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Post by harryburrows on Oct 23, 2018 12:11:04 GMT
And you lefties squeal like stuck pigs when anyone mentions welfare reform Explain? It's simple , according to your pie chart we spend almost as much on welfare as we do on education and health combined. Whenever government tries to reform or properly target welfare the left wing calls it clobbering the poor . Everyone knows it's being massively abused and is a lifestyle choice for huge numbers of people . Look after the needy absolutely but the schools and NHS are desperate for funds . These benefits claimants need to be assessed on a regular basis . |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 23, 2018 12:16:23 GMT
I used to respect Dyson a lot, especially for his achievements. He's a British engineer from a reasonably modest background and he went on to effectively change the world with a demonstrably better invention than what was available at the time. He might not have invented the jet engine, but his inventions are well respected nonetheless.
My respect for him, has all but disappeared these days. I lost quite a lot of respect for him when he got the role of an engineer and 'assembly line worker' mixed up live on BBC 5Live when explaining why he had moved his plants to Asia, his explanation being: British Engineers aren't interested in the work he offers.... British Engineers are absolutely interested in engineering. What they're not interested in doing, is screwing the wheels on the bottom of a Dyson vacuum cleaner 90 times a day. That's not engineering, that's assembly line work.... that's being a parts jockey.
Perhaps it was intentional. Smoke and mirrors after all.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 23, 2018 12:27:40 GMT
It's simple , according to your pie chart we spend almost as much on welfare as we do on education and health combined. Whenever government tries to reform or properly target welfare the left wing calls it clobbering the poor . Everyone knows it's being massively abused and is a lifestyle choice for huge numbers of people . Look after the needy absolutely but the schools and NHS are desperate for funds . These benefits claimants need to be assessed on a regular basis . It's definitely being abused by some, but I honestly believe the numbers are massively exaggerated by the press. Nobody, and I mean nobody, grows up saying "When I'm older, I want to sit in my house and do nothing, and wait to pick up my giro on a Monday morning from postie". Everyone has dreams to achieve something and for reasons, some beyond our control, many people fail to make it, for whatever reason. I think it's ignorant to suggest that 'huge numbers' of people are just out and out milking the system for banter. It's just not true. I have family friends who receive benefits and the main reason, is because their skills are highly practical but their roles have been replaced by automated systems or moved abroad in some cases. They tried to keep up with the times, so a good friend of my dads was let go from the foundry about 25 or so years ago when the industry ramped down, he eventually found work as truck mechanic which lasted for a number of years.... until he was again let go due to downsizing. By this point, approaching his 60's he found it very hard to even get interviews because he's not IT literate. He can switch on and operate a computer, but jobs now expect interviewees to have a strong understanding of Microsoft Office for example, which he simply doesn't have. He can just about browse the Internet and write a Word Document and print it. So you've now got a bloke, now in his early to mid 60's with excellent practical skills, but nowhere he can really use them. He's not qualified to go and work in a car garage because he didn't get a qualification as a mechanic. There's no real sheet metal work available these days. He's not IT literate enough to work somewhere like an office job. The only roles he can get now are pub work for example, and they're just not sustainable forms of income. They don't even guarantee 5 days a week. So yes, he claims benefits. Here's a guy who worked all his life and was subsequently spat out by the system a few years ago... after working in all weathers, outside, including night shifts where the temperature was bitterly cold at the expense of his own health (he has arthritis in both his hands; 100% down to working as a mechanic in the cold in winter). Now.... tell me he's a scrounger taking the piss out of the benefits system mate  |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 23, 2018 12:39:33 GMT
