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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 12, 2015 19:00:24 GMT
Absolutely, how many more socialists like me went Green because they couldn't see Labour having a socialist leadership again in their lifetime? That's why I'm feeling so inspired today. Whereas you, who are essentially a Tory, could keeo voting Labour for years as they moved further and further to the right. No let's get this right ....You were a liberal pissflapper , then you went socialist , then you went Green , and now you're back as a socialist .... My politics has always been the same . Labour Centre . Just to be pedantic  'liberal' never meant LibDem when applied to pissflappery.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:06:26 GMT
Huddy ( of bullying fame) kept his party allegience secret for years ...... It's only fairly recently that he has " Come Out " ....    Weird how you swore you wouldn't "bother" with me again, yet here you are peddling the same old homophobic claptrap. What a sad excuse for a man you have become. I am well aware of your adoration of this subject and at each and every opportunity you use the occasion to exploit it . But , I will repeat and reiterate the fact that you would never divulge your politics . You have denied many many times that you were a Labour supporter when requested . You seem to be a very troubled and sensitive unemployed teacher . |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 12, 2015 19:11:46 GMT
That's gloriously missing the point. Labour needed a unifying figure. It looks, on the face of it, as though they've now got the precise opposite. I think you might find the opposite. I may be wrong but the other three were a continuation of tory lite labour, so hardly surprising that the majority of existing members voted for a change. You're again missing the point. MP's are now refusing to serve in his shadow cabinet and Labour Party members are leaving the party. That's pretty devisive. We'll need to see 1. if John McDonnell is Shadow Chancellor (apparently reports tonight seem to be suggesting a split between Watson and Corbyn over this already) and 2. how the policies manifest themselves. I can't see the party letting NATO withdrawal and unilateral disarmament get through but if they do and 1. happens then.....hmm. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:13:07 GMT
No let's get this right ....You were a liberal pissflapper , then you went socialist , then you went Green , and now you're back as a socialist .... My politics has always been the same . Labour Centre . Just to be pedantic 'liberal' never meant LibDem when applied to pissflappery.... Lets not add more complexity or additions to the list . It's already bad enough , and your use of the term ' chocolate teapot ' just adds more poignancy . |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 19:14:42 GMT
I think you might find the opposite. I may be wrong but the other three were a continuation of tory lite labour, so hardly surprising that the majority of existing members voted for a change. You're again missing the point. MP's are now refusing to serve in his shadow cabinet and Labour Party members are leaving the party. That's pretty devisive. We'll need to see 1. if John McDonnell is Shadow Chancellor (apparently reports tonight seem to be suggesting a split between Watson and Corbyn over this already) and 2. how the policies manifest themselves. I can't see the party letting NATO withdrawal and unilateral disarmament get through but if they do and 1. happens then.....hmm. I think it's more the PLP that's the issue is it not? The grassroots members voted in majority for him. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 19:17:50 GMT
Weird how you swore you wouldn't "bother" with me again, yet here you are peddling the same old homophobic claptrap. What a sad excuse for a man you have become. I am well aware of your adoration of this subject and at each and every opportunity you use the occasion to exploit it . But , I will repeat and reiterate the fact that you would never divulge your politics . You have denied many many times that you were a Labour supporter when requested . You seem to be a very troubled and sensitive unemployed teacher . And you seem to be a very twisted and angered bully these days. I was a member of the Labour Party, I left when Bliar took us to an illegal war. Corbyn is an honest and genuine socialist who has my support. And yet again your thinly veiled attempts at calling me "queer" backfire spectacularly. What a bitter and twisted creature you have become. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:17:55 GMT
You're again missing the point. MP's are now refusing to serve in his shadow cabinet and Labour Party members are leaving the party. That's pretty devisive. We'll need to see 1. if John McDonnell is Shadow Chancellor (apparently reports tonight seem to be suggesting a split between Watson and Corbyn over this already) and 2. how the policies manifest themselves. I can't see the party letting NATO withdrawal and unilateral disarmament get through but if they do and 1. happens then.....hmm. I think it's more the PLP that's the issue is it not? The grassroots members voted in majority for him. Dont talk fucking stupid .....most were Tories that paid their £3 quid . they're out getting pissed as we speak ...... You are living in cloud cuckoo land . |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 19:19:43 GMT
