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Post by mrcoke on Jul 27, 2021 10:20:07 GMT
I have answered your question, its just that you don't like the answer. British people in EU states were never given promises about their status. They were not misled. EU citizens living in the UK were misled. They were given advice in 2016, which was not accurate. That is disrespectful, demeaning behaviour. It would have been more honest to say to EU citizens in 2016: "We do not how this will work out, but we will help all who want to stay" . As for your wider concerns about my welfare, thank you, but your concerns are unfounded. I have plans in my head to live elsewhere, but for now all i can do is learn a new language. Nothing wrong with challenging Brexit. For me and many others, Brexit was sold as an all expenses paid trip to Bali-Hai, whereas what you seem to be getting is a one-way PMT bus ride to Burslem. Politicians break promises….it’s what they do and will continue to do whilst they can still breathe. Not saying it’s right, but they should all be taken with a pinch of salt. I’ve read reports quoting your earlier post about what Boris promised, but not found the actual article or footage and context, I’m sure it’s out there though. However, even accepting it as gospel, how does it demean? To demean you shame, humiliate or degrade yet it appears the lady chose to bring attention to her issue herself. I just think demeaning is not the right context here when all that is being asked for is to submit to a process that granted was perhaps not what was set out. I would suggest it’s more misrepresentation than demeaning, a bit like the signings of Imbula, Wimmer and Vokes to name but a few 😂😂. I didn’t think Brexit would be without its challenges. I certainly didn’t believe it would be as you say you and many others were sold on this all expenses trip. I’ve yet to encounter anyone, aside from you as you say you were sold it, who saw it as this. Again, it’s what politicians do with over egging and over promising whilst under delivering to try and influence or gain support. I guess on the flip side it’s the same as the promises that the UK would explode and there would be biblical disasters…..funnily enough it didn’t happen and there’s little point getting too excited about it. Maybe I’m a little more sceptical and realistic about things rather than believing everything I hear. I wish you well in your plans to go and live elsewhere and hope you find your version of Bali-Hai that you are content with. As someone who was once fluent in two European languages I can advocate the benefits of learning other languages. Good luck. I agree with you. I think there are few people who believe the promises of politicians, and take all the propaganda such as what is posted on the side of a red bus as the whole truth. Having said that I have relatives who were persuaded to vote remain in 2016 because of what they read in the leaflet produced by the government and posted through everyone's letter box. In their heart of hearts they wanted to leave the EU, but were made to feel afraid to vote leave because of the dire warnings of Cameron, Chancellor, Bank of England, CBI, former PMs, etc. The vast majority of those warnings have proven to be false. Exports grew to record levels in 2018 and 2019, employment grew to record levels and unemployment was the lowest for over 40 years pre pandemic. A trade deal was agreed with the EU, regrettably at the expense of Northern Ireland and the fishing industry. Circa 70 other trade deals were rolled over within a year of leaving early 2020, so when we ended the transition period on 31st December trade remained seamless with all those countries. There were some things in the government leaflet that proved true. The pound did fall in value post referendum, but we did not suffer the high inflation we were warned about. Some predictions are self- fulfilling; if you predict the pound will fall, dealers will sell, and the pound will fall. In 2019 inward investment did decline and France took over as the lead country for investment, but that was due to the uncertainty over a UK - EU trade deal and the inability of May to rule the country, and the activities of all those people like the Speaker, former PMs, Lords etc. all trying to undermine Brexit. It is hardly surprising foreign investors paused on their investment plans. Since we left on 31st December with a trade deal there is now a tsunami of investment in the UK putting us back as the top country in Europe to invest in. I fully understand anyone wanting to leave the UK and live in the European country of their choice. I worked a lot in Europe for French and Dutch bosses and understand that. Personally I had a brother and sister who spent most of their lives in Australia and New Zealand and my wife and I have family in both those countries, which personally I believe we have far more empathy with than any European country, but that is purely how I feel personally. I have visited USA a couple of times and Canada and think they are great countries. I have no issue with Europe or Europeans, I just don't want to be ruled by them. I certainly don't want a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels calling all the shots, throwing their weight around against individual countries. I know at the next UK general election we can remove Johnson if the UK electorate choses to. That may of course depend on how many believe the promises they are made.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 4, 2021 9:55:16 GMT
Interestingly, Chinese students at UK universities this year will be higher than EU nationals for the first time ever, the shape of our higher education is changing....