It's simple , according to your pie chart we spend almost as much on welfare as we do on education and health combined. Whenever government tries to reform or properly target welfare the left wing calls it clobbering the poor . Everyone knows it's being massively abused and is a lifestyle choice for huge numbers of people . Look after the needy absolutely but the schools and NHS are desperate for funds . These benefits claimants need to be assessed on a regular basis . It's definitely being abused by some, but I honestly believe the numbers are massively exaggerated by the press. Nobody, and I mean nobody, grows up saying "When I'm older, I want to sit in my house and do nothing, and wait to pick up my giro on a Monday morning from postie". Everyone has dreams to achieve something and for reasons, some beyond our control, many people fail to make it, for whatever reason. I think it's ignorant to suggest that 'huge numbers' of people are just out and out milking the system for banter. It's just not true. I have family friends who receive benefits and the main reason, is because their skills are highly practical but their roles have been replaced by automated systems or moved abroad in some cases. They tried to keep up with the times, so a good friend of my dads was let go from the foundry about 25 or so years ago when the industry ramped down, he eventually found work as truck mechanic which lasted for a number of years.... until he was again let go due to downsizing. By this point, approaching his 60's he found it very hard to even get interviews because he's not IT literate. He can switch on and operate a computer, but jobs now expect interviewees to have a strong understanding of Microsoft Office for example, which he simply doesn't have. He can just about browse the Internet and write a Word Document and print it. So you've now got a bloke, now in his early to mid 60's with excellent practical skills, but nowhere he can really use them. He's not qualified to go and work in a car garage because he didn't get a qualification as a mechanic. There's no real sheet metal work available these days. He's not IT literate enough to work somewhere like an office job. The only roles he can get now are pub work for example, and they're just not sustainable forms of income. They don't even guarantee 5 days a week. So yes, he claims benefits. Here's a guy who worked all his life and was subsequently spat out by the system a few years ago... after working in all weathers, outside, including night shifts where the temperature was bitterly cold at the expense of his own health (he has arthritis in both his hands; 100% down to working as a mechanic in the cold in winter). Now.... tell me he's a scrounger taking the piss out of the benefits system mate Sounds like he deserves every penny he can get . I'm not tallking. About folks like that though . I've worked in the south for most of my working life . I work with quite a few part time employees and have offered quite a few extra hours and in one case a full time job . The answer is always was the same no thanks it willll affect my benefits. There are plenty of jobs here in my area people will choose money for nothing despite what you think . You may have dreams but lots of people dont |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 23, 2018 12:42:57 GMT
It's definitely being abused by some, but I honestly believe the numbers are massively exaggerated by the press. Nobody, and I mean nobody, grows up saying "When I'm older, I want to sit in my house and do nothing, and wait to pick up my giro on a Monday morning from postie". Everyone has dreams to achieve something and for reasons, some beyond our control, many people fail to make it, for whatever reason. I think it's ignorant to suggest that 'huge numbers' of people are just out and out milking the system for banter. It's just not true. I have family friends who receive benefits and the main reason, is because their skills are highly practical but their roles have been replaced by automated systems or moved abroad in some cases. They tried to keep up with the times, so a good friend of my dads was let go from the foundry about 25 or so years ago when the industry ramped down, he eventually found work as truck mechanic which lasted for a number of years.... until he was again let go due to downsizing. By this point, approaching his 60's he found it very hard to even get interviews because he's not IT literate. He can switch on and operate a computer, but jobs now expect interviewees to have a strong understanding of Microsoft Office for example, which he simply doesn't have. He can just about browse the Internet and write a Word Document and print it. So you've now got a bloke, now in his early to mid 60's with excellent practical skills, but nowhere he can really use them. He's not qualified to go and work in a car garage because he didn't get a qualification as a mechanic. There's no real sheet metal work available these days. He's not IT literate enough to work somewhere like an office job. The only roles he can get now are pub work for example, and they're just not sustainable forms of income. They don't