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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 3, 2024 22:42:03 GMT
Billy boys Clinton and Gates approve of this post š
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 4, 2024 0:19:32 GMT
He hasn't even lost yet but already banging on about being cheated. Horrendous despicable old clown. But he's funny apparently. If anyone says he's funny it's a red flag. Stay away from them.
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 4, 2024 0:24:29 GMT
He hasn't even lost yet but already banging on about being cheated. Horrendous despicable old clown. But he's funny apparently. If anyone says he's funny it's a red flag. Stay away from them. Clickbait. You're as bad as him.
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Post by musik on Nov 4, 2024 0:29:12 GMT
Said on TV tonight 50% of the people 18-29 in the US don't vote.
All in all 2/3 of all people there vote.
Pretty low then. If you don't vote, don't complain afterwards.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 4, 2024 0:58:51 GMT
He hasn't even lost yet but already banging on about being cheated. Horrendous despicable old clown. But he's funny apparently. If anyone says he's funny it's a red flag. Stay away from them. Clickbait. You're as bad as him. In what respect?
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 4, 2024 1:13:56 GMT
- if anyone finds him funny it's a red flag. Stay away - It wasn't meant as anything too personal though.
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Post by spitshaw on Nov 4, 2024 1:54:46 GMT
[ I thought this was a good, interesting post until I reached 'highly qualified candidate' (sorry! š) Would you describe Tulsi Gabbard as not subscribed to reality or indoctrinated? Can you admit that there are some very smart, sensible people who would vote differently to you? People which aren't necessarily part of the personality cult which I acknowledge is a thing and is weird and bad, but for a number of other reasons? I was mostly referring to the regular Joe's. But I guess your point would suggest there's also a third category of people who think he's a better choice than Harris and that's people who know how unfit and dangerous he is and dgaf about it because of money/power or the fact he will further their extreme agendas that they'd never get moved on with any other normal politician that actually cared about the country. Gabbard is one of those people, smart sure but she's in it for the grift. There's a reason why all the other smart GOP politicians have nothing to do with Trump anymore and why MAGA is now just a rag tag group of extreme nutters who will do and say anything Trump asks of them. And yes, she's clearly highly qualified. She was was a DA for 7 years, a Senator for 4 years and then Attorney General for another 6 - both in the biggest state in the US (California) and then she's just literally been Vice President (second in command) for 4 years. She couldn't be more qualified. If you think she's not then I don't know what to tell you
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 4, 2024 2:28:23 GMT
[ I thought this was a good, interesting post until I reached 'highly qualified candidate' (sorry! š) Would you describe Tulsi Gabbard as not subscribed to reality or indoctrinated? Can you admit that there are some very smart, sensible people who would vote differently to you? People which aren't necessarily part of the personality cult which I acknowledge is a thing and is weird and bad, but for a number of other reasons? I was mostly referring to the regular Joe's. But I guess your point would suggest there's also a third category of people who think he's a better choice than Harris and that's people who know how unfit and dangerous he is and dgaf about it because of money/power or the fact he will further their extreme agendas that they'd never get moved on with any other normal politician that actually cared about the country. Gabbard is one of those people, smart sure but she's in it for the grift. There's a reason why all the other smart GOP politicians have nothing to do with Trump anymore and why MAGA is now just a rag tag group of extreme nutters who will do and say anything Trump asks of them. And yes, she's clearly highly qualified. She was was a DA for 7 years, a Senator for 4 years and then Attorney General for another 6 - both in the biggest state in the US (California) and then she's just literally been Vice President (second in command) for 4 years. She couldn't be more qualified. If you think she's not then I don't know what to tell you That's one of the things. There's conservatives who've worked in the republican party all their lives who feel so disenfranchised by all this they've walked away. It says a lot about where this could be heading. But mostly it speaks volumes about their candidate.
