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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2018 21:56:26 GMT
In other news the slimeball French president macron has declared in the event of a no deal brexit all British citizens living in France will become illegal immigrants. Those twats have very short memories don't they . The thousands of North African immigrants seem to be able to live there without any problems That's not true now is it? Which bit ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 22:53:15 GMT
1. Moldova isn't a real country. 2. Leave means leave couldn't have written a better puff piece on the importance of British sovereignty. 3. Moldova isn't a real country. |
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Post by Davef on Oct 19, 2018 7:10:52 GMT
That's not true now is it? Which bit ? The first paragraph. |
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2018 7:41:59 GMT
Anyone speak complete unadulterated bullshit? I think we could do with a translator here! One things for sure , she won't be around to see it through I've heard on the radio this morning that David Davis is being suggested as an interim PM. |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 19, 2018 7:51:06 GMT
One things for sure , she won't be around to see it through I've heard on the radio this morning that David Davis is being suggested as an interim PM. Considering that he is leaving at the next election (his words) will be a very short term pm  |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 19, 2018 8:22:43 GMT
We are not going to leave are we, we are going to be worse off. The sad losers who cant accept democracy are marching in London at the weekend, no doubt the BBC will be all over it. This sort of "democracy"? Oh the old facebook / twitter influenced the referendum bollocks bought to you by the people who insist it was the old people who voted for brexit, I mean those 80 year olds are never off twitter are they. |
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2018 8:41:08 GMT
I've heard on the radio this morning that David Davis is being suggested as an interim PM. Considering that he is leaving at the next election (his words) will be a very short term pm What about the word "interim" do you not understand?  |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 19, 2018 8:42:33 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 19, 2018 13:52:11 GMT
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Incase anyone's wondering why this post is now a white space I'll put an edit in here as I'm guessing that the offical Twitter account for "The People's Vote" have finally seen sense & realised that using a 5-year old kid to push their agenda wasn't the best idea. (Even the Remain voters in the comments weren't happy!)
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 19, 2018 14:34:30 GMT
One things for sure , she won't be around to see it through I've heard on the radio this morning that David Davis is being suggested as an interim PM. He only works a 3 day week doesn't he |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 19, 2018 14:44:07 GMT
Macron has subsequently said it's fake news .lets see |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 19, 2018 20:36:28 GMT
I picked up from somewhere in the media today that if our membership during the transition period is extended, our financial contribution will not include the large rebate we normally receive. Our net contribution would increase massively.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 19, 2018 20:45:46 GMT
What are the main arguments against having the ability to extend the transition period if it's needed?
Given there is an argument that Brexit is very much about the long-term gains, with a possible short-term set back shortly after we leave, why does it matter if the transition period finishes one, two or even five years later than planned? Was it Rees-Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 50 years? Does it really make a difference if that becomes 55 years?
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 19, 2018 21:17:51 GMT
What are the main arguments against having the ability to extend the transition period if it's needed? Given there is an argument that Brexit is very much about the long-term gains, with a possible short-term set back shortly after we leave, why does it matter if the transition period finishes one, two or even five years later than planned? Was it Rees-Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 50 years? Does it really make a difference if that becomes 55 years? If the Eu thinks another three months is needed than fair enough I would presume as a act of good will the Eu will impose no bill for such a helpful extension |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 19, 2018 21:28:49 GMT
What are the main arguments against having the ability to extend the transition period if it's needed? Given there is an argument that Brexit is very much about the long-term gains, with a possible short-term set back shortly after we leave, why does it matter if the transition period finishes one, two or even five years later than planned? Was it Rees-Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 50 years? Does it really make a difference if that becomes 55 years? If the Eu thinks another three months is needed than fair enough I would presume as a act of good will the Eu will impose no bill for such a helpful extension Isn't the need for an extension more coming from our side? |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 19, 2018 21:55:08 GMT
