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Post by greyman on Jul 20, 2017 11:22:42 GMT
I don't disagree, that was more me getting a bee in my bonnet in response to the people commenting on how rubbish the standard is without actually watching many games. It's all relative of course but I was trying to make the point (albeit clumsily) that women's football can be as entertaining (or not) as any other type of football. I probably should have said 'more entertaining football' rather than 'better football' to be fair. That's fair enough. Any game can only be judged on its own merits. But I've seen loads of people on social media saying the women's teams could teach the men a thing or two. Maybe they could about some of their behaviour, but not in the game itself. Part of me wishes they'd just go ahead and do it, just to shut them up.  |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2017 11:54:14 GMT
I don't disagree, that was more me getting a bee in my bonnet in response to the people commenting on how rubbish the standard is without actually watching many games. It's all relative of course but I was trying to make the point (albeit clumsily) that women's football can be as entertaining (or not) as any other type of football. I probably should have said 'more entertaining football' rather than 'better football' to be fair. That's fair enough. Any game can only be judged on its own merits. But I've seen loads of people on social media saying the women's teams could teach the men a thing or two. Maybe they could about some of their behaviour, but not in the game itself. Part of me wishes they'd just go ahead and do it, just to shut them up. And "on it's own merits" is exactly the point. Just as Jess Ennis-Hill would get snottered if she competed in a decathlon or Jo Konta would probably not get into the top 250 men's rankings neither pointless comparisons stop the country getting behind them both when they are competing in international tournaments. Women's football is getting more professional in it's approach and association with men's clubs at this stage in it's development will only be for the betterment of the standard of the game overall. Also at this stage it would probably be fair to say the womens game is learning more from the mens game than vice versa. However it would be rather arrogant of the men's game to think that in time it won't learn a great deal back - if not necessarily in on field technique then certainly in terms of coaching, grassroots engagement, refereeing etc. |
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Post by adi on Jul 20, 2017 13:19:20 GMT
It is embarrassing suggesting that the standard is anywhere near as good as even conference men's football. Women cannot compete with men in football as with many other sports, to say it does like so many on twitter did yesterday makes people want to voice the fact that they can't compete. Best thing in hindsight is to let them have their leagues and competitions and not mention them in the same breath as the men's. At least it's provoked some debate on a forum so that's a god thing at least.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 20, 2017 13:37:24 GMT
And nobody seams to be gloating at the fact that we stuffed the scots  (apart from me that is) good game good skill by the lionesses hope they win it then that's just 1 trophy we have not won this year in international tournaments we have been in and we reached that final in that How about investing either of glens or johns money in trying to make our ladies team good enough for the women's supper league then going along and supporting them !! for little outlay we can have a great ladies team as well as a first team would definitely put us on the map as a family club |
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jul 20, 2017 13:55:40 GMT
Life is too short for womens football
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2017 14:37:49 GMT
Life is too short for womens football Yours obviously isn't if you can find the time to post on a thread about it. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 20, 2017 18:57:51 GMT
Just watching Holland v Denmark ...... and just found the next door neighbors niece is playing
Desiree van Lunteren she's called
I'm still admiring some of the minge sitting in the stands when the cameras pan round ..... complete 'troutfest'
HOLY MOLY!!!! 👍👍👍👍💋
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 23, 2017 18:48:51 GMT
England 1 0 spain 3 min
ch 4
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Post by madnellie on Jul 23, 2017 18:54:00 GMT
England 1 0 spain 3 min ch 4 Should have been 2-0. Lovely header by Bright, was never offside  Nice cool finish by Kirby though. |
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 23, 2017 18:57:50 GMT
the refereeing is bad , England look sharp
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2017 19:06:19 GMT
It is embarrassing suggesting that the standard is anywhere near as good as even conference men's football. Women cannot compete with men in football as with many other sports, to say it does like so many on twitter did yesterday makes people want to voice the fact that they can't compete. Best thing in hindsight is to let them have their leagues and competitions and not mention them in the same breath as the men's. At least it's provoked some debate on a forum so that's a god thing at least. Both men's and women's football can be watched enjoyed for what they are - different games played under the same rules. To say that "Women can't compete with men in football" is one of the more pointless comments about the two sports. A light weight boxer can't compete with a heavy weight boxer but that shouldn't and doesn't stop people watching and enjoying the lighter weight fighters as much as the heavier weights. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 23, 2017 19:07:01 GMT
