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Post by georgeberrysafro on Aug 23, 2024 16:23:07 GMT
Problem is I could genuinely see him standing again in 4 years even if he loses in November. The Republican party showed zero backbone in their selection of Trump. It's like they are almost intimidated by him/his supporters. Americans hate losers - if he doesn't win in November the Republicans will drop him like a stone. In fact they will be the ones pushing for him to be jailed in order to keep him out of the game. The Republicans will then have the same problem as the Tories - go populatist right wing or challenge the Democrats on the centre ground. Not sure. He lost the house in the 2018 midterms, the election in 2020, the 2020 Senate race, most of those he endoresed in the 2022 midterms lost, the Trump Organization Fraud case, the E. Jean Carroll lawsuits, the New York state fraud lawsuit, on top of all the failed businesses he has and other upcoming law suits. He's a serial loser and is STILL the main pick for this election. They've had numerous chances to get rid and oust him out yet they all crumble when it matters and let him walk all over them. I admit a few republicans have managed to move away from the MAGA cult but the rest are absolute snowflakes. If he loses in November to a black women it might trigger something special but it'll be the repeat of the lies of a rigged stolen election and he'll run again if he's still alive next time round. I agree that the Republican party is a mess though and they'll have a lot of work to do after Trump.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 24, 2024 9:30:04 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 27, 2024 20:31:21 GMT
Bloody hell, I can't believe how good AI is getting ... ðŸ¤
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Post by elystokie on Aug 27, 2024 20:38:07 GMT
Bloody hell, I can't believe how good AI is getting ... 🤠I can't believe I watched nearly 2 minutes of that shit 🤦 I'd love to know how people get taken in by this fruit loop 🤔
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 27, 2024 20:46:40 GMT
Bloody hell, I can't believe how good AI is getting ... 🤠I can't believe I watched nearly 2 minutes of that shit 🤦 I'd love to know how people get taken in by this fruit loop 🤔 It's a fuckin cult and the sad thing is, is that people who can't afford to, will be sending him their money. He keeps telling everybody how rich he is, whilst at the same time, begging people to send him money. How can such a grifter pass the fit and proper person test to run the most powerful nation on earth? He repeatedly demonstrates that he is wide open to being bought by the highest bidder. It is truly frightening.
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Post by wannabee on Aug 27, 2024 21:43:22 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 27, 2024 21:47:54 GMT
He's finished. Thank goodness.
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Post by Gods on Aug 27, 2024 22:47:51 GMT
Jeez, Democrat sympathisers really need to stop doing this, unless they have a death wish and secretly want to see the Donald back in the White House
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 28, 2024 6:53:51 GMT
Americans hate losers - if he doesn't win in November the Republicans will drop him like a stone. In fact they will be the ones pushing for him to be jailed in order to keep him out of the game. The Republicans will then have the same problem as the Tories - go populatist right wing or challenge the Democrats on the centre ground. Not sure. He lost the house in the 2018 midterms, the election in 2020, the 2020 Senate race, most of those he endoresed in the 2022 midterms lost, the Trump Organization Fraud case, the E. Jean Carroll lawsuits, the New York state fraud lawsuit, on top of all the failed businesses he has and other upcoming law suits. He's a serial loser and is STILL the main pick for this election. They've had numerous chances to get rid and oust him out yet they all crumble when it matters and let him walk all over them. I admit a few republicans have managed to move away from the MAGA cult but the rest are absolute snowflakes. If he loses in November to a black women it might trigger something special but it'll be the repeat of the lies of a rigged stolen election and he'll run again if he's still alive next time round. I agree that the Republican party is a mess though and they'll have a lot of work to do after Trump. I don't think Trump is bothered about how the Repubicans do in elections and will blame others for those failures. He's only bothered about himself winning the Presedential election and at the moment enough people believe the guff about him being cheated to make some Republicans turn a blind eye. If he loses again his excuses are going to sound a bit thin and only the die hards will stick with him as the court cases come in. I honestly believe the Republicans are going to turn against him big time if he loses this one - there is already a large numbber of moderate Republians who want him gone and a bunch of right wing opportunists waiting to inherit his vote. I think there will be a feeding frenzy.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 28, 2024 8:02:31 GMT