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 4, 2021 10:09:09 GMT
Interestingly, Chinese students at UK universities this year will be higher than EU nationals for the first time ever, the shape of our higher education is changing.... Uh oh - dont let the 'globalists'on here see that ! "Theyre taking over the world" or some such bollocks will be the next line
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 4, 2021 10:11:39 GMT
Politicians break promises….it’s what they do and will continue to do whilst they can still breathe. Not saying it’s right, but they should all be taken with a pinch of salt. I’ve read reports quoting your earlier post about what Boris promised, but not found the actual article or footage and context, I’m sure it’s out there though. However, even accepting it as gospel, how does it demean? To demean you shame, humiliate or degrade yet it appears the lady chose to bring attention to her issue herself. I just think demeaning is not the right context here when all that is being asked for is to submit to a process that granted was perhaps not what was set out. I would suggest it’s more misrepresentation than demeaning, a bit like the signings of Imbula, Wimmer and Vokes to name but a few 😂😂. I didn’t think Brexit would be without its challenges. I certainly didn’t believe it would be as you say you and many others were sold on this all expenses trip. I’ve yet to encounter anyone, aside from you as you say you were sold it, who saw it as this. Again, it’s what politicians do with over egging and over promising whilst under delivering to try and influence or gain support. I guess on the flip side it’s the same as the promises that the UK would explode and there would be biblical disasters…..funnily enough it didn’t happen and there’s little point getting too excited about it. Maybe I’m a little more sceptical and realistic about things rather than believing everything I hear. I wish you well in your plans to go and live elsewhere and hope you find your version of Bali-Hai that you are content with. As someone who was once fluent in two European languages I can advocate the benefits of learning other languages. Good luck. I agree with you. I think there are few people who believe the promises of politicians, and take all the propaganda such as what is posted on the side of a red bus as the whole truth. Having said that I have relatives who were persuaded to vote remain in 2016 because of what they read in the leaflet produced by the government and posted through everyone's letter box. In their heart of hearts they wanted to leave the EU, but were made to feel afraid to vote leave because of the dire warnings of Cameron, Chancellor, Bank of England, CBI, former PMs, etc. The vast majority of those warnings have proven to be false. Exports grew to record levels in 2018 and 2019, employment grew to record levels and unemployment was the lowest for over 40 years pre pandemic. A trade deal was agreed with the EU, regrettably at the expense of Northern Ireland and the fishing industry. Circa 70 other trade deals were rolled over within a year of leaving early 2020, so when we ended the transition period on 31st December trade remained seamless with all those countries. There were some things in the government leaflet that proved true. The pound did fall in value post referendum, but we did not suffer the high inflation we were warned about. Some predictions are self- fulfilling; if you predict the pound will fall, dealers will sell, and the pound will fall. In 2019 inward investment did decline and France took over as the lead country for investment, but that was due to the uncertainty over a UK - EU trade deal and the inability of May to rule the country, and the activities of all those people like the Speaker, former PMs, Lords etc. all trying to undermine Brexit. It is hardly surprising foreign investors paused on their investment plans. Since we left on 31st December with a trade deal there is now a tsunami of investment in the UK putting us back as the top country in Europe to invest in. I fully understand anyone wanting to leave the UK and live in the European country of their choice. I worked a lot in Europe for French and Dutch bosses and understand that. Personally I had a brother and sister who spent most of their lives in Australia and New Zealand and my wife and I have family in both those countries, which personally I believe we have far more empathy with than any European country, but that is purely how I feel personally. I have visited USA a couple of times and Canada and think they are great countries. I have no issue with Europe or Europeans, I just don't want to be ruled by them. I certainly don't want a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels calling all the shots, throwing their weight around against individual countries. I know at the next UK general election we can remove Johnson if the UK electorate choses to. That may of course depend on how many believe the promises they are made. "few people" he says, trying to downplay, once again, the impact of the big red bus bullshit that influenced loads of people to vote the way they did, and which one D Cummings said was instrumental to the success of his very own Leave campaign... You seem less exercised by the unelected House of Lords? Here you go, a Brexit reality check for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_of_Brexit
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 4, 2021 10:16:53 GMT
Interestingly, Chinese students at UK universities this year will be higher than EU nationals for the first time ever, the shape of our higher education is changing.... Uh oh - dont let the 'globalists'on here see that ! "Theyre taking over the world" or some such bollocks will be the next line It's an interesting juxstaposition, one the one hand you've got the government on the offensive criticising China for pretty much everything at the moment, and on the other hand their citizens will be keeping some university institutions afloat........
