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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 29, 2021 10:33:39 GMT
Firstly, we are still paying the EU! Whenever EU money is given to countries through various development programmes there are a lot of checks on how it's spent. I don't think you're allowed to spend ERDF cash on fighter planes! So while it's a nice easy lump of mud to chuck Croatia's way, you may as well say exactly the same for any country that has received EU funding over the years, including ourselves. I doubt whether there is an EU funding arm specifically for rearmament but you never know!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 29, 2021 10:39:55 GMT
Ah, Brexit land, where rising costs and prices are a good thing!
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Post by mrcoke on May 29, 2021 13:47:48 GMT
Firstly, we are still paying the EU! Whenever EU money is given to countries through various development programmes there are a lot of checks on how it's spent. I don't think you're allowed to spend ERDF cash on fighter planes! So while it's a nice easy lump of mud to chuck Croatia's way, you may as well say exactly the same for any country that has received EU funding over the years, including ourselves. I doubt whether there is an EU funding arm specifically for rearmament but you never know! Yes you're correct we are still paying under the agreement to leave, and will continue to pay for those commitments which were made when we were members like pensions, capital investments, etc. It was part of the trade agreement on leaving that there would be a divorce bill. But I hope we are not paying for the new and future EU budgets like the pandemic recovery fund, or regional aid for Croatia, etc. or for ventures like this one: www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-military-mission-mozambique-may-be-operating-months-bloc-says-2021-05-28/Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments but I would thought it was obvious that if Croatia is receiving aid from Brussels, it releases money to spend on armaments. How much money has the EU given the UK? Since 1973, £500 million, £1 trillion at todays value. All for the privilege of being in a customs union with a £60 billion pa trade deficit and subject to laws and judicial decisions made by the EU. Fortunately we are now in a position to close that trade gap with the EU, grow our economy much faster with the rest of the world, and be far better placed to pay the EU what we "owe" it, unlike Greece, Italy, and others.
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Post by tuum on May 29, 2021 14:19:49 GMT
Firstly, we are still paying the EU! Whenever EU money is given to countries through various development programmes there are a lot of checks on how it's spent. I don't think you're allowed to spend ERDF cash on fighter planes! So while it's a nice easy lump of mud to chuck Croatia's way, you may as well say exactly the same for any country that has received EU funding over the years, including ourselves. I doubt whether there is an EU funding arm specifically for rearmament but you never know! Yes you're correct we are still paying under the agreement to leave, and will continue to pay for those commitments which were made when we were members like pensions, capital investments, etc. It was part of the trade agreement on leaving that there would be a divorce bill. But I hope we are not paying for the new and future EU budgets like the pandemic recovery fund, or regional aid for Croatia, etc. or for ventures like this one: www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-military-mission-mozambique-may-be-operating-months-bloc-says-2021-05-28/Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments but I would thought it was obvious that if Croatia is receiving aid from Brussels, it releases money to spend on armaments. How much money has the EU given the UK? Since 1973, £500 million, £1 trillion at todays value. All for the privilege of being in a customs union with a £60 billion pa trade deficit and subject to laws and judicial decisions made by the EU. Fortunately we are now in a position to close that trade gap with the EU, grow our economy much faster with the rest of the world, and be far better placed to pay the EU what we "owe" it, unlike Greece, Italy, and others. The EU's security support to Mozambique has nothing to do with the fact that Total has committed millions to their massive oil project over there does it? If this project does not go ahead Total could miss out on billions of $ of oil revenue. Just a thought.
