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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:04:26 GMT
It is quite clear now, that we no longer live in a democracy. I hope the biggest shit storm ever rocks this country. Mate, I don’t think we really ever did...
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 12, 2019 20:05:12 GMT
If this was the other way round, and remain won by a slim margin, the arguments from the leave side wouldn’t even be listened to, never mind cause this absolute tidal wave of shit. The money men and politicians weren’t banking on the rest of the country, which lies in neglect whilst they scoff wine and scallops in the cafe at Harrods, actually telling the fuckers we’re sick of being pushed around by some nonces who have no affiliation with this country other than some trade deal on a piece of paper. It’ll be masked as a “saviour for British industry” and “safeguarding our future” when really it’s exactly what the politicians and upper class arseholes want. It’s no coincidence that the majority of leave votes came from cities that used to have an industry, that has systematically been ripped apart over the past 40 years and replaced with cheap foreign labour on zero hour contracts, this was the one opportunity a once proud nation had at clawing some of its identity back, and its been disregarded like a crusty jizzrag. It’s a complete shithole this country it really is, ran by utter tosspots who are so out of touch with reality they should be in a padded cell dribbling. Great fucking post. Well said. Seconded
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:06:43 GMT
I would suggest storming parliament, but the fuckers would suddenly find sufficient police numbers to quell any uprising. I haven't been this angry since the Miners Strike. Well the army masquerading as police ... now where have we seen that before 🤔
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 12, 2019 20:08:01 GMT
My feelings exactly ,what a load of self serving pigs we have as our mps If this was the other way round, and remain won by a slim margin, the arguments from the leave side wouldn’t even be listened to, never mind cause this absolute tidal wave of shit. The money men and politicians weren’t banking on the rest of the country, which lies in neglect whilst they scoff wine and scallops in the cafe at Harrods, actually telling the fuckers we’re sick of being pushed around by some nonces who have no affiliation with this country other than some trade deal on a piece of paper. It’ll be masked as a “saviour for British industry” and “safeguarding our future” when really it’s exactly what the politicians and upper class arseholes want. It’s no coincidence that the majority of leave votes came from cities that used to have an industry, that has systematically been ripped apart over the past 40 years and replaced with cheap foreign labour on zero hour contracts, this was the one opportunity a once proud nation had at clawing some of its identity back, and its been disregarded like a crusty jizzrag. It’s a complete shithole this country it really is, ran by utter tosspots who are so out of touch with reality they should be in a padded cell dribbling. Very well put mate ,I'm that angry of with allthese wasters I couldn't have composed it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:11:06 GMT
My feelings exactly ,what a load of self serving pigs we have as our mps If this was the other way round, and remain won by a slim margin, the arguments from the leave side wouldn’t even be listened to, never mind cause this absolute tidal wave of shit. The money men and politicians weren’t banking on the rest of the country, which lies in neglect whilst they scoff wine and scallops in the cafe at Harrods, actually telling the fuckers we’re sick of being pushed around by some nonces who have no affiliation with this country other than some trade deal on a piece of paper. It’ll be masked as a “saviour for British industry” and “safeguarding our future” when really it’s exactly what the politicians and upper class arseholes want. It’s no coincidence that the majority of leave votes came from cities that used to have an industry, that has systematically been ripped apart over the past 40 years and replaced with cheap foreign labour on zero hour contracts, this was the one opportunity a once proud nation had at clawing some of its identity back, and its been disregarded like a crusty jizzrag. It’s a complete shithole this country it really is, ran by utter tosspots who are so out of touch with reality they should be in a padded cell dribbling. Yep. Cos we’re all thick as pig shit aren’t we. The thing is had they not completely and repeatedly fucked over those working class areas then we probably wouldn’t be in this mess. Nor despite this mess have they thought to look at the problems which has caused it. They are not out of touch with reality. They just don’t give a fuck. They do well out these policies. Their families and friends have made a fortune out of PFI and cheap labour and the like. They are not out of touch they do not care. I don’t think for a second that one of the reasons certain Tories have voted for Brexit is to strip away workers rights even more. We haven’t had a proper voice since the unions lost their power in my opinion and we never will again. And they even infiltrated those.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 12, 2019 20:11:39 GMT