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 4, 2021 10:19:30 GMT
Uh oh - dont let the 'globalists'on here see that ! "Theyre taking over the world" or some such bollocks will be the next line It's an interesting juxstaposition, one the one hand you've got the government on the offensive criticising China for pretty much everything at the moment, and on the other hand their citizens will be keeping some university institutions afloat........ Absolutely, and add to that, pumping in much needed pennies into the local economies around the campuses
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 4, 2021 10:25:24 GMT
Uh oh - dont let the 'globalists'on here see that ! "Theyre taking over the world" or some such bollocks will be the next line It's an interesting juxstaposition, one the one hand you've got the government on the offensive criticising China for pretty much everything at the moment, and on the other hand their citizens will be keeping some university institutions afloat........ All the strong rhetoric about China is just that, sabre-rattling rhetoric to sound tough while buying loads of cheap Chinese consumer goods and taking their students' cash. Much like being tough on crime while cutting police numbers etc, being tough on immigrants while cutting border forces etc etc...
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 4, 2021 10:59:59 GMT
It's an interesting juxstaposition, one the one hand you've got the government on the offensive criticising China for pretty much everything at the moment, and on the other hand their citizens will be keeping some university institutions afloat........ All the strong rhetoric about China is just that, sabre-rattling rhetoric to sound tough while buying loads of cheap Chinese consumer goods and taking their students' cash. Much like being tough on crime while cutting police numbers etc, being tough on immigrants while cutting border forces etc etc... THat reminds me....... I must look on e-bay to see if theres any gun boats for sale !
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 4, 2021 11:39:49 GMT
I agree with you. I think there are few people who believe the promises of politicians, and take all the propaganda such as what is posted on the side of a red bus as the whole truth. Having said that I have relatives who were persuaded to vote remain in 2016 because of what they read in the leaflet produced by the government and posted through everyone's letter box. In their heart of hearts they wanted to leave the EU, but were made to feel afraid to vote leave because of the dire warnings of Cameron, Chancellor, Bank of England, CBI, former PMs, etc. The vast majority of those warnings have proven to be false. Exports grew to record levels in 2018 and 2019, employment grew to record levels and unemployment was the lowest for over 40 years pre pandemic. A trade deal was agreed with the EU, regrettably at the expense of Northern Ireland and the fishing industry. Circa 70 other trade deals were rolled over within a year of leaving early 2020, so when we ended the transition period on 31st December trade remained seamless with all those countries. There were some things in the government leaflet that proved true. The pound did fall in value post referendum, but we did not suffer the high inflation we were warned about. Some predictions are self- fulfilling; if you predict the pound will fall, dealers will sell, and the pound will fall. In 2019 inward investment did decline and France took over as the lead country for investment, but that was due to the uncertainty over a UK - EU trade deal and the inability of May to rule the country, and the activities of all those people like the Speaker, former PMs, Lords etc. all trying to undermine Brexit. It is hardly surprising foreign investors paused on their investment plans. Since we left on 31st December with a trade deal there is now a tsunami of investment in the UK putting us back as the top country in Europe to invest in. I fully understand anyone wanting to leave the UK and live in the European country of their choice. I worked a lot in Europe for French and Dutch bosses and understand that. Personally I had a brother and sister who spent most of their lives in Australia and New Zealand and my wife and I have family in both those countries, which personally I believe we have far more empathy with than any European country, but that is purely how I feel personally. I have visited USA a couple of times and Canada and think they are great countries. I have no issue with Europe or Europeans, I just don't want to be ruled by them. I certainly don't want a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels calling all the shots, throwing their weight around against individual countries. I know at the next UK general election we can remove Johnson if the UK electorate choses to. That may of course depend on how many believe the promises they are made. "few people" he says, trying to downplay, once again, the impact of the big red bus bullshit that influenced loads of people to vote the way they did, and which one D Cummings said was instrumental to the success of his very own Leave campaign... You seem less exercised by the unelected House of Lords? Here you go, a Brexit reality check for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_of_BrexitI said " I think there are few people whom believe in the promises of politicians ...and propaganda....on the red side of a bus" but if you wish to have a low opinion of the intelligence of the British population that is your view point, not mine. So you have taken to quoting D Cummings to support your argument now? He is an expert at insulting people's intelligence (taking a drive to test his eyes) I am opposed to the HoL in its current format, but in favour of a second chamber. The HoL have persistently obstructed Brexit so I guess you are happy with that. I have consistently said there would be a short term economic cost to leaving the EU and that how long depends on the destructive arguments and the performance of the British people. I spelt out my