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Post by crapslinger on Mar 18, 2019 18:23:27 GMT
No, the car belongs to his wife. Should men control women’s views? The Speaker is following our constitution. That’s all. There are ways around it if May wants. In his position of responsibility he should know enough not to drive around with that on any car, whether it’s his wife’s or not. Whatever his personal view on Brexit, and it’s pretty obvious which way he leans, he has to at least try and remain professional and give the impression of balance. Imagine if a family law court judge drove around in his wife’s car sporting a Fathers for Justice sticker......words would be had and they would be quite rightly reigned in because it sews the seeds of mistrust and doubt amongst all parties. He's not impartial which is a pre requisite for the position, how is he still in the job no wonder we have no faith in politics
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 18, 2019 18:25:04 GMT
In his position of responsibility he should know enough not to drive around with that on any car, whether it’s his wife’s or not. Whatever his personal view on Brexit, and it’s pretty obvious which way he leans, he has to at least try and remain professional and give the impression of balance. Imagine c if a family law court judge drove around in his wife’s car sporting a Fathers for Justice sticker......words would be had and they would be quite rightly reigned in because it sews the seeds of mistrust and doubt amongst all parties. It doesn't matter, mate. Anything goes for Brexit. I wish the cunts would move our goalposts as much; we'd be top of the league. We'd be in the Champions League final by now, bunch of backsliding shysters, they are that crooked they couldn't lie straight in bed.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 18, 2019 18:32:45 GMT
That's the same Speaker who drives around with a 'Bollocks to Brexit' sticker on his car, right? No, the car belongs to his wife. Should men control women’s views? The Speaker is following our constitution. That’s all. There are ways around it if May wants. John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, is facing claims of bullying after it was alleged that his former private secretary left his office because of his overbearing behaviour.
A BBC Newsnight investigation claimed Kate Emms, who became Mr Bercow's private secretary in May 2010, was "signed off " in February 2011 because of his "bullying behaviour".
Colleagues of Ms Emms told the BBC that she was "undermined" by Mr Bercow and that he often shouted at her.
Seems so are you sure you are a solicitor
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 18, 2019 18:38:38 GMT
No, the car belongs to his wife. Should men control women’s views? The Speaker is following our constitution. That’s all. There are ways around it if May wants. John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, is facing claims of bullying after it was alleged that his former private secretary left his office because of his overbearing behaviour.
A BBC Newsnight investigation claimed Kate Emms, who became Mr Bercow's private secretary in May 2010, was "signed off " in February 2011 because of his "bullying behaviour".
Colleagues of Ms Emms told the BBC that she was "undermined" by Mr Bercow and that he often shouted at her.
Seems so
All that will be forgiven, mate. All that matters is stopping Brexit.
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Post by yeokel on Mar 18, 2019 19:06:39 GMT
That's the same Speaker who drives around with a 'Bollocks to Brexit' sticker on his car, right? No, the car belongs to his wife. Should men control women’s views?. Is there any other way?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 18, 2019 19:12:27 GMT
They'll end up staying in, either by scrapping Brexit altogether or staying in the Customs Union and single market, which isn't leaving.
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Post by yeokel on Mar 18, 2019 19:17:31 GMT
Is there any way around Bercow's decision or has he effectively killed May's deal once and for all ? Where does this leave any form of Brexit ? Or have the Remainer M.P.'s finally got their way ? His motive for making the decision he has might be questioned but in reality there is not a lot wrong with what he said. You cannot simply keep bringing back the same resolution time after time after time until people are so worn down that they vote for it out of weariness. I appreciate that that is the EU way to do things but we should not waste Parliamentary time on that. Nor should we adopt the EU way of winning a popular vote.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 18, 2019 19:29:18 GMT
For me I'm pleased that ( hopefully) there isn't a vote on May's deal simply because it is not BREXIT. Also it exposes her disgraceful tactic of trying to bully MPs into backing her deal with threats ( accompanied by bribes to others). No way to run a country. It also forces the " government" to show their true colours......she always said that no deal is better than a bad deal.....that implies that a bad deal is acceptable.....as things stand that's what we are heading for....if she now tries to delay/ cancel BREXIT, have an extension, it shows her true intentions....I'd rather fight that....at least the public will recognise what she is doing... indefensible because at the very least she has had nearly 3 years to prepare for leaving and s few days before is forced to say " we are not ready" ... even if you believed that she was negotiating in good faith...her achievements show that she is totally invomprtent. If she did achieve an extension she would also have to immediately resign in my opinion. Also we are told that business wants certainty.. that can only be achieved by a no deal BREXIT( and that certainty will not be Armageddon)
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Post by yeokel on Mar 18, 2019 19:49:18 GMT
For me I'm pleased that ( hopefully) there isn't a vote on May's deal simply because it is not BREXIT. Also it exposes her disgraceful tactic of trying to bully MPs into backing her deal with threats ( accompanied by bribes to others). No way to run a country. One of the truest things ever said on this forum. This is no way to run a country. She cannot run this country, Corbyn cannot run this country, the Liberals certainly cannot run this country, the SNP cannot run this country, the EU must never run this country, something has to change. I do not have the answer to what has to change or how it must change but surely we can never go through this again? Perhaps ‘change is coming’ after all.
