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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 23, 2017 16:16:58 GMT
How can they have been deceived when he told them he wasn't going to play himself, that my friend is called honesty, deception is the act of lying, it's what the judge described Pulis of doing in a court of law. If you buy season ticket at the start of the season surely you expect players in the clubs employ to at least be available for selection. The fact that he decided only to observe this very basic courtesy in certain circumstances is a type of deception? No it's not, not to me anyway would you feel deceived and would you feel the need for refund of 1/25 of your season ticket to Stoke if Shaq decided he wanted away and refused to play. Don't you go to stoke to watch the whole team play and not 1 individual player, isn't it the club, strip, badge etc etc that you support. He went on strike, how do you feel about a person right to strike, should anybody from any walk of life what ever it may be have that most basic of rights if they felt so wronged by their employer. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 23, 2017 16:19:40 GMT
If you buy season ticket at the start of the season surely you expect players in the clubs employ to at least be available for selection. The fact that he decided only to observe this very basic courtesy in certain circumstances is a type of deception? No it's not, not to me anyway would you feel deceived and would you feel the need for refund of 1/25 of your season ticket to Stoke if Shaq decided he wanted away and refused to play. Don't you go to stoke to watch the whole team play and not 1 individual player, isn't it the club, strip, badge etc etc that you support. He went on strike, how do you feel about a person right to strike, should anybody from any walk of life what ever it may be have that most basic of rights if they felt so wronged by their employer. Do you have the faintest idea how difficult it is to strike in this country? He was not on strike. Have you found the bit where I defended Pulis yet BTW save? I'm waiting....... |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 23, 2017 16:25:30 GMT
No it's not, not to me anyway would you feel deceived and would you feel the need for refund of 1/25 of your season ticket to Stoke if Shaq decided he wanted away and refused to play. Don't you go to stoke to watch the whole team play and not 1 individual player, isn't it the club, strip, badge etc etc that you support. He went on strike, how do you feel about a person right to strike, should anybody from any walk of life what ever it may be have that most basic of rights if they felt so wronged by their employer. Do you have the faintest idea how difficult it is to strike in this country? He was not on strike. Have you found the bit where I defended Pulis yet BTW save? I'm wasting....... I'm not going to be rude to you and its obviously not just me but its your overall tone every time Pulis comes up. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 23, 2017 16:28:29 GMT
Do you have the faintest idea how difficult it is to strike in this country? He was not on strike. Have you found the bit where I defended Pulis yet BTW save? I'm wasting....... I'm not going to be rude to you and its obviously not just me but its your overall tone every time Pulis comes up. So you were bullshitting then and I haven't actually defended Pulis one iota on this thread. Glad we got that sorted. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 23, 2017 16:35:05 GMT
I'm not going to be rude to you and its obviously not just me but its your overall tone every time Pulis comes up. So you were bullshitting then and I haven't actually defended Pulis one iota on this thread. Glad we got that sorted.
I don't particularly care what he's done in the past to a club I don't care for but people's eagerness to crucify Tone doesn't diminish the fact that what he did was disgraceful, the single biggest kick in the knackers you can give to supporters and the fault for it lies entirely at his door.
How do you know what went on between Berahino, Peace and Pulis, do you know something nobody else does
people's eagerness to crucify Tone – That sounds to me like you’re defending him
the fault for it lies entirely at his door – Again how do you know for a fact that it’s entirely Berahino’s fault and not a combination.
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 16:46:28 GMT
Maybe we had some defenders better than Martiensson. We certainly also had some worse than him - and some of them got constantly selected to play ahead of him. I thought the limited game time for Martiensson made no sense at the time and I have seen nothing since to change my opinion. In some of his very few appearances he looked very good indeed. And he was probably our best player in that friendly against Man Utd where Freezer scored a goal via the back of Barthez's head. I think some people might be missing the sarcasm in my posts. Everyone who has responded so far by the look of it... Poe's Law |
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 16:49:13 GMT
The original person who compared Pulis's actions with Berahino's was blackpoolred. He's the one who thinks a multimillion pound fraud is morally equivalent to a young lad behaving like a tit.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 23, 2017 16:53:37 GMT
So you were bullshitting then and I haven't actually defended Pulis one iota on this thread. Glad we got that sorted.
I don't particularly care what he's done in the past to a club I don't care for but people's eagerness to crucify Tone doesn't diminish the fact that what he did was disgraceful, the single biggest kick in the knackers you can give to supporters and the fault for it lies entirely at his door.
