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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Mar 30, 2017 10:34:35 GMT
This might be my favourite picture so far.
It's a wonderful panoramic view of the ground. The match is against the Vale on the 24th September 1921 and at the time, it was the biggest crowd (27,015) we had ever had since our inception, it finished as a 0-0 draw.
The picture is certainly worth enlarging.
You can see that there are people actually seated behind the goal but they are inside the running track.
I'm sure that if you told a lot of Stokies, that at one time the Stoke End had a roof on it and there was seating at the front of the Boothen End, they would laugh you out of the room!
bayernoatcake eddyclamp Davef Kenilworth_Stokies lagwafis lordb wizzardofdribble
That's absolutely superb. The view from the old oval Boothen End at a potteries derby! And they said the Boothen End could never be seated.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 30, 2017 11:51:38 GMT
And this is the Stoke team that played in the match above.
Will post some more pics later when I've got a min. Thank you for all these fascinating contributions. It's unearthed a terrific hidden history of Stoke City and the wider community. If we had a venue now that held regular athletics and cycling fixtures, I'm sure we'd think it was good for the area. What I've seen in this thread is a basis for a book, as much of the information was lost and needs preserving.
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Post by Davef on Mar 30, 2017 12:42:02 GMT
This might be my favourite picture so far.
It's a wonderful panoramic view of the ground. The match is against the Vale on the 24th September 1921 and at the time, it was the biggest crowd (27,015) we had ever had since our inception, it finished as a 0-0 draw.
The picture is certainly worth enlarging. If you click on it twice it goes quite large.
You can see that there are people actually seated behind the goal but they are inside the running track.
I'm sure that if you told a lot of Stokies, that at one time the Stoke End had a roof on it and there was seating at the front of the Boothen End, they would laugh you out of the room!
bayernoatcake eddyclamp Davef Kenilworth_Stokies lagwafis lordb wizzardofdribble
That's a great picture...looks like the corporate, prawn sandwich eating brigade behind the Boothen End goal to me.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Mar 30, 2017 12:58:06 GMT
I'm gonna try to redo the "Vic through the Ages" plan I started doing then lost when my hard drive crashed. My aim was to animate it, put some suitable music to it then stick in on YouTube. Annoyingly I delayed posting it pre-season because there was some signing activity, if I remember rightly, and then I never got round to doing it.
Paul Spencer, I'll email you the draft of it to check you agree with the order of events if you like? Will be fairly basic plan stuff with a few captions. I did look into doing a full-on SketchUp model of it but that was far too much like hard work.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Mar 30, 2017 14:25:29 GMT
This might be my favourite picture so far.
It's a wonderful panoramic view of the ground. The match is against the Vale on the 24th September 1921 and at the time, it was the biggest crowd (27,015) we had ever had since our inception, it finished as a 0-0 draw.
The picture is certainly worth enlarging. If you click on it twice it goes quite large.
You can see that there are people actually seated behind the goal but they are inside the running track.
I'm sure that if you told a lot of Stokies, that at one time the Stoke End had a roof on it and there was seating at the front of the Boothen End, they would laugh you out of the room!
bayernoatcake eddyclamp Davef Kenilworth_Stokies lagwafis lordb wizzardofdribble
That's a great picture...looks like the corporate, prawn sandwich eating brigade behind the Boothen End goal to me. Isn't that Old Stokie as a lad sat to the far left of the Boothen pitch seating area?
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Post by AlliG on Mar 30, 2017 17:39:22 GMT
Paul. I love the above picture of the "farm gate" as a "hurdle" What was the race. Who could scrump for apples and get away without being caught by the farmer?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 30, 2017 18:03:32 GMT
I'm gonna try to redo the "Vic through the Ages" plan I started doing then lost when my hard drive crashed. My aim was to animate it, put some suitable music to it then stick in on YouTube. Annoyingly I delayed posting it pre-season because there was some signing activity, if I remember rightly, and then I never got round to doing it. Paul Spencer, I'll email you the draft of it to check you agree with the order of events if you like? Will be fairly basic plan stuff with a few captions. I did look into doing a full-on SketchUp model of it but that was far too much like hard work.
Yeah sounds good.