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Post by pearo on Mar 18, 2019 20:04:45 GMT
The Eu won’t give the UK an extension period, Bercow has stopped a vote on the same old deal, 11 more days and we are legally bound to be out.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 18, 2019 20:14:48 GMT
Is there any way around Bercow's decision or has he effectively killed May's deal once and for all ? Where does this leave any form of Brexit ? Or have the Remainer M.P.'s finally got their way ? His motive for making the decision he has might be questioned but in reality there is not a lot wrong with what he said. You cannot simply keep bringing back the same resolution time after time after time until people are so worn down that they vote for it out of weariness. I appreciate that that is the EU way to do things but we should not waste Parliamentary time on that. Nor should we adopt the EU way of winning a popular vote. But that's what the remaniacs want us to do with the referendum, let's have another till the racist bastards get it right on and on and on and on, we should pull the plug and exit on the 29th March as stated in article 50 which those so called MP's voted for.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 18, 2019 20:15:32 GMT
The Eu won’t give the UK an extension period, Bercow has stopped a vote on the same old deal, 11 more days and we are legally bound to be out. Unfortunately Pearo I think that they might because the last thing that they want is Brexit, which is what ' no deal' is. I hope I am wrong, but we'll see. Either way I think that the true intentions of the EU/ political class has been exposed.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 18, 2019 20:56:37 GMT
The Eu won’t give the UK an extension period, Bercow has stopped a vote on the same old deal, 11 more days and we are legally bound to be out. Another scenario could be that the EU offer a last minute " concession" ( Northern Ireland border?) and then the deal ( treaty) can be put back to Parliament as there has been a significant ( cough cough) change.....a majority of MPs then get behind it ( in other words Bercow, the Remainer, is playing his part in the strategy)...…if this was the case hopefully the " anti May deal MPs" will continue to oppose , knowing that to do so would mean a no deal BREXIT
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Post by chad on Mar 18, 2019 21:06:41 GMT
Is there any way around Bercow's decision or has he effectively killed May's deal once and for all ? Where does this leave any form of Brexit ? Or have the Remainer M.P.'s finally got their way ? Apparently the rule only applies in one session. There is a way of ending the current session and starting a new one then the vote can be held again. According to BBC
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Post by John Smiths Upper Fan on Mar 18, 2019 21:08:20 GMT
If this does go to an extension vote each current EU member nation has to agree. Even 1 disagreeing is enough to end the negotiation can anybody see every nation agreeing to this?
I can't personally and surely then we're heading for a no deal Brexit.
Will the government allow it to get that far I'm not so sure. I'm convinced as above a third vote on another botched Theresa deal will happen before then.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2019 21:20:05 GMT
Is there any way around Bercow's decision or has he effectively killed May's deal once and for all ? Where does this leave any form of Brexit ? Or have the Remainer M.P.'s finally got their way ? May's deal being dead is nothing to do with Bercow. He's simply saving the trouble and money of the deal being voted down a third time. What is the point of putting everybody through that again. He's doing us all (including the PM) a favour MPs who are complaining should have voted for it the 1st or 2nd time....It hasn't changed . MPs all agreed the Bill needs to be substantially different...now over to you PM!
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 18, 2019 21:22:22 GMT
In his position of responsibility he should know enough not to drive around with that on any car, whether it’s his wife’s or not. Whatever his personal view on Brexit, and it’s pretty obvious which way he leans, he has to at least try and remain professional and give the impression of balance. Imagine c if a family law court judge drove around in his wife’s car sporting a Fathers for Justice sticker......words would be had and they would be quite rightly reigned in because it sews the seeds of mistrust and doubt amongst all parties. It doesn't matter, mate. Anything goes for Brexit. I wish the cunts would move our goalposts as much; we'd be top of the league. Only if they moved them to our own box
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 18, 2019 21:24:19 GMT
The irony is most of those routes are almost always delayed would anyone notice?