even guarantee 5 days a week. So yes, he claims benefits. Here's a guy who worked all his life and was subsequently spat out by the system a few years ago... after working in all weathers, outside, including night shifts where the temperature was bitterly cold at the expense of his own health (he has arthritis in both his hands; 100% down to working as a mechanic in the cold in winter). Now.... tell me he's a scrounger taking the piss out of the benefits system mate Sounds like he deserves every penny he can get . I'm not tallking. About folks like that though . I've worked in the south for most of my working life . I work with quite a few part time employees and have offered quite a few extra hours and in one case a full time job . The answer is always was the same no thanks it willll affect my benefits. There are plenty of jobs here in my area people will choose money for nothing despite what you think . You may have dreams but lots of people dont I don't doubt some people are out and out intent on ripping off the system. I just think papers like the sun significantly exaggerate the numbers. |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 23, 2018 12:45:38 GMT
Sounds like he deserves every penny he can get . I'm not tallking. About folks like that though . I've worked in the south for most of my working life . I work with quite a few part time employees and have offered quite a few extra hours and in one case a full time job . The answer is always was the same no thanks it willll affect my benefits. There are plenty of jobs here in my area people will choose money for nothing despite what you think . You may have dreams but lots of people dont I don't doubt some people are out and out intent on ripping off the system. I just think papers like the sun significantly exaggerate the numbers. Huddy normally quotes from the socialist worker 😉 |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 23, 2018 12:46:40 GMT
I don't doubt some people are out and out intent on ripping off the system. I just think papers like the sun significantly exaggerate the numbers. Buddy normally quotes from the socialist worker 😉 I don't read that shit either  |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 23, 2018 12:47:19 GMT
It's simple , according to your pie chart we spend almost as much on welfare as we do on education and health combined. Whenever government tries to reform or properly target welfare the left wing calls it clobbering the poor . Everyone knows it's being massively abused and is a lifestyle choice for huge numbers of people . Look after the needy absolutely but the schools and NHS are desperate for funds . These benefits claimants need to be assessed on a regular basis . It's definitely being abused by some, but I honestly believe the numbers are massively exaggerated by the press. Nobody, and I mean nobody, grows up saying "When I'm older, I want to sit in my house and do nothing, and wait to pick up my giro on a Monday morning from postie". Everyone has dreams to achieve something and for reasons, some beyond our control, many people fail to make it, for whatever reason. I think it's ignorant to suggest that 'huge numbers' of people are just out and out milking the system for banter. It's just not true. I have family friends who receive benefits and the main reason, is because their skills are highly practical but their roles have been replaced by automated systems or moved abroad in some cases. They tried to keep up with the times, so a good friend of my dads was let go from the foundry about 25 or so years ago when the industry ramped down, he eventually found work as truck mechanic which lasted for a number of years.... until he was again let go due to downsizing. By this point, approaching his 60's he found it very hard to even get interviews because he's not IT literate. He can switch on and operate a computer, but jobs now expect interviewees to have a strong understanding of Microsoft Office for example, which he simply doesn't have. He can just about browse the Internet and write a Word Document and print it. So you've now got a bloke, now in his early to mid 60's with excellent practical skills, but nowhere he can really use them. He's not qualified to go and work in a car garage because he didn't get a qualification as a mechanic. There's no real sheet metal work available these days. He's not IT literate enough to work somewhere like an office job. The only roles he can get now are pub work for example, and they're just not sustainable forms of income. They don't even guarantee 5 days a week. So yes, he claims benefits. Here's a guy who worked all his life and was subsequently spat out by the system a few years ago... after working in all weathers, outside, including night shifts where the temperature was bitterly cold at the expense of his own health (he has arthritis in both his hands; 100% down to working as a mechanic in the cold in winter). Now.... tell me he's a scrounger taking the piss out of the benefits system mate Sounds like you've just described the kind of person Harry was referring to when he said "Look after the needy absolutely". |