I was fully intending, once this thread had reached it natural conclusion, of collating it all into chronological order, maybe as a facebook page or something.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 30, 2017 19:10:02 GMT
These three pictures are slightly off topic but I thought they were all really interesting for various reasons.
Again they blow up quite well if you enlarge them.
28th April 1923
The caption below this pic describes Scott the Liverpool goalkeeper as the Liverpool custodian, rather than the goalkeeper, I've noticed this is very common amongst reports at the time, at what point they regularly became referred to as goalkeepers I have no idea. 22nd September 1923 The picture above is interesting because the opposition comes from Nelson (22nd September 1923), I'm pretty sure that this would have been the only season that we would have played league matches against them. You'll also notice that in the caption, the Nelson keeper is described as the 'custodian.' 30th April 1923 Finally the picture on the right shows the train carrying the Bolton team with the 1923 FA Cup (the first to be won at Wembley) slowing down at Stoke station, to allow the crowds that had gathered to get a glimpse of the cup. If (say) ManU won the FA cup, just how many people would turn out at Stoke station nowadays I wonder?
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 30, 2017 19:49:26 GMT
This might be my favourite picture so far.
It's a wonderful panoramic view of the ground. The match is against the Vale on the 24th September 1921 and at the time, it was the biggest crowd (27,015) we had ever had since our inception, it finished as a 0-0 draw.
The picture is certainly worth enlarging. If you click on it twice it goes quite large.
You can see that there are people actually seated behind the goal but they are inside the running track.
I'm sure that if you told a lot of Stokies, that at one time the Stoke End had a roof on it and there was seating at the front of the Boothen End, they would laugh you out of the room!
bayernoatcake eddyclamp Davef Kenilworth_Stokies lagwafis lordb wizzardofdribble
They look a well heeled lot sitting by the side of the pitch. Perhaps it's the first recorded picture of a prawn sandwich brigade
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 30, 2017 19:49:30 GMT
The caption below this pic describes Scott the Liverpool goalkeeper as the Liverpool custodian, rather than the goalkeeper, I've noticed this is very common amongst reports at the time, at what point they regularly became referred to as goalkeepers I have no idea.
You'll also notice that in the caption, the Nelson keeper is described as the 'custodian.'
The phrase "the hapless custodian" is one that has been bandied around in my family since I was a kid, as a kind of tongue-in-cheek old-fashioned way of talking about a beaten goalkeeper. Not sure where it came from but if I had to guess I'd say it probably appeared in some old humorous literature like Three Men in a Boat or Jeeves and Wooster or something. The word goalkeeper can be found as far back as the 19th century though, my hunch is that custodian was more of an alternative, more literary-sounding word that professional writers employed, rather than the habitually-used word for the position. This is a fantastic thread by the way, I've only been able to dip in here and there but would be very interested in whatever summary(ies) come out of it.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Mar 31, 2017 12:23:46 GMT
Bit of a crap quality picture, apologies for that. it's a scan from the Wade Matthews book Encyclopedia of Stoke City showing the Boothen Stand corner in 1920 prior to later redevelopment in the 60s, including the old player change hut in the corner.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Mar 31, 2017 12:24:41 GMT
And another in 1960 of the same corner.
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Post by Davef on Mar 31, 2017 19:35:24 GMT
Great views of the Butler Street Stand and Stoke End in this video from 1962.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 2, 2017 19:11:20 GMT
First off I must apologise for the length of this post but last Wednesday we found a fascinating record of the minutes from the shareholders meeting at the end of the 1903 season, which led to a series of major developments of the ground, including the roof being added to the Stoke End and the Butler Street stand being redeveloped, including the introduction of the barrel roof which would remain there until it's infamous collapse in the January of 1976.
The maps below show a 'before' and 'after' of the ground as result of the (significant) investments made.
The video below (from 1902) shows what the original Butler Street stand looked like, as well as showing the uncovered Stoke End.
The minutes were very difficult to photograph and although I've included the originals at the end the of this post, I've also retyped them, so that they are easier to read.
Really it's only the part highlighted in red that relates to the developments at the ground but I thought I would include the entire minutes as there are some interesting elements contained within them. I'll return to them later.
