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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 4, 2018 12:19:43 GMT
It was inevitable. Nobody should be surprised. We've got a dry run coming this week with how this government in contempt piece pans out to see exactly where the appetite sits with how the house is likely to vote. Think we all know another referendum is probably going to happen. Just need to see if we are having a full house of another general election too... Correct. Every Country in Europe that's tried to leave the EU or tried to vote something down..has failed. The last 2 years have been a complete fucking charade..the only winners are Law Firms. Norway has twice voted not to join the EU, with 18 years in between referendums.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 4, 2018 12:21:45 GMT
Correct. Every Country in Europe that's tried to leave the EU or tried to vote something down..has failed. The last 2 years have been a complete fucking charade..the only winners are Law Firms. It's also been a great distraction that within that time we have seen more public assets sold off to the private sector over that period than in our entire history combined with not denting our debt... It's almost as if it was a plan all along to focus our energies elsewhere... I doubt it. That would require planning & organisation. This lot couldn't run a bath.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 4, 2018 12:23:04 GMT
Correct. Every Country in Europe that's tried to leave the EU or tried to vote something down..has failed. The last 2 years have been a complete fucking charade..the only winners are Law Firms. Norway has twice voted not to join the EU, with 18 years in between referendums. Apart from Norway
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 4, 2018 12:42:25 GMT
Not related to too much being discussed right now, but a while go I wondered why the fishing industry had taken such prominence in the economic debate.
Done a quick check on the statistics and they seem to be true - it was only a quick check mind.
Is the fishing industry being used as a red herring (wahey!) in the economic debate?
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Post by Davef on Dec 4, 2018 12:42:36 GMT
Norway has twice voted not to join the EU, with 18 years in between referendums. Apart from Norway Norway have never voted to leave the EU though have they?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 4, 2018 12:43:57 GMT
Apart from Norway Norway have never voted to leave the EU though have they? No, true. I assumed it would fall under the "voted something down".
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 4, 2018 12:57:21 GMT
Absolute blinder he is 5% behind in the polls Possibly because of Brexit? Absolutely because of brexit (and the rabid anti semitism) appearing to support it has upset the free unicorns for all crowd, appearing to be against it has upset the voters in northern heartlands, generally he has made himself look duplicitous and made a laughing stock of his man of principle act, May whilst being very crap at negotiations at least appeared to be trying to get a brexit of some sort....
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 4, 2018 12:57:26 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 4, 2018 12:59:02 GMT
Absolute blinder he is 5% behind in the polls 5% that’s nothing compared to how far he’ll be when he finally decides which horse his arse is sitting in regards brexit Absolutely the public has caught on his only interest has been to force a general election not a good look for him.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 4, 2018 13:03:07 GMT
5% that’s nothing compared to how far he’ll be when he finally decides which horse his arse is sitting in regards brexit Absolutely the public has caught on his only interest has been to force a general election not a good look for him. To me he’s beginning to look like a lemming ready for the cliff Trying to force a election he can’t win
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 4, 2018 13:08:53 GMT
Absolutely the public has caught on his only interest has been to force a general election not a good look for him. To me he’s beginning to look like a lemming ready for the cliff Trying to force a election he can’t win Even worse. He's trying to force an election he can't have.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 4, 2018 13:24:29 GMT
Jezza has served whatever purpose he ever had.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 4, 2018 13:52:38 GMT
Oh the sweet irony of an EU Judge deciding the UK Parliament can pass a UK law to stop Brexit. Thanks Manuel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:24:37 GMT
Oh the sweet irony of an EU Judge deciding the UK Parliament can pass a UK law to stop Brexit. Thanks Manuel. Do you think before they push for this law that all the remainers in Parliament would stop even for one second to consider the reaction of the 17.4 million who voted leave ? The whole thing has been an absolute farce from the day of the referendum in 2016. As Tricky has said for quite some time our so called Brexit has been heading for this outcome and our gutless MP's have carefully steered things to this point. Whatever happened to "honouring the result of the referendum" and "Brexit means Brexit" ? They're nothing but a bunch of complete and utterly contemptible shits.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 4, 2018 16:44:20 GMT
Oh the sweet irony of an EU Judge deciding the UK Parliament can pass a UK law to stop Brexit. Thanks Manuel. Do you think before they push for this law that all the remainers in Parliament would stop even for one second to consider the reaction of the 17.4 million who voted leave ? The whole thing has been an absolute farce from the day of the referendum in 2016. As Tricky has said for quite some time our so called Brexit has been heading for this outcome and our gutless MP's have carefully steered things to this point. Whatever happened to "honouring the result of the referendum" and "Brexit means Brexit" ? They're nothing but a bunch of complete and utterly contemptible shits. And they will be the first to winge about the rise of extrem parties both left and right If the main stream will not act upon the will of the people who can’t blame them for finding those that will
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 4, 2018 17:09:53 GMT
Government now found in contempt of Parliament over not publishing the full legal advice. Could be a bombshell, wonder what’s in it.....maybe the reality that May and EU are screwing us over to stay via the backdoor and the only way out is a full, hard Brexit?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 4, 2018 17:14:43 GMT
Government now found in contempt of Parliament over not publishing the full legal advice. Could be a bombshell, wonder what’s in it.....maybe the reality that May and EU are screwing us over to stay via the backdoor and the only way out is a full, hard Brexit? Who is going to ensure the entire legal advice is made available? Anybody know? I wouldn't trust this bunch of shysters as far as I could piss.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 4, 2018 17:16:16 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11.