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Post by Northy on Oct 23, 2018 12:54:38 GMT
You know what Huddy you've convinced me. It's not the EU we should be cutting down it's the fucking welfare budget!! Death to the fatties as well  |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 23, 2018 12:55:36 GMT
No shit, Shylock? For nearly 5 million people - most of whom were not allowed to vote - the uncertainty is where they will be living and working next year, where there kids will be going to school, where they will feel welcome etc. This has been created by the spineless politicians who instigated a referendum without bothering to consider the consequences. Very democratic! Theresa May long ago stated that EU citizens that were living in the UK could remain after Brexit, you must have missed that bit of news then ... Correct that they weren't allowed to vote until they are British Citizens. Half of our own kids don't know where they are going to go to school, mass immigration (and not getting ready for it beforehand) has caused that one hasn't it. No mate, I didn't miss that bit of news. "long ago" 2016 Gove and his cronies were pitching for brexit and in this document claimed that:- "there will be no change for EU citizens already lawfully resident in the UK. These EU citizens will automatically be granted indefinite leave to remain in the UK and will be treated no less favourably than they are at present." Come June 2017 and claims were made by Theresa May that the 3m EU27 nationals in the UK will be given the right to stay permanently and will be treated like British citizens ( randow media link here) One year on and EU27 UK residents have to apply to the Home Office for settled status (at 65 quid a time - half price for adults) and the list of documents being accepted as proof of residency is getting smaller all the time - think Windrush! Correct that they weren't allowed to vote until they are British citizens - also correct that many Commonwealth nationals, so not British, were allowed to vote! Mass immigration has been allowed to happen because various UK governments, since 2004, failed to implement EU regulations which have successfully controlled mass immigration in practically every other EU state. |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 23, 2018 14:26:45 GMT
[quote author=" rogerjonesisgod" source="/post/6225102/thread" timestamp="1540290858"]You know what Huddy you've convinced me. It's not the EU we should be cutting down it's the fucking welfare budget!! Death to the fatties as well [/quote] Killl Them all? |
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Post by Northy on Oct 23, 2018 16:08:21 GMT
[quote author=" rogerjonesisgod" source="/post/6225102/thread" timestamp="1540290858"]You know what Huddy you've convinced me. It's not the EU we should be cutting down it's the fucking welfare budget!! Death to the fatties as well Killl Them all? [/quote] Oh yes, and throw them to the floor first. |
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Post by capto on Oct 23, 2018 16:20:48 GMT
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/explosive-device-found-at-residence-of-george-soros-liberal-philanthropist-and-target-of-far-right/ar-BBOLBxA?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPDHP17Loz Argyle @argyleloz James Dyson is building his new car in Singapore, Nigel Lawson is seeking residency in France, Jacob Rees-Mogg has moved some business interests to Ireland, John Redwood has urged clients to move their money into the EU, all of the above are rabid brexiters, going well isn't it? Otto English @otto_English This is incredible. Stuart Rose - chair of the Remain campaign was a founding member of Business for Britain - a Leave campaign - that was formed 3 years before the EU referendum. Presumably others have spotted this before. European Movement MK #FBPE #PeoplesVote @euromove_MK · Very significant. Japanese firms are supremely diplomatic and politically low profile. For Nissan to allow Remain event with @femi_Sorry and @jasonjhunter to take place ON THEIR PREMISES is huge! And shows Nissan know what needs to happen #StopBrexit Massive coup for @ne4eu 1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 23, 2018 16:22:26 GMT
Italy budget rejected in unprecedented European Commission move Which goes to prove you can't have your Panettone and eat it. Pity: Why does Italy want to spend more?The new government has vowed to "end poverty" with a minimum income for the unemployed.
Other measures include tax cuts and scrapping extensions to the retirement age - fulfilling several key campaign promises from the election in March.
