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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 18, 2018 12:20:41 GMT
4000 eh? I wonder if some genius is able work out the exact impact of these and offset them against the official pro Europe literature we got through the post from the Government at the time. Maybe the question should be asked why the masses chose not to believe the Government position rather than what goes on social media. Don't forget to factor in the leave campaigns overspend [/quote] Considerably less effect than the peice of Eu propaganda published by the Cameron government to try to get a remain vote And the government leaflet cost far more than any leave campaign over spend [/quote] I couldn't even watch classic boxing on YouTube without being urged to remain. It was incessant throughout the media.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 18, 2018 12:20:59 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 18, 2018 12:26:15 GMT
Stick that on yer fucking bus!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 18, 2018 12:26:53 GMT
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 18, 2018 12:43:54 GMT
4000 eh? I wonder if some genius is able work out the exact impact of these and offset them against the official pro Europe literature we got through the post from the Government at the time. Maybe the question should be asked why the masses chose not to believe the Government position rather than what goes on social media. Don't forget to factor in the leave campaigns overspend Considerably less effect than the peice of Eu propaganda published by the Cameron government to try to get a remain vote And the government leaflet cost far more than any leave campaign over spend [/quote] I couldn't even watch classic boxing on YouTube without being urged to remain. It was incessant throughout the media. [/quote] Being an expat, I never got the government hype. All I wanted was a vote!
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 18, 2018 12:45:51 GMT
[/quote]Clarity is much better than uncertainty and confusion isn't it!
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It would be, yes.
Nothing personal but I hope you're right about your toes.
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 18, 2018 12:47:06 GMT
I think we might be at the start of the end game, Politically at least, with all of this. Hope so. This is all getting way to silly.
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 18, 2018 13:10:02 GMT
And yet it is the vote leave campaign which is being investigated for electoral fraud
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 18, 2018 13:14:02 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 18, 2018 13:23:45 GMT
State of this twat
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Oct 18, 2018 13:32:44 GMT
4000 eh? I wonder if some genius is able work out the exact impact of these and offset them against the official pro Europe literature we got through the post from the Government at the time. Maybe the question should be asked why the masses chose not to believe the Government position rather than what goes on social media. Don't forget to factor in the leave campaigns overspend [/quote] Considerably less effect than the peice of Eu propaganda published by the Cameron government to try to get a remain vote And the government leaflet cost far more than any leave campaign over spend [/quote] And this item that clearly laid out the effect of voting leave meant (out of ECJ jurisdiction, out of the ECM, out of the freedom of movement etc etc) is constantly and conveniently overlooked! The constant argument that it did not form part of the campaign is disingenuous at the very least as it was clearly biased towards staying in as it laid out what Cameron’s government wanted and that was to remain.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 18, 2018 13:34:16 GMT
Yes, by the hate peddling Daily Mail, Express etc. I love the way the media like to use the old chestnut of....."the bogie man" to control As fucking IF! Russia have persuaded .millions to vote to leave the eu Remainers scraping the barrel so much it's embarrassing Dave......that's a all the fucking same mate, not just the right....wake the fuck up What?
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 18, 2018 14:13:30 GMT
They say the majority of people who voted leave are the elderly .... Don't you think the propaganda theyve been fed over 40 years from the eu has made their mind up? 'Blame the Russians' 🙄 🤣🤣🤣 NO i voted remain and i am pushing seventy,more propaganda from Bonkers Boris and his gang of liars. Peoples vote coming soon
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Post by hammered on Oct 18, 2018 14:21:30 GMT
370 pages of rinse, repeat - no one from what I can see on here has changed their mind from 2016, suggesting all the additional diatribe we've been fed from both sides since, has had little affect on original voting. It's worth repeating that the largest voting turnout in UK history voted LEAVE.
We've served Article 50 (belatedly under duress) passed leaving into an Act of P and are seemingly no further forward two years later. The same issues/challenges existed in 2016 as they do now but May cleverly bought extra time to drag this out with the GE (nearly backfired) but it destroyed the UKIP floating vote and the primary voice of Brexit. Aided by an MSM with vested interests and an opposition doing a duplicitous okey, cokey as useful idiots, keeps this charade playing out.
In any other business the incumbent charged with delivering the remit "LEAVE" would have been long gone but not it seems when you're imo bought in and paid for by the city/corporate/EU/globalist masters to stitch up the electorate, steal the assets and drain the coffers - the longer this goes on the more transparent this becomes.
The EU has demonstrated through continued rhetoric its non pliant terms for the "not on the ballot paper Checkers/BRINO or soft BREXIT" which would leave us (as intended) as a vassal state when the only true execution of the referendum is to break free completely ensuring our right to self determination and sovereignty. Trade deals can follow - nothing to do with the Brexit decision.
