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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 2, 2023 21:31:58 GMT
That's all well and good but it ain't gonna pay for my mortgage, energy bills or food. It's not going to fix the hospital waiting lists, rivers covered in shite or crumbling schools either. It’s also just not true. He wasn’t able to stop immigration in the US. He tried to “build his wall”, which mostly ended up just renovating existing infrastructure. Mexico did not pay for it. Opioid overdoses flew up under Trump, so it’s not like his tough on drugs stance was successful. Mostly though, GDP grew (so what) but the gap between the wealthy and the poor expanded rapidly. Honestly, who cares about the trans debate, which affects all of 1-2% of an entire population, when the policies Trump implemented saw greater disparity in wealth, investment and most importantly, in health (!) for most of the population? Great, I could say more things and get away with them under Trump, but I’d live a shorter, poorer life. He gives a good speech on why it matters, I can't be arsed type it but he explains it better than I could anyway. There is a longer version of the speech but again I can't be arsed dig it out Morals and principles matter, they're good for the soul. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 21:40:01 GMT
It’s also just not true. He wasn’t able to stop immigration in the US. He tried to “build his wall”, which mostly ended up just renovating existing infrastructure. Mexico did not pay for it. Opioid overdoses flew up under Trump, so it’s not like his tough on drugs stance was successful. Mostly though, GDP grew (so what) but the gap between the wealthy and the poor expanded rapidly. Honestly, who cares about the trans debate, which affects all of 1-2% of an entire population, when the policies Trump implemented saw greater disparity in wealth, investment and most importantly, in health (!) for most of the population? Great, I could say more things and get away with them under Trump, but I’d live a shorter, poorer life. He gives a good speech on why it matters, I can't be arsed type it but he explains it better than I could anyway. There is a longer version of the speech but again I can't be arsed dig it out Morals and principles matter, they're good for the soul. 1-2% of the US population identify as transgender or non-binary. Many of whom will not be seeking sex changes. You think that this is a bigger problem than the 11.6% living in poverty? Poverty matters in the US, you live shorter, harder lives with poorer access to treat conditions. Those in poverty are simultaneously more likely to be obese and to be in a position where they have to ration out their insulin. Trump’s policies changed nothing about transgender %’s in the country. It did lead to more people in poverty though. He’s a piece of crap. He’s about as close as I can get to genuinely hating someone I’ve never met. Just a vile, draft dodging, anti-American piece of scum. |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 2, 2023 21:49:32 GMT
He gives a good speech on why it matters, I can't be arsed type it but he explains it better than I could anyway. There is a longer version of the speech but again I can't be arsed dig it out Morals and principles matter, they're good for the soul. 1-2% of the US population identify as transgender or non-binary. Many of whom will not be seeking sex changes. You think that this is a bigger problem than the 11.6% living in poverty? Poverty matters in the US, you live shorter, harder lives with poorer access to treat conditions. Those in poverty are simultaneously more likely to be obese and to be in a position where they have to ration out their insulin. Trump’s policies changed nothing about transgender %’s in the country. It did lead to more people in poverty though. He’s a piece of crap. He’s about as close as I can get to genuinely hating someone I’ve never met. Just a vile, draft dodging, anti-American piece of scum. Trump did more for the American working class than Biden, Obama or crooked Hillary ever could. You can combat perverts and poverty at the same time the two aren't mutually exclusive. Despite the rabid left trying to prevent Trump from doing his job at every turn he still did better than what most have done in recent years. Trumps ace and weather he wins in 2024 or not (I think he will) he's already woken a lot of the English speaking world up and pissed off a lot of wokeys in the process and that can only be a good thing. FJB |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 2, 2023 21:50:34 GMT
It’s also just not true. He wasn’t able to stop immigration in the US. He tried to “build his wall”, which mostly ended up just renovating existing infrastructure. Mexico did not pay for it. Opioid overdoses flew up under Trump, so it’s not like his tough on drugs stance was successful. Mostly though, GDP grew (so what) but the gap between the wealthy and the poor expanded rapidly. Honestly, who cares about the trans debate, which affects all of 1-2% of an entire population, when the policies Trump implemented saw greater disparity in wealth, investment and most importantly, in health (!) for most of the population? Great, I could say more things and get away with them under Trump, but I’d live a shorter, poorer life. He gives a good speech on why it matters, I can't be arsed type it but he explains it better than I could anyway. There is a longer version of the speech but again I can't be arsed dig it out Morals and principles matter, they're good for the soul. Don't have time to watch it right now but will try to. I do think trans stuff does need to be debated more and I don't think left or right have the answers. But I think both need to address it in a manner which will please most people. Like cvillestokie said there are alot other important issues too which need addressed alongside trans. What I will say though is that for all the talk about trans. What has the conservative or Republican government done during their tenure which gives you confidence they can solve it. Immigration has rocketed under the tory government but people think the party which has overseen record numbers of immigration is the one which can solve the issues due to a 3 word slogan. All talk no action. |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 2, 2023 21:57:14 GMT