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Post by yeokel on Oct 23, 2018 16:49:23 GMT
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/explosive-device-found-at-residence-of-george-soros-liberal-philanthropist-and-target-of-far-right/ar-BBOLBxA?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPDHP17Loz Argyle @argyleloz James Dyson is building his new car in Singapore, Nigel Lawson is seeking residency in France, Jacob Rees-Mogg has moved some business interests to Ireland, John Redwood has urged clients to move their money into the EU, all of the above are rabid brexiters, going well isn't it? Otto English @otto_English This is incredible. Stuart Rose - chair of the Remain campaign was a founding member of Business for Britain - a Leave campaign - that was formed 3 years before the EU referendum. Presumably others have spotted this before. European Movement MK #FBPE #PeoplesVote @euromove_MK · Very significant. Japanese firms are supremely diplomatic and politically low profile. For Nissan to allow Remain event with @femi_Sorry and @jasonjhunter to take place ON THEIR PREMISES is huge! And shows Nissan know what needs to happen #StopBrexit Massive coup for @ne4eu 1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie? Am I the only one who thinks the above is complete nonsense? It appears to be a random collection of letters and symbols, some of which seem to make recognisable words and some of which appear to be utter gibberish to me! |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 23, 2018 17:41:25 GMT
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/explosive-device-found-at-residence-of-george-soros-liberal-philanthropist-and-target-of-far-right/ar-BBOLBxA?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPDHP17Loz Argyle @argyleloz James Dyson is building his new car in Singapore, Nigel Lawson is seeking residency in France, Jacob Rees-Mogg has moved some business interests to Ireland, John Redwood has urged clients to move their money into the EU, all of the above are rabid brexiters, going well isn't it? Otto English @otto_English This is incredible. Stuart Rose - chair of the Remain campaign was a founding member of Business for Britain - a Leave campaign - that was formed 3 years before the EU referendum. Presumably others have spotted this before. European Movement MK #FBPE #PeoplesVote @euromove_MK · Very significant. Japanese firms are supremely diplomatic and politically low profile. For Nissan to allow Remain event with @femi_Sorry and @jasonjhunter to take place ON THEIR PREMISES is huge! And shows Nissan know what needs to happen #StopBrexit Massive coup for @ne4eu 1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie? Am I the only one who thinks the above is complete nonsense? It appears to be a random collection of letters and symbols, some of which seem to make recognisable words and some of which appear to be utter gibberish to me! I don't actually read it so I'll take your word Yeovil. I usually agree with you. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 23, 2018 18:08:59 GMT
95% there though!
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 23, 2018 18:27:50 GMT
This is too simple and factual for the Brexiteers huddy ... The fact that we spend a miniscule of our wealth on the EU contribution is of no consequence... Sovereignty. That's all that counts. If it destroys our economy and isolates us from our European friends it is of no consequence. Blinkered, nationalistic, jingoist, isolationist UKIP driven mob incitement that will take our country back to the dark ages. |
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Post by yeokel on Oct 23, 2018 18:30:08 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks the above is complete nonsense? It appears to be a random collection of letters and symbols, some of which seem to make recognisable words and some of which appear to be utter gibberish to me! I don't actually read it so I'll take your word Yeovil. I usually agree with you. Thanks BJR  I'm sure you're right to do so. If only the missus would learn the same lesson  |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 23, 2018 18:31:58 GMT
I don't actually read it so I'll take your word Yeovil. I usually agree with you. Thanks BJR I'm sure you're right to do so. If only the missus would learn the same lesson Do you know BJR's missus then? |
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Post by yeokel on Oct 23, 2018 18:34:31 GMT
This is too simple and factual for the Brexiteers huddy ... The fact that we spend a miniscule of our wealth on the EU contribution is of no consequence... Sovereignty. That's all that counts. If it destroys our economy and isolates us from our European friends it is of no consequence. Blinkered, nationalistic, jingoist, isolationist UKIP driven mob incitement that will take out country back to the dark ages. You missed out 'racist' and 'xenophobic'. You need both of those for the full set! |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 23, 2018 18:38:29 GMT
Thanks BJR I'm sure you're right to do so. If only the missus would learn the same lesson Do you know BJR's missus then? He must do, seems to have got her weighed up. |
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 23, 2018 18:40:49 GMT
This is too simple and factual for the Brexiteers huddy ... The fact that we spend a miniscule of our wealth on the EU contribution is of no consequence... Sovereignty. That's all that counts. If it destroys our economy and isolates us from our European friends it is of no consequence. Blinkered, nationalistic, jingoist, isolationist UKIP driven mob incitement that will take our country back to the dark ages. As the saying goes,you can lead a man to knowledge but you cannot make him think,judging by comments on here i can see why Stoke was the Brexit capital  |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 23, 2018 18:43:28 GMT
