liquidlen
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 7:19:05 GMT
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Post by yes on May 3, 2017 15:07:36 GMT
My hearing care has been outsourced to Specsavers.
I have a profound hearing loss and after my hearing aid stopped working had to wait 6 weeks for an appointment which was today.
I went in to be told that yep, it is broken and I need to book an hour appointment for new aids.
Another 6 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 15:18:01 GMT
Mark my words - that's utter bollocks.
The Tories try and make the NHS more affordable. Labour, in their own special vote grabbing way, can't fucking wait to increase NHS salaries, create more NHS jobs and make the service more expensive to run. This is why the Labour fuckwitts increased the deficit during the long pre-2008 boom.
Ask yourself if standard procedures in the NHS actually decrease in price thanks to an attempt to introduce efficiency savings by the Tories or increase because Labour fuckpigs are paying people more for doing the same job.
And, for the 30000th time, there is no such thing as free fucking health care.
The more the public sector NHS takes the piss the more I want the big fat soviet fucking behemoth privatised so that the service finally becomes efficient and affordable.
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liquidlen
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 16:01:51 GMT
Mark my words - that's utter bollocks. The Tories try and make the NHS more affordable. Labour, in their own special vote grabbing way, can't fucking wait to increase NHS salaries, create more NHS jobs and make the service more expensive to run. This is why the Labour fuckwitts increased the deficit during the long pre-2008 boom. Ask yourself if standard procedures in the NHS actually decrease in price thanks to an attempt to introduce efficiency savings by the Tories or increase because Labour fuckpigs are paying people more for doing the same job. And, for the 30000th time, there is no such thing as free fucking health care. The more the public sector NHS takes the piss the more I want the big fat soviet fucking behemoth privatised so that the service finally becomes efficient and affordable.
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Post by essexstokey on May 8, 2017 13:56:17 GMT
NHS staff 'quitting to work in supermarkets because of poor pay' link
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 14:17:24 GMT
NHS staff 'quitting to work in supermarkets because of poor pay' linkTo be honest from my experience a fair few of them are only good for that work. I'll add some of their Drs to that too Fucking shocking some of them
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Post by followyoudown on May 8, 2017 14:35:44 GMT
NHS staff 'quitting to work in supermarkets because of poor pay' linkTo be honest from my experience a fair few of them are only good for that work. I'll add some of their Drs to that too Fucking shocking some of them I spent about 40 hours in hospital after I broke and dislocated my ankle recently, doctors and consultants were superb as were the nurses the first night, the next two days the nurses were fucking shocking, I didn't need anything which was a good job watching another couple of patients struggle to get them to do anything.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 8, 2017 14:40:45 GMT
To be honest from my experience a fair few of them are only good for that work. I'll add some of their Drs to that too Fucking shocking some of them I spent about 40 hours in hospital after I broke and dislocated my ankle recently, doctors and consultants were superb as were the nurses the first night, the next two days the nurses were fucking shocking, I didn't need anything which was a good job watching another couple of patients struggle to get them to do anything. I hope Paul Farrelly uses this an election leaflet as an example of what the Welsh Tory candidate's biggest supporter thinks of the N.H.S. and its fantastic staff!
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Post by followyoudown on May 8, 2017 14:48:10 GMT
I spent about 40 hours in hospital after I broke and dislocated my ankle recently, doctors and consultants were superb as were the nurses the first night, the next two days the nurses were fucking shocking, I didn't need anything which was a good job watching another couple of patients struggle to get them to do anything. I hope Paul Farrelly uses this an election leaflet as an example of what the Welsh Tory candidate's biggest supporter thinks of the N.H.S. and its fantastic staff! Speak as I find, having watched an old confused upset guy with a broken hip obviously in distress consistently ignored for 2 days i' d say at least a couple of the nurses were in the wrong profession.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 8, 2017 15:35:02 GMT
I hope Paul Farrelly uses this an election leaflet as an example of what the Welsh Tory candidate's biggest supporter thinks of the N.H.S. and its fantastic staff! Speak as I find, having watched an old confused upset guy with a broken hip obviously in distress consistently ignored for 2 days i' d say at least a couple of the nurses were in the wrong profession. Or heavily overworked. People are slipping through the cracks because there simply aren't enough nurses to patients.