Trump would sell the USA to China if an offer that filled his pockets came in.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Aug 28, 2024 9:59:28 GMT
Trump would sell the USA to China if an offer that filled his pockets came in. Think he's the only president that didn't become richer as a result of time in office though
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Post by Mason_Stokie on Aug 28, 2024 13:05:47 GMT
I can't believe I watched nearly 2 minutes of that shit 🤦 I'd love to know how people get taken in by this fruit loop 🤔 It's a fuckin cult and the sad thing is, is that people who can't afford to, will be sending him their money. He keeps telling everybody how rich he is, whilst at the same time, begging people to send him money. How can such a grifter pass the fit and proper person test to run the most powerful nation on earth? He repeatedly demonstrates that he is wide open to being bought by the highest bidder. It is truly frightening. Would be surprising if his supporters have any money left after he convinced them to invest in 'Trump Media'... which has tanked! finance.yahoo.com/quote/DJT/
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Aug 28, 2024 13:28:53 GMT
Trump would sell the USA to China if an offer that filled his pockets came in. Think he's the only president that didn't become richer as a result of time in office though Trump's wealth is based upon hospitality and commercial property, and those two sectors were hit considerably by Covid, so I would not read any altruism from his losses.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 28, 2024 13:30:28 GMT
Trump would sell the USA to China if an offer that filled his pockets came in. Think he's the only president that didn't become richer as a result of time in office though Didn't take a salary either. Although the counter claim is he profited off his real estate business so was earning money. Not sure what he's supposed to do about that though really as its his business which carries on whilst he was in office anyway. Either way I suppose 400k a year is pocket change to him so I've mostly ignored the benevolence of it all.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 29, 2024 10:27:25 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 29, 2024 12:19:21 GMT
Made me chuckle Robbie. She has no sense of humour. M.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Aug 29, 2024 13:24:49 GMT
Made me chuckle Robbie. She has no sense of humour. M. She has no sense of anything to be fair.
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Post by gawa on Aug 29, 2024 13:29:37 GMT
I can't believe I watched nearly 2 minutes of that shit 🤦 I'd love to know how people get taken in by this fruit loop 🤔 It's a fuckin cult and the sad thing is, is that people who can't afford to, will be sending him their money. He keeps telling everybody how rich he is, whilst at the same time, begging people to send him money. How can such a grifter pass the fit and proper person test to run the most powerful nation on earth? He repeatedly demonstrates that he is wide open to being bought by the highest bidder. It is truly frightening. To be fair they're hardly spoilt for choice. Genocide Joe's right hand woman and war monger. Or Donald Trump. The beauty of the 2 party "vote for what you dislike the least" system.
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Post by wannabee on Sept 1, 2024 18:33:36 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 2, 2024 15:05:55 GMT
He's having a shocker, be surprised if the wheels aren't off completely before November Not much sign of scarring on that ear... Just saying 🤷
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 2, 2024 15:21:01 GMT
He's having a shocker, be surprised if the wheels aren't off completely before November I don't think Trump voters care. And the right wing media machine has persuaded so many people it's not a big deal that he tried to overthrow democracy, is a criminal, completely failed at legitimate business etc. I don't see how it matters. People who support Trump support a guy who intentionally committed a mass child abuse campaign, tried to overthrow democracy, packed the courts with extremists who strip away basic human rights, shifted money and power wherever possible to the richest, who spat on veterans, whose campaign worked with russian intelligence and who now supports Putin brutally conquering a democracy. Will they change their mind because he says some more stuff out loud?
