excuse there and they will be getting good coaching.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 20, 2017 8:48:21 GMT
She wasn't very convincing at all was she Bayern? It's one area where the women's game needs to improve in my opinion - there is an absolute dearth of good, female goalkeepers out there. Would have been a slighter closer game if Kimmy Little had been fit and playing for Scotland I think, I've watched her play a lot for club and country and she's an absolutely incredible little player, probably the best female player I've seen. There really is and they seem to struggle with the basics too. And I'm not sure what it is. A lot of them are now pro so there's no excuse there and they will be getting good coaching. It's very strange. I know some of the Scottish team are still part time so it could be that their keeper is too, but even so you would think that they would have good enough coaches to teach them to master the basics at least.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2017 8:53:59 GMT
She wasn't very convincing at all was she Bayern? It's one area where the women's game needs to improve in my opinion - there is an absolute dearth of good, female goalkeepers out there. Would have been a slighter closer game if Kimmy Little had been fit and playing for Scotland I think, I've watched her play a lot for club and country and she's an absolutely incredible little player, probably the best female player I've seen. There really is and they seem to struggle with the basics too. And I'm not sure what it is. A lot of them are now pro so there's no excuse there and they will be getting good coaching. It's probably an issue of critical mass. Goalkeeper is probably the hardest position to play - and either you're good at it or you're not and if you're not there's no-where to go.(as in if you're an outfield player you can be a crap striker but still make it as a decent left back). Generally - As a kid you start playing football and the crap ones get put in goal - if there's enough people playing some of them will eventually turn out to be decent - and also some outfield players will become goalkeepers as they realize playing outfield they won't get picked. I'm over-generalizing but I guess there is still a bit of that in women's football - but as it's popularity grows then there will be more athletic women from the general population choosing to play it and standards will improve - it's just that goalkeeping will be the last discipline to do so. Hope Solo was as decent keeper though.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 20, 2017 9:10:42 GMT
There really is and they seem to struggle with the basics too. And I'm not sure what it is. A lot of them are now pro so there's no excuse there and they will be getting good coaching. It's probably an issue of critical mass. Goalkeeper is probably the hardest position to play - and either you're good at it or you're not and if you're not there's no-where to go.(as in if you're an outfield player you can be a crap striker but still make it as a decent left back). Generally - As a kid you start playing football and the crap ones get put in goal - if there's enough people playing some of them will eventually turn out to be decent - and also some outfield players will become goalkeepers as they realize playing outfield they won't get picked. I'm over-generalizing but I guess there is still a bit of that in women's football - but as it's popularity grows then there will be more athletic women from the general population choosing to play it and standards will improve - it's just that goalkeeping will be the last discipline to do so. Hope Solo was as decent keeper though. Totally agree with that. My rec (Sunday league) team play in a co-ed league and we are the only team with a female goalkeeper, they are a rare breed indeed! Solo is very decent and had had some truly spectacular games (and to prove your point, she actually began life as a forward with some success before moving between the sticks and really shining). Nadine Angerer (Germany) was also excellent, as is Emma Byrne (Ireland) and there are some other very solid, if (usually) unspectacular ones but I can't think of many teams (club or national) who have very much strength in depth when it comes to keepers. I agree that the future does look bright though, it's just taking the goalkeeping postition longer to catch up
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2017 9:30:17 GMT
It's probably an issue of critical mass. Goalkeeper is probably the hardest position to play - and either you're good at it or you're not and if you're not there's no-where to go.(as in if you're an outfield player you can be a crap striker but still make it as a decent left back). Generally - As a kid you start playing football and the crap ones get put in goal - if there's enough people playing some of them will eventually turn out to be decent - and also some outfield players will become goalkeepers as they realize playing outfield they won't get picked. I'm over-generalizing but I guess there is still a bit of that in women's football - but as it's popularity grows then there will be more athletic women from the general population choosing to play it and standards will improve - it's just that goalkeeping will be the last discipline to do so. Hope Solo was as decent keeper though. Totally agree with that. My rec (Sunday league) team play in a co-ed league and we are the only team with a female goalkeeper, they are a rare breed indeed! Solo is very decent and had had some truly spectacular games (and to prove your point, she actually began life as a forward with some success before moving between the sticks and really shining). Nadine Angerer (Germany) was also excellent, as is Emma Byrne (Ireland) and there are some other very solid, if (usually) unspectacular ones but I can't think of many teams (club or national) who have very much strength in depth when it comes to keepers. I agree that the future does look bright though, it's just taking the goalkeeping postition longer to catch up Hope's also bonkers - which is another requirement for being a decent keeper!!!