The retyped minutes are below: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
STOKE FOOTBALL CLUB
ANNUAL MEETING OF SHAREHOLDERS
A SUCCESSFUL SEASON
£2,000 TO BE SPENT ON THE GROUND
The eighth annual meeting of the Stoke Football Club Limited, was held at Stoke on Friday evening, when Mr. W. A. Cowlishaw presided over a moderate attendance of shareholders.
MR. AUSTERBERRY’S ILLNESS At the outset, the Chairman spoke with deep regret of the enforced absence of the secretary, Mr. Austerberry, owing to his having undergone a somewhat serious operation. He added that he had just received information to the effect that he was going on very well and had stood the operation as well as could have been expected or hoped. All present would send Mr. Austerberry their heartiest wishes that he might soon be restored to his usual health. (Hear, hear!). Apologies were then read from Mr. Huntbach, one of the directors and from Mr. Ashwell. Both letters contained congratulations on the past year’s working of the club.
THE CHAIRMAN’S SPEECH The Chairman then moved to the adoption of the report and balance sheet, which have already been printed in the “Sentinel” and show an excess of income over expenditure for the year of £1,477 12s. 6d. He said the club opened last year under a cloud of suspension for a very regrettable incident which, he was proud to say, had not been repeated, and in respect of which he thought they were rather harshly dealt with. They also commenced under another cloud, in respect of the few weeks which it took their team to find their feet, and the directors to place in their proper positions the excellent material that they proved to have in their ranks.
A Good Season Fortunately that happy selection was hit at a comparatively early period of the season and the team went through with most excellent results. The club reached the highest position it had ever held in the League competition but they had bad luck in the national cup competition. They were drawn away in each round, at the last minute they were deprived of the services of their goalkeeper. But he must bear testimony to the fact that Wlikes very nobly fell into the place vacated by Mr. Roose and ever since that match he had rendered the club, under all circumstances, very valuable assistance.
Injuries to Players The year’s working in respect of injuries to players had been a most serious one – not as regards numbers so much as of the nature of the injuries which some of the players had sustained. Capewell, who was one of their most promising players, has absolutely broken down and there was little probability of his playing football again for a season or two, if at all. As he before mentioned, Roose met with a most serious accident, and he had undergone some three months of great pain and suffering, but he was on the right road to recovery (Hear, hear!) and had come to the meeting to show that he was looking fit and ready for the fray next season. Len Hales never recovered from his accident of the previous season but he was only looking forward to playing regularly with the Stoke team next season in absolutely renewed health. Other minor injuries to Baddeley, Higginson and others had taken place, but there was no doubt that all the players would turn up fit and well on the 1st September.
Next Season’s Players The directors had secured what they thought were some very good new players, and the team, as a whole, he thought, would hear favourable comparison with any that the club had had in the past. They had as goalkeepers Roose and Viner (of Birkenhead), the new man being a player of good repute, one who had been much sought after and whose services for the Stoke club had been secured without any transfer fees, thanks to the diligence and perseverance of their secretary. They seemed to be in the happy position of finding the best talent there was playing about, and it generally came to them without paying for it, but when it went away it generally brought a bit of lucre into the exchequer. (Laughter and hear, hear!). Well, they had as backs four first-class men, fit for any company – Burgess, Benson, Hartshorne and Meredith. The only difficulty there would be, so far as backs were concerned, would be to choose the best two. As half-backs they had Baddeley, Holford, Bradley, Holdcroft and Mcore, all of whom they considered first team men and he thought there was no doubt whatever that Sam Ashworth would once more be seen in the team. For forwards they had Whitehouse, Higginson, Watkins, Capes, Harris, Jones (of Hanley Swifts), Gallimore (of recent fame, of East Vale) Woolley (of Dresden Queen’s Park), Scuter (of Ashwood Villa) and many prominent local juniors. The latter had been engaged wholly on account of their past work and their physique and were such as, they hoped, would enable the director, in the near future, to draft them into the first team. The forward rank of the first team might possibly be strengthened but they had in hand negotiations with one or two other players that, he thought, would materially strengthen any apparent weakness in that direction. In the absence of Mr. Austerberry, Mr. Whittaker had undertaken to fulfil the duties of looking after the players they were at present in negotiation with.