What are the main arguments against having the ability to extend the transition period if it's needed? Given there is an argument that Brexit is very much about the long-term gains, with a possible short-term set back shortly after we leave, why does it matter if the transition period finishes one, two or even five years later than planned? Was it Rees-Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 50 years? Does it really make a difference if that becomes 55 years? Why should an extension be needed? We've had over two years of negotiations, if you can't sort differences over a two year period there's a good chance they won't ever be sorted. Cameron found how intrasigent the EU are when he desperately needed their help. Why anyone would want to belong to such an autocratic club is beyond me. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 19, 2018 22:00:37 GMT
What are the main arguments against having the ability to extend the transition period if it's needed? Given there is an argument that Brexit is very much about the long-term gains, with a possible short-term set back shortly after we leave, why does it matter if the transition period finishes one, two or even five years later than planned? Was it Rees-Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 50 years? Does it really make a difference if that becomes 55 years? Why should an extension be needed? We've had over two years of negotiations, if you can't sort differences over a two year period there's a good chance they won't ever be sorted. Cameron found how intrasigent the EU are when he desperately needed their help. Why anyone would want to belong to such an autocratic club is beyond me. From our side, most of the two years have been pissed away negotiating within the Tory cabinet haven't they? I remember about a month ago May was triumphantly declaring that the Cabinet had fully backed her negotiating strategy for Brexit - this was over two years after the original vote. So if an extension is needed, I can't see past Tory half-arsery as the main reason why. |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 19, 2018 22:06:51 GMT
Why should an extension be needed? We've had over two years of negotiations, if you can't sort differences over a two year period there's a good chance they won't ever be sorted. Cameron found how intrasigent the EU are when he desperately needed their help. Why anyone would want to belong to such an autocratic club is beyond me. From our side, most of the two years have been pissed away negotiating within the Tory cabinet haven't they? I remember about a month ago May was triumphantly declaring that the Cabinet had fully backed her negotiating strategy for Brexit - this was over two years after the original vote. So if an extension is needed, I can't see past Tory half-arsery as the main reason why. I quite agree, May has been a complete and utter disaster, unfortunatley half-arsery turns to ineptitude when you look at Corbyn. Very few in Westminster had the stomach for Brexit and we've been wailing and weeping for two years and the EU have sensed blood. Give the public a vote but watch the establishment fuck it up. |
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Post by banksofengland on Oct 19, 2018 22:41:48 GMT
When you question a relationship and the other person doesn't make an effort to repair it don't you think you should leave?
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Post by Northy on Oct 20, 2018 6:17:19 GMT
We are not going to leave are we, we are going to be worse off. The sad losers who cant accept democracy are marching in London at the weekend, no doubt the BBC will be all over it. Or this sort of "democracy"? View AttachmentAh the old remoaners bollocks being peddled out again. I wonder who put that together and who they asked. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 20, 2018 6:18:47 GMT
Makes you want to spew up. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 20, 2018 6:20:22 GMT
Jesus Christ, they're not still going on about the Russians?!  You sad bastards need to step outside of your little echo-chambers & venture out into the real world every now & again, once there you'll realise that everyone who has a different opinion to you isn't a "far-right Nazi", and every decision that doesn't go your way isn't because of "Russian interference". For about 5 million people, including the 3 million EU citizens who live in the UK, and over 1.5 million Brits living in the EU, what you call the "real world" is a world of uncertainty and confusion and in some cases genuine fear for the future - who is really in an "echo-chamber" here? The only uncertainty has been created by spineless politicians who won't accept a democratic vote of leaving the EU |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 20, 2018 6:23:53 GMT
For about 5 million people, including the 3 million EU citizens who live in the UK, and over 1.5 million Brits living in the EU, what you call the "real world" is a world of uncertainty and confusion and in some cases genuine fear for the future - who is really in an "echo-chamber" here? The only uncertainty has been created by spineless politicians who won't accept a democratic vote of leaving the EU As it stands, we're leaving the EU. So the result of the referendum is being enacted, it's the process of leaving (which has never been voted on) which is the sticking point. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 20, 2018 10:02:01 GMT
Mays a laughing stock, she tells anyone who bothers talking to her exactly what they want to hear, and then wanders off in search of someone else who'll listen to her and tells them the polar opposite. I can't believe anyone can rise to be PM who is so incompetent. The only thing funnier than her joke of a negotiation is when she gets angry.