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Post by elystokie on Sept 2, 2024 15:43:11 GMT
He's having a shocker, be surprised if the wheels aren't off completely before November I don't think Trump voters care. And the right wing media machine has persuaded so many people it's not a big deal that he tried to overthrow democracy, is a criminal, completely failed at legitimate business etc. I don't see how it matters. People who support Trump support a guy who intentionally committed a mass child abuse campaign, tried to overthrow democracy, packed the courts with extremists who strip away basic human rights, shifted money and power wherever possible to the richest, who spat on veterans, whose campaign worked with russian intelligence and who now supports Putin brutally conquering a democracy. Will they change their mind because he says some more stuff out loud? What amazes me is very few people seem to be willing to defend him, so I'm struggling to understand where the support comes from. Obviously you live there and I don't, I just read comments on t'interweb
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 2, 2024 15:45:52 GMT
I don't think Trump voters care. And the right wing media machine has persuaded so many people it's not a big deal that he tried to overthrow democracy, is a criminal, completely failed at legitimate business etc. I don't see how it matters. People who support Trump support a guy who intentionally committed a mass child abuse campaign, tried to overthrow democracy, packed the courts with extremists who strip away basic human rights, shifted money and power wherever possible to the richest, who spat on veterans, whose campaign worked with russian intelligence and who now supports Putin brutally conquering a democracy. Will they change their mind because he says some more stuff out loud? What amazes me is very few people seem to be willing to defend him, so I'm struggling to understand where the support comes from. Obviously you live there and I don't, I just read comments on t'interweb It seems his supporters on here have decided to limit themselves to apologising for Putin.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 3, 2024 12:00:17 GMT
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 3, 2024 12:36:44 GMT
He's having a shocker, be surprised if the wheels aren't off completely before November I don't think Trump voters care. And the right wing media machine has persuaded so many people it's not a big deal that he tried to overthrow democracy, is a criminal, completely failed at legitimate business etc. I don't see how it matters. People who support Trump support a guy who intentionally committed a mass child abuse campaign, tried to overthrow democracy, packed the courts with extremists who strip away basic human rights, shifted money and power wherever possible to the richest, who spat on veterans, whose campaign worked with russian intelligence and who now supports Putin brutally conquering a democracy. Will they change their mind because he says some more stuff out loud? Right wing media machine? Fox News and the daily wire? 😂 surely you have to admit that the left has far more power in terms of media control. I think you should distinguish between Trump lovers and Trump voters. He does have a bit of a cult but also lots of his voters are just conservatives that would rather not vote for a dem. He did not pack the supreme Court with extremists? He didn't try to overthrow democracy
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 3, 2024 14:26:17 GMT
Right wing media machine? Fox News and the daily wire? 😂 surely you have to admit that the left has far more power in terms of media control. I think you should distinguish between Trump lovers and Trump voters. He does have a bit of a cult but also lots of his voters are just conservatives that would rather not vote for a dem. He did not pack the supreme Court with extremists? He didn't try to overthrow democracy There are many points but I think the most important is where he did try to overthrow democracy. He tried to install fake electors, he pressured a governor to throw out the results and invent fake votes for him and he ran a campaign of lies about the rigour of the election. US elections are generally stacked in republicans' favour by the rules as they are. Trump lost and has run a campaign of lies to undermine trust in elections. Faith in the system and the peaceful transfer of power are absolutely core to democracy, and Trump has tried to rip it up. He supports ending democracy and anyone who votes for trump is voting in support of that.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 3, 2024 14:46:42 GMT
Right wing media machine? Fox News and the daily wire? 😂 surely you have to admit that the left has far more power in terms of media control. I think you should distinguish between Trump lovers and Trump voters. He does have a bit of a cult but also lots of his voters are just conservatives that would rather not vote for a dem. He did not pack the supreme Court with extremists? He didn't try to overthrow democracy There are many points but I think the most important is where he did try to overthrow democracy. He tried to install fake electors, he pressured a governor to throw out the results and invent fake votes for him and he ran a campaign of lies about the rigour of the election. US elections are generally stacked in republicans' favour by the rules as they are. Trump lost and has run a campaign of lies to undermine trust in elections. Faith in the system and the peaceful transfer of power are absolutely core to democracy, and Trump has tried to rip it up. He supports ending democracy and anyone who votes for trump is voting in support of that. He was the president and he is now not the president. January 6 was terrible but it was not an attempt to overthrow a government. the election being stolen line quickly became delusional but I think the Biden admin going after Trump with all these stupid legal cases is just as banana republic. You'll end up like Brazil where whoever loses gets arrested or goes into exile for a few years. It's funny how Trump is the greatest threat to the country yet clearly dems wanted him to be the nominee so they can't have been very scared of him. Without Trump to hate, they don't have much of a campaign