Recognition of Club and Players One of the most pleasing features of the past season was that the club, as a club, and their players, as players, had received the highest recognition at the hand of football legislators. Mr. Cowlishaw pointed out how Capes, who played for several first-class clubs before coming to Stoke, was honoured last season. He thought that, considering they had such a local team, they stood as high in the estimation of the football public and had as many players who had achieved international honours, as any club in existence – a matter of which the directors were very proud and in respect of which they had given every facility to the players to obtain coveted honours. Then they had a great compliment paid to the club, for they not only had the practical offer of a semi-final match to be played on their ground, which circumstances did not permit them to accept but they also had the unique distinction of having their ground chosen as the venue of the final of the English Cup in case of a draw at Crystal Palace. So far as their players, club and ground were concerned, they stood in a very exalted position.
A Lease of the Ground The directors had not been idle in looking after the interests of the club. They had had a long series of negotiations – negotiations of a very kindly nature – with the Rector of Stoke, who was one of the staunchest supporters of the club (Hear, hear!) and the result had been that they had acquired a lease of the football ground for a period of 21 years (Hear, hear!) There had never been a matter of business transacted on behalf of the club since its inception which would prove to be of so great value as this lease for so long a term of years. They had previously been running on short leases, which had debarred them from developing the resources of the club to the fullest extent but now that the terms of this lease had been settled, the directors felt justified in developing the ground to the fullest extent compatible with their resources.
Great Improvements to the Ground As a result they saw before them on the table plans of almost stupendous magnitude, when they considered how in the past the club had been struggling in the very depths of insolvency. They proposed to give covered accommodation, irrespective of the old stand, for, on a modest computation, for 12,000 people. The work was actually in hand, and the first steel column had been placed in position that day. The whole of the structural steel work would be completed in four weeks later: so that by the 1st of August, or by the date fixed for the annual athletic festival, they hoped to have ready these noble structures. The directors might have travelled fast in having fixed up these arrangements but he wanted them to fully understand the position and then to confirm fully and freely the action they had taken. Mr. Cowlishaw explained that the lease with the Rector of Stoke had not actually been signed but it had been approved by everybody interested and had gone through a course which practically made it as good as a completed document. The directors knew that if any alterations were to be carried out they should put them in hand at once and not wait until the lease was signed, sealed and exchanged. Consequently they had anticipated that no difficulty would occur and had had plans approved, contracts let and the work actually put in hand.
The Financial Position He ought to tell them that the work would entail an expenditure of something approaching £2,000 – money which he thought would be exceptionally well spent. They had not actually got possession of the whole of that sum. The balance sheet showed that they had in hand the sum of £1,790 and that everything the club owed on April 30th had been paid except £34. Therefore they had a sum of money at the bank equal to the total amount of share capital. If they were so disposed and thought more of their money than of the club, they could hand back to each shareholder the money that he had paid for his shares and the club would still not be actually bankrupt because it would still have an asset in the lease of the ground for 21 years, the value of which he dared not estimate, lest his estimate should appear to rosy. Moreover they had at least the amount of their share capital invested on the ground and they had got players equal to more than a good bit of their capital. And therefore the directors thought that, with their approval, they would be justified in putting up these new stands, towards which £1,790 would go a very long way. The remaining money they would raise on their personal responsibility and they would also be responsible for the expenses of the summer time and the summer wages.
Importance of English Cup-Ties Referring to the balance sheet, Mr. Cowlishaw said the only point he would speak of was that the English Cup Competition was one to which they looked for making the greater part, if not the whole, of the profit which they could achieve with the present meed of attendance and success in a season. Therefore the great luck which attended the draw in the cup competitions and the manner in which the men played in the ties were matter of the most vital importance to the welfare and to the earning capacity of the club (Hear, hear!). The payment side of the Stoke Football Club accounts would compare with that of any other club of equal standing and he believed that the club was one of the most, if not the most, economically managed of any occupying such a position. The directors and the manager-secretary (Mr. Austerberry) were most careful in their expenditure and with regard to the wages question had been met in a splendid spirit by their players. He thought no other club belonging to the First League had players who were so loyally attached to their club and if he only dared to speak of the temptations that had been held out to them and the way they had withstood them – well, they would be as proud of them as he was.