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Post by frasier37 on Nov 4, 2024 6:46:08 GMT
Said on TV tonight 50% of the people 18-29 in the US don't vote. All in all 2/3 of all people there vote. Pretty low then. If you don't vote, don't complain afterwards. š¤ Seems 50% have enough brains to realise that their vote is pointless
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 4, 2024 7:56:50 GMT
[ I thought this was a good, interesting post until I reached 'highly qualified candidate' (sorry! š) Would you describe Tulsi Gabbard as not subscribed to reality or indoctrinated? Can you admit that there are some very smart, sensible people who would vote differently to you? People which aren't necessarily part of the personality cult which I acknowledge is a thing and is weird and bad, but for a number of other reasons? I was mostly referring to the regular Joe's. But I guess your point would suggest there's also a third category of people who think he's a better choice than Harris and that's people who know how unfit and dangerous he is and dgaf about it because of money/power or the fact he will further their extreme agendas that they'd never get moved on with any other normal politician that actually cared about the country. Gabbard is one of those people, smart sure but she's in it for the grift. There's a reason why all the other smart GOP politicians have nothing to do with Trump anymore and why MAGA is now just a rag tag group of extreme nutters who will do and say anything Trump asks of them. And yes, she's clearly highly qualified. She was was a DA for 7 years, a Senator for 4 years and then Attorney General for another 6 - both in the biggest state in the US (California) and then she's just literally been Vice President (second in command) for 4 years. She couldn't be more qualified. If you think she's not then I don't know what to tell you It's so funny to me that your little brain is literally incapable of contemplating the idea that someone might not be stupid or evil and prefer Trump as a lesser of two bad choices. And regarding your highly qualified candidate, well, if you say so... Riding Willie Brown up the California political ladder, an awful run in the presidential primary, DEI pick by Biden and then terribly unpopular VP. I must be imagining her campaign hiding her away as much as possible. Media companies are also definitely not cutting up her footage to prevent her sounding clueless. It would be a bittersweet victory for women and feminism if she gets in. Textbook example of failing upwards and every serious person of the left knows it and is just pretending otherwise because they want to win
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 4, 2024 8:53:12 GMT
Harris will win comfortably.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 4, 2024 8:56:11 GMT
I was mostly referring to the regular Joe's. But I guess your point would suggest there's also a third category of people who think he's a better choice than Harris and that's people who know how unfit and dangerous he is and dgaf about it because of money/power or the fact he will further their extreme agendas that they'd never get moved on with any other normal politician that actually cared about the country. Gabbard is one of those people, smart sure but she's in it for the grift. There's a reason why all the other smart GOP politicians have nothing to do with Trump anymore and why MAGA is now just a rag tag group of extreme nutters who will do and say anything Trump asks of them. And yes, she's clearly highly qualified. She was was a DA for 7 years, a Senator for 4 years and then Attorney General for another 6 - both in the biggest state in the US (California) and then she's just literally been Vice President (second in command) for 4 years. She couldn't be more qualified. If you think she's not then I don't know what to tell you It's so funny to me that your little brain is literally incapable of contemplating the idea that someone might not be stupid or evil and prefer Trump as a lesser of two bad choices. And regarding your highly qualified candidate, well, if you say so... Riding Willie Brown up the California political ladder, an awful run in the presidential primary, DEI pick by Biden and then terribly unpopular VP. I must be imagining her campaign hiding her away as much as possible. Media companies are also definitely not cutting up her footage to prevent her sounding clueless. It would be a bittersweet victory for women and feminism if she gets in. Textbook example of failing upwards and every serious person of the left knows it and is just pretending otherwise because they want to win Biden pulled out too late to offer a Dem primary so she was the nominee by default. she may have been a good choice for VP at the time but i dont believe that decision was made with a view to her running in 8 years time
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 4, 2024 9:11:47 GMT
Posting it just for the community note š¤£š¤£ the height of pedantry.
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Post by Foster on Nov 4, 2024 9:46:13 GMT
Posting it just for the community note š¤£š¤£ the height of pedantry. TBH, it was the first and only thing of interest that I thought about when I read the original tweet.
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Post by milton58 on Nov 4, 2024 11:06:00 GMT
Month a go harris was favourite with bet365....looked today trump is odds on favourite to win now according to them.