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Post by mrcoke on May 29, 2021 18:45:08 GMT
Yes you're correct we are still paying under the agreement to leave, and will continue to pay for those commitments which were made when we were members like pensions, capital investments, etc. It was part of the trade agreement on leaving that there would be a divorce bill. But I hope we are not paying for the new and future EU budgets like the pandemic recovery fund, or regional aid for Croatia, etc. or for ventures like this one: www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-military-mission-mozambique-may-be-operating-months-bloc-says-2021-05-28/Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments but I would thought it was obvious that if Croatia is receiving aid from Brussels, it releases money to spend on armaments. How much money has the EU given the UK? Since 1973, £500 million, £1 trillion at todays value. All for the privilege of being in a customs union with a £60 billion pa trade deficit and subject to laws and judicial decisions made by the EU. Fortunately we are now in a position to close that trade gap with the EU, grow our economy much faster with the rest of the world, and be far better placed to pay the EU what we "owe" it, unlike Greece, Italy, and others. The EU's security support to Mozambique has nothing to do with the fact that Total has committed millions to their massive oil project over there does it? If this project does not go ahead Total could miss out on billions of $ of oil revenue. Just a thought. Exactly. The EU Commission is the puppet of European and Multinational Corporations who spend countless millions and thousands of people in Brussels lobbying for their interests. The oil industry is one of many. There are huge lobbying interests for the car industry, coal and steel community, chemical companies, energy companies, the list is endless. I won't post the link again on Corporate Capture of the EU again, which I've posted repeatedly; here's one for the oil industry, relevant to Total. www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/24/fossil-fuel-big-five-spent-251m-lobbying-european-union-2010-climate-crisisBefore leaving the chair of the EU Council last December, Merkel rushed through the investment agreement with China at the behest of Germany's industry. The whole EU organization is rotten to the core., with a President of the Commission having left a wake of mismanagement during her career, the latest being vaccine procurement. Cameron tried to prevent her appointment but was overruled by Germany and others. We have lobbying in this country of course, as demonstrated by Cameron himself lately, but at least we can get rid of our politicians, you cannot remove the bureaucrats in Brussels no matter how incompetent or corrupt they are.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 15:07:10 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on May 30, 2021 15:19:05 GMT
What has this got to do with Brexit?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 15:22:18 GMT
Firstly, we are still paying the EU! Whenever EU money is given to countries through various development programmes there are a lot of checks on how it's spent. I don't think you're allowed to spend ERDF cash on fighter planes! So while it's a nice easy lump of mud to chuck Croatia's way, you may as well say exactly the same for any country that has received EU funding over the years, including ourselves. I doubt whether there is an EU funding arm specifically for rearmament but you never know! Yes you're correct we are still paying under the agreement to leave, and will continue to pay for those commitments which were made when we were members like pensions, capital investments, etc. It was part of the trade agreement on leaving that there would be a divorce bill. But I hope we are not paying for the new and future EU budgets like the pandemic recovery fund, or regional aid for Croatia, etc. or for ventures like this one: www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-military-mission-mozambique-may-be-operating-months-bloc-says-2021-05-28/Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments but I would thought it was obvious that if Croatia is receiving aid from Brussels, it releases money to spend on armaments. How much money has the EU given the UK? Since 1973, £500 million, £1 trillion at todays value. All for the privilege of being in a customs union with a £60 billion pa trade deficit and subject to laws and judicial decisions made by the EU. Fortunately we are now in a position to close that trade gap with the EU, grow our economy much faster with the rest of the world, and be far better placed to pay the EU what we "owe" it, unlike Greece, Italy, and others. It's obvious to you that EU money given to Croatia through various development programmes (ERDF, ESF, etc) is, of course, spent on armaments, because that suits your thinking. However, I'd be willing to bet that if you looked into it, the money that Croatia gets awarded to it is specifically for various non-military purposes and that there are plenty of checks to show where that money has gone and to what outcome. You seem to have plenty of time on your hands, I'd be happy to see your research that shows that the EU funds rearmament anywhere, let alone Croatia. Of course, anyone just going down the usual route of "foreigners corrupt" is unlikely to be disabused of the conviction that EU money ends up being used to buy those fighters, through shadowy re-channelling of funds, no doubt. Something which, of course, the UK would never have dreamt of doing with its EU money! Come on, Coke, you're normally one of the more sensible Brexiteers on here. It wouldn't kill you to admit that EU funds are not awarded for the purposes of rearmament and that your insinuation previously to that effect was disingenuous at best!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 15:23:25 GMT
What has this got to do with Brexit? Supply chain issues, rising costs, all predicted as part of Project Fear.