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 3, 2024 14:55:55 GMT
There are many points but I think the most important is where he did try to overthrow democracy. He tried to install fake electors, he pressured a governor to throw out the results and invent fake votes for him and he ran a campaign of lies about the rigour of the election. US elections are generally stacked in republicans' favour by the rules as they are. Trump lost and has run a campaign of lies to undermine trust in elections. Faith in the system and the peaceful transfer of power are absolutely core to democracy, and Trump has tried to rip it up. He supports ending democracy and anyone who votes for trump is voting in support of that. He was the president and he is now not the president. January 6 was terrible but it was not an attempt to overthrow a government. the election being stolen line quickly became delusional but I think the Biden admin going after Trump with all these stupid legal cases is just as banana republic. You'll end up like Brazil where whoever loses gets arrested or goes into exile for a few years. It's funny how Trump is the greatest threat to the country yet clearly dems wanted him to be the nominee so they can't have been very scared of him. Without Trump to hate, they don't have much of a campaign Yeah it was. They turned up with their fists to overthrow America 😆 🤣
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 3, 2024 15:54:22 GMT
There are many points but I think the most important is where he did try to overthrow democracy. He tried to install fake electors, he pressured a governor to throw out the results and invent fake votes for him and he ran a campaign of lies about the rigour of the election. US elections are generally stacked in republicans' favour by the rules as they are. Trump lost and has run a campaign of lies to undermine trust in elections. Faith in the system and the peaceful transfer of power are absolutely core to democracy, and Trump has tried to rip it up. He supports ending democracy and anyone who votes for trump is voting in support of that. He was the president and he is now not the president. January 6 was terrible but it was not an attempt to overthrow a government. the election being stolen line quickly became delusional but I think the Biden admin going after Trump with all these stupid legal cases is just as banana republic. You'll end up like Brazil where whoever loses gets arrested or goes into exile for a few years. It's funny how Trump is the greatest threat to the country yet clearly dems wanted him to be the nominee so they can't have been very scared of him. Without Trump to hate, they don't have much of a campaign It was a shit attempt to overthrow the government but it was still an attempt to overthrow the government. Trump uses dog whistle phrases that he knows his hardcore supporters will pick up on while maintaining a distance from taking responsibility from the consequences of his supporters actions. The people who turned up to the White House believed they were doing Trump's bidding in claiming the election for him and at one point even Trump thought it might happen and tried to get himself in with the mob. When it failed he distanced himself from their actions and many of those arrested realised they had been used and let down by him. After the rioting was quashed Trump continued to work behind the scenes to claim an election he lost. The man does not believe in democracy - he believes in the acquisition of power at any cost.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 3, 2024 16:54:48 GMT
He was the president and he is now not the president. January 6 was terrible but it was not an attempt to overthrow a government. the election being stolen line quickly became delusional but I think the Biden admin going after Trump with all these stupid legal cases is just as banana republic. You'll end up like Brazil where whoever loses gets arrested or goes into exile for a few years. It's funny how Trump is the greatest threat to the country yet clearly dems wanted him to be the nominee so they can't have been very scared of him. Without Trump to hate, they don't have much of a campaign It was a shit attempt to overthrow the government but it was still an attempt to overthrow the government. Trump uses dog whistle phrases that he knows his hardcore supporters will pick up on while maintaining a distance from taking responsibility from the consequences of his supporters actions. The people who turned up to the White House believed they were doing Trump's bidding in claiming the election for him and at one point even Trump thought it might happen and tried to get himself in with the mob. When it failed he distanced himself from their actions and many of those arrested realised they had been used and let down by him. After the rioting was quashed Trump continued to work behind the scenes to claim an election he lost. The man does not believe in democracy - he believes in the acquisition of power at any cost. I think you're mostly right in that assessment. However I don't see this end of democracy argument that people talk about if he gets back in. He didn't end democracy in his 2016 to 2020 term. And I don't see the route through to achieving anything else in their political system other than the 2 party system that they currently have. Not that I like their political system anyway because the whole thing is corrupt to high heaven with all this fund raising and shyte. But I guess you'll let me know why I'm talking shit again 😆
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