It is quite clear now, that we no longer live in a democracy. I hope the biggest shit storm ever rocks this country. Mate, I don’t think we really ever did... Or me. Think about it, you go to work, and the government just help themselves to a portion of your wage, under the proviso that it goes to public services, which would be fine, but it doesn’t does it? The NHS is on its arse There’s no Police Factories are shutting down left right and centre The high street is now just somewhere where drug addicts gather to harass people The roads are a mess. And if you stop paying this money? Jail Protest against the people in charge? Jail Follow the process put in place for the people to vote for what they want? Ignored We’re a Tesco value version of North Korea. Fight for the country and expect a warm welcome home? Forget it, it’s the streets for you We’re a third world country that just happened to find a nice shiny suit in a charity bag.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 12, 2019 20:14:17 GMT
My feelings exactly ,what a load of self serving pigs we have as our mps If this was the other way round, and remain won by a slim margin, the arguments from the leave side wouldn’t even be listened to, never mind cause this absolute tidal wave of shit. The money men and politicians weren’t banking on the rest of the country, which lies in neglect whilst they scoff wine and scallops in the cafe at Harrods, actually telling the fuckers we’re sick of being pushed around by some nonces who have no affiliation with this country other than some trade deal on a piece of paper. It’ll be masked as a “saviour for British industry” and “safeguarding our future” when really it’s exactly what the politicians and upper class arseholes want. It’s no coincidence that the majority of leave votes came from cities that used to have an industry, that has systematically been ripped apart over the past 40 years and replaced with cheap foreign labour on zero hour contracts, this was the one opportunity a once proud nation had at clawing some of its identity back, and its been disregarded like a crusty jizzrag. It’s a complete shithole this country it really is, ran by utter tosspots who are so out of touch with reality they should be in a padded cell dribbling. the vast majority of MP's are charlatans, I will never personally vote for a major party for the rest of my life, democratic country my fat hairy arse we are effectively been railroaded into staying in the republic of the EU by a bunch of sour losers.
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Post by dexta on Mar 12, 2019 20:14:48 GMT
We're just a fucked up country ruled by dicks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:16:17 GMT
Mate, I don’t think we really ever did... Or me. Think about it, you go to work, and the government just help themselves to a portion of your wage, under the proviso that it goes to public services, which would be fine, but it doesn’t does it? The NHS is on its arse There’s no Police Factories are shutting down left right and centre The high street is now just somewhere where drug addicts gather to harass people The roads are a mess. And if you stop paying this money? Jail Protest against the people in charge? Jail Follow the process put in place for the people to vote for what they want? Ignored We’re a Tesco value version of North Korea. Fight for the country and expect a warm welcome home? Forget it, it’s the streets for you We’re a third world country that just happened to find a nice shiny suit in a charity bag. The problem is people do not and will not see it. These people in government are not stupid. It’s not happening because our government is incompetent. It’s happening because it’s planned. They are getting exactly what they want and people put it down to them just being thick or incompetent.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 12, 2019 20:16:30 GMT
All these bloody MP's keep blathering on about the Government showing "respect to the House". Not once has there been any thought or comment about Parliament in general "showing respect to the country or electorate". Complete and utter bunch of shysters ! They fully deserve to be shown what the electorate think at the next general election. And vote for who though?
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 12, 2019 20:17:20 GMT
It is quite clear that the MPs have contrived to stop us leaving and I am waiting to see what the reaction will be when the cost of extending our membership is announced by the EU. I expect about 1 billion Euros per month.
If the MPs vote to prevent us leaving without a deal, the EU will have us over a barrel. Instead of "The Rape of Europa", it will the rape of the UK.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 12, 2019 20:18:17 GMT
It's becoming increasinly apparent that a message needs to be sent.
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Post by Absolution on Mar 12, 2019 20:19:46 GMT
Face it, we are not leaving. it's a fucking disgrace whats unfolding My mates and I who worked in residential care positively bounced into work on the day the result was announced. Within an hour, the media had pissed on our chips. They, and parliament, have been pissing ever since. I hope they pay for this. That's spot on. From the moment we won the referendum it's felt like we lost and were in the wrong. Three years of constant negativity over Brexit ever since and the cackling, grinning hyenas ask what we fear from a second referendum. Like asking people to eat a once very tasty meal that's since been sicked up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:22:39 GMT
All these bloody MP's keep blathering on about the Government showing "respect to the House". Not once has there been any thought or comment about Parliament in general "showing respect to the country or electorate". Complete and utter bunch of shysters ! They fully deserve to be shown what the electorate think at the next general election. And vote for who though? Yeah I know, that's a big problem isn't it. Who else is there, certainly not Lib Dems !