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Post by partickpotter on May 30, 2021 15:33:36 GMT
What has this got to do with Brexit? Supply chain issues, rising costs, all predicted as part of Project Fear. Did you read the article? You might have seen reasons given that explain what is going on, none of which are related to Brexit. So, could you try again and explain what this has got to do with Brexit? Or maybe this is another case of that phenomenon you mentioned separately of someone “reacting to what they want to hear without bothering to see if any of it is anything other than complete bluff”.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 15:47:33 GMT
Supply chain issues, rising costs, all predicted as part of Project Fear. Did you read the article? You might have seen reasons given that explain what is going on, none of which are related to Brexit. So, could you try again and explain what this has got to do with Brexit? Or maybe this is another case of that phenomenon you mentioned separately of someone “reacting to what they want to hear without bothering to see if any of it is anything other than complete bluff”. Here you go. Why rely on a biased news site like the BBC when you can get it straight from the industry itself... www.google.com/amp/s/www.homebuilding.co.uk/amp/news/construction-materials-shortageThe Beeb did a good job of avoiding mentioning Brexit to be fair, those new Tory board members must be having an impact!
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Post by partickpotter on May 30, 2021 16:35:20 GMT
Did you read the article? You might have seen reasons given that explain what is going on, none of which are related to Brexit. So, could you try again and explain what this has got to do with Brexit? Or maybe this is another case of that phenomenon you mentioned separately of someone “reacting to what they want to hear without bothering to see if any of it is anything other than complete bluff”. Here you go. Why rely on a biased news site like the BBC when you can get it straight from the industry itself... www.google.com/amp/s/www.homebuilding.co.uk/amp/news/construction-materials-shortageThe Beeb did a good job of avoiding mentioning Brexit to be fair, those new Tory board members must be having an impact! The BBC article, to be fair, is the one you posted.
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Post by thevoid on May 30, 2021 17:40:21 GMT
A slightly higher food bill is a small price to pay for upsetting certain wet wipes on here 👍
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Post by mrcoke on May 30, 2021 18:36:05 GMT
Yes you're correct we are still paying under the agreement to leave, and will continue to pay for those commitments which were made when we were members like pensions, capital investments, etc. It was part of the trade agreement on leaving that there would be a divorce bill. But I hope we are not paying for the new and future EU budgets like the pandemic recovery fund, or regional aid for Croatia, etc. or for ventures like this one: www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-military-mission-mozambique-may-be-operating-months-bloc-says-2021-05-28/Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments but I would thought it was obvious that if Croatia is receiving aid from Brussels, it releases money to spend on armaments. How much money has the EU given the UK? Since 1973, £500 million, £1 trillion at todays value. All for the privilege of being in a customs union with a £60 billion pa trade deficit and subject to laws and judicial decisions made by the EU. Fortunately we are now in a position to close that trade gap with the EU, grow our economy much faster with the rest of the world, and be far better placed to pay the EU what we "owe" it, unlike Greece, Italy, and others. It's obvious to you that EU money given to Croatia through various development programmes (ERDF, ESF, etc) is, of course, spent on armaments, because that suits your thinking. However, I'd be willing to bet that if you looked into it, the money that Croatia gets awarded to it is specifically for various non-military purposes and that there are plenty of checks to show where that money has gone and to what outcome. You seem to have plenty of time on your hands, I'd be happy to see your research that shows that the EU funds rearmament anywhere, let alone Croatia. Of course, anyone just going down the usual route of "foreigners corrupt" is unlikely to be disabused of the conviction that EU money ends up being used to buy those fighters, through shadowy re-channelling of funds, no doubt. Something which, of course, the UK would never have dreamt of doing with its EU money! Come on, Coke, you're normally one of the more sensible Brexiteers on here. It wouldn't kill you to admit that EU funds are not awarded for the purposes of rearmament and that your insinuation previously to that effect was disingenuous at best! You failed to read my post. I said in paragraph 3: " Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments..."
