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Post by followyoudown on Sept 12, 2015 20:25:14 GMT
Not from what I read online he's going to rotate with his deputies. Big mistake. He'll do well against Cameron at PMQs IMO. A voice of principal versus a voice of, well, government! I don't really get this principle  thing, for 32 years he's been a member of a party that for large amounts of time have not represented his views in the slightest, to me that's the ultimate careerist mp and of course with a brother called piers, this man of the people act is stretching it a little bit too. |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 12, 2015 20:45:18 GMT
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 12, 2015 20:47:30 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 12, 2015 21:02:43 GMT
Of course they did £3 a pop to have a pop, less than a cup of Costa to fuck the Labour party up for the next ten years, cheap as chips and the other week Labour were crowing about the increase in membership prior to the leadership vote (rofl)funny as fuck you really could not make this up classic comedy. |
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 12, 2015 21:11:21 GMT
Wait and see on the first bit but whatever you think of the result Labour members new and old voted for Corbyn so the Tories getting him elected is as bigger a myth as anything you'll read on the refugees thread, whether they have all voted for christmas is another thing that we'll find out in 3 years or so. |
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 12, 2015 21:27:56 GMT
I am well aware of your adoration of this subject and at each and every opportunity you use the occasion to exploit it . But , I will repeat and reiterate the fact that you would never divulge your politics . You have denied many many times that you were a Labour supporter when requested . You seem to be a very troubled and sensitive unemployed teacher . And you seem to be a very twisted and angered bully these days. I was a member of the Labour Party, I left when Bliar took us to an illegal war. Corbyn is an honest and genuine socialist who has my support. And yet again your thinly veiled attempts at calling me "queer" backfire spectacularly. What a bitter and twisted creature you have become. You are defiantly queer  but not in a sexual orientation way that would be a very un PC of you tut tut , I am shocked that an ex teacher would use such a term Sir ! we expect much better termination by mid term |
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Post by stockportstokie on Sept 12, 2015 21:28:24 GMT
Oatcake has fallen to shit. Some reyt thick bellends polluting any current affairs/politics topic.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 12, 2015 21:36:11 GMT
Oatcake has fallen to shit. Some reyt thick bellends polluting any current affairs/politics topic. Careful Allahs left sandal will be calling you out for bullying, however I do agree with you Billy is reyt thick keeps getting the wrong posters in his replies, welcome by the way I think you will fit in a treat  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 21:56:18 GMT
And you seem to be a very twisted and angered bully these days. I was a member of the Labour Party, I left when Bliar took us to an illegal war. Corbyn is an honest and genuine socialist who has my support. And yet again your thinly veiled attempts at calling me "queer" backfire spectacularly. What a bitter and twisted creature you have become. You are defiantly queer but not in a sexual orientation way that would be a very un PC of you tut tut , I am shocked that an ex teacher would use such a term Sir ! we expect much better termination by mid term Taxi for Carpslayer  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 22:59:05 GMT
 For Mumf.... |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Sept 12, 2015 23:38:19 GMT
For Mumf.... Not trying to be pedantic but he wouldn't have crossed the 50% threshold in the 1st round. It's debatable how many would have had him as 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice, but in my opinion he'd of struggled to get past the 50% mark on members only votes. Not that this matters of course. |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 12, 2015 23:44:23 GMT
How so ? Just leave the agenda alone if possible Pay the debt off by growing the economy and increasing tax revenues. I've posted the economic argument for this on the Scottish Independance thread but I'm not clever enough to work out how to post a link. Make of that what you will... No agenda here. Just reason. Raising taxes is best done by making sure workers have expendable income to feed business hence feeding the treausury. Pricing people out of things by increasing the usual suspects does nothing for the economy or the debt. We are however trapped in the compressed wage bubble brought about by the introduction of cheap labour and at the other end, large companies using loopholes to avoid paying tax. Neither of these will improve anything except the profits for the greedy rich. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 13, 2015 8:45:51 GMT
Expect more of this sort of stuff. Much more...  |
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Post by starkiller on Sept 13, 2015 9:36:28 GMT
The corporate media have made any policies that favour ordinary folk rather than their corporation friends seem ludicrous and there's a long way to go to move from fear to hope.
As I said, there's currently 25million+ non voters.
