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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:59:19 GMT
The fact our manager has moved his replacement out to left back after one game speaks volumes, about a lot of things. One of those things isn't the quality of Indi either. I think it's speaks more about the manager resorting to desperate measures as he didn't know what to do with the back four. The decision to move him to left back was a massive cluster fuck in my eyes. It certainly raises that question. It also raises the question about Muniesa, the manager's use of his squad, his motivation of Pieters and his transfer strategy given the chairman's comments about him not being upset about our business. To name a few.
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Post by superheroantonius on Sept 21, 2016 9:02:13 GMT
People can have low opinions of him, but he and Adam moved from the bench to the first team to save our season this time last year. Then Afellay came in and gave it all a bit of class .
In my opinion the three of them did a good job , in less than ideal circumstances.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2016 9:42:50 GMT
He's at fault for 4 goals in one match though! Not even Cameron can take that away from him. Against the second best team in the league? We've just been twatted by one of the most average teams in the league bayern? Switch on pal. It doesn't matter does it? Sunderland did for Wolly! He's fucking useless, get over the useless git.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 21, 2016 9:43:47 GMT
I think it's speaks more about the manager resorting to desperate measures as he didn't know what to do with the back four. The decision to move him to left back was a massive cluster fuck in my eyes. It certainly raises that question. It also raises the question about Muniesa, the manager's use of his squad, his motivation of Pieters and his transfer strategy given the chairman's comments about him not being upset about our business. To name a few. He has played there before apparently so it isn't a mental idea, but it just wasn't needed.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 21, 2016 12:36:58 GMT
Probably the best individual defensive performance in our recent history.... but there we go. He was very good indeed that night. Me I'd say I'd seen better from Ryan, Huth and Abdy at various points since promotion but that's just my opinion. Opinions of course. I really felt like something had twigged with him that night. He'd finally settled and this was going to be the start of something wonderful. He was a one man barrier that game and that's probably a bit harsh on Muniesa who also played well, but it was interception after interception, after header, after header, it was really incredible. I remember feeling as though if we had gone through, his performance would have gone down in Stoke's folklore, along with Diouf's right back cameo role against Chelsea. Not to be. I don't disagree with some of what you say, but I'm not convinced we're better off letting him go. I have to say, I feel as though we've been much worse. Hopefully Indi can fix that.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Sept 21, 2016 12:48:39 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2016 13:43:53 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We conceded 4 in his last game with us....
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Post by pez75 on Sept 21, 2016 14:01:54 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We conceded 4 in his last game with us.... Our defensive frailties that we suffered with him here have continued since Wollscheid left, so surely that proves that he was not the problem or at least only a small part of it.
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Post by futch on Sept 21, 2016 14:05:18 GMT
He conceded 5 last night for Wolfsburg. He was all over the place....
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Post by nott1 on Sept 21, 2016 14:07:25 GMT
He conceded 5 last night for Wolfsburg. He was all over the place.... Except the right one?
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Post by futch on Sept 21, 2016 14:12:04 GMT
He conceded 5 last night for Wolfsburg. He was all over the place.... Except the right one? Exactly!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2016 14:34:47 GMT
We conceded 4 in his last game with us.... Our defensive frailties that we suffered with him here have continued since Wollscheid left, so surely that proves that he was not the problem or at least only a small part of it. Not when you stick Cameron in who is as bad if not worse.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2016 14:47:30 GMT
He conceded 5 last night for Wolfsburg. He was all over the place.... Was he wearing gloves ?
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2016 14:48:45 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We started to fall apart when we signed him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 15:01:42 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We started to fall apart when we signed him. Revisionist bollocks.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 21, 2016 15:02:29 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We started to fall apart when we signed him. Fuck me - are we still going to be blaming Wollscheid when we're playing Burton Albion next season? You didn't like him - fine. But he's gone now and he's not coming back. Who gives a shit what he does at Wolfsburg or what he wears? Move on FFS.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 21, 2016 15:13:50 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We started to fall apart when we signed him. Just think Carpal, he's still on our books. Supposing we re called him, or he returns after the loan. You'd have kittens. Enjoy your time apart. Get over him man.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Sept 21, 2016 15:25:02 GMT
We conceded 4 in his last game with us.... Our defensive frailties that we suffered with him here have continued since Wollscheid left, so surely that proves that he was not the problem or at least only a small part of it. As George Carlin said, "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2016 16:37:29 GMT
We've fallen to pieces since he left. We started to fall apart when we signed him. Ding ding ding.....we have a winner.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2016 16:39:02 GMT
Our defensive frailties that we suffered with him here have continued since Wollscheid left, so surely that proves that he was not the problem or at least only a small part of it. As George Carlin said, "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." An idiot that is actually right and has been for the last 9 months sadly! Coates banging on about the last 5 games is missing the point entirely.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2016 17:30:13 GMT
We started to fall apart when we signed him. Fuck me - are we still going to be blaming Wollscheid when we're playing Burton Albion next season? You didn't like him - fine. But he's gone now and he's not coming back. Who gives a shit what he does at Wolfsburg or what he wears? Move on FFS. We lost to Burton Albion 3-0 pre this season, who is to say he won't be coming back ? seems it is not only me who didn't like him Mark and his team shipped him out after 18 months.
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Post by muglump on Sept 21, 2016 17:34:23 GMT
We started to fall apart when we signed him. Revisionist bollocks. That is not a phrase i ever thought to read. Bravo!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2016 17:38:23 GMT
We started to fall apart when we signed him. Just think Carpal, he's still on our books. Supposing we re called him, or he returns after the loan. You'd have kittens. Enjoy your time apart. Get over him man. Not to worry a few posters on here are pointing out how much he is missed and how well he is playing, in that case recall him because we have fuck all cover now thanks to Mark and his team
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 17:42:24 GMT
He formed a good partnership with Cameron at times especially to get us out of the bad run at the start of the season. I'd really like it if we had the option to try him with Cameron or indi right now as I am very worried about shawx.
Madness to let him go on loan.
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Post by Mendicant on Oct 1, 2016 8:58:59 GMT
I bought today's edition of WAZ as it's my local paper. Unfortunately I suddenly remembered this post as I went to the counter to pay thinking "waz online" and of what gets written on The Oatcake, and I couldn't keep a straight face. The lady must have thought I was a rate weirdo
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