The fact that Croatia does receive grants for other things from the EU, releases money from their budget that they can now use to buy fighter jets, that they would not otherwise be able to afford. Where did I say there was any corruption in that post? Of course France is a net financial contributer to the EU, money which goes to things like regional development grants. France enjoys a large positive trade balance with the rest of the EU, selling things like fighter jets, which isn't corrupt, just coincidence. As I pointed out the UK never got a penny out of the EU during over four decades membership. The UK was a net contributer the whole time and only received back what the EU deemed to grant. We would have had to pay a lot more if it hadn't been for Thatcher negotiating the rebate.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 19:40:59 GMT
It's obvious to you that EU money given to Croatia through various development programmes (ERDF, ESF, etc) is, of course, spent on armaments, because that suits your thinking. However, I'd be willing to bet that if you looked into it, the money that Croatia gets awarded to it is specifically for various non-military purposes and that there are plenty of checks to show where that money has gone and to what outcome. You seem to have plenty of time on your hands, I'd be happy to see your research that shows that the EU funds rearmament anywhere, let alone Croatia. Of course, anyone just going down the usual route of "foreigners corrupt" is unlikely to be disabused of the conviction that EU money ends up being used to buy those fighters, through shadowy re-channelling of funds, no doubt. Something which, of course, the UK would never have dreamt of doing with its EU money! Come on, Coke, you're normally one of the more sensible Brexiteers on here. It wouldn't kill you to admit that EU funds are not awarded for the purposes of rearmament and that your insinuation previously to that effect was disingenuous at best! You failed to read my post. I said in paragraph 3: " Of course the EU does not fund a member country's armaments..."
The fact that Croatia does receive grants for other things from the EU, releases money from their budget that they can now use to buy fighter jets, that they would not otherwise be able to afford. Where did I say there was any corruption in that post? Of course France is a net financial contributer to the EU, money which goes to things like regional development grants. France enjoys a large positive trade balance with the rest of the EU, selling things like fighter jets, which isn't corrupt, just coincidence. As I pointed out the UK never got a penny out of the EU during over four decades membership. The UK was a net contributer the whole time and only received back what the EU deemed to grant. We would have had to pay a lot more if it hadn't been for Thatcher negotiating the rebate. It's up to individual govts on where they spend their budgets. To insinuate that EU money for specifically non-military purposes therefore increases the militarisation of these countries is very much disingenuous. You may as well say the same for every country that receives EU funding. "Here's some money to spend on Cornwall through the regional development fund, that should let you buy some missiles too!"
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 19:44:34 GMT
The BBC article, to be fair, is the one you posted. That's correct, but since you were struggling with the fairly obvious link, I thought I'd help you out!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2021 19:45:48 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on May 30, 2021 20:04:12 GMT
The BBC article, to be fair, is the one you posted. That's correct, but since you were struggling with the fairly obvious link, I thought I'd help you out! Thank you so much for your kind consideration. And there was me thinking you were just whinging and whining as usual. Please forgive me.