reasons for leaving the EU at length last year on this MB, page 1,233. Trade was the last reason and it will take time to adjust to our new global position. Truss has made remarkable progress rolling over the EU trade agreements with over 60 countries on the same terms (which remainers said couldn't be done, we are too small a country and have no leverage) and done rapidly so the trade with those countries has progressed seamlessly (pandemic allowing), which remainers said would take years to negotiate. Our exports are already higher than at the time of the referendum in 2016 and we are already less dependant on the EU for imports, so rapid progress is being made. I expect it will take till next year to get to pre pandemic export levels, but of course whatever happens I'm sure you will trot out that it would have been better if we had remained in the EU. Next year 2022 will be a golden year for Britain like these Olympics, with trade deals, record exports, full employment and rising wages, Queen's 70th Jubilee, Stoke promoted, and England winning the world cup.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 4, 2021 15:23:48 GMT
"few people" he says, trying to downplay, once again, the impact of the big red bus bullshit that influenced loads of people to vote the way they did, and which one D Cummings said was instrumental to the success of his very own Leave campaign... You seem less exercised by the unelected House of Lords? Here you go, a Brexit reality check for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_of_BrexitI said " I think there are few people whom believe in the promises of politicians ...and propaganda....on the red side of a bus" but if you wish to have a low opinion of the intelligence of the British population that is your view point, not mine. So you have taken to quoting D Cummings to support your argument now? He is an expert at insulting people's intelligence (taking a drive to test his eyes) I am opposed to the HoL in its current format, but in favour of a second chamber. The HoL have persistently obstructed Brexit so I guess you are happy with that. I have consistently said there would be a short term economic cost to leaving the EU and that how long depends on the destructive arguments and the performance of the British people. I spelt out my reasons for leaving the EU at length last year on this MB, page 1,233. Trade was the last reason and it will take time to adjust to our new global position. Truss has made remarkable progress rolling over the EU trade agreements with over 60 countries on the same terms (which remainers said couldn't be done, we are too small a country and have no leverage) and done rapidly so the trade with those countries has progressed seamlessly (pandemic allowing), which remainers said would take years to negotiate. Our exports are already higher than at the time of the referendum in 2016 and we are already less dependant on the EU for imports, so rapid progress is being made. I expect it will take till next year to get to pre pandemic export levels, but of course whatever happens I'm sure you will trot out that it would have been better if we had remained in the EU. Next year 2022 will be a golden year for Britain like these Olympics, with trade deals, record exports, full employment and rising wages, Queen's 70th Jubilee, Stoke promoted, and England winning the world cup. Not my opinion - that of the director of the vote Leave campaign himself. As I've said numerous times, he's excellent at knowing what populist buttons to push and probably has a pretty accurate opinion of the intelligence and depth of political awareness of the population and therefore what works electorally. We'll see about 2022. Personally, I think it might be the year we start to see the real impacts of Brexit, rather than the Daily Express type relentlessly optimistic and unrealistic jingoism in the face of reality quoted above!
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 4, 2021 17:29:23 GMT
I said " I think there are few people whom believe in the promises of politicians ...and propaganda....on the red side of a bus" but if you wish to have a low opinion of the intelligence of the British population that is your view point, not mine. So you have taken to quoting D Cummings to support your argument now? He is an expert at insulting people's intelligence (taking a drive to test his eyes) I am opposed to the HoL in its current format, but in favour of a second chamber. The HoL have persistently obstructed Brexit so I guess you are happy with that. I have consistently said there would be a short term economic cost to leaving the EU and that how long depends on the destructive arguments and the performance of the British people. I spelt out my reasons for leaving the EU at length last year on this MB, page 1,233. Trade was the last reason and it will take time to adjust to our new global position. Truss has made remarkable progress rolling over the EU trade agreements with over 60 countries on the same terms (which remainers said couldn't be done, we are too small a country and have no leverage) and done rapidly so the trade with those countries has progressed seamlessly (pandemic allowing), which remainers said would take years to negotiate. Our exports are already higher than at the time of the referendum in 2016 and we are already less dependant on the EU for imports, so rapid progress is being made. I expect it will take till next year to get to pre pandemic export levels, but of course whatever happens I'm sure you will trot out that it would have been better if we had remained in the EU. Next year 2022 will be a golden year for Britain like these Olympics, with trade deals, record exports, full employment and rising wages, Queen's 70th Jubilee, Stoke promoted, and England winning the world cup. Not my opinion - that of the director of the vote Leave campaign himself. As I've said numerous times, he's excellent at knowing what populist buttons to push and probably has a pretty accurate opinion of the intelligence and depth of political awareness of the population and