This is too simple and factual for the Brexiteers huddy ... The fact that we spend a miniscule of our wealth on the EU contribution is of no consequence... Sovereignty. That's all that counts. If it destroys our economy and isolates us from our European friends it is of no consequence. Blinkered, nationalistic, jingoist, isolationist UKIP driven mob incitement that will take out country back to the dark ages. Well I’m looking on the bright side if we head back to the dark ages we won’t have to read the total drivel you post |
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 23, 2018 19:45:34 GMT
This is too simple and factual for the Brexiteers huddy ... The fact that we spend a miniscule of our wealth on the EU contribution is of no consequence... Sovereignty. That's all that counts. If it destroys our economy and isolates us from our European friends it is of no consequence. Blinkered, nationalistic, jingoist, isolationist UKIP driven mob incitement that will take out country back to the dark ages. You missed out 'racist' and 'xenophobic'. You need both of those for the full set! Well.. considering one of your prominent Brexiteers posted on this message board a few days ago that he couldn't give a **** if there is barbed wire fences and machine gun posts on the Northern Irish border then you may be correct. |
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Post by felonious on Oct 23, 2018 19:52:47 GMT
I don't actually read it so I'll take your word Yeovil. I usually agree with you. Thanks BJR I'm sure you're right to do so. If only the missus would learn the same lesson I don't read them either but I guessed immediately it's a Capto post your referring to. Apologies if it's an Essexstokie post  |
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Post by felonious on Oct 23, 2018 19:54:00 GMT
Thanks BJR I'm sure you're right to do so. If only the missus would learn the same lesson Do you know BJR's missus then? Is yeokel a swinger as well then? |
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Post by felonious on Oct 23, 2018 19:59:10 GMT
Italy budget rejected in unprecedented European Commission move Which goes to prove you can't have your Panettone and eat it. Pity: Why does Italy want to spend more?The new government has vowed to "end poverty" with a minimum income for the unemployed.
Other measures include tax cuts and scrapping extensions to the retirement age - fulfilling several key campaign promises from the election in March. "This is the first Italian budget that the EU doesn't like," wrote Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio on Facebook. "No surprise: This is the first Italian budget written in Rome and not in Brussels!"
Perhaps the time has now been reached whereby all political parties across the EU states should be required to submit there manifestos to Brussels for approval.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 23, 2018 20:29:47 GMT
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/explosive-device-found-at-residence-of-george-soros-liberal-philanthropist-and-target-of-far-right/ar-BBOLBxA?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPDHP17Loz Argyle @argyleloz James Dyson is building his new car in Singapore, Nigel Lawson is seeking residency in France, Jacob Rees-Mogg has moved some business interests to Ireland, John Redwood has urged clients to move their money into the EU, all of the above are rabid brexiters, going well isn't it? Otto English @otto_English This is incredible. Stuart Rose - chair of the Remain campaign was a founding member of Business for Britain - a Leave campaign - that was formed 3 years before the EU referendum. Presumably others have spotted this before. European Movement MK #FBPE #PeoplesVote @euromove_MK · Very significant. Japanese firms are supremely diplomatic and politically low profile. For Nissan to allow Remain event with @femi_Sorry and @jasonjhunter to take place ON THEIR PREMISES is huge! And shows Nissan know what needs to happen #StopBrexit Massive coup for @ne4eu 1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie? A couple of things just jumped out at me here, Dyson is doing the same thing with building cars as his other products, he follows a British version of the Apple model, design and develop in Britain, build in the far east and he's been doing this for a long time. That meek and mild nice Japanese company, Nissan, have been controlled by the Renault for years. Renault have extremely close ties to the French Government, in fact Renault used to be a nationalised industry and the Government still holds 15% of Renault's share capital. Facts eh? |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 23, 2018 20:33:40 GMT
Italy budget rejected in unprecedented European Commission move Which goes to prove you can't have your Panettone and eat it. Pity: Why does Italy want to spend more?The new government has vowed to "end poverty" with a minimum income for the unemployed.
Other measures include tax cuts and scrapping extensions to the retirement age - fulfilling several key campaign promises from the election in March. "This is the first Italian budget that the EU doesn't like," wrote Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio on Facebook. "No surprise: This is the first Italian budget written in Rome and not in Brussels!"
Perhaps the time has now been reached whereby all political parties across the EU states should be required to submit there manifestos to Brussels for approval.
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