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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:09:21 GMT
That's what I thought 😁 get back in your sett and let Mickey Mouse stand up for himself 😉 Admin!!!!!!!
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 20:10:25 GMT
That's what I thought 😁 get back in your sett and let Mickey Mouse stand up for himself 😉 Admin!!!!!!! ❄️ (EE board ain't it 😉)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:11:34 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 20:12:46 GMT
Playing in the deep end now, kiddo. Hop back to getting the refugees filling in the potholes with the pensioners 😁
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:15:18 GMT
Playing in the deep end now, kiddo. Hop back to getting the refugees filling in the potholes with the pensioners 😁 I don’t need to tell this pensioner. He’s bollocked one in himself😉
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 20:17:55 GMT
Playing in the deep end now, kiddo. Hop back to getting the refugees filling in the potholes with the pensioners 😁 I don’t need to tell this pensioner. He’s bollocked one in himself😉 Love Arnie. Pretty sure he caused more damage though (can't remember the story and happy to be provided wrong).
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:19:53 GMT
I don’t need to tell this pensioner. He’s bollocked one in himself😉 Love Arnie. Pretty sure he caused more damage though (can't remember the story and happy to be provided wrong). At least he’s out there in the field. A pensioner and an immigrant rolled into one😉 It did look proper dodgy to be fair but he does make me smile the scamp😀
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 20:23:55 GMT
Love Arnie. Pretty sure he caused more damage though (can't remember the story and happy to be provided wrong). At least he’s out there in the field. A pensioner and an immigrant rolled into one😉 It did look proper dodgy to be fair but he does make me smile the scamp😀 www.independent.co.uk/life-style/arnold-schwarzenegger-pothole-b2318882.htmlSee! Look what you've made me do now. You're like bloody Sunak, everything you bring up turns to shite - you've even done Arnie in now.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:27:00 GMT
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Jan 22, 2024 20:29:52 GMT
I don’t need to tell this pensioner. He’s bollocked one in himself😉 Love Arnie. Pretty sure he caused more damage though (can't remember the story and happy to be provided wrong). Yep, it was a utility service trench.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:37:59 GMT
Love Arnie. Pretty sure he caused more damage though (can't remember the story and happy to be provided wrong). Yep, it was a utility service trench. Maybe they should have done something about it
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 22, 2024 22:13:04 GMT
Lol, so every protest against a govt that turns violent is an insurrection. Give over 😆 What would you describe it as? A riot. Dont know. But an attempt to over throw a govt i think is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I mean do you genuinely think they thought we're here to take over America with no (or a few unloaded guns as I've noticed wannabee say) weapons. I just don't see it myself. But hey I'm no expert.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 22, 2024 22:23:56 GMT
It was absolutely an insurrection a rubbish one but an insurrection nonetheless what else was it? A rubbish insurrection? So not planned properly, no weapons, no generals. A bunch of knuckle draggers rioting on Capitol Hill. Did they really believe they were a match for the US government. You know, that govt that thinks nothing of bombing the shit out of countries all over the globe. I just can't make that leap. A good number of them thought Trump was telling them to storm the Capitol and that he would come riding in to help them out. One of them was wearing a hat with bison horns. We aren't talking about the brightest sparks on the campfire but there isn't a minimum IQ requirement to start an insurrection.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 22:24:53 GMT
What would you describe it as? A riot. Dont know. But an attempt to over throw a govt i think is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I mean do you genuinely think they thought we're here to take over America with no (or a few unloaded guns as I've noticed wannabee say) weapons. I just don't see it myself. But hey I'm no expert. So are you going with a riot or you don't know? Personally I'm quite happy with calling it exactly what it was - insurrection. Although you may prefer to go for a putsch? Broken down simply, it was a group of complete nutcases, dog whistled by a self confessed sex offender doing everything he could to stage a revolt to prevent the peaceful transition of power following a democratic election defeat.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 22, 2024 22:29:17 GMT