therefore what works electorally. We'll see about 2022. Personally, I think it might be the year we start to see the real impacts of Brexit, rather than the Daily Express type relentlessly optimistic and unrealistic jingoism in the face of reality quoted above! So you do not have a low opinion of the intelligence of the British public who chose to vote for Brexit in all regions except London, Scotland, and Northern Ireland which just happens to be those regions that benefitted most from EU membership. I think the British public made an instinctively wise decision to vote leave. Cummings has an egotistical opinion of why the people chose leave which is hardly surprising and you appear to agree with him. You may be right about 2022 if the EU refuses to bury the hatchet and chooses to have a trade war with the UK. Macron clearly tried to scupper the UK vaccine programme, rubbishing AZ, and insist on no trade deal unless the UK compromised on fishing, then banned shellfish, which they said would be temporary. The EU have been plotting and scheming since the referendum to damage the UK economy, with the assistance of people like Blair who had meetings with their negotiators to undermine May and Johnson's government. Spain is trying to stir up trouble over Gibraltar. Germany has a more measured approach to life after Brexit as it has most to lose with its large positive trade balance with UK. Personally I think the EU is only damaging itself as shown by their declining exports to the UK. As UK increases imports from China and North America imports from the EU will continue to decline. As the UK sets up new trade deals and closer relations with India, Indonesia*, Vietnam*, etc. our economy will grow rapidly. All this will take some years of course. So what is wrong with optimism. We have an extremely talented nation and excellent resources. Anyway here's some good news: www.gov.uk/government/news/visa-free-short-term-touring-allowed-in-19-member-states*Edit: Reuters today: www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-granted-dialogue-partner-status-by-asean-nations-2021-08-04/
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 5, 2021 8:32:33 GMT
I didn't comment on the intelligence of the electorate, you did, and made assumptions accordingly.
I said the head of Vote Leave himself (Dominic Cummings) commented directly on the impact that the big red bus bollocks had on the success of the campaign, whereas you have just tried to downplay it again. People are free to draw their own conclusions on the intelligence or otherwise of the electorate who might have been persuaded by the £350m a week NHS reference.
On this occasion I happen to agree with Cummings, I suspect it played well with a large swathe of the voting public, the NHS being close to their hearts and regularly under funding stress. Once the £350m a week was laughed off for the nonsense it was (Farage), it's no great surprise to see all dug in Brexiteers desperately trying to downplay its impact.
Whatever you think of Cummings he knows what populist buttons work well with the public, get Brexit done being the latest at the last election.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 5, 2021 9:17:03 GMT
I didn't comment on the intelligence of the electorate, you did, and made assumptions accordingly. I said the head of Vote Leave himself (Dominic Cummings) commented directly on the impact that the big red bus bollocks had on the success of the campaign, whereas you have just tried to downplay it again. People are free to draw their own conclusions on the intelligence or otherwise of the electorate who might have been persuaded by the £350m a week NHS reference. On this occasion I happen to agree with Cummings, I suspect it played well with a large swathe of the voting public, the NHS being close to their hearts and regularly under funding stress. Once the £350m a week was laughed off for the nonsense it was (Farage), it's no great surprise to see all dug in Brexiteers desperately trying to downplay its impact. Whatever you think of Cummings he knows what populist buttons work well with the public, get Brexit done being the latest at the last election. You have just given a text book example of confirmation bias.
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Post by foster on Aug 5, 2021 9:52:03 GMT
I didn't comment on the intelligence of the electorate, you did, and made assumptions accordingly. I said the head of Vote Leave himself (Dominic Cummings) commented directly on the impact that the big red bus bollocks had on the success of the campaign, whereas you have just tried to downplay it again. People are free to draw their own conclusions on the intelligence or otherwise of the electorate who might have been persuaded by the £350m a week NHS reference. On this occasion I happen to agree with Cummings, I suspect it played well with a large swathe of the voting public, the NHS being close to their hearts and regularly under funding stress. Once the £350m a week was laughed off for the nonsense it was (Farage), it's no great surprise to see all dug in Brexiteers desperately trying to downplay its impact. Whatever you think of Cummings he knows what populist buttons work well with the public, get Brexit done being the latest at the last election. You have just given a text book example of confirmation bias. This thread is full of confirmation bias, and general bias, from both sides.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 5, 2021 10:10:34 GMT
You have just given a text book example of confirmation bias. This thread is full of confirmation bias, and general bias, from both sides. Could say that about pretty much any thread on any messageboard. That's social media.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 5, 2021 10:15:31 GMT
This thread is full of confirmation bias, and general bias, from both sides. Could say that about pretty much any thread on any messageboard. That's social media. Exactly Why some folk get so wound up on these sites has always been beyond me! They're just places to discuss stuff aren't they?
