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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 25, 2018 12:38:42 GMT
You do realise its the civil servants who do all this planning not MP's so any infighting is pretty irrelevant, there has been no real planning for a no deal from the UK or the EU because there is no way a no deal will ever be allowed. Of course I'm aware that it's the civil servants who do the work. More specifically, they do the work commissioned by the government within the time-frame allotted, and the time-frame for Brexit is very tight*. This work really should have been done before Article 50 was triggered - there was never any chance of that happening - and I think the differing ideas within the government about what Brexit should be (soft, hard no-deal) have made the NAO's job even much more difficult in this case. I'm afraid I don't share your certainty about the no-deal scenario - wish I did. It may not happen while May is PM - the only thing she is good for IMO - but I think there are other players who might well opt for no-deal rather than a delayed Brexit, especially the ERG group. It could also happen (although I think iz unlikely) that the EU loses patience with the UK and invokes Article 7 which would mean suspension for the UK - same effect as a no deal. *I maintain that Brexit has always really been about getting the UK out of the EU before the latters Anti-Tax-Avoidance initiative comes into being next year - and that some would choose no-deal rather than fall under it. Ah, the old tax avoidance myth. Nasty billionaire Tories trying to scarper before the democrats in Brussels find their offshore stash. The EU Anti Tax Avoidance Directive was tabled on the 28th January 2016 and adopted on 20th June 2016 and must be implemented on 1st January 2019. The UK's European Union Referendum Act 2015 had its first reading on the 28th May 2015 and received Royal consent on 17th December 2015. The promise of an in/out referendum was given by Cameron during his election campaign in early 2015 and in fact was initially offered in a speech going back to 2013. So way before the EU's directive. Cameron actually wanted only EU reform and Campaigned to Remain as did all the other Leaders save, UKIP. As did the MSM, the banks and big businesses. |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 25, 2018 12:40:00 GMT
FFS page 370 odd and still people don't get it right  I fixed it for you |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 25, 2018 13:14:49 GMT
FFS page 370 odd and still people don't get it right I fixed it for you And Boeing opened a new manufacturing plant in Sheffield |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 25, 2018 13:15:45 GMT
I could think of a few better words I'm trying to be good 😊 |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 25, 2018 13:28:16 GMT
Since the EU was founded there have been 48 different referendums relating to further integration into the EU and not a single one re-run if the result favoured the EU....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 25, 2018 23:20:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 5:09:33 GMT
Are you just referring to the doom and gloom headline or the paragraph where it says 'The OECD admitted that Brexit negotiations were difficult to forecast and could "prove more favourable" than assumed in it's report - boosting trade, investment and growth"'. Yet more sensationalist scaremongering ! |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 26, 2018 10:25:44 GMT
FFS page 370 odd and still people don't get it right I fixed it for you And DESPITE BREXIT Boeing opened a new manufacturing plant in Sheffield FFS Harry  |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 26, 2018 10:30:54 GMT
And DESPITE BREXIT Boeing opened a new manufacturing plant in Sheffield FFS Harry Thanks mate 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 11:43:05 GMT
Are you just referring to the doom and gloom headline or the paragraph where it says 'The OECD admitted that Brexit negotiations were difficult to forecast and could "prove more favourable" than assumed in it's report - boosting trade, investment and growth"'. Yet more sensationalist scaremongering ! Yet more huddy |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 26, 2018 13:37:50 GMT
Customs aren’t the issue, maybe delays due to eventual light sanitary controls.
Back to the hens will stop laying stories again then?