How do you know what went on between Berahino, Peace and Pulis, do you know something nobody else does
people's eagerness to crucify Tone – That sounds to me like you’re defending him
the fault for it lies entirely at his door – Again how do you know for a fact that it’s entirely Berahino’s fault and not a combination.
Very weak. Thanks for confirming I haven't defended Pulis once on this thread. Appreciated mucka. |
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 18:18:15 GMT
For once, I think momo may be 100 percent right. That's a new record, beating his previous personal best of 50 percent by 50 percent.
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 18:21:43 GMT
Pulis didn't act foolishly. He committed fraud. Isn't refusing to play whilst still collecting your wage a type of fraud? Oh wait. I've just seen this. Minus 40 percent. An improvement, but still not right. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 23, 2017 18:29:45 GMT
Isn't refusing to play whilst still collecting your wage a type of fraud? Oh wait. I've just seen this. Minus 40 percent. An improvement, but still not right. I'm excited how far this could go. Justifying other people's wrongdoings by comparing them with Pulis. There could be a show in this. Working title "The C(ap) Factor". Next week President Assad puts up his impressive roll of honour against Tony's heinous act of kicking a bottle of water when Carl Hoefkens gave the ball away! Stalin's role in the Great Purge or Tone playing Ric on the wing against Bolton?  |
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 18:41:42 GMT
I never made the comparison. Neither did you. As I said previously, it was blackpoolred who argued that a major fraud is no different to a young man talking shit.
But I like that idea. The Pulis Scale.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 23, 2017 18:46:58 GMT
Oh wait. I've just seen this. Minus 40 percent. An improvement, but still not right. I'm excited how far this could go. Justifying other people's wrongdoings by comparing them with Pulis. There could be a show in this. Working title "The C(ap) Factor". Next week President Assad puts up his impressive roll of honour against Tony's heinous act of kicking a bottle of water when Carl Hoefkens gave the ball away! Stalin's role in the Great Purge or Tone playing Ric on the wing against Bolton? Is this last post not an attempt to defend the twat in the hat, albeit a thinly disguised one, by the way have you ever noticed when you start to go ferret it always seams to be you arguing against not just one, but a number of other posters, it's almost like it's you against the world. |
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Post by nik80 on Jan 23, 2017 19:05:32 GMT
I can't think of a single other occasion when Pulis has frozen out a player for his own reasons. That definitely never happened at Stoke. Did anyone else hear Pat Murphy's comments on Saturday: 1. Didn't WBA do well to get that amount of money for a player who's almost out of contract and hasn't played for 4 months. 2. The fee will be an absolute steal if we get him back to his best. 3. PM compared him to (someone, my mrs talked over it) and Kevin Phillips in the predatory striker stakes. Andy Griffin. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 23, 2017 19:48:07 GMT
Pulis didn't act foolishly. He committed fraud. Isn't refusing to play whilst still collecting your wage a type of fraud? Get that barrel scraped. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 23, 2017 19:55:32 GMT
Isn't refusing to play whilst still collecting your wage a type of fraud? Get that barrel scraped. I'm sure you'd be so sanguine about things if say Jon Walters (a Pulis signing) refused to ply for Mark Hughes. You wankstains are all as transparent as fuck! |
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Post by werrington on Jan 23, 2017 19:58:06 GMT
I'm sure you'd be so sanguine about things if say Jon Walters (a Pulis signing) refused to ply for Mark Hughes. You wankstains are all as transparent as fuck! He's got history ....didn't he allegedly refuse to play for Ipswich in order to force through a move to stoke prompting a bust up with Roy Keane ? |
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 23, 2017 20:05:07 GMT
It's beer time now and time for me to go and talk to humans and not this thing. I have made Pugs head explode with this debate - for which I apologise. Some have even threatened to come to my house and sort me out for daring to have a tad of empathy for our former manager What can I say - I have been truly beasted by fellow supporters - I am turning into benjibiscuit2 COYMP No. I threatened to send someone round to your house to stop you talking like a 13 year old black kid from Detroit. I'm ignoring the fact you think defrauding an employer is fine so long as you think you deserve the money you con out of them. Where do you work again? If it is good enough for MPs, Politicians & Bank Managers - at least Pulis had to pay for his sins. I don't work anywhere, I'm 13 years old, live in the state of Michigan and hate Honky's |
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 23, 2017 20:07:23 GMT