The definition of insurrection is "a violent uprising against authority or government" which is what happened on Capitol Hill. The fact it wasn't violent enough to succeed is irrelevant, the fact it was violent was enough to make it an insurrection. You don't let someone off trying to rob a bank because they were a bit shit and got caught. Lol, so every protest against a govt that turns violent is an insurrection. Give over 😆 Storming the national capital building and threatening the elected representatives is an insurrection. It's a crap one but it is an insurrection. An insurrection is not defined by the quality of the planning or the chances of success. A violent protest nowhere near the seat of power that does not actually directly seem to threaten the process of government is not an insurrection.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 22, 2024 22:30:21 GMT
A riot. Dont know. But an attempt to over throw a govt i think is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I mean do you genuinely think they thought we're here to take over America with no (or a few unloaded guns as I've noticed wannabee say) weapons. I just don't see it myself. But hey I'm no expert. So are you going with a riot or you don't know? Personally I'm quite happy with calling it exactly what it was - insurrection. Although you may prefer to go for a putsch? Broken down simply, it was a group of complete nutcases, dog whistled by a self confessed sex offender doing everything he could to stage a revolt to prevent the peaceful transition of power following a democratic election defeat. As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2024 22:34:46 GMT
They went into the Capitol building looking for Pence and Pelosi. That’s after chants of “hang Mike Pence” outside the building. Pence was, at the time, confirming the results of the election. What do you think that they were trying to achieve if they were not trying to overturn the election? What is an insurrection if not a movement to alter the course of a country by forcibly instated another leader (in this case, Trump)? I don’t believe that the average person who went into the building spend days plotting for it to happen (I’m sure some did). I do believe that they got riled up at the march and rally, and that makes them no less guilty. Fair enough. A load of uneducated yobs shouting nasty things and claiming an election was stolen doesn't conjure up images of a group of people seriously intent on achieving the reinstatement of Trump ie an insurrection. We're talking about America the most heavily armed country on the planet. Its not exactly going to end up well for them. Especially unarmed. And I can see why some draw comparisons to BLM riots that a large %age of the media were saying were mostly peaceful. Its a confusing narrative. So Capitol Hill was a violent insurrection but 12 months of buildings being razed to the ground was mostly peaceful. Hmmm. As I say I'm no Trump fan but I'm just trying to balance the arguement in my head and to now I'm not buying it. He facilitated a riot no doubt but I can't see beyond that really. So, bombs and guns were found on Capitol Hill rioters. I don’t believe that the BLM riots were mostly peaceful. I do believe that if you break in to your seat of power and come within fourty odd feet of grabbing the man in charge of ensure a peaceful transition of power, it’s a little more meaningful though. Would that group of rioters win in a prolonged fight against the U.S. army? No. Could they have killed a tonne of senators and the VP? Yes. They overwhelmed the Capitol Hill police. Oh, you also still have this: www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/fbi-pipe-bombs-jan-6-dnc-rnc-headquarters/
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 22, 2024 22:35:14 GMT
So are you going with a riot or you don't know? Personally I'm quite happy with calling it exactly what it was - insurrection. Although you may prefer to go for a putsch? Broken down simply, it was a group of complete nutcases, dog whistled by a self confessed sex offender doing everything he could to stage a revolt to prevent the peaceful transition of power following a democratic election defeat. As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆 You don't understand the meaning of insurrection. An insurrection is not a riot. An insurrection has a very particular target and a very specific goal. The BLM roots were not an insurrection. What happened at the Capitol was.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 22, 2024 22:49:10 GMT
As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆 You don't understand the meaning of insurrection. An insurrection is not a riot. An insurrection has a very particular target and a very specific goal. The BLM roots were not an insurrection. What happened at the Capitol was. And you do that without being tooled up and armed to the teeth? Do you not think there are special forces all over the shop there. And they're gonna wander in there and take over with horn helmets on 😆 I'm just putting another spin on it. I can't stand trump. But I think insurrection is hamming it up a bit cos politics but maybe not......