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Post by followyoudown on May 8, 2017 15:38:33 GMT
Speak as I find, having watched an old confused upset guy with a broken hip obviously in distress consistently ignored for 2 days i' d say at least a couple of the nurses were in the wrong profession. Or heavily overworked. People are slipping through the cracks because there simply aren't enough nurses to patients. I'm not going to put all the details up but I was in a small ward (6 people) opposite the nurses station and it was not overwork trust me.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 8, 2017 15:42:47 GMT
Or heavily overworked. People are slipping through the cracks because there simply aren't enough nurses to patients. I'm not going to put all the details up but I was in a small ward (6 people) opposite the nurses station and it was not overwork trust me. Very well, but in the larger scale (study scale stuff) it's not that nurses don't want to help, it's that priority cases take up the time, and there are not enough supplementary nurses to help out. All I'm going to say on the matter is that NHS satisfaction rates peaked in 2009, and have been declining since 2010.
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Post by essexstokey on May 8, 2017 16:05:07 GMT
One of the main problems is that the sisters /matrons don't have the power that they used to managers seem to rule because there is a shortage of staff some think they can get away with poor standards but this is a very small majority. I spent a week in hospital a few years back and there was only one nurse that was pathetic and lied to try and save her own back but after I talked to a doctor she was reprimanded as she made my condition worse the ward I was on they had excellent student nurses and very dedicated staff but only one bad apple. I think that yes they are undervalued and which ever government is in power they rely on there good will for the NHS to work some were absolutely exhausted and working 12 hr shifts to cope.
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Post by Northy on May 8, 2017 16:24:03 GMT
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, PFI costs are what the big problem is with the NHS, it's killing it, In 1990, hospitals paid no charge on their land, buildings and assets, today many PFI hospitals are paying more than 15% and rising fast. It is a product of vastly high fixed interest rates and a measure of "over-indexation", in which unitary charges are increased in line with inflation. At a time when the NHS budget is at best standing still or falling, this inflationary index means credit default or bankruptcy. The high costs of PFI debt charges means that the NHS can only operate anything from a third to half as many services and staff as it would have done had the scheme been funded through conventional procurement. In other words, for every PFI hospital up and running, equity investors and bankers are charging as if for two. The debt is toxic.
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Post by essexstokey on May 8, 2017 16:47:35 GMT
no pfi cost dwarf into insignificance to what exorbitant cost drug companys charge for there drugs most of which have been discovered by people donating money for research.
The other thing is the amount of useless bureaucrats with large salaries that were brought in to run the NHS and are useless
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 16:58:39 GMT
To be honest from my experience a fair few of them are only good for that work. I'll add some of their Drs to that too Fucking shocking some of them I spent about 40 hours in hospital after I broke and dislocated my ankle recently, doctors and consultants were superb as were the nurses the first night, the next two days the nurses were fucking shocking, I didn't need anything which was a good job watching another couple of patients struggle to get them to do anything. I can believe it I was in urology for 3 days a year or two back and I saw some really poor staff. In fact there were only two nurses in the whole department that I would trust to ....I won't go into detail but some of the stuff they did and didn't do was criminal on a personal level and other patients Wish to god I'd done something more at the time
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 8, 2017 16:58:48 GMT
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, PFI costs are what the big problem is with the NHS, it's killing it, In 1990, hospitals paid no charge on their land, buildings and assets, today many PFI hospitals are paying more than 15% and rising fast. It is a product of vastly high fixed interest rates and a measure of "over-indexation", in which unitary charges are increased in line with inflation. At a time when the NHS budget is at best standing still or falling, this inflationary index means credit default or bankruptcy. The high costs of PFI debt charges means that the NHS can only operate anything from a third to half as many services and staff as it would have done had the scheme been funded through conventional procurement. In other words, for every PFI hospital up and running, equity investors and bankers are charging as if for two. The debt is toxic. You've assumed conventional procurement wouldn't have seen escalating initial costs. It was found that the big building companies were setting exorbitant agreed prices and then would share out the contracts between themselves i.e. a different company would have the lowest bid. I suspect the idea of the government was to keep the PSBR lower in case we decided to go into the Euro? However, this was never likely as our housing market is financed entirely different from the rest of Europe.
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Post by redstriper on May 8, 2017 17:01:44 GMT
I'll throw in the decentralisation which has created both postcode lotteries and meant that where we used have one group of managers deciding policies we now have duplicated the entire bloated structure in every trust.
it's a basket case, but politicians are scared to speak out against it because they're all too concerned about being re-elected.