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 12, 2019 20:25:18 GMT
Yeah I know, that's a big problem isn't it. Who else is there, certainly not Lib Dems ! I think the Monster Raving Loony party is still going .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:26:09 GMT
Yeah I know, that's a big problem isn't it. Who else is there, certainly not Lib Dems ! If you’re an employee of someone else and you think it’s safe to leave with no deal with the Tories in power I worry for you if you think the first thing they won’t chip away at is your employment rights which mostly come from the EU. No deal means they aren’t protected. That’s a huge factor in why Labour won’t risk a no deal. They aren’t being dicks for not reason.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 12, 2019 20:32:16 GMT
Is everyone on here a Brexiteer?
Jesus.
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Post by chad on Mar 12, 2019 20:33:02 GMT
And tomorrow they’ll vote to take no deal off the table. The only negotiating tool we have. We have spent two years negotiating a deal We have a deal. It’s not great but it gets us out. But no. The Brexiteers (of all people) scuttle it Where now TM to resign. General Election probably giving no overall majority. Another referendum probably ending 51/49 either way. Losers reject the result. Loads of oooing and aaghing in Parliament. General Election. Rinse and Repeat Fucking Shamble. Laughing stock of Europe
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Post by neworleanstokie on Mar 12, 2019 20:38:48 GMT
Is everyone on here a Brexiteer? Jesus. No but the board does reflect the electorate of S-o-T so you should not be surprised it's skewed that way.
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Post by henry on Mar 12, 2019 20:39:11 GMT
Face it, we are not leaving. it's a fucking disgrace whats unfolding My mates and I who worked in residential care positively bounced into work on the day the result was announced. Within an hour, the media had pissed on our chips. They, and parliament, have been pissing ever since. I hope they pay for this. Within hours of the result the phrases "soft brexit" and "hard brexit" were born. We are in it forever.
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 12, 2019 20:40:32 GMT
Is everyone on here a Brexiteer? Jesus. No but the board does reflect the electorate of S-o-T so you should not be surprised it's skewed that way. I'm not from Stoke
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Post by neworleanstokie on Mar 12, 2019 20:40:43 GMT
My feelings exactly ,what a load of self serving pigs we have as our mps If this was the other way round, and remain won by a slim margin, the arguments from the leave side wouldn’t even be listened to, never mind cause this absolute tidal wave of shit. The money men and politicians weren’t banking on the rest of the country, which lies in neglect whilst they scoff wine and scallops in the cafe at Harrods, actually telling the fuckers we’re sick of being pushed around by some nonces who have no affiliation with this country other than some trade deal on a piece of paper. It’ll be masked as a “saviour for British industry” and “safeguarding our future” when really it’s exactly what the politicians and upper class arseholes want. It’s no coincidence that the majority of leave votes came from cities that used to have an industry, that has systematically been ripped apart over the past 40 years and replaced with cheap foreign labour on zero hour contracts, this was the one opportunity a once proud nation had at clawing some of its identity back, and its been disregarded like a crusty jizzrag. It’s a complete shithole this country it really is, ran by utter tosspots who are so out of touch with reality they should be in a padded cell dribbling. Interesting comments - a bit like how I felt when I left in 89. Maybe those old enough to remember the "fun times" of the 80s can now relate.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 12, 2019 20:41:49 GMT
Yeah I know, that's a big problem isn't it. Who else is there, certainly not Lib Dems ! If you’re an employee of someone else and you think it’s safe to leave with no deal with the Tories in power I worry for you if you think the first thing they won’t chip away at is your employment rights which mostly come from the EU. No deal means they aren’t protected. That’s a huge factor in why Labour won’t risk a no deal. They aren’t being dicks for not reason. Absolute rubbish. Do you think employment rights in Norway, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc. come from the EU? Do you believe we will always have a Tory government? People are still protected by all the legislation passed by parliament till parliament changes it and the Tories do not have a majority. Every Labour government we have had has left power with the economy in a bigger mess than it inherited and with higher unemployment.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Mar 12, 2019 20:43:10 GMT
No but the board does reflect the electorate of S-o-T so you should not be surprised it's skewed that way. I'm not from Stoke I did not presume you were mate - if you are expecting a 50/50 debate you've come to the wrong board!