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Post by mrcoke on May 30, 2021 22:21:57 GMT
Did you read the article? You might have seen reasons given that explain what is going on, none of which are related to Brexit. So, could you try again and explain what this has got to do with Brexit? Or maybe this is another case of that phenomenon you mentioned separately of someone “reacting to what they want to hear without bothering to see if any of it is anything other than complete bluff”. Here you go. Why rely on a biased news site like the BBC when you can get it straight from the industry itself... www.google.com/amp/s/www.homebuilding.co.uk/amp/news/construction-materials-shortageThe Beeb did a good job of avoiding mentioning Brexit to be fair, those new Tory board members must be having an impact! The building industry was struck with major shortages caused by the immediate impact of the pandemic last year, followed by a surge in demand for materials by people self isolating and using the opportunity to get on with all those home improvements they have been intending to do for years. A builder I know told me last summer he could not get materials like plaster and the price was rocketing, - all induced by the pandemic. A roofer I know said it was almost impossible to get Velux windows so many people were doing loft conversions, and he had to wait weeks to get roofing felt. Naturally there will be disturbances in the supply chain with the UK leaving the EU, that is why many companies were stocking towards the end of last year causing queuing at the ports. But the basic reason for building material shortages is the worldwide pandemic and the boom in demand which is world wide: In America: luisibuildingmaterials.com/2021/02/the-shortage-of-construction-material-will-continue-in-2021/Homeowners and commercial builders in Brooklyn, NY faced a new challenge in 2020: construction material shortage. Wildfires reduced the lumber supply, the pandemic further slowed production, and an increase in demand due to a rise in home remodelling projects all combined to create this construction material shortage. In Germany: www.ifo.de/en/node/63317Germany’s construction industry is facing serious material bottlenecks, according to surveys by the ifo Institute. “We haven’t seen a bottleneck like this since 1991. This evidently caused construction activity to slow down in April, at least temporarily,” says Felix Leiss, a survey expert at the ifo Institute. www.euwid-wood-products.com/news/miscellaneous/single/Artikel/construction-industry-shortages-in-material-supply.html#:~:text=Construction%20activity%20in%20Germany%20is,steel%20or%20crude%20oil%20products.&text=Increased%20demand%20in%20the%20USA,for%20the%20very%20low%20supply 23.04.2021 − Construction activity in Germany is currently experiencing restrictions due to shortages in supply of globally traded materials such as wood, steel or crude oil products. According to the spring survey currently conducted by the German Construction Confederation (ZDB) only 16% of the member companies report unproblematic wood product availability. Increased demand in the USA and China is stated as the main reason for the very low supply. In Australia: www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-22/building-material-shortage-causes-delays/100157774Australian construction materials shortage causing delays for Tasmanian home builders Maybe you think this world wide shortage is all down to Brexit?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 31, 2021 8:14:41 GMT
The building industry was struck with major shortages caused by the immediate impact of the pandemic last year, followed by a surge in demand for materials by people self isolating and using the opportunity to get on with all those home improvements they have been intending to do for years. A builder I know told me last summer he could not get materials like plaster and the price was rocketing, - all induced by the pandemic. A roofer I know said it was almost impossible to get Velux windows so many people were doing loft conversions, and he had to wait weeks to get roofing felt. Naturally there will be disturbances in the supply chain with the UK leaving the EU, that is why many companies were stocking towards the end of last year causing queuing at the ports. But the basic reason for building material shortages is the worldwide pandemic and the boom in demand which is world wide: In America: luisibuildingmaterials.com/2021/02/the-shortage-of-construction-material-will-continue-in-2021/Homeowners and commercial builders in Brooklyn, NY faced a new challenge in 2020: construction material shortage. Wildfires reduced the lumber supply, the pandemic further slowed production, and an increase in demand due to a rise in home remodelling projects all combined to create this construction material shortage. In Germany: www.ifo.de/en/node/63317Germany’s construction industry is facing serious material bottlenecks, according to surveys by the ifo Institute. “We haven’t seen a bottleneck like this since 1991. This evidently caused construction activity to slow down in April, at least temporarily,” says Felix Leiss, a survey expert at the ifo Institute. www.euwid-wood-products.com/news/miscellaneous/single/Artikel/construction-industry-shortages-in-material-supply.html#:~:text=Construction%20activity%20in%20Germany%20is,steel%20or%20crude%20oil%20products.