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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 19:44:59 GMT
What do you mean, “do I do adverts”? “Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a "mistake" to promise that £350million a week would be spent on the NHS if the UK backed a Brexit vote”. OK, I was £10m out. What I think Follow is saying is that Farage had nothing to do with the bus slogan ( which didn't promise £350 m to the NHS) and he is correct OK fair enough, whether it was Farage, or Boris, or whoever, it was promised, and was a lie.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 13, 2019 19:50:46 GMT
What I think Follow is saying is that Farage had nothing to do with the bus slogan ( which didn't promise £350 m to the NHS) and he is correct OK fair enough, whether it was Farage, or Boris, or whoever, it was promised, and was a lie. It didn't actually promise anything. It made the general point that we are net contributors to the EU and we could decide for ourselves how to spend our own money....do you think it is a good Idea to give away the money of basic rate taxpayers to let others in the remote Brussels to decide how to spend it?
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 13, 2019 19:56:14 GMT
I hate Farage but he never made a £360m pledge in fact he said it was not true. Do you do adverts ? What do you mean, “do I do adverts”? “Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a "mistake" to promise that £350million a week would be spent on the NHS if the UK backed a Brexit vote”. OK, I was £10m out. Remain ran an advert recently with an ex leave voter claiming to be from Stoke who they said had changed his mind and wanted to remain turned out it was a lie funnily enough.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 13, 2019 19:56:39 GMT
What I think Follow is saying is that Farage had nothing to do with the bus slogan ( which didn't promise £350 m to the NHS) and he is correct OK fair enough, whether it was Farage, or Boris, or whoever, it was promised, and was a lie. It wasn’t promised at all....that assumption is a remainers take on the advert. It actually said "We send the EU £350m a week. Let’s fund our NHS instead. Vote Leave." To most people that advert was saying we would have £350m to spend on our own public services and it cites the NHS as an example of who could benefit. But let’s not allow common sense to get in the way of a good Brexit bashing again.
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Post by Northy on Mar 13, 2019 19:56:58 GMT
We've already had this vote. 'Leave' won by well over ONE MILLION votes. Please convince me asto why: 1. We need to have this vote again? 2. If 'Leave' wins (again) why should we believe it will be respected it this time? I’d back a new referendum, and I voted Leave. Now that all of the facts are on the table, we now understand that our Government can not / will never deliver a satisfactory Brexit, we know know that Nigel’s £360m NHS pledge was utter bollocks, etc etc. I was swayed in the end, by listening to Sir Anthony Bamford talk about how much better things will be after we leave the EU, quickly followed by Lord Digby Jones saying the same. That was enough to get me off the fence. This time around, my opinion would I think be “better the devil you know”, and I’d vote Remain, however that was presented. But you don't know what the devil has in store for us in the future
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Post by dexta on Mar 13, 2019 19:57:05 GMT
We've already had this vote. 'Leave' won by well over ONE MILLION votes. Please convince me asto why: 1. We need to have this vote again? 2. If 'Leave' wins (again) why should we believe it will be respected it this time? I’d back a new referendum, and I voted Leave. Now that all of the facts are on the table, we now understand that our Government can not / will never deliver a satisfactory Brexit, we know know that Nigel’s £360m NHS pledge was utter bollocks, etc etc. I was swayed in the end, by listening to Sir Anthony Bamford talk about how much better things will be after we leave the EU, quickly followed by Lord Digby Jones saying the same. That was enough to get me off the fence. This time around, my opinion would I think be “better the devil you know”, and I’d vote Remain, however that was presented. fuck a new referendum we voted out... You are just listening to people who are only bothered about themselves... We're just been mugged off like usual has a country we're fucked... Just call us Britain from now on we're no longer great
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 19:57:17 GMT
OK fair enough, whether it was Farage, or Boris, or whoever, it was promised, and was a lie. It didn't actually promise anything. It made the general point that we are net contributors to the EU and we could decide for ourselves how to spend our own money....do you think it is a good Idea to give away the money of basic rate taxpayers to let others in the remote Brussels to decide how to spend it? No, but I also don’t think it’s a good idea to allow a bunch of self-serving tosspots deliver their own version of Brexit, and not the one that those basic-rate taxpayers thought they would get.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 19:58:13 GMT
What do you mean, “do I do adverts”? “Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a "mistake" to promise that £350million a week would be spent on the NHS if the UK backed a Brexit vote”. OK, I was £10m out. Remain ran an advert recently with an ex leave voter claiming to be from Stoke who they said had changed his mind and wanted to remain turned out it was a lie funnily enough. I’d imagine there are a few...