We really need to look at the people who've become PM over the past couple of decades- Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, and see that theres something wrong with British politics when these fruitcakes can hold the highest office.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 11:10:33 GMT
Mays a laughing stock, she tells anyone who bothers talking to her exactly what they want to hear, and then wanders off in search of someone else who'll listen to her and tells them the polar opposite. I can't believe anyone can rise to be PM who is so incompetent. The only thing funnier than her joke of a negotiation is when she gets angry. We really need to look at the people who've become PM over the past couple of decades- Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, and see that theres something wrong with British politics when these fruitcakes can hold the highest office. I disagree. I think she's a very clever woman. No leader acts as stupid as she has acted over there reign She has a plan The plan is and always was....to remain |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 20, 2018 11:26:08 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45925542BBC buzzing at this demonstration..... Billions and billions of people will be there if you trust the Beeb, although realistically about 2000 will be there.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2018 11:35:36 GMT
Why should an extension be needed? We've had over two years of negotiations, if you can't sort differences over a two year period there's a good chance they won't ever be sorted. Cameron found how intrasigent the EU are when he desperately needed their help. Why anyone would want to belong to such an autocratic club is beyond me. From our side, most of the two years have been pissed away negotiating within the Tory cabinet haven't they? I remember about a month ago May was triumphantly declaring that the Cabinet had fully backed her negotiating strategy for Brexit - this was over two years after the original vote. So if an extension is needed, I can't see past Tory half-arsery as the main reason why. Absolutely true. The internal machinations of the Tory Party are as much to blame for the absolute nalls up of negotiations as anything else. It doesn't help when you have a Government so incompetent that the main sticking point is the very thing THEY agreed to last december. Staunch leavers can throw as much shit about as they like about pesky Europeans, remoaners, The Labour Party and anyone else but the brutal fact is that this incompetent weak as piss Governemnt has let them down. |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 20, 2018 11:45:29 GMT
For about 5 million people, including the 3 million EU citizens who live in the UK, and over 1.5 million Brits living in the EU, what you call the "real world" is a world of uncertainty and confusion and in some cases genuine fear for the future - who is really in an "echo-chamber" here? The only uncertainty has been created by spineless politicians who won't accept a democratic vote of leaving the EU No shit, Shylock? For nearly 5 million people - most of whom were not allowed to vote - the uncertainty is where they will be living and working next year, where there kids will be going to school, where they will feel welcome etc. This has been created by the spineless politicians who instigated a referendum without bothering to consider the consequences. Very democratic! |
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 20, 2018 12:53:16 GMT
So, some 100,000 or more have turned up or will do to demonstrate....a noble effort.
According to government statistics the number eligible to vote in the UK when the Brexit vote took place was 46,500,000. The electoral commission figures were 16,141,241 (48.1%) remain and 17,410,742 (51.9%) leave.
Therefore, this 100,000 or so marching today equates to just over 0.2% of the entire electorate or 0.6% of the entire leave vote who voted. At what point should any government be swayed by such comparively small percentages in a democracy when the numbers today don’t even seem to massively reflect the remain position?
I get that not everyone can make the demonstration, but I would have expected far greater numbers,or have restrictions been put in place to stop the other 17 million from turning up that might suggest a more realistic change in the nations views on this?
PS....sorry if my maths is out....lots of zeros and I have a hangover!
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 20, 2018 13:00:32 GMT
So, some 100,000 or more have turned up or will do to demonstrate....a noble effort. According to government statistics the number eligible to vote in the UK when the Brexit vote took place was 46,500,000. The electoral commission figures were 16,141,241 (48.1%) remain and 17,410,742 (51.9%) leave. Therefore, this 100,000 or marching today equates to just over 0.2% of the entire electorate or 0.6% of the entire leave vote who voted. At what point should any government be swayed by such comparively small percentages in a democracy when the numbers today don’t even seem to massively reflect the remain position? I get that not everyone can make the demonstration, but I would have expected far greater numbers,or have restrictions been put in place to stop the other 17 million from turning up that might suggest a more realistic change in the nations views on this? PS....sorry if my maths is out....lots of zeros and I have a hangover! I did think 100,000 was on the low side but I've also seen 500,000 reported today. Guess it's going to be difficult to get a proper number, it's always going to be in certain people's interests to say higher or lower figures. |
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