He gives a good speech on why it matters, I can't be arsed type it but he explains it better than I could anyway. There is a longer version of the speech but again I can't be arsed dig it out Morals and principles matter, they're good for the soul. Don't have time to watch it right now but will try to. I do think trans stuff does need to be debated more and I don't think left or right have the answers. But I think both need to address it in a manner which will please most people. Like cvillestokie said there are alot other important issues too which need addressed alongside trans. What I will say though is that for all the talk about trans. What has the conservative or Republican government done during their tenure which gives you confidence they can solve it. Immigration has rocketed under the tory government but people think the party which has overseen record numbers of immigration is the one which can solve the issues due to a 3 word slogan. All talk no action. The trans issue and promoting it in schools and shoving it in your face at every opportunity wasn't really a thing in 2016, it's become a plague in recent years. No arguments from me regarding the Tories, they aren't conservative in any way shape or form, they're part of the problem, Starmer is basically a Tory as well from what I can make out from the wet wipe. That being said I'll be voting Labour next time, not because I like Starmer but because the Tories make me physically sick and I don't see how Labour can do any worse than the corrupt, snivelling Tories. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 22:00:31 GMT
1-2% of the US population identify as transgender or non-binary. Many of whom will not be seeking sex changes. You think that this is a bigger problem than the 11.6% living in poverty? Poverty matters in the US, you live shorter, harder lives with poorer access to treat conditions. Those in poverty are simultaneously more likely to be obese and to be in a position where they have to ration out their insulin. Trump’s policies changed nothing about transgender %’s in the country. It did lead to more people in poverty though. He’s a piece of crap. He’s about as close as I can get to genuinely hating someone I’ve never met. Just a vile, draft dodging, anti-American piece of scum. Trump did more for the American working class than Biden, Obama or crooked Hillary ever could. You can combat perverts and poverty at the same time the two aren't mutually exclusive. Despite the rabid left trying to prevent Trump from doing his job at every turn he still did better than what most have done in recent years. Trumps ace and weather he wins in 2024 or not (I think he will) he's already woken a lot of the English speaking world up and pissed off a lot of wokeys in the process and that can only be a good thing. FJB Trump tried to gut the ACA, healthcare for millions of Americans. Why? Because Obama set it up. Pray tell, how is trying to remove access to healthcare better for working class Americans? Biden’s signature policy has been to improve infrastructure across the country. I feel like that will do more for working class Americans than “building a wall”. He ran on being a friend to farmers, yet farmers were better off both before and after the Trump admin. |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 2, 2023 22:10:39 GMT
Trump did more for the American working class than Biden, Obama or crooked Hillary ever could. You can combat perverts and poverty at the same time the two aren't mutually exclusive. Despite the rabid left trying to prevent Trump from doing his job at every turn he still did better than what most have done in recent years. Trumps ace and weather he wins in 2024 or not (I think he will) he's already woken a lot of the English speaking world up and pissed off a lot of wokeys in the process and that can only be a good thing. FJB Trump tried to gut the ACA, healthcare for millions of Americans. Why? Because Obama set it up. Pray tell, how is trying to remove access to healthcare better for working class Americans? Biden’s signature policy has been to improve infrastructure across the country. I feel like that will do more for working class Americans than “building a wall”. He ran on being a friend to farmers, yet farmers were better off both before and after the Trump admin. Biden isn't the president mate the geezer can't even string a coherent sentence together. I think it's both mad and fascinating in equal measure how different people see different things. It's why I enjoy psychology as a subject so much. I doubt I'd ever change your view on the matter, which is completely fine and you certainly won't be changing mine but it's always intersting to hear or see different ways of looking at things. |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 2, 2023 22:17:35 GMT