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Post by yeokel on Dec 4, 2018 17:18:03 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Excellent, unexpected news. But I note they are saying they will publish the advice on Wednesday so I would guess that will slip to Late Wednesday which means two days have potentially been lost for the ‘Brexit debate’ while the advice about May’s capitulation is awaited and examined.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 4, 2018 17:20:14 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Excellent, unexpected news. But I note they are saying they will publish the advice on Wednesday so I would guess that will slip to Late Wednesday which means two days have potentially been lost for the ‘Brexit debate’ while the advice about May’s capitulation is awaited and examined. I don't expect anything dramatic to emerge from full disclosure but it is a big psychological defeat for The Government. One things for certain..if they can't win this they've got no chance next Tuesday
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 4, 2018 17:29:29 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 4, 2018 17:31:37 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely God help us. A shambolic government vs a shambolic opposition. What a fucking mess.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 4, 2018 17:35:16 GMT
Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely God help us. A shambolic government vs a shambolic opposition. What a fucking mess. In a fucking nutshell. I am past caring, now. Fuck all of them, I hope the EU implodes. What a fucking stitch up this has been. I pity those who can't see it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 4, 2018 17:40:08 GMT
Fuck EU!!!!!!!!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 4, 2018 17:40:59 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely Genuinely Mo I think that's the least likely scenario out off the half dozen on offer. Plus, until Brexit is done and dusted that'll be the only question to dominate a GE campaign and Corbyn doesn't have a credible answer. We've all moved on from "everything is on the table" and Keir's 6 bullet points from last year.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 4, 2018 17:42:57 GMT
Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely God help us. A shambolic government vs a shambolic opposition. What a fucking mess. Not as bad as a Government with no legitimacy and a lost mandate being allowed to limp on for another 4 years. The people's vote is a hateful prospect but should happen in the form of a General Election and take it from there.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 4, 2018 17:43:13 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely Do you honestly think this hasn't been planned? Fucking hell fire, it is as plain as day there has been no will to honour the result xx
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 4, 2018 17:45:09 GMT
The Government Losing the Contempt Vote and being forced to publish the full legal advice on Brexit is of massive parliamentary significance and is a foretaste of what is to come before and after the vote on December 11. Whichever side of the Political divide you sit on, these are unprecedented and tumultuous times. It's hard to know what will happen but an election has to be on the cards surely I think it depends (to some extent) on how many votes Theresa May loses next vote by. 1)She might resign..but then we'd have a Conservative Party Leadership contest in the middle of all this mess. 2)There could be a general election but isn't that dependent on two thirds of MPs passing an amendment? (hardly likely) 3)There could be a second Referendum 4)We might go out on WTO rules (No deal) What are the odds on May not backing her own deal and saying it's best to revoke Article 50 because it's in 'The National Interest' (ie My interest) Whatever else you might think NEVER forget that its The Conservative Party that's fucked up. They've led us into this mess and they need to clean all this shit up
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 4, 2018 17:49:18 GMT
Will us peasants get to see the "Full Legal Advice"? Or are we too thick and unworthy of such privileged information. If this reveals anything sinister many politicians will be pondering their next move as will the populace. Interesting times ahead for sure.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 4, 2018 17:55:22 GMT
Will us peasants get to see the "Full Legal Advice"? Or are we too thick and unworthy of such privileged information. If this reveals anything sinister many politicians will be pondering their next move as will the populace. Interesting times ahead for sure. Why should we? We are thick, racist fucks, after all.
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