We have heard on Twitter off people who played/worked directly with Berahino - and they have a difference of opinion to your sources. Yes you are correct in saying that Berahino acted foolishly by refusing to play, as did Pulis when screwing his bonus out of Palace, but I think you could also argue he deserved his bonus when you consider where he found them and where he left them and how hard he worked at doing so, there is not really any case for Berahino's lame ass actions though. And if he had waited for another 2 weeks he could have kept the bonus he was entitled to. Whichever way you look at it there is something flawed in Pulis' make up. Maybe so - and Berahino? |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 23, 2017 20:10:50 GMT
Jesus if any of those Albion tossers come on here wondering whats our views on things, the last few pages are gonna seriously confuse them
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 23, 2017 20:37:57 GMT
Jesus if any of those Albion tossers come on here wondering whats our views on things, the last few pages are gonna seriously confuse them Don't you think they'd realise we had a common bond/hatred of someone |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 23, 2017 21:24:25 GMT
I'm sure you'd be so sanguine about things if say Jon Walters (a Pulis signing) refused to ply for Mark Hughes. You wankstains are all as transparent as fuck! Matter of time before he's "considering his future" now Saido has signed. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 23, 2017 21:29:37 GMT
I'm not going to be rude to you and its obviously not just me but its your overall tone every time Pulis comes up. So you were bullshitting then and I haven't actually defended Pulis one iota on this thread. Glad we got that sorted. One day at a time, one day at a time!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 21:36:56 GMT
page 242 "any stokies reading this we have won 6 more trophies than you, been in englands top flight many more years than you. you are a city and deluded" "But that cant be true they are a bigger club....... Saido has taken a sideways move at best....im sure if they get him going he will score goals, he will also attract attention from bigger clubs and want to move again I dont get Stoke fans, they think Berahino is innocent whilst putting Pulis down with insults, without him they wouldnt be anywhere near where they are now. Vile deluded supporters....the club I dont mind itself they are an original member like us and I like that kind of history but reading the oatcake makes you wonder about their mental abilities"  |
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 23, 2017 21:48:20 GMT
Is it a coincidence that Adrian Chiles and Frank Skinner happen to be two of the most ugly cunts on T.V....just saying..😉
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Jan 24, 2017 0:17:45 GMT
Jesus if any of those Albion tossers come on here wondering whats our views on things, the last few pages are gonna seriously confuse them Morning, One of those tossers calling.... IF SB can rediscover the vitality and goalscoring flair that he has shown (in flashes) for WBA, you have a bargain. WBA get £12m for a player who had no future with the club, although his latent talents have been recognised by the insertion of the 30% sell on clause. However, having seen the alarming decline in the player's performances, he may disappoint some of his more enthusiastic advocates on this board. I have watched the main 90 page+ SB thread evolve, and am surprised that Pulis, who is far from being my favourite Albion manager, is cast as the villain is the saga. Believe me, there were problems before our Tone appeared on the scene. The vindictive nature of our previous Chairman was a far bigger factor, together with the appalling 'advice' of his previous agent. |
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Post by johnfarmersmum on Jan 24, 2017 0:22:03 GMT
Fuck the debate... We have a very good player on the books. The new Steino!
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Jan 24, 2017 0:33:00 GMT
Time will tell... but he is not as versatile as some posters assume. Out wide? Not really his forte. Headers? A weakness. However his tracking back has improved no end thanks to our Tone.  |
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Post by kustokie on Jan 24, 2017 4:06:43 GMT
For once, I think momo may be 100 percent right. That's a new record, beating his previous personal best of 50 percent by 50 percent. Actually, that's 100% but your point's well taken! |
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Post by pez75 on Jan 24, 2017 9:59:23 GMT
Jesus if any of those Albion tossers come on here wondering whats our views on things, the last few pages are gonna seriously confuse them Morning, One of those tossers calling.... IF SB can rediscover the vitality and goalscoring flair that he has shown (in flashes) for WBA, you have a bargain. WBA get £12m for a player who had no future with the club, although his latent talents have been recognised by the insertion of the 30% sell on clause. However, having seen the alarming decline in the player's performances, he may disappoint some of his more enthusiastic advocates on this board. I have watched the main 90 page+ SB thread evolve, and am surprised that Pulis, who is far from being my favourite Albion manager, is cast as the villain is the saga. Believe me, there were problems before our Tone appeared on the scene. The vindictive nature of our previous Chairman was a far bigger factor, together with the appalling 'advice' of his previous agent. Please - take your reasoned observations and stick them up yer bum - they have no place in this agenda-ridden cess-pit. |
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