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Post by Northy on Mar 13, 2019 19:59:44 GMT
My Mrs has a new bow to her belt at work today, incident support officer in case of no deal brexit has been added, alongside her normal role at the environment agency
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 13, 2019 19:59:49 GMT
Utter fucking Quislings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:07:53 GMT
Classic M.P. hypocrisy again, this time from Hilary Benn - he's just said that the Prime Minister should show some respect and "honour the House of Conmen democratic decision to tonight's vote". He seems to carefully forget that the House of Conmen have completely forgotten and/or ignored the "democratic decision of the 2016 referendum".
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 13, 2019 20:08:40 GMT
I wouldn’t think most of them have a decent fuck in them
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 13, 2019 20:09:55 GMT
We've already had this vote. 'Leave' won by well over ONE MILLION votes. Please convince me asto why: 1. We need to have this vote again? 2. If 'Leave' wins (again) why should we believe it will be respected it this time? I’d back a new referendum, and I voted Leave. Now that all of the facts are on the table, we now understand that our Government can not / will never deliver a satisfactory Brexit, we know know that Nigel’s £360m NHS pledge was utter bollocks, etc etc. I was swayed in the end, by listening to Sir Anthony Bamford talk about how much better things will be after we leave the EU, quickly followed by Lord Digby Jones saying the same. That was enough to get me off the fence. This time around, my opinion would I think be “better the devil you know”, and I’d vote Remain, however that was presented. Doffs cap to you Sir. " better the devil you know" has been my mantra from day one. The EU needs reform... we all know that. The UK should have been part of a big three leading that reform. I'm fundamentally against a second referendum but when the likes of Rees-Mogg say tonight " she's not my Prime Minister... she's the Queen's" It makes me wonder if the EU are the sensible ordered structure compared to our mad box of frogs.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 13, 2019 20:14:11 GMT
Classic M.P. hypocrisy again, this time from Hilary Benn - he's just said that the Prime Minister should show some respect and "honour the House of Conmen democratic decision to tonight's vote". He seems to carefully forget that the House of Conmen have completely forgotten and/or ignored the "democratic decision of the 2016 referendum". There is absolutely nobody worth voting for. Democracy only counts when they decree it does. I hope they suffer for this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:16:39 GMT
Classic hypocrisy from Soubry. She's just said that the government have just "dismissed the result of tonight's democratic vote". Bloody hypocrite after she stood on a manifesto to honour the 2016 result but has consistently agitated to overturn and "dismiss the result".
Hypocritical cow !
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 13, 2019 20:16:48 GMT
I’d back a new referendum, and I voted Leave. Now that all of the facts are on the table, we now understand that our Government can not / will never deliver a satisfactory Brexit, we know know that Nigel’s £360m NHS pledge was utter bollocks, etc etc. I was swayed in the end, by listening to Sir Anthony Bamford talk about how much better things will be after we leave the EU, quickly followed by Lord Digby Jones saying the same. That was enough to get me off the fence. This time around, my opinion would I think be “better the devil you know”, and I’d vote Remain, however that was presented. Doffs cap to you Sir. " better the devil you know" has been my mantra from day one. The EU needs reform... we all know that. The UK should have been part of a big three leading that reform. I'm fundamentally against a second referendum but when the likes of Rees-Mogg say tonight " she's not my Prime Minister... she's the Queen's" It makes me wonder if the EU are the sensible ordered structure compared to our mad box of frogs. Go the whole hog and get rid of this lot. They have shown they couldn't run a bath. Running the country is beyond them, so hand over all power to Brussels. Stop the pretence.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 13, 2019 20:18:39 GMT
It didn't actually promise anything. It made the general point that we are net contributors to the EU and we could decide for ourselves how to spend our own money....do you think it is a good Idea to give away the money of basic rate taxpayers to let others in the remote Brussels to decide how to spend it? No, but I also don’t think it’s a good idea to allow a bunch of self-serving tosspots deliver their own version of Brexit, and not the one that those basic-rate taxpayers thought they would get. I agree the " self serving tossers" are those who are trying to thwart Brexit, the extreme Remainers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:19:26 GMT
We've already had this vote. 'Leave' won by well over ONE MILLION votes. Please convince me asto why: 1. We need to have this vote again? 2. If 'Leave' wins (again) why should we believe it will be respected it this time? I’d back a new referendum, and I voted Leave. Now that all of the facts are on the table, we now understand that our Government can not / will never deliver a satisfactory Brexit, we know know that Nigel’s £360m NHS pledge was utter bollocks, etc etc. I was swayed in the end, by listening to Sir Anthony Bamford talk about how much better things will be after we leave the EU, quickly followed by Lord Digby Jones saying the same. That was enough to get me off the fence. This time around, my opinion would I think be “better the devil you know”, and I’d vote Remain, however that was presented. Facts?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:20:53 GMT
Theresa May looks like somebody's aged grandmother sitting there tonight, she looks like she's aged about twenty years in the last few days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:22:31 GMT
I’d back a new referendum, and I voted Leave. Now that all of the facts are on the table, we now understand that our Government can not / will never deliver a satisfactory Brexit, we know know that Nigel’s £360m NHS pledge was utter bollocks, etc etc. I was swayed in the end, by listening to Sir Anthony Bamford talk about how much better things will be after we leave the EU, quickly followed by Lord Digby Jones saying the same. That was enough to get me off the fence. This time around, my opinion would I think be “better the devil you know”, and I’d vote Remain, however that was presented. Facts? Yeah, a failure to deliver a satisfactory Brexit has happened - fact. Put a different way - people are now significantly better informed than they were prior to the Referendum.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 13, 2019 20:23:06 GMT
Don't get too excited the EU have already said its not enough to vote against No Deal there has to be deal agreed, there is a deal that the EU is ready to sign. So good work lads and lasses another day wasted, 16 more sleeps till brexit
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 13, 2019 20:24:46 GMT
Gutless fucking turds. Cheers, Jezza, for fighting for the working class and sticking to your principles.