I can't imagine they're all waiting for the next Blair clone (which is all Cameron is).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 11:02:29 GMT
And tbh the views of a these days centre to far right MB are about as relevant to the future of the Labour Party and socialist politics in this country as a semi-educated chocolate teapot... So sal are you in the left wingers must be more intelligent camp ? cheap shot if you do Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 13, 2015 11:46:32 GMT
So sal are you in the left wingers must be more intelligent camp ? cheap shot if you do Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. The real test of that will be at an election. Will it mean that anyone who dosnt vote for this labour party under Corbyn (if he lasts that long) will be considered less intelligent. |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 13, 2015 14:11:29 GMT
So sal are you in the left wingers must be more intelligent camp ? cheap shot if you do Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. Judging by the result is suggest they re look at that data |
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 13, 2015 15:06:52 GMT
So sal are you in the left wingers must be more intelligent camp ? cheap shot if you do Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. It's a great pity Luke with all that intelligence they've never quite worked out how to run the country |
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 13, 2015 15:38:04 GMT
So sal are you in the left wingers must be more intelligent camp ? cheap shot if you do Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 13, 2015 16:16:37 GMT
Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. Oh dear. I hope you're not referring to the same global warming sceptic Dr William M. Briggs (here's his "entertaining" blog wmbriggs.com ) who misunderstood a high-school level data graph. scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/02/01/william-m-briggs-has-misunders/ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 16:44:03 GMT
Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. It's a great pity Luke with all that intelligence they've never quite worked out how to run the country  1945-51 as just one example? Advocated by most political commentators as being the standout government of the 20th century in terms of achievement. In fact most of the advances to our society that we all take for granted right now have come political initiatives which derive from traditionally 'left-leaning' ideology. Rights for workers, social housing, the welfare state, the NHS to name just four. The fact that people over the last 35 years are daft enough to vote for governments red and blue which continually underfund these institutions doesn't make them any less valid. There's more than enough money in this country to solve all of its problems, it's just that most of it is in the hands of people who don't want to share a bigger portion of it, despite being more than able to afford to. And this continuing and deepening austerity seems to be returning us to exactly the kind of Edwardian reliance on private charitable giving (food banks etc) that prompted Attlee to realise that this would never solve poverty and inequality and that state initiated redistribution of wealth would. We seem very much to have given up on that idea. Over the last decade, as living standards dropped for most of us as a result of a neoliberal economy-inspired recession, the wealthiest got even wealthier. If you think that is how to run the country for the majority of people in it, you have some strange idea of how to run a country. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 16:46:14 GMT
Leftwingers are more intelligent - it's been scientifically proven (I can paste the link again if you like ). Just because you don't like the result of the study, that doesn't invalidate it or cheapen it, other than in your eyes! Once again only recently, the terror of those on the right at the 'uncontrollable influx' of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers from Syria, as pandered to and propagated by the usual right wing press, has lent yet more support to precisely what that scientific study of 15,000 people found - that rightwingers tend to be of lower intelligence, often prejudiced, terrified of anything that threatens the status quo especially if it comes from 'abroad'. You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of the findings of that study! You can say there are those on the left who also share those views, and you'd be right, but less so. It is primarily an approach held by rightwingers. There won't have been many rightwingers at the refugee march in London yesterday! I can't decide whether they are generally a bit dimmer than those on the left as the study concludes or whether they just don't give as much of a shit about other people. I suspect probably a mixture of both. Any chance you could post that link so I can read it without having to give money to Rupert Murdoch? |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 13, 2015 17:20:41 GMT
It's a great pity Luke with all that intelligence they've never quite worked out how to run the country 1945-51 as just one example? Advocated by most political commentators as being the standout government of the 20th century in terms of achievement. In fact most of the advances to our society that we all take for granted right now have come political initiatives which derive from traditionally 'left-leaning' ideology. Rights for workers, social housing, the welfare state, the NHS to name just four. The fact that people over the last 35 years are daft enough to vote for governments red and blue which continually underfund these institutions doesn't make them any less valid. There's more than enough money in this country to solve all of its problems, it's just that most of it is in the hands of people who don't want to share a bigger portion of it, despite being more than able to afford to. And this continuing and deepening austerity seems to be returning us to exactly the kind of Edwardian reliance on private charitable giving (food banks etc) that prompted Attlee to realise that this would never solve poverty and inequality and that state initiated redistribution of wealth would. We seem very much to have given up on that idea. Over the last decade, as living standards dropped for most of us as a result of a neoliberal economy-inspired recession, the wealthiest got even wealthier. If you think that is how to run the country for the majority of people in it, you have some strange idea of how to run a country. Trouble is, its the same left wing ideology that has almost destroyed all of those things for the everyday person in Britain. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 13, 2015 17:26:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 17:31:41 GMT
Can you guess which one holds the seat of power children ?
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Post by starkiller on Sept 13, 2015 18:07:16 GMT
Clearly those labour mps throwing their toys out of the pram have no belief in democracy and conclusive majority election win.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 13, 2015 18:09:18 GMT
Which tells you everything you need to know about this rigged, elitist system/life we have. Can you guess which one holds the seat of power children ? |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 13, 2015 18:09:55 GMT
Clearly those labour mps throwing their toys out of the pram have no belief in democracy and conclusive majority election win. Bit like the PC Zombies who also hate democracy |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 18:21:39 GMT
For Mumf....  |
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 13, 2015 19:01:38 GMT
Hhahahahaha,
Right wingers trying to nip it in the bud, repeating the right wing media over and over..........
The Threat Left wingers, commies, CND, beards and shit.......DANGER DANGER!!! CORBYN, ARRRRG4G4G4R4R4R4G4G4G4!!!!!!!!
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thing, for 32 years he's been a member of a party that for large amounts of time have not represented his views in the slightest, to me that's the ultimate careerist mp and of course with a brother called piers, this man of the people act is stretching it a little bit too.
but not in a sexual orientation way that would be a very un PC of you tut tut , I am shocked that an ex teacher would use such a term Sir ! we expect much better termination by mid term
1945-51 as just one example? Advocated by most political commentators as being the standout government of the 20th century in terms of achievement. 