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 18, 2019 21:30:57 GMT
The Eu won’t give the UK an extension period, Bercow has stopped a vote on the same old deal, 11 more days and we are legally bound to be out. Bercow is the parliamentary version of VAR
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Post by salopstick on Mar 18, 2019 21:41:02 GMT
The Eu won’t give the UK an extension period, Bercow has stopped a vote on the same old deal, 11 more days and we are legally bound to be out. Bercow is the parliamentary version of VAR At swansea
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 18, 2019 22:05:00 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 18, 2019 22:09:29 GMT
No, the car belongs to his wife. Should men control women’s views? The Speaker is following our constitution. That’s all. There are ways around it if May wants. In his position of responsibility he should know enough not to drive around with that on any car, whether it’s his wife’s or not. Whatever his personal view on Brexit, and it’s pretty obvious which way he leans, he has to at least try and remain professional and give the impression of balance. Imagine if a family law court judge drove around in his wife’s car sporting a Fathers for Justice sticker......words would be had and they would be quite rightly reigned in because it sews the seeds of mistrust and doubt amongst all parties. No they would not be reigned in. As long as the judgments the judge gave followed the law a judge’s personal views are irrelevant. The same applies to the Speaker of the HoC. His ruling today has pushed us closer to a hard brexit as we are days away without the get out of May’s deal. Flies in te face of the sticker.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 18, 2019 22:11:30 GMT
No, the car belongs to his wife. Should men control women’s views? The Speaker is following our constitution. That’s all. There are ways around it if May wants. John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, is facing claims of bullying after it was alleged that his former private secretary left his office because of his overbearing behaviour.
A BBC Newsnight investigation claimed Kate Emms, who became Mr Bercow's private secretary in May 2010, was "signed off " in February 2011 because of his "bullying behaviour".
Colleagues of Ms Emms told the BBC that she was "undermined" by Mr Bercow and that he often shouted at her.
Seems so are you sure you are a solicitor
How does your post about the bullying relate in the slightest to whether or not Bercow has followed our constitution today?
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Post by auntiegeorge on Mar 19, 2019 6:05:24 GMT
For once, the son of an Essex taxi driver who likes to sound like Sir John Geilgud has done the right thing.
Other than that he has been the worst Speaker in living memory.
I hope this leads to a no deal Brexit.
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 19, 2019 6:21:39 GMT
For once, the son of an Essex taxi driver who likes to sound like Sir John Geilgud has done the right thing. Other than that he has been the worst Speaker in living memory. I hope this leads to a no deal Brexit. Order!
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 19, 2019 6:36:58 GMT
For once, the son of an Essex taxi driver who likes to sound like Sir John Geilgud has done the right thing. Other than that he has been the worst Speaker in living memory. I hope this leads to a no deal Brexit. Order!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 19, 2019 6:37:41 GMT
The Eu won’t give the UK an extension period, Bercow has stopped a vote on the same old deal, 11 more days and we are legally bound to be out. Another scenario could be that the EU offer a last minute " concession" ( Northern Ireland border?) and then the deal ( treaty) can be put back to Parliament as there has been a significant ( cough cough) change.....a majority of MPs then get behind it ( in other words Bercow, the Remainer, is playing his part in the strategy)...…if this was the case hopefully the " anti May deal MPs" will continue to oppose , knowing that to do so would mean a no deal BREXIT Bercow is a fool. It’s not the same deal that was voted down last week because "no deal" has now been taken out of the proposition. Bercow should pay attention to what’s happening in the House or go and be a stand up comedian where he can make more people laugh at him.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 19, 2019 7:23:32 GMT
John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, is facing claims of bullying after it was alleged that his former private secretary left his office because of his overbearing behaviour.
A BBC Newsnight investigation claimed Kate Emms, who became Mr Bercow's private secretary in May 2010, was "signed off " in February 2011 because of his "bullying behaviour".
Colleagues of Ms Emms told the BBC that she was "undermined" by Mr Bercow and that he often shouted at her.
Seems so are you sure you are a solicitor
How does your post about the bullying relate in the slightest to whether or not Bercow has followed our constitution today? Should men control women’s views?
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Post by henry on Mar 19, 2019 7:26:53 GMT
If this does go to an extension vote each current EU member nation has to agree. Even 1 disagreeing is enough to end the negotiation can anybody see every nation agreeing to this? I can't personally and surely then we're heading for a no deal Brexit. Will the government allow it to get that far I'm not so sure. I'm convinced as above a third vote on another botched Theresa deal will happen before then. If Britain will come to heel over leaving, I think member states will come to heel over voting.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 19, 2019 8:54:13 GMT
Loads of criticism of Bercow today. As if he got us into this mess.
What about a bit towards the PM for not knowing the laws of the land she supposed to be governing. It's not like she hasn't got loads of advisors being paid loads of money to know these things.
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