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Post by superjw on Nov 4, 2024 12:40:57 GMT
Slightly off topic of the polling, but Iāve come across quite a lot of social media posts, indicating a focus on abortion rights from Harris if she gets in. Now Iām admittedly not totally clued up on the specifics but I thought that when Roe V Wade got overturned the Supreme Court gave the decision making to the states - so what exactly is a Harris government going to do here? That the Biden government hasnāt had the chance to do already? Iām assuming there is no power to make any changes here so I donāt know how it can be a topic on the table?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 4, 2024 12:52:26 GMT
Month a go harris was favourite with bet365....looked today trump is odds on favourite to win now according to them. I'd have thought the bookies are a better barometer than the echo chambers of social media, but this does seem decidedly close.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 4, 2024 12:58:15 GMT
Slightly off topic of the polling, but Iāve come across quite a lot of social media posts, indicating a focus on abortion rights from Harris if she gets in. Now Iām admittedly not totally clued up on the specifics but I thought that when Roe V Wade got overturned the Supreme Court gave the decision making to the states - so what exactly is a Harris government going to do here? That the Biden government hasnāt had the chance to do already? Iām assuming there is no power to make any changes here so I donāt know how it can be a topic on the table? Roe Wade apparently wasn't a very strong precedent just legally speaking. Maybe she'll try to introduce something federal. It seems weird that you can't get any abortions in some states and in others you can do it late term for no reason. Both those situations seem wrong to me
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Post by spitshaw on Nov 4, 2024 16:16:02 GMT
I was mostly referring to the regular Joe's. But I guess your point would suggest there's also a third category of people who think he's a better choice than Harris and that's people who know how unfit and dangerous he is and dgaf about it because of money/power or the fact he will further their extreme agendas that they'd never get moved on with any other normal politician that actually cared about the country. Gabbard is one of those people, smart sure but she's in it for the grift. There's a reason why all the other smart GOP politicians have nothing to do with Trump anymore and why MAGA is now just a rag tag group of extreme nutters who will do and say anything Trump asks of them. And yes, she's clearly highly qualified. She was was a DA for 7 years, a Senator for 4 years and then Attorney General for another 6 - both in the biggest state in the US (California) and then she's just literally been Vice President (second in command) for 4 years. She couldn't be more qualified. If you think she's not then I don't know what to tell you It's so funny to me that your little brain is literally incapable of contemplating the idea that someone might not be stupid or evil and prefer Trump as a lesser of two bad choices. And regarding your highly qualified candidate, well, if you say so... Riding Willie Brown up the California political ladder, an awful run in the presidential primary, DEI pick by Biden and then terribly unpopular VP. I must be imagining her campaign hiding her away as much as possible. Media companies are also definitely not cutting up her footage to prevent her sounding clueless. It would be a bittersweet victory for women and feminism if she gets in. Textbook example of failing upwards and every serious person of the left knows it and is just pretending otherwise because they want to win See this is exactly what I'm talking about and it only took two comments for it to come out of you - she's factually supremely qualified and there's no doubt about it but you sit here regurgitating stupid misogynistic and racist right wing talking points like "dUhH ShE SlEpt Up ThE LaDdEr" and "dUhHh ShE's A DeI hIrE". The relationship with Willie Brown was in 1994, nine years before she became DA. And sure being a person of colour and a woman helped her get the VP slot - because President's ALWAYS pick VPs who will help them with specific voting blocs, thats just how it's done. Trump chose Pence, an old white christian man specifically to shore up the evangelicals and Obama chose Biden because he was an old and respected white dude that would court the moderate white senior vote. But I guarantee you've never once whined about those choices - I wonder why that is? The fact is she still got chosen over other women of colour because she was the most QUALIFIED. And now it's "DuH tHe MeDiA aRe CoVeRiNg HeR Up To MaKe HeR lOoK BeTtEr". So that's misogynism, racism and conspiracies all in one single post. See what I mean about being indoctrinated into the right wing bullshit.
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Post by spitshaw on Nov 4, 2024 16:24:23 GMT
Slightly off topic of the polling, but Iāve come across quite a lot of social media posts, indicating a focus on abortion rights from Harris if she gets in. Now Iām admittedly not totally clued up on the specifics but I thought that when Roe V Wade got overturned the Supreme Court gave the decision making to the states - so what exactly is a Harris government going to do here? That the Biden government hasnāt had the chance to do already? Iām assuming there is no power to make any changes here so I donāt know how it can be a topic on the table? The only way they can codify it back into law is by eliminating the filibuster to lower the voting threshold in Congress. But they can only do that if they win both the House and the Senate (which doesn't look possible) and even then it would likely face legal challenges which would put it right back to the Supreme Court. The realistic hope is that you vote the Democrats to stop things actually getting worse - like Trump invoking the Comstock Act to enact a federal country wide abortion ban or even Trump clamping down on fertility treatments/contraception which is what The Heritage Foundation/Project 2025 want to do.