Some of the sentences that are being handed down seem extreme but I suppose I'm used to the UK's soft arse approach to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 22:33:58 GMT
Trump tried to gut the ACA, healthcare for millions of Americans. Why? Because Obama set it up. Pray tell, how is trying to remove access to healthcare better for working class Americans? Biden’s signature policy has been to improve infrastructure across the country. I feel like that will do more for working class Americans than “building a wall”. He ran on being a friend to farmers, yet farmers were better off both before and after the Trump admin. Biden isn't the president mate the geezer can't even string a coherent sentence together. I think it's both mad and fascinating in equal measure how different people see different things. It's why I enjoy psychology as a subject so much. I doubt I'd ever change your view on the matter, which is completely fine and you certainly won't be changing mine but it's always intersting to hear or see different ways of looking at things. Agreed. I get particularly frustrated on this topic and don’t bend much for reasonable debate but I do at least enjoy blowing off some steam 😂 Enjoy the rest of your evening bud. |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 2, 2023 22:44:49 GMT
trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/incomes-hit-record-high-poverty-reached-record-low-2019/Biden isn't the president mate the geezer can't even string a coherent sentence together. I think it's both mad and fascinating in equal measure how different people see different things. It's why I enjoy psychology as a subject so much. I doubt I'd ever change your view on the matter, which is completely fine and you certainly won't be changing mine but it's always intersting to hear or see different ways of looking at things. Agreed. I get particularly frustrated on this topic and don’t bend much for reasonable debate but I do at least enjoy blowing off some steam 😂 Enjoy the rest of your evening bud. I'm a fan of slippyblunger he's a gd lad. MON |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 2, 2023 22:45:19 GMT
trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/incomes-hit-record-high-poverty-reached-record-low-2019/Biden isn't the president mate the geezer can't even string a coherent sentence together. I think it's both mad and fascinating in equal measure how different people see different things. It's why I enjoy psychology as a subject so much. I doubt I'd ever change your view on the matter, which is completely fine and you certainly won't be changing mine but it's always intersting to hear or see different ways of looking at things. Agreed. I get particularly frustrated on this topic and don’t bend much for reasonable debate but I do at least enjoy blowing off some steam 😂 Enjoy the rest of your evening bud. I'm guilty of being a stubborn fucker that doesn't give an inch as well mate but speaking with yourself and Gawa is a breath of fresh air compared to debating with some of the sausages on here. 😂 Enjoy yours too mucker ✌ |
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Post by wannabee on Sept 3, 2023 0:37:09 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 3, 2023 7:46:39 GMT
Thoughts and prayers for the, ahem... 'class act' 🙏
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Post by elystokie on Sept 3, 2023 7:55:34 GMT
Thoughts and prayers for the, ahem... 'class act' 🙏 I think biancorossi's personal army of pollsters would beg to differ on this one.. |
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Post by eccythump on Sept 3, 2023 10:02:06 GMT
Imagine just for 1 moment he was PM here in the UK... He would put a stop to the boats in an instant... Absolutely he would, which in turn would ease some of the pressure on the NHS, schools and housing and jobs etc. We could do with having our own swamp drained. Corrupt Tories being sent to wormwood scrubs, corrupt Labourites being sent to broadmore, an end to telling little boys they can be little girls and confusing a generation in the name of tolerance (but really it's nothing but a sinister sexual depravity) He could then whip the police into shape, no kneeling in front of BLM racist rioters, no twerking at pride events and start coming down hard on peados, rapists and other sex offenders instead of arresting people for 'wrong think'. "Let's go Brandon" 😂 if any uk political leader came out with that as a manifesto they would sweep to power. Def get my vote. |
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 3, 2023 12:22:39 GMT
1-2% of the US population identify as transgender or non-binary. Many of whom will not be seeking sex changes. You think that this is a bigger problem than the 11.6% living in poverty? Poverty matters in the US, you live shorter, harder lives with poorer access to treat conditions. Those in poverty are simultaneously more likely to be obese and to be in a position where they have to ration out their insulin. Trump’s policies changed nothing about transgender %’s in the country. It did lead to more people in poverty though. He’s a piece of crap. He’s about as close as I can get to genuinely hating someone I’ve never met. Just a vile, draft dodging, anti-American piece of scum. You can combat perverts and poverty at the same time the two aren't mutually exclusive. Despite the rabid left trying to prevent Trump from doing his job at every turn he still did better than what most have done in recent years. Trumps ace and weather he wins