&text=Increased%20demand%20in%20the%20USA,for%20the%20very%20low%20supply 23.04.2021 − Construction activity in Germany is currently experiencing restrictions due to shortages in supply of globally traded materials such as wood, steel or crude oil products. According to the spring survey currently conducted by the German Construction Confederation (ZDB) only 16% of the member companies report unproblematic wood product availability. Increased demand in the USA and China is stated as the main reason for the very low supply. In Australia: www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-22/building-material-shortage-causes-delays/100157774Australian construction materials shortage causing delays for Tasmanian home builders Maybe you think this world wide shortage is all down to Brexit? Did you read my post? Did I say the problems were all down to Brexit? That article I referenced mentioned the causes you've stated, in addition to the impact of Brexit. Seems fair enough to point out that these issues, which were dismissed as Project Fear, have now come to pass - rising costs, import problems, shortages, supply chain issues, and that Brexit has contributed to all of them.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 31, 2021 8:19:26 GMT
That's correct, but since you were struggling with the fairly obvious link, I thought I'd help you out! Thank you so much for your kind consideration. And there was me thinking you were just whinging and whining as usual. Please forgive me. Like the fishermen, NFU, financiers and now the people of Kent, awful lot of whingers out there aren't there? When are the sunlit uplands arriving for these folk? But no worries, ever since your struggle with the difference between a death toll and a death rate, I've tried to simplify things, with you in mind. On this occasion the BBC article was clearly too much of a stretch for you to make the obvious connections. I apologise.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 31, 2021 8:19:37 GMT
The building industry was struck with major shortages caused by the immediate impact of the pandemic last year, followed by a surge in demand for materials by people self isolating and using the opportunity to get on with all those home improvements they have been intending to do for years. A builder I know told me last summer he could not get materials like plaster and the price was rocketing, - all induced by the pandemic. A roofer I know said it was almost impossible to get Velux windows so many people were doing loft conversions, and he had to wait weeks to get roofing felt. Naturally there will be disturbances in the supply chain with the UK leaving the EU, that is why many companies were stocking towards the end of last year causing queuing at the ports. But the basic reason for building material shortages is the worldwide pandemic and the boom in demand which is world wide: In America: luisibuildingmaterials.com/2021/02/the-shortage-of-construction-material-will-continue-in-2021/Homeowners and commercial builders in Brooklyn, NY faced a new challenge in 2020: construction material shortage. Wildfires reduced the lumber supply, the pandemic further slowed production, and an increase in demand due to a rise in home remodelling projects all combined to create this construction material shortage. In Germany: www.ifo.de/en/node/63317Germany’s construction industry is facing serious material bottlenecks, according to surveys by the ifo Institute. “We haven’t seen a bottleneck like this since 1991. This evidently caused construction activity to slow down in April, at least temporarily,” says Felix Leiss, a survey expert at the ifo Institute. www.euwid-wood-products.com/news/miscellaneous/single/Artikel/construction-industry-shortages-in-material-supply.html#:~:text=Construction%20activity%20in%20Germany%20is,steel%20or%20crude%20oil%20products.&text=Increased%20demand%20in%20the%20USA,for%20the%20very%20low%20supply 23.04.2021 − Construction activity in Germany is currently experiencing restrictions due to shortages in supply of globally traded materials such as wood, steel or crude oil products. According to the spring survey currently conducted by the German Construction Confederation (ZDB) only 16% of the member companies report unproblematic wood product availability. Increased demand in the USA and China is stated as the main reason for the very low supply. In Australia: www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-22/building-material-shortage-causes-delays/100157774Australian construction materials shortage causing delays for Tasmanian home builders Maybe you think this world wide shortage is all down to Brexit? Did you read my post? Did I say the problems were all down to Brexit? That article I referenced mentioned the causes you've stated, in addition to the impact of Brexit. Seems fair enough to point out that these issues, which were dismissed as Project Fear, have now come to pass - rising costs, import problems, shortages and Brexit has contributed to all of them. Desperate