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Post by Northy on Nov 4, 2024 16:49:01 GMT
Posting it just for the community note š¤£š¤£ the height of pedantry. But would you?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 4, 2024 17:52:05 GMT
Posting it just for the community note š¤£š¤£ the height of pedantry. But would you? Once you've been with a President everything else is probably a disappointment. It's a wonder their aren't world leader groupies like you used to get following the 70s rock bands. I guess they might make a comeback now Epstein has gone and Diddy looks shut down.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 4, 2024 18:10:06 GMT
Posting it just for the community note š¤£š¤£ the height of pedantry. But would you? Most definitely š
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 4, 2024 18:48:28 GMT
Slightly off topic of the polling, but Iāve come across quite a lot of social media posts, indicating a focus on abortion rights from Harris if she gets in. Now Iām admittedly not totally clued up on the specifics but I thought that when Roe V Wade got overturned the Supreme Court gave the decision making to the states - so what exactly is a Harris government going to do here? That the Biden government hasnāt had the chance to do already? Iām assuming there is no power to make any changes here so I donāt know how it can be a topic on the table? The only way they can codify it back into law is by eliminating the filibuster to lower the voting threshold in Congress. But they can only do that if they win both the House and the Senate (which doesn't look possible) and even then it would likely face legal challenges which would put it right back to the Supreme Court. The realistic hope is that you vote the Democrats to stop things actually getting worse - like Trump invoking the Comstock Act to enact a federal country wide abortion ban or even Trump clamping down on fertility treatments/contraception which is what The Heritage Foundation/Project 2025 want to do. Yeah as I understand it federal law and executive pressure can affect women's rights. Federal law could codify abortion rights, or the president could use executive actions to punish states that don't do what they want. Republicans want to strip people of their rights, Democrats want to protect them. It's up for voters to decide which they prefer. The whacky thing being if they pick republicans this time it's hard to see how voters will ever again be allowed to change their choice. Unlike if democracy wins. And if Republicans get power, how hard will they push? Some of them have been talking about banning women from travelling between states for healthcare, or things like household voting where men get to decide the vote. People will say it's scaremongering, but they said exactly the same thing about abortion. I was straight up told, repeatedly, that "republicans won't overthrow roe Vs wade, that's democrat lies and you're just scaremongering". Or that Trump wouldn't try to overthrow the election or cage children. Do I believe the confident people who were wrong about reality. Or do I watch what republicans say and do to work out what will happen?
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 4, 2024 18:54:18 GMT
Tomorrowās going to be a very interesting day.
When will the results be announced?
I have a feeling that whoever wins thereāll be fireworks and claims of dirty tricks.
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Post by lordb on Nov 4, 2024 18:55:15 GMT
Tomorrowās going to be a very interesting day. When will the results be announced? Several days before all the key results come in
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 4, 2024 18:56:57 GMT
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 4, 2024 19:00:45 GMT
It's so funny to me that your little brain is literally incapable of contemplating the idea that someone might not be stupid or evil and prefer Trump as a lesser of two bad choices. And regarding your highly qualified candidate, well, if you say so... Riding Willie Brown up the California political ladder, an awful run in the presidential primary, DEI pick by Biden and then terribly unpopular VP. I must be imagining her campaign hiding her away as much as possible. Media companies are also definitely not cutting up her footage to prevent her sounding clueless. It would be a bittersweet victory for women and feminism if she gets in. Textbook example of failing upwards and every serious person of the left knows it and is just pretending otherwise because they want to win See this is exactly what I'm talking about and it only took two comments for it to come out of you - she's factually supremely qualified and there's no doubt about it but you sit here regurgitating stupid misogynistic and racist right wing talking points like "dUhH ShE SlEpt Up ThE LaDdEr" and "dUhHh ShE's A DeI hIrE". The relationship with Willie Brown was in 1994, nine years before she became DA. And sure being a person of colour and a woman helped her get the VP slot - because President's ALWAYS pick VPs who will help them with specific voting blocs, thats just how it's done. Trump chose Pence, an old white christian man specifically to shore up the evangelicals and Obama chose Biden because he was an old and respected white dude that would court the moderate white senior vote. But I guarantee you've never once whined about those choices - I wonder why that is? The fact is she still got chosen over other women of colour because she was the most QUALIFIED. And now it's "DuH tHe MeDiA aRe CoVeRiNg HeR Up To MaKe HeR lOoK BeTtEr". So that's misogynism, racism and conspiracies all in one single post. See what I mean about being indoctrinated into the right wing bullshit. I'm wondering why you decided to do those messed up capital letters. Did you maybe want to add serial killer to your long list of accusations? To respond to just one of your false claims...I literally watched the original footage of 60 minutes and the tv release which was heavily edited. Maybe I'm just haunted by the evil spirits of Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro and should check myself into some kind of institution to treat this terrible affliction!
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 4, 2024 19:00:54 GMT
Tomorrowās going to be a very interesting day. When will the results be announced? Several days before all the key results come in I think theyāll all be in by mid morning Wednesday But then will come the law suits etc So I expect nothing certain till at least weekend
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 4, 2024 19:03:53 GMT
Tomorrowās going to be a very interesting day. When will the results be announced? I have a feeling that whoever wins thereāll be fireworks and claims of dirty tricks. It depends on how close it is. Here's a description. It's pretty likely the polls in key states will be off but we just don't know which way or how much. If Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan polls are off by say 5% either way then I think the results will be called Tuesday UK time. If it's as close as before in all the states then it could take days. If it's a Harris win but it's close, we won't know who will get in power until potentially January because the republicans have a strategy planned to commit a coup and install Trump anyway. If Trump wins then it's over.
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