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Post by Northy on May 8, 2017 19:10:18 GMT
I spent about 40 hours in hospital after I broke and dislocated my ankle recently, doctors and consultants were superb as were the nurses the first night, the next two days the nurses were fucking shocking, I didn't need anything which was a good job watching another couple of patients struggle to get them to do anything. I can believe it I was in urology for 3 days a year or two back and I saw some really poor staff. In fact there were only two nurses in the whole department that I would trust to ....I won't go into detail but some of the stuff they did and didn't do was criminal on a personal level and other patients Wish to god I'd done something more at the time so can I, my mum was recently in for 3 months, some were fine but some just stood around talking, that was on most occasuons I visited, my mum, partly paralysed herself was having to press buzzers to get people into the ward to help other patients. I withessed one having to sit down and have a rest in the middle of changing an empty bed with clean bedding as she was that fat she was out of breath.
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Post by 3putts on May 8, 2017 19:56:47 GMT
well i can only speak from my own experience and the nurses at the old stoke hospital were wonderful. before people jump to conclusions and criticise them just remember they have to deal with the public including oddballs and attention seekers[like the guy in the room next to me] so i fully understand why they choose to ignore some calls. they are only human and some will have good and bad days.just by going into the nursing proffesion means to me that they have a heart of gold.
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Post by essexstokey on May 14, 2017 7:07:54 GMT
NHS 'dangerously short of nurses' link
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Post by rat on Jul 5, 2017 19:13:50 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 5, 2017 19:50:19 GMT
69th actually. The Mrs was working for them 19 years ago and both of us went to a 50th celebration in Plymouth. Great night and raised £1000s for charity.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 5, 2017 20:03:58 GMT
We are used to the comfort & safety of the NHS, that we take it for granted 👩🏻⚕️
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jul 5, 2017 20:30:24 GMT
I spent about 40 hours in hospital after I broke and dislocated my ankle recently, doctors and consultants were superb as were the nurses the first night, the next two days the nurses were fucking shocking, I didn't need anything which was a good job watching another couple of patients struggle to get them to do anything. I can believe it I was in urology for 3 days a year or two back and I saw some really poor staff. In fact there were only two nurses in the whole department that I would trust to ....I won't go into detail but some of the stuff they did and didn't do was criminal on a personal level and other patients Wish to god I'd done something more at the time Hysterectomy Mary?
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Post by rat on Jul 5, 2017 20:34:39 GMT
We are used to the comfort & safety of the NHS, that we take it for granted 👩🏻⚕️ My GP recently referred me to see a Specialist . The Specialist requested 5 x-rays and 5 ultrasound scans ; both my feet , both my hands and my right knee. How much do you think ? Nuffield (Private) : £2,600.00 NHS : FREE Thankyou NHS . We love you
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 20:53:21 GMT
I can believe it I was in urology for 3 days a year or two back and I saw some really poor staff. In fact there were only two nurses in the whole department that I would trust to ....I won't go into detail but some of the stuff they did and didn't do was criminal on a personal level and other patients Wish to god I'd done something more at the time Hysterectomy Mary? Blocked kidney, due to a stone .....put a temporary stent in via my widge.....from my kidney to my bladder......then forgot about it for 9 months, until my body started to reject it while at work, pissing out blood and severe kidney pain. Only to find the reason they forgot is because they hadn't put me on the computer.....I won't go into the bit later when I had the stone removed because that's where it goes down bank
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Post by felonious on Jul 5, 2017 21:00:30 GMT
I can believe it I was in urology for 3 days a year or two back and I saw some really poor staff. In fact there were only two nurses in the whole department that I would trust to ....I won't go into detail but some of the stuff they did and didn't do was criminal on a personal level and other patients Wish to god I'd done something more at the time Hysterectomy Mary? Hysterical rectumy more like
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Post by felonious on Jul 5, 2017 21:03:45 GMT
Blocked kidney, due to a stone .....put a temporary stent in via my widge.....from my kidney to my bladder......then forgot about it for 9 months, until my body started to reject it while at work, pissing out blood and severe kidney pain. Only to find the reason they forgot is because they hadn't put me on the computer.....I won't go into the bit later when I had the stone removed because that's where it goes down bank You can't blame them. They probably got to the male/ female/ other classification and then lost the will to live
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jul 5, 2017 21:14:54 GMT
Blocked kidney, due to a stone .....put a temporary stent in via my widge.....from my kidney to my bladder......then forgot about it for 9 months, until my body started to reject it while at work, pissing out blood and severe kidney pain. Only to find the reason they forgot is because they hadn't put me on the computer.....I won't go into the bit later when I had the stone removed because that's where it goes down bank You can't blame them. They probably got to the male/ female/ other classification and then lost the will to live I think it's called Non fucking Binary or something nowadays. Some Canadian cunts have just refused to select the sex of their child when registering the birth because they don't want to label them and want the child to be able to decide their own sex when they're older. They should shoot the fuckers and put the chavvie into care.
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