In the meantime, the EU's mission to destroy cultural identity (call it diversity) with open borders and unabated 3rd world migration to homogenise Europe's nation states under Brussels's rule accelerates. As the indigenous populous get finally fed-up with their "new normal" and awake to the treachery of western civilisation being unpicked stitch by stitch, the common sense of voters and governments of Poland, Austria, Czech, Slovak, Italy, Hungary (big swings towards conservatism in parts of Germany) etc.. is a reaction towards this forced change. But rather than dialogue and solutions from the EU, it's met with sinister threats and sanctions.
The EU only want our money, Nukes and subservience and this is our one chance IMO to break free from the freak show. And if we don't take it fully now, imo future generations (assuming history isn't re-written) will look back on this period with regret.
The EU is doing what the EU does - no one should be shocked by the intransigent stance or cynical rhetoric - the failure to deliver BREXIT is purely our own government and establishment enacting and enabling their own self interest above that of the vote.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 14:28:33 GMT
I love the way the media like to use the old chestnut of....."the bogie man" to control As fucking IF! Russia have persuaded .millions to vote to leave the eu Remainers scraping the barrel so much it's embarrassing Dave......that's a all the fucking same mate, not just the right....wake the fuck up What? They're' i meant, not that
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 18, 2018 14:30:54 GMT
370 pages of rinse, repeat - no one from what I can see on here has changed their mind from 2016, suggesting all the additional diatribe we've been fed from both sides since, has had little affect on original voting. It's worth repeating that the largest voting turnout in UK history voted LEAVE. We've served Article 50 (belatedly under duress) passed leaving into an Act of P and are seemingly no further forward two years later. The same issues/challenges existed in 2016 as they do now but May cleverly bought extra time to drag this out with the GE (nearly backfired) but it destroyed the UKIP floating vote and the primary voice of Brexit. Aided by an MSM with vested interests and an opposition doing a duplicitous okey, cokey as useful idiots, keeps this charade playing out. In any other business the incumbent charged with delivering the remit "LEAVE" would have been long gone but not it seems when you're imo bought in and paid for by the city/corporate/EU/globalist masters to stitch up the electorate, steal the assets and drain the coffers - the longer this goes on the more transparent this becomes. The EU has demonstrated through continued rhetoric its non pliant terms for the "not on the ballot paper Checkers/BRINO or soft BREXIT" which would leave us (as intended) as a vassal state when the only true execution of the referendum is to break free completely ensuring our right to self determination and sovereignty. Trade deals can follow - nothing to do with the Brexit decision. In the meantime, the EU's mission to destroy cultural identity (call it diversity) with open borders and unabated 3rd world migration to homogenise Europe's nation states under Brussels's rule accelerates. As the indigenous populous get finally fed-up with their "new normal" and awake to the treachery of western civilisation being unpicked stitch by stitch, the common sense of voters and governments of Poland, Austria, Czech, Slovak, Italy, Hungary (big swings towards conservatism in parts of Germany) etc.. is a reaction towards this forced change. But rather than dialogue and solutions from the EU, it's met with sinister threats and sanctions. The EU only want our money, Nukes and subservience and this is our one chance IMO to break free from the freak show. And if we don't take it fully now, imo future generations (assuming history isn't re-written) will look back on this period with regret. The EU is doing what the EU does - no one should be shocked by the intransigent stance or cynical rhetoric - the failure to deliver BREXIT is purely our own government and establishment enacting and enabling their own self interest above that of the vote. Excellent analysis again Hammered. imho
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2018 14:35:17 GMT
370 pages of rinse, repeat - no one from what I can see on here has changed their mind from 2016, suggesting all the additional diatribe we've been fed from both sides since, has had little affect on original voting. It's worth repeating that the largest voting turnout in UK history voted LEAVE. We've served Article 50 (belatedly under duress) passed leaving into an Act of P and are seemingly no further forward two years later. The same issues/challenges existed in 2016 as they do now but May cleverly bought extra time to drag this out with the GE (nearly backfired) but it destroyed the UKIP floating vote and the primary voice of Brexit. Aided by an MSM with vested interests and an opposition doing a duplicitous okey, cokey as useful idiots, keeps this charade playing out. In any other business the incumbent charged with delivering the remit "LEAVE" would have been long gone but not it seems when you're imo bought in and paid for by the city/corporate/EU/globalist masters to stitch up the electorate, steal the assets and drain the coffers - the longer this goes on the more transparent this becomes. The EU has demonstrated through continued rhetoric its non pliant terms for the "not on the ballot paper Checkers/BRINO or soft BREXIT" which would leave us (as intended) as a vassal state when the only true execution of the referendum is to break free completely ensuring our right to self determination and sovereignty. Trade deals can follow - nothing to do with the Brexit decision. In the meantime, the EU's mission to destroy cultural identity (call it diversity) with open borders and unabated 3rd world migration to homogenise Europe's nation states under Brussels's rule accelerates. As the