in 2024 or not (I think he will) he's already woken a lot of the English speaking world up and pissed off a lot of wokeys in the process and that can only be a good thing. FJB If you want to promote your ideology then at lest get your facts right. One of the first things Trump did was to give billions in tax breaks to the rich and super-rich in tax handouts while the ordinary working man became worse off. I also think Biden is not fit enough at his age to do a new 4 year stint but he can partly get over that by appointing a different running mate than the one he currently has. Surely there's someone among the Democrats who can do that effectively while also appealing to the general voting public. Yes, Biden is failing on his mobility and his speech impediment is getting worse, but he's still functioning 'upstairs' and is yet to show signs that he's incapable of rational thought. I might remind you that one of the US's great presidents, Franklin D. Roosevelt, even though he was paralysed from the waist down, still had a brilliant mind and his disability had no affect on his superb wartime leadership. I'll bet Trump wouldn't dare mock FDR for his mobility problems. He'd soon get put in his place if he tried. OS. |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 3, 2023 13:00:59 GMT
Trump did more for the American working class than Biden, Obama or crooked Hillary ever could. You can combat perverts and poverty at the same time the two aren't mutually exclusive. Despite the rabid left trying to prevent Trump from doing his job at every turn he still did better than what most have done in recent years. Trumps ace and weather he wins in 2024 or not (I think he will) he's already woken a lot of the English speaking world up and pissed off a lot of wokeys in the process and that can only be a good thing. FJB If you want to promote your ideology then at lest get your facts right. One of the first things Trump did was to give billions in tax breaks to the rich and super-rich in tax handouts while the ordinary working man became worse off. I also think Biden is not fit enough at his age to do a new 4 year stint but he can partly get over that by appointing a different running mate than the one he currently has. Surely there's someone among the Democrats who can do that effectively while also appealing to the general voting public. Yes, Biden is failing on his mobility and his speech impediment is getting worse, but he's still functioning 'upstairs' and is yet to show signs that he's incapable of rational thought. I might remind you that one of the US's great presidents, Franklin D. Roosevelt, even though he was paralysed from the waist down, still had a brilliant mind and his disability had no affect on his superb wartime leadership. I'll bet Trump wouldn't dare mock FDR for his mobility problems. He'd soon get put in his place if he tried. OS. My facts are spot on mate. If you want to promote your ideology that's fair enough but it won't work with me. Biden is wank not only because of his severely dilapidated mental state but also because of the ideology itself which is deranged, evil and certainly on the wrong side of history. FJB |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 3, 2023 15:00:48 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Sept 3, 2023 15:18:11 GMT
😂 Is there anything Trump does legal? |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 3, 2023 16:28:05 GMT
Absolutely he would, which in turn would ease some of the pressure on the NHS, schools and housing and jobs etc. We could do with having our own swamp drained. Corrupt Tories being sent to wormwood scrubs, corrupt Labourites being sent to broadmore, an end to telling little boys they can be little girls and confusing a generation in the name of tolerance (but really it's nothing but a sinister sexual depravity) He could then whip the police into shape, no kneeling in front of BLM racist rioters, no twerking at pride events and start coming down hard on peados, rapists and other sex offenders instead of arresting people for 'wrong think'. "Let's go Brandon" 😂 if any uk political leader came out with that as a manifesto they would sweep to power. Def get my vote. Spot on mate. MAGA 🇺🇸 |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 3, 2023 17:02:26 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 3, 2023 17:03:16 GMT
if any uk political leader came out with that as a manifesto they would sweep to power. Def get my vote. Spot on mate. MAGA 🇺🇸  |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 3, 2023 17:08:53 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 3, 2023 18:51:15 GMT
Not long now..jail time.  |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 3, 2023 18:52:31 GMT
Not long now..jail time. Finally caught you have they 😉 😂 |
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Post by eccythump on Sept 4, 2023 8:01:09 GMT
if any uk political leader came out with that as a manifesto they would sweep to power. Def get my vote. Spot on mate. MAGA 🇺🇸 MEGA... Fuck the welsh and the Jocks... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 4, 2023 11:29:06 GMT
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 4, 2023 11:30:44 GMT
I doubt anyone will read it mate to be fair. Maybe a lefty or 2. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 4, 2023 11:32:21 GMT
I doubt anyone will read it mate to be fair. Maybe a lefty or 2. You should, you will learn something. |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 4, 2023 11:32:27 GMT
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