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Post by madnellie on Jul 20, 2017 9:36:08 GMT
Totally agree with that. My rec (Sunday league) team play in a co-ed league and we are the only team with a female goalkeeper, they are a rare breed indeed! Solo is very decent and had had some truly spectacular games (and to prove your point, she actually began life as a forward with some success before moving between the sticks and really shining). Nadine Angerer (Germany) was also excellent, as is Emma Byrne (Ireland) and there are some other very solid, if (usually) unspectacular ones but I can't think of many teams (club or national) who have very much strength in depth when it comes to keepers. I agree that the future does look bright though, it's just taking the goalkeeping postition longer to catch up Hope's also bonkers - which is another requirement for being a decent keeper!!! Haha is she ever! I think my favourite Hope moment is when she decided to go for a joyride in the USA team coach
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Post by adi on Jul 20, 2017 9:39:40 GMT
The standard of football is utterly dreadful tho but fair play to them it's what they want to do and good luck to them.
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 20, 2017 9:49:30 GMT
There really is and they seem to struggle with the basics too. And I'm not sure what it is. A lot of them are now pro so there's no excuse there and they will be getting good coaching. It's probably an issue of critical mass. Goalkeeper is probably the hardest position to play - and either you're good at it or you're not and if you're not there's no-where to go.(as in if you're an outfield player you can be a crap striker but still make it as a decent left back). Generally - As a kid you start playing football and the crap ones get put in goal - if there's enough people playing some of them will eventually turn out to be decent - and also some outfield players will become goalkeepers as they realize playing outfield they won't get picked. I'm over-generalizing but I guess there is still a bit of that in women's football - but as it's popularity grows then there will be more athletic women from the general population choosing to play it and standards will improve - it's just that goalkeeping will be the last discipline to do so. Hope Solo was as decent keeper though. Think there's a lot of truth in this. My daughter plays u10 (u11 next season). When the girls start playing they all want to play forward but will generally accept being rotated round defence & mf, but when you ask for volunteers to go in goal there's a deafening silence! And as girls' teams generally have fewer members than the boys you're less likely to get someone who has the aptitude and willingness to do it every week. Delighted to say my daughter decided she'd give it a go start of last season and she's been there ever since! But quite a few of the teams they play don't have a dedicated gk, they rotate several outfield players in to take a turn (usually the bigger ones). Another thing I've found is it's difficult to get specialised coaching for them at that level as it's usually Dads volunteering. The level of organisation and the coaching networks are just not as developed for girls teams yet, but as more and more girls take it up that should come.
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Post by greyman on Jul 20, 2017 9:50:00 GMT
Me too. Nice to see people playing for the love of the game and pride in the shirt, a refreshing change from the money grabbing greed we see too often in the Prem these days. I don't know what people expect for the standard considering most of these players have only recently turned professional, but the Lionesses played much better football today than some of the crap we churned out last season and if you can't appreciate the quality of some of the goals then that's your loss. The "oh it's the women so it must be shit" mentality some folk on here display is baffling and petty minded, if you don't like it don't watch it and don't bother opening threads related to it. Let those of us that enjoy watching our national team do us proud at a major tournament enjoy it, and go take the unwarranted spitefulness elsewhere. I agree with most of that but the tedious tendency for more and more people to compare it to the men's game needs to stop. There'd be an easy way to check if "the Lionesses played much better football today than some of the crap we churned out last season" and you could check it with the under 16 boys, never mind the first team. It's great that women's football is getting some attention, but cut it out with the comparisons with the men's game. They're two different things. www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australian-womens-national-team-lose-70-to-team-of-15yearold-boys-a3257266.htmlwww.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/
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Post by madnellie on Jul 20, 2017 10:30:21 GMT
Me too. Nice to see people playing for the love of the game and pride in the shirt, a refreshing change from the money grabbing greed we see too often in the Prem these days. I don't know what people expect for the standard considering most of these players have only recently turned professional, but the Lionesses played much better football today than some of the crap we churned out last season and if you can't appreciate the quality of some of the goals then that's your loss. The "oh it's the women so it must be shit" mentality some folk on here display is baffling and petty minded, if you don't like it don't watch it and don't bother opening threads related to it. Let those of us that enjoy watching our national team do us proud at a major tournament enjoy it, and go take the unwarranted spitefulness elsewhere. I agree with most of that but the tedious tendency for more and more people to compare it to the men's game needs to stop. There'd be an easy way to check if "the Lionesses played much better football today than some of the crap we churned out last season" and you could check it with the under 16 boys, never mind the first team. It's great that women's football is getting some attention, but cut it out with the comparisons with the men's game. They're two different things. www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australian-womens-national-team-lose-70-to-team-of-15yearold-boys-a3257266.htmlwww.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/I don't disagree, that was more me getting a bee in my bonnet in response to the people commenting on how rubbish the standard is without actually watching many games. It's all relative of course but I was trying to make the point (albeit clumsily) that women's football can be as entertaining (or not) as any other type of football. I probably should have said 'more entertaining football' rather than 'better football' to be fair.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2017 11:02:13 GMT
The standard of football is utterly dreadful tho but fair play to them it's what they want to do and good luck to them. If Berahino can learn to get in position and finish with the confidence that Jodie Taylor did last night (or follow up like Ellen White) then I think we might be a lot happier next season.
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