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 22:49:20 GMT
So are you going with a riot or you don't know? Personally I'm quite happy with calling it exactly what it was - insurrection. Although you may prefer to go for a putsch? Broken down simply, it was a group of complete nutcases, dog whistled by a self confessed sex offender doing everything he could to stage a revolt to prevent the peaceful transition of power following a democratic election defeat. As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆 No, that's fine. Look it takes some guts to nail your colours to the mast when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so fair play. And it's OK too because ultimately it's a public messageboard and you can believe what you want to believe. There's lots of people who will be envious about how simple you can roll a BLM riot and the 6th January Capitol insurrection together.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 22, 2024 22:51:36 GMT
As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆 No, that's fine. Look it takes some guts to nail your colours to the mast when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so fair play. And it's OK too because ultimately it's a public messageboard and you can believe what you want to believe. There's lots of people who will be envious about how simple you can roll a BLM riot and the 6th January Capitol insurrection together. Glad to get your approval chief, cheers 👍
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 22, 2024 22:53:57 GMT
No, that's fine. Look it takes some guts to nail your colours to the mast when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so fair play. And it's OK too because ultimately it's a public messageboard and you can believe what you want to believe. There's lots of people who will be envious about how simple you can roll a BLM riot and the 6th January Capitol insurrection together. Glad to get your approval chief, cheers 👍 Happy to give it. I mean it could have been worse, you could have gone down the 'just stop oil' route instead of BLM.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 22:55:59 GMT
Glad to get your approval chief, cheers 👍 Happy to give it. I mean it could have been worse, you could have gone down the 'just stop oil' route instead of BLM. Ahem
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 23, 2024 0:18:30 GMT
You don't understand the meaning of insurrection. An insurrection is not a riot. An insurrection has a very particular target and a very specific goal. The BLM roots were not an insurrection. What happened at the Capitol was. And you do that without being tooled up and armed to the teeth? Do you not think there are special forces all over the shop there. And they're gonna wander in there and take over with horn helmets on 😆 I'm just putting another spin on it. I can't stand trump. But I think insurrection is hamming it up a bit cos politics but maybe not...... To be exact no one was actually charged with insurrection but some were charged and prosecuted for "seditious conspiracy". Apparently insurrection carries a maximum of a 10 year gaol sentence and seditious conspiracy carries a maximum sentence of 20 years. Either way what they did was worse than rioting in terms of a criminal offence. In terms of the criminal offence you can't downgrade/spin it just because it was badly executed and didn't succeed.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 23, 2024 0:33:41 GMT
So are you going with a riot or you don't know? Personally I'm quite happy with calling it exactly what it was - insurrection. Although you may prefer to go for a putsch? Broken down simply, it was a group of complete nutcases, dog whistled by a self confessed sex offender doing everything he could to stage a revolt to prevent the peaceful transition of power following a democratic election defeat. As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆 This is a Riot This is an Insurrection
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 23, 2024 0:45:21 GMT
White riot, a riot of their own? 🤘
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 23, 2024 0:49:49 GMT
What a thoroughly nasty piece of work this man is. Well actually 'man' is the wrong word, listen to him, he's got the intellect of a primary school bully ...
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 23, 2024 1:24:45 GMT
"we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country."
Political leaders using words like that never causes any problems.
He's already shown he wants to sic his thugs on his political opponents, tried to end the peaceful transfer of power in the US, and made it very very clear he will back up war crimes against civilians.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 23, 2024 3:03:15 GMT
What a thoroughly nasty piece of work this man is. Well actually 'man' is the wrong word, listen to him, he's got the intellect of a primary school bully ... Again I agree with you Paul but Trump is, despite what people may think, an astute politician and uses racism and xenophobia to keep his stranglehold on his MAGA base. He does so with an innocent insouciance. He knows full well by referring to Haley by a diminutive of her formal first name of Nimarata, given to her by her Sikh immigrant parents, exactly what he is doing. For her part Haley knows that there is no Political Capital to be gained by embracing her Indian heritage within the Republican Party, so she doesn't. It's repulsive
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 23, 2024 3:41:33 GMT
A rubbish insurrection? So not planned properly, no weapons, no generals. A bunch of knuckle draggers rioting on Capitol Hill. Did they really believe they were a match for the US government. You know, that govt that thinks nothing of bombing the shit out of countries all over the globe. I just can't make that leap. A good number of them thought Trump was telling them to storm the Capitol and that he would come riding in to help them out. One of them was wearing a hat with bison horns. We aren't talking about the brightest sparks on the campfire but there isn't a minimum IQ requirement to start an insurrection. That's a scary thought given the paucity of brain cells on here.
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