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 31, 2021 8:41:39 GMT
Did you read my post? Did I say the problems were all down to Brexit? That article I referenced mentioned the causes you've stated, in addition to the impact of Brexit. Seems fair enough to point out that these issues, which were dismissed as Project Fear, have now come to pass - rising costs, import problems, shortages and Brexit has contributed to all of them. Desperate Drink less coffee?...Tena Men products...? I don't really how to help you there, John
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 31, 2021 8:55:51 GMT
Drink less coffee?...Tena Men products...? I don't really how to help you there, John Reading your " arguments " always makes me feel better..mind you I only skim the occasional one, they all say the same thing don't they...... "I can't come to terms with Brexit, people thinking differently from me. I hope the UK fails, so that I can " win " the argument. I love those faceless EU bureaucrats, they are much better than us" . Thank you. ( Also it is always nice to know that the desperate are kept occupied and entertained)
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Post by partickpotter on May 31, 2021 8:59:35 GMT
Thank you so much for your kind consideration. And there was me thinking you were just whinging and whining as usual. Please forgive me. Like the fishermen, NFU, financiers and now the people of Kent, awful lot of whingers out there aren't there? When are the sunlit uplands arriving for these folk? But no worries, ever since your struggle with the difference between a death toll and a death rate, I've tried to simplify things, with you in mind. On this occasion the BBC article was clearly too much of a stretch for you to make the obvious connections. I apologise.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 1, 2021 6:34:35 GMT
R4 this morning.
An interview with a woman from Dominos about their expansion plans and recruitment. Seems they had a good Covid and have plans to open lots more stores and are looking to employ thousands more people.
Anyway... final question... hasn’t Brexit caused you problems. Answer... No.
Two things to note here. One that the question was asked at all... at what point will folk “let it go” to coin a phrase.Two, the leading nature of that question inviting a complaint.
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Post by Kilo on Jun 1, 2021 7:09:02 GMT
Heinz to invest £140M in Wigan and start making tomato ketchup in Britain for the first time since 1999 - Despite Brexit shocker.
Along with the new Royal Yacht which will create shipbuilding jobs, this will create 50 brand new jobs but the loopy left will still be harping on about nurses pay (who start on £25K) as once they've found a bell to clang, they just can't be happy until the clapper's dropped off.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 1, 2021 9:17:08 GMT
Heinz to invest £140M in Wigan and start making tomato ketchup in Britain for the first time since 1999 - Despite Brexit shocker.
Along with the new Royal Yacht which will create shipbuilding jobs, this will create 50 brand new jobs but the loopy left will still be harping on about nurses pay (who start on £25K) as once they've found a bell to clang, they just can't be happy until the clapper's dropped off.
This is great news and not the first of its type. Cadbury have also decided to move some of their chocolate production from the EU to their Bournville site. During the UK membership there has been a huge amount of industry moved to China, but also to mainland Europe. There has also been a shift in businesses in the UK with Northern factories closing and new factories opening in the South East and M4 corridor to be closer to Europe. There are a number of factor at play, one is logistics. Logistically companies are advantaged by being at the centre of the market. That is why businesses congregate in western Germany, Northern France and the low countries, being at the centre of European commerce and population. The adverse consequence of this is the social damage done to the peripheral regions of Europe which suffer high unemployment and the young have to leave their homelands to find work. But it is good news for logistics companies like Panattoni. panattoni.co.uk/media-hub/nnewsOver the coming decades we could see a steady drift of industry back to the UK, particularly if we grow our exports to the RoW faster now we are free from EU constraints.
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Post by maxplonk on Jun 1, 2021 9:21:42 GMT
Heinz to invest £140M in Wigan and start making tomato ketchup in Britain for the first time since 1999 - Despite Brexit shocker. Along with the new Royal Yacht which will create shipbuilding jobs, this will create 50 brand new jobs but the loopy left will still be harping on about nurses pay (who start on £25K) as once they've found a bell to clang, they just can't be happy until the clapper's dropped off.
25k is the starting salary for a Band 5 (i.e. fully qualified) registered nurse.
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Post by 4372 on Jun 1, 2021 9:32:15 GMT
I have just seen that a nurse's salary starts at £18,005.
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