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 5, 2021 10:30:48 GMT
You have just given a text book example of confirmation bias. This thread is full of confirmation bias, and general bias, from both sides. Not too much in the way of optimisation bias though. Leastways from certain quarters.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 5, 2021 10:40:54 GMT
This thread is full of confirmation bias, and general bias, from both sides. Not too much in the way of optimisation bias though. Leastways from certain quarters. You have just given a text book example of confirmation bias
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 5, 2021 14:27:26 GMT
Not too much in the way of optimisation bias though. Leastways from certain quarters. You have just given a text book example of confirmation bias PMSL
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Post by devondumpling on Aug 6, 2021 11:07:26 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit ruleA Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks. The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years. What's your source for this?
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Post by 4372 on Aug 6, 2021 11:49:10 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit ruleA Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks. The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years. What's your source for this? The Guardian and the Express,both 19/07/2021
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 6, 2021 15:16:42 GMT
What's your source for this? The Guardian and the Express,both 19/07/2021 Any news of what happened to the woman?
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Post by 4372 on Aug 6, 2021 15:34:57 GMT
The Guardian and the Express,both 19/07/2021 Any news of what happened to the woman? Nothing yet. I think one way or another,the story will be followed up as and when there is a conclusion.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 6, 2021 15:43:00 GMT
Any news of what happened to the woman? Nothing yet. I think one way or another,the story will be followed up as and when there is a conclusion. I wouldn't be so sure. My cynical self thinks that if this has been quietly and efficiently resolved we won't hear a word. The silence since that story broke makes me suspect that is what has happened.
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Post by 4372 on Aug 6, 2021 15:45:13 GMT
Nothing yet. I think one way or another,the story will be followed up as and when there is a conclusion. I wouldn't be so sure. My cynical self thinks that if this has been quietly and efficiently resolved we won't hear a word. The silence since that story broke makes me suspect that is what has happened. On the other hand,there will be Brexit journalists who will be happy to report the incident as settled to the satisfaction of all concerned.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 9, 2021 15:23:33 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 9, 2021 15:42:23 GMT
If you are moaning about this you dont want to see how much covid tests will cost you to go on holiday anyway. As I have said previously on this too who spends their holiday on the phone, the free hotel wifi for 30 mins a day will allow you to do all you need too.
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Post by foster on Aug 9, 2021 20:00:19 GMT
If you are moaning about this you dont want to see how much covid tests will cost you to go on holiday anyway. As I have said previously on this too who spends their holiday on the phone, the free hotel wifi for 30 mins a day will allow you to do all you need too.Clearly someone has never tried to stream porn on their phone on hotel wifi.
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Post by Kilo on Aug 9, 2021 20:22:55 GMT
If you are moaning about this you dont want to see how much covid tests will cost you to go on holiday anyway. As I have said previously on this too who spends their holiday on the phone, the free hotel wifi for 30 mins a day will allow you to do all you need too.Clearly someone has never tried to stream porn on their phone on hotel wifi. Well that'll teach you for trying to do it in the reception.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 13, 2021 13:22:49 GMT
Nothing yet. I think one way or another,the story will be followed up as and when there is a conclusion. I wouldn't be so sure. My cynical self thinks that if this has been quietly and efficiently resolved we won't hear a word. The silence since that story broke makes me suspect that is what has happened. There isn't silence, the government are giving regular updates on progress with processing EU and Swiss nationals. There were supposed to be circa 3 to 3.5 million EU national in the UK at the time of the referendum. So far the government has processed over 5 million, received over 6 million, and even received 10s of thousands after the closure date at the end of June. Details in link below. Despite being at full stretch the government is still urging people to apply who have still failed to do so, and posting notifications to employers on what to do. I've not heard yet of an employer being prosecuted for illegally employing anyone, which could cost an employer c. £20,000. The government has made £22 million available to organizations to assist deprived persons to secure their rights to settlement. Yesterday's post: www.gov.uk/government/news/thousands-more-citizens-granted-status-through-settlement-scheme
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