indigenous populous get finally fed-up with their "new normal" and awake to the treachery of western civilisation being unpicked stitch by stitch, the common sense of voters and governments of Poland, Austria, Czech, Slovak, Italy, Hungary (big swings towards conservatism in parts of Germany) etc.. is a reaction towards this forced change. But rather than dialogue and solutions from the EU, it's met with sinister threats and sanctions. The EU only want our money, Nukes and subservience and this is our one chance IMO to break free from the freak show. And if we don't take it fully now, imo future generations (assuming history isn't re-written) will look back on this period with regret. The EU is doing what the EU does - no one should be shocked by the intransigent stance or cynical rhetoric - the failure to deliver BREXIT is purely our own government and establishment enacting and enabling their own self interest above that of the vote. I think it's a fine assessment of where we are at this point in time . These so called negotiations were never carried out in good faith . The vested interests of Germany , France and Ireland have hog tied the negotiations from day one . Further talks are pointless and demeaning . We look weak and needy . We just need to walk away next march , keep our billions and let the crooks in Brussels work out the Irish border
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 18, 2018 14:38:06 GMT
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Post by capto on Oct 18, 2018 16:07:12 GMT
www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2018/10/18/remarks-by-president-donald-tusk-after-the-european-council-meetings-on-17-and-18-october-2018/www.facebook.com/groups/BHforEU/permalink/1691716080939667/James Melville @jamesmelville · The irony of Brexiters hating being told what to do by “unelected bureaucrats” from the EU (who are elected) based in Brussels, but seemingly being happy about being told what to do by “unelected bureaucrats” from the WTO (who really are unelected) based in Geneva. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/how-tiny-moldova-s-brexit-grudge-could-cost-u-k-1-7-trillionNick Boles MPVerified account @nickboles So the government is going to propose a €17 billion extension to the transition but refuse a £2 billion bail out of Universal Credit- good luck with that! 169,854 Brexit Job Losses 🇬🇧 @mrhickmott · 169,854 Brexit Job Losses 🇬🇧 Retweeted Leeds for Europe #FBPE 🇪🇺. Four coaches coming from Leeds. Four from Manchester. Six from Bristol. Coaches from all over the country. This is going to be magnificent. Be there - so you can tell your children's children you did your bit. #PeoplesVoteMarch 1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie?
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2018 16:15:15 GMT
In other news the slimeball French president macron has declared in the event of a no deal brexit all British citizens living in France will become illegal immigrants. Those twats have very short memories don't they . The thousands of North African immigrants seem to be able to live there without any problems
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 18, 2018 16:18:46 GMT
Anyone speak complete unadulterated bullshit? I think we could do with a translator here!
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2018 17:05:28 GMT
Anyone speak complete unadulterated bullshit? I think we could do with a translator here! One things for sure , she won't be around to see it through
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Post by pearo on Oct 18, 2018 17:28:30 GMT
In other news the slimeball French president macron has declared in the event of a no deal brexit all British citizens living in France will become illegal immigrants. Those twats have very short memories don't they . The thousands of North African immigrants seem to be able to live there without any problems Well surely in the event of a no deal brexit that would make all EU citizens living in the UK illegal immigrants too
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:30:56 GMT
In other news the slimeball French president macron has declared in the event of a no deal brexit all British citizens living in France will become illegal immigrants. Those twats have very short memories don't they . The thousands of North African immigrants seem to be able to live there without any problems That all be nowt said about the Brussels boys Harry The eu can't do no wrong
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:33:52 GMT
Anyone speak complete unadulterated bullshit? I think we could do with a translator here! One things for sure , she won't be around to see it through She's a fucking disgrace and needs fucking off and then some.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 18, 2018 18:25:37 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 18, 2018 18:55:35 GMT
This isn't complicated. The British people voted out, and their elected representatives don't want to honour their wishes.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 18, 2018 19:24:14 GMT
This isn't complicated. The British people voted out, and their elected representatives don't want to honour their wishes. In a nutshell. The repercussions of this establishment stitch up could reverberate for years.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 18, 2018 19:28:32 GMT
Come on Mo, what's the problem here?? Let's face it, anyone who's against Thatcher's face on a 50 pound note isn't likely to have one in their pocket anyway 😉 #thatsquitefunny #yesitwasajoke #50poundsdoesntbuyyoumuchanyway
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Post by Davef on Oct 18, 2018 20:54:41 GMT
In other news the slimeball French president macron has declared in the event of a no deal brexit all British citizens living in France will become illegal immigrants. Those twats have very short memories don't they . The thousands of North African immigrants seem to be able to live there without any problems That's not true now is it?
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