Mr. W. Heath seconded the adoption of what he called a “ten minutes” balance sheet. He called it that because had it not been for the last ten minutes of the English cup-tie at Glossop, he was afraid that the balance would have been on the wrong side (Hear, hear!). He disagreed with the Chairman when he said Stoke were harshly dealt with in having their ground closed. If spectators would forget themselves they must be taught a lesson. Most of the big clubs had had a similar warning and Stoke were not alone in kicking over the traces. Mr. Heath regarded the balance sheet as an excellent one. He agreed with all the directors were doing in improving the ground and he hoped they would increase the covered accommodation on the 6d side. It appeared that the stands could be easily extended and when the extension were completed Stoke would have a ground equal, from a spectators’ point of view, to any in the kingdom (Hear, hear!). So long as he could see that the directors were improving the position of the club, increasing the stand accommodation and otherwise improving the ground, he was content to wait for his dividend (Hear, hear!). If it never came at all he would know that the spectators would have all the advantage and what little the dividend was none of them would ever miss. Mr. G. H. Davies, in supporting the adoption, said when he looked at the improvements the club had made to the ground at so little cost he wondered how it had been done. The new stands would not only give every satisfaction to their supporters but would enhance their “gates”. Mr. Davies explained that the vantage ground under the new stand would be “stepped” up, so as to enable everyone to see the game without standing on tip-toes. This would give their supporters an advantage over being crowded on the old stand side. The report and balance-sheet were unanimously adopted. The retiring directors, Mesrs. W. Atkins, J. Davies, J. Hand, F. Huntbach and F. S. Johnson were re-elected and Mr. J. H. P. Montford was re-appointed auditor. The Chairman proposed a vote of thanks to the secretary and manager, Mr. Austerberry, to the players and to the trainer Mr. J. Eccles, for their loyal service. The players, he said, had given them of their best, were willing and easy of discipline and were a most steady and reliable set of lads. As to Mr. Austerberry once could not speak too highly. The knowledge of the game and of football technique required in conducting such a very large business organisation as the Stoke F.C. had grown to be, needed the abilities of no ordinary man. Mr. Austerberry was not an ordinary man and he had given the utmost satisfaction (Hear, hear!).
Mr. G. Whittaker seconded the vote, which was responded to in a racy speech by Mr. Roose. The meeting closed with a vote of thanks to the directors and to the chairman.
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I thought there were a couple of things that were interesting outside of the discussion with regard to the ground improvements.
"He (the Chairman) said the club opened last year under a cloud of suspension for a very regrettable incident which, he was proud to say, had not been repeated, and in respect of which he thought they were rather harshly dealt with." and "He (Mr. Heath) disagreed with the Chairman when he said Stoke were harshly dealt with in having their ground closed. If spectators would forget themselves they must be taught a lesson."
Here they are discussing the crowd trouble that had taken place after the Grimsby match (in the video above) which led to a three match ban on games at the Victoria Ground. Maybe they should have introduced id cards!
"Then they had a great compliment paid to the club, for they not only had the practical offer of a semi-final match to be played on their ground, which circumstances did not permit them to accept but they also had the unique distinction of having their ground chosen as the venue of the final of the English Cup in case of a draw at Crystal Palace."
Incredible to think that we were only a drawn match away from actually hosting the FA Cup final!
The general mood of optimism that purveys these minutes really is quite something but sadly just six shorts years later we were to be relegated from the league completely.
Below is the original photographs of the minutes.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Apr 2, 2017 20:01:25 GMT
Incredible stuff. I can't believe how far back you've found this footage from. I had no idea such footage existed. The text just adds a whole layer of insight into the development of the club too.
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Apr 2, 2017 21:01:09 GMT
Fantastic research from both yourself and your wife Paul! I am loving this thread.
Thank you very much!