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Post by henry on Mar 12, 2019 20:43:31 GMT
If this was the other way round, and remain won by a slim margin, the arguments from the leave side wouldn’t even be listened to, never mind cause this absolute tidal wave of shit. The money men and politicians weren’t banking on the rest of the country, which lies in neglect whilst they scoff wine and scallops in the cafe at Harrods, actually telling the fuckers we’re sick of being pushed around by some nonces who have no affiliation with this country other than some trade deal on a piece of paper. It’ll be masked as a “saviour for British industry” and “safeguarding our future” when really it’s exactly what the politicians and upper class arseholes want. It’s no coincidence that the majority of leave votes came from cities that used to have an industry, that has systematically been ripped apart over the past 40 years and replaced with cheap foreign labour on zero hour contracts, this was the one opportunity a once proud nation had at clawing some of its identity back, and its been disregarded like a crusty jizzrag. It’s a complete shithole this country it really is, ran by utter tosspots who are so out of touch with reality they should be in a padded cell dribbling. the vast majority of MP's are charlatans, I will never personally vote for a major party for the rest of my life, democratic country my fat hairy arse we are effectively been railroaded into staying in the republic of the EU by a bunch of sour losers. I won't be voting ever again either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:44:54 GMT
Jack Brereton - Stoke South voted for the deal in January and tonight. Jeremy Lefroy - Stafford also voted for it both times.
Bill Cash - Stone voted against it twice.
Ruth Smeeth and Gareth Snell both voted against it twice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:45:39 GMT
I'm English..but i do not understand how the vote or what ever happens will involve or impact on me..I have a job, house etc, so what difference would it make either way?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:48:28 GMT
I'm English..but i do not understand how the vote or what ever happens will involve or impact on me..I have a job, house etc, so what difference would it make either way? The EU interferes and meddles in all affairs - we are all affected eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:52:44 GMT
If you’re an employee of someone else and you think it’s safe to leave with no deal with the Tories in power I worry for you if you think the first thing they won’t chip away at is your employment rights which mostly come from the EU. No deal means they aren’t protected. That’s a huge factor in why Labour won’t risk a no deal. They aren’t being dicks for not reason. Absolute rubbish. Do you think employment rights in Norway, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc. come from the EU? Do you believe we will always have a Tory government? People are still protected by all the legislation passed by parliament till parliament changes it and the Tories do not have a majority. Every Labour government we have had has left power with the economy in a bigger mess than it inherited and with higher unemployment. Yes they do if they keep paying the DUP to vote with them. Do you honestly think the vast majority don’t want it to serve their own purposes which don’t quite frankly align to the vast majority of the working class areas who voted for Brexit. As for the economy being better where has that gone? Cos I see zero hours cropping up, I see our NHS being sold off, I see schools suffering from chronic underfunding, people having to wait hours for ambulance and people with knives running around London cos there’s no police, disabled people being told they have go back to work, public transport gone to absolute shit, houses becoming unaffordable and someone telling me my mom having worked all her life as a teacher would have to sell her house if she needed care in her old age? How is the economy being better helping the majority of people? It isn’t is it.
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Post by henry on Mar 12, 2019 20:55:46 GMT
If you’re an employee of someone else and you think it’s safe to leave with no deal with the Tories in power I worry for you if you think the first thing they won’t chip away at is your employment rights which mostly come from the EU. No deal means they aren’t protected. That’s a huge factor in why Labour won’t risk a no deal. They aren’t being dicks for not reason. Absolute rubbish. Do you think employment rights in Norway, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc. come from the EU? Do you believe we will always have a Tory government? People are still protected by all the legislation passed by parliament till parliament changes it and the Tories do not have a majority. Every Labour government we have had has left power with the economy in a bigger mess than it inherited and with higher unemployment. They like to leave a note in a draw telling us that there is no more money left.
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