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 26, 2018 14:35:50 GMT
Customs aren’t the issue, maybe delays due to eventual light sanitary controls.Back to the hens will stop laying stories again then? Light sanitary controls Is that anything to do with that advert where you can suddenly ski down a mountainside in tight white trousers |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 26, 2018 14:41:33 GMT
Are you just referring to the doom and gloom headline or the paragraph where it says 'The OECD admitted that Brexit negotiations were difficult to forecast and could "prove more favourable" than assumed in it's report - boosting trade, investment and growth"'. Yet more sensationalist scaremongering ! Feel free to inform me where that's all coming from? |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 26, 2018 14:47:13 GMT
Customs aren’t the issue, maybe delays due to eventual light sanitary controls.Back to the hens will stop laying stories again then? Light sanitary controls Is that anything to do with that advert where you can suddenly ski down a mountainside in tight white trousers Sounds like it's at your own risk if you cough while handing over your passport. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 26, 2018 15:04:16 GMT
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Post by Northy on Oct 26, 2018 15:30:33 GMT
A Department for International Trade spokesperson said: “The large majority of our trading partners do not have any objections to our proposed goods schedule. A small number have submitted their concerns and would like to discuss further. “This was expected and does not impact our ability to trade independently. The terms we have set out will form the basis of our trade policy while we engage with our WTO partners to address their concerns.” |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 26, 2018 16:20:01 GMT
A Department for International Trade spokesperson said: “The large majority of our trading partners do not have any objections to our proposed goods schedule. A small number have submitted their concerns and would like to discuss further. “This was expected and does not impact our ability to trade independently. The terms we have set out will form the basis of our trade policy while we engage with our WTO partners to address their concerns.” It was reported yesterday the country that objected is Russia , surprise surprise |
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Post by capto on Oct 26, 2018 17:15:31 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 27, 2018 7:41:54 GMT
Can't wait to trade on these WTO rules. Sounds brilliant and way better than what we've got in place now!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2018 9:04:03 GMT
A Department for International Trade spokesperson said: “The large majority of our trading partners do not have any objections to our proposed goods schedule. A small number have submitted their concerns and would like to discuss further. “This was expected and does not impact our ability to trade independently. The terms we have set out will form the basis of our trade policy while we engage with our WTO partners to address their concerns.” It was reported yesterday the country that objected is Russia , surprise surprise There are a few WTO nerds who I follow on twitter. This guy is worth a read... basically "the UK can successfully trade on an un-certified schedule"..... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2018 9:09:40 GMT
These Federalist's just don't get it do they  |
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Post by ravey123 on Oct 27, 2018 9:17:12 GMT
These Federalist's just don't get it do they Their logic is basically - if it's broke lets do more of the same that broke it in the first place. Perhaps it should be - it's broke/breaking - lets see what caused it and do something different. |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 27, 2018 9:20:35 GMT
These Federalist's just don't get it do they Yep more integration is the key , make it impossible for anyone else to quit |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 27, 2018 12:52:00 GMT
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 27, 2018 13:09:42 GMT
I would not believe a word Boris says,he is after one thing only and will tell as many lies as he think he needs to become the leader of the Tories  |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 27, 2018 13:12:31 GMT
No different from the lies from carney and Osborn |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 27, 2018 16:15:58 GMT
No different from the lies from carney and Osborn In that case, you don’t understand the difference between a lie and a prediction. And the lies are still believed by 42% in the poll. That alone is evidence enough that the referendum result was worthless as people’s decisions were based on lies. Democracy is dead if the result is followed without further scrutiny as to what people actually want. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 27, 2018 16:21:06 GMT
No different from the lies from carney and Osborn In that case, you don’t understand the difference between a lie and a prediction. And the lies are still believed by 42% in the poll. That alone is evidence enough that the referendum result was worthless as people’s decisions were based on lies. Democracy is dead if the result is followed without further scrutiny as to what people actually want. Cack. |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 27, 2018 16:49:03 GMT
No different from the lies from carney and Osborn In that case, you don’t understand the difference between a lie and a prediction. And the lies are still believed by 42% in the poll. That alone is evidence enough that the referendum result was worthless as people’s decisions were based on lies. Democracy is dead if the result is followed without further scrutiny as to what people actually want. Spoken like a lawyer |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 27, 2018 17:46:32 GMT
In that case, you don’t understand the difference between a lie and a prediction. And the lies are still believed by 42% in the poll. That alone is evidence enough that the referendum result was worthless as people’s decisions were based on lies. Democracy is dead if the result is followed without further scrutiny as to what people actually want. Spoken like a lawyer Thank you |
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