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Post by Davef on Apr 3, 2017 7:27:10 GMT
Fantastic research from both yourself and your wife Paul! I am loving this thread. Thank you very much! Hear, hear.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Apr 3, 2017 13:50:15 GMT
I did a bit of crude editing on that Grimsby 1902 clip to produce a panorama of the old-old Butler Street stand (click to make the picture bigger, obvs): You've got to love the commentary about how the Stoke fans took umbrage to the ref's decisions and ended up pelting the Grimsby team charabanc with half-end bricks. Makes you proud, doesn't it?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2017 19:29:58 GMT
I did a bit of crude editing on that Grimsby 1902 clip to produce a panorama of the old-old Butler Street stand (click to make the picture bigger, obvs): You've got to love the commentary about how the Stoke fans took umbrage to the ref's decisions and ended up pelting the Grimsby team charabanc with half-end bricks. Makes you proud, doesn't it? Excellent job, well done!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Apr 3, 2017 19:31:38 GMT
Best thread ever.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 5, 2017 21:18:20 GMT
First close-up of the stand at the Stoke End, clearly showing why the stand looked so far away from the pitch in the photographs from the early 30's.
This picture was taken in June 1926 when a 1,000 school kids demonstrated the importance of physical education.
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Post by Davef on Apr 5, 2017 21:25:46 GMT
That photo would suggest that the banking in the original photo in this thread was very shallow on the Butler Street side and steeper on the Boothen Road side.
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Post by ParaPsych on Apr 5, 2017 21:28:45 GMT
That photo would suggest that the banking in the original photo in this thread was very shallow on the Butler Street side and steeper on the Boothen Road side. Which is what I said all along!
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Apr 6, 2017 8:57:32 GMT
That photo would suggest that the banking in the original photo in this thread was very shallow on the Butler Street side and steeper on the Boothen Road side. Which is what I said all along! You can see the embankment on the Old Boothen Road side on the 1925 OS map (see attachment below - click to embiggen). Interestingly the pic above also shows the range of huts in the Stoke End / Butler Street corner which appear right from the very earliest maps as being part of the athletic club complex:
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 6, 2017 9:14:33 GMT
Which is what I said all along! You can see the embankment on the Old Boothen Road side on the 1925 OS map (see attachment below - click to embiggen). Interestingly the pic above also shows the range of huts in the Stoke End / Butler Street corner which appear right from the very earliest maps as being part of the athletic club complex:
Yes you're right, I think you can see those 'huts' in the picture I posted above.
Where did you get the reference that they were part of the athletic club complex from Chris?
Cheers
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Apr 6, 2017 9:59:12 GMT
You can see the embankment on the Old Boothen Road side on the 1925 OS map (see attachment below - click to embiggen). Interestingly the pic above also shows the range of huts in the Stoke End / Butler Street corner which appear right from the very earliest maps as being part of the athletic club complex:
Yes you're right, I think you can see those 'huts' in the picture I posted above.
Where did you get the reference that they were part of the athletic club complex from Chris?
Cheers
Bit of guesswork to be honest, they're obviously fairly old in your 1926 photo above. I haven't found a map which shows the ground built but not the huts yet. We could really do with a map that labels the site as 'Athletic Club' from before the football club moved there to be sure. The nearest before-and-after maps that I can find are: Have you come across a map in between?
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Post by Davef on Apr 18, 2017 11:19:03 GMT
Cracking video featuring Stoke and Middlesbrough in the FA Cup in the late fifties. You can clearly see the gas works behind the Boothen Stand and footage of the players coming out of the old dressing rooms in the Boothen End/Stand corner.
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Post by staffsvilla on Apr 18, 2017 11:24:43 GMT
What a fantastic thread ,as one who visited The Vic on many occasions i really appreciate the pictures,posts and the detailed history of a proper old school ground now sadly gone,i drive past the site quite regularly and to see how it has been left kind of mirror images what money and sky have done to football !
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Post by lordb on Apr 18, 2017 19:48:03 GMT
Cracking video featuring Stoke and Middlesbrough in the FA Cup in the late fifties. You can clearly see the gas works behind the Boothen Stand and footage of the players coming out of the old dressing rooms in the Boothen End/Stand corner. We won 3.1 but can only see their goal
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Post by Davef on Apr 18, 2017 19:57:06 GMT
Cracking video featuring Stoke and Middlesbrough in the FA Cup in the late fifties. You can clearly see the gas works behind the Boothen Stand and footage of the players coming out of the old dressing rooms in the Boothen End/Stand corner. We won 3.1 but can only see their goal They only had a select amount of filming time in those days didn't they so probably didn't have the cameras rolling for our goals. Brian Clough was a prolific goal scorer (251 in 274 games!) so when the ball went anywhere near him they probably started filming!
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