A jolly warm welcome to 2017 Sir! As well as women having the temerity to play football, there's also been a black president, olympics for cripples and on top of that - some soft twat decided to let the gays get married. What a world we live in  I don't care about Women's football, just like I don't care about a lot of other sports e.g mens Rugby Union, Womens cricket, Athletics male or female, swimming etc etc. |
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Post by madnellie on Jul 23, 2017 19:08:31 GMT
the refereeing is bad , England look sharp The other bad thing about women's footie...the officiating tends to be awful. Fortunately it's improving but, like the goalkeeping it's taking a while! |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 23, 2017 19:13:43 GMT
A slight drizzle on the pitch now.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2017 19:13:59 GMT
A jolly warm welcome to 2017 Sir! As well as women having the temerity to play football, there's also been a black president, olympics for cripples and on top of that - some soft twat decided to let the gays get married. What a world we live in I don't care about Women's football, just like I don't care about a lot of other sports e.g mens Rugby Union, Womens cricket, Athletics male or female, swimming etc etc. Fair enough - so the answer to your question "who cares?" is "plenty of people but not you!" As a point of information, the world wide live TV audience for today's win by England over India in the Women's Cricket World Cup final is estimated to be 100 million. That's pretty impressive. |
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Post by stokienorthants on Jul 23, 2017 20:10:11 GMT
England under pressure from Spain but defending well. Will they swap shirts at the end of the game?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 20:16:10 GMT
WTF happened then over that "penalty" call? edit to say: Ref gave a pen against England for handball, come to it next time on the camera and Eng keeper was getting an uncontested drop ball  |
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Post by madnellie on Jul 23, 2017 20:18:24 GMT
WTF happened then over that "penalty" call? I have no clue. I mean, I don't think it should have been a penalty anyway but bloody hell ref, take your time and think before you point to the spot. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2017 20:18:50 GMT
WTF happened then over that "penalty" call? Bizarre. Couldn't have been an offside surely, not where the free kick was taken from. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 23, 2017 20:20:05 GMT
Did she kick it onto her arm and that changed the decision. ?
Must admit that was baffling.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 23, 2017 20:20:21 GMT
WTF happened then over that "penalty" call? Bizarre. Couldn't have been an offside surely, not where the free kick was taken from. She gave a penalty for a handball by Taylor (totally accidentally, never a penalty in my opinion)) then changed her mind and gave a dropped ball instead. So bizarre! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 20:20:38 GMT
only thing I can even think of is that the ref changed her mind after input from lino/4th official?
she interrupted play, so is the rule that you can only start with a drop ball?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 20:22:32 GMT
It is embarrassing suggesting that the standard is anywhere near as good as even conference men's football. Women cannot compete with men in football as with many other sports, to say it does like so many on twitter did yesterday makes people want to voice the fact that they can't compete. Best thing in hindsight is to let them have their leagues and competitions and not mention them in the same breath as the men's. At least it's provoked some debate on a forum so that's a god thing at least. I've played against English and Dutch female players, the standard really isn't great, but I have no problem with them playing/competing. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2017 20:23:05 GMT
only thing I can even think of is that the ref changed her mind after input from lino/4th official? she interrupted play, so is the rule that you can only start with a drop ball? I suppose that is the only explanation. I did think the penalty was harsh (given that it was in no way deliberate) and so must the 4th official |
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 23, 2017 20:25:57 GMT
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 2 0 |
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Post by madnellie on Jul 23, 2017 20:26:14 GMT
Thatta girl Jodie!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 20:26:30 GMT
undeserved, but decent finish. Taylor runs herself into the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 20:30:52 GMT
Potter and Stokes on for England !
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2017 20:37:23 GMT
Great defending.
Our keeper didn't have a proper save to make.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 23, 2017 20:41:02 GMT
Absolutely fine with women's footy just think it ridiculously agenda-driven to force it into the mainstream - BBC mainly, who ironically don't think they need to be paying female sports presenters anywhere near what they pay that smug, jug-eared corporate whore Line-acre - I make no effort to watch it for free never mind going to watch a match - it's just piss poor and terminally amateur (to me) - each to their own of course......
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(apart from me that is) 