Fuck the Tories for not having the balls to go through with Brexit. The very thought of being an independent country!
And most of all, FUCK EU 🇪🇺!
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 13, 2019 20:25:39 GMT
Doffs cap to you Sir. " better the devil you know" has been my mantra from day one. The EU needs reform... we all know that. The UK should have been part of a big three leading that reform. I'm fundamentally against a second referendum but when the likes of Rees-Mogg say tonight " she's not my Prime Minister... she's the Queen's" It makes me wonder if the EU are the sensible ordered structure compared to our mad box of frogs. Go the whole hog and get rid of this lot. They have shown they couldn't run a bath. Running the country is beyond them, so hand over all power to Brussels. Stop the pretence. I'm a Europhile tricky.. as I think you know... As it stands at the moment , it may not be a bad idea 😊
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 13, 2019 20:27:57 GMT
Classic M.P. hypocrisy again, this time from Hilary Benn - he's just said that the Prime Minister should show some respect and "honour the House of Conmen democratic decision to tonight's vote". He seems to carefully forget that the House of Conmen have completely forgotten and/or ignored the "democratic decision of the 2016 referendum". There is absolutely nobody worth voting for. Democracy only counts when they decree it does. I hope they suffer for this. I personally agree with what farage he said on tv tonight brexit will happen as the genie is out of the bottle It will take more battles If the extension is long enough for the European elections to take place in this country then it will be very interesting to see how the brexit party will perform Where I disagree with farage is I don’t think there will be a extension may’s deal will return and will sneake through due to The UD and the ERG ending up backing it rather than a even softer brexit
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 13, 2019 20:31:37 GMT
What does it take for a pathetic shower of shit Prime Minister to resign these days? Incest? Murder? Public buggery on the cenotaph?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:34:25 GMT
Go the whole hog and get rid of this lot. They have shown they couldn't run a bath. Running the country is beyond them, so hand over all power to Brussels. Stop the pretence. I'm a Europhile tricky.. as I think you know... As it stands at the moment , it may not be a bad idea 😊 I too am a Europhile. Europe is a hotbed of "culture". Architecture, History, Opera, Art, Music, landscapes .... A beautiful continent.
The EU on the other hand is a stinking cesspit of greed and self interest. Bureaucracy by fucking idiots, on steroids.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:36:10 GMT
What does it take for a pathetic shower of shit Prime Minister to resign these days? Incest? Murder? Public buggery on the cenotaph? All three in the same incident I'd imagine.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 13, 2019 20:38:49 GMT
What does it take for a pathetic shower of shit Prime Minister to resign these days? Incest? Murder? Public buggery on the cenotaph? She's doing an excellent job Sheikh..... for the Remainer Political class and on behalf of the EU.... they'll want to keep her there as long as possible
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 13, 2019 20:38:54 GMT
What does it take for a pathetic shower of shit Prime Minister to resign these days? Incest? Murder? Public buggery on the cenotaph? A halfway decent or competent leader of the opposition, join the dots momo.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 13, 2019 20:40:52 GMT
I'm a Europhile tricky.. as I think you know... As it stands at the moment , it may not be a bad idea 😊 I too am a Europhile. Europe is a hotbed of "culture". Architecture, History, Opera, Art, Music, landscapes .... A beautiful continent.
The EU on the other hand is a sticking cesspit of greed and self interest. Bureaucracy by fucking idiots, on steroids.
I think tonight of all nights you keep your powder dry on the state of governments and bureaucracy.. With all due respect.
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