Absolutely, how many more socialists like me went Green because they couldn't see Labour having a socialist leadership again in their lifetime? That's why I'm feeling so inspired today. Whereas you, who are essentially a Tory, could keeo voting Labour for years as they moved further and further to the right. No let's get this right ....You were a liberal pissflapper , then you went socialist , then you went Green , and now you're back as a socialist .... My politics has always been the same . Labour Centre . National Socialist more like. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 12, 2015 19:20:19 GMT
And tbh the views of a these days centre to far right MB are about as relevant to the future of the Labour Party and socialist politics in this country as a semi-educated chocolate teapot... So sal are you in the left wingers must be more intelligent camp ? cheap shot if you do Apologies if it came across like that - it wouldn't be fair to call some of the BNP/EDL stuff on here even semi-educated but I'm not saying there aren't decent intelligent Tories out there and even on this board. You're all wrong mind... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 19:22:27 GMT
I think it's more the PLP that's the issue is it not? The grassroots members voted in majority for him. Dont talk fucking stupid .....most were Tories that paid their £3 quid . they're out getting pissed as we speak ...... You are living in cloud cuckoo land . The existing Labour Party membership (that's the ones who were already there and didn't have to pay 3 quid, just to spell it out into your befuddled brain) voted in majority for Corbyn. He'd have won without the £3 supporters, sorry to piss on your crackers pal. Now who's talking "fucking stupid"? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:22:45 GMT
I am well aware of your adoration of this subject and at each and every opportunity you use the occasion to exploit it . But , I will repeat and reiterate the fact that you would never divulge your politics . You have denied many many times that you were a Labour supporter when requested . You seem to be a very troubled and sensitive unemployed teacher . And you seem to be a very twisted and angered bully these days. I was a member of the Labour Party, I left when Bliar took us to an illegal war. Corbyn is an honest and genuine socialist who has my support. And yet again your thinly veiled attempts at calling me "queer" backfire spectacularly. What a bitter and twisted creature you have become. I never called you a queer ....but your obsession on this subject holds no bounds . It's your favourite subject . You love it . I don't . It sickens me and so do you . |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 19:23:46 GMT
And you seem to be a very twisted and angered bully these days. I was a member of the Labour Party, I left when Bliar took us to an illegal war. Corbyn is an honest and genuine socialist who has my support. And yet again your thinly veiled attempts at calling me "queer" backfire spectacularly. What a bitter and twisted creature you have become. I never called you a queer ....but your obsession on this subject holds no bounds . It's your favourite subject . You love it . I don't . It sickens me and so do you . A misogynist as well as homophobic. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:25:27 GMT
Big deal.....
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 12, 2015 19:27:14 GMT
I think it's more the PLP that's the issue is it not? The grassroots members voted in majority for him. Dont talk fucking stupid .....most were Tories that paid their £3 quid . they're out getting pissed as we speak ...... You are living in cloud cuckoo land . Is that your excuse. You p!$$ed |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:28:20 GMT
Not yet ..... But we know where this heading don't we .... Bathstokie........I quote : It is funny, how the same old, same old talk of cowardice & taking up arms against the jihad & none of them have seen active service. Their very nature on this board is nothing short of cowardice. Their lives unexamined are not worth living. It's interesting that they bemoan the refugees fleeing these evil cnuts, but applaud their demise. This site is better with the likes of you Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/247957/brit-jihadist?page=4#ixzz3lYRHbwho |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 12, 2015 19:36:06 GMT
Dont talk fucking stupid .....most were Tories that paid their £3 quid . they're out getting pissed as we speak ...... You are living in cloud cuckoo land . Is that your excuse. You p!$$ed No he just can't stand being found out. |
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 12, 2015 19:37:01 GMT
Not yet ..... But we know where this heading don't we .... Bathstokie........I quote : It is funny, how the same old, same old talk of cowardice & taking up arms against the jihad & none of them have seen active service. Their very nature on this board is nothing short of cowardice. Their lives unexamined are not worth living. It's interesting that they bemoan the refugees fleeing these evil cnuts, but applaud their demise. This site is better with the likes of you Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/247957/brit-jihadist?page=4#ixzz3lYRHbwhoWhat exactly is it that you're seeing here mumf |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:39:03 GMT
Found out ?
Found out what ?
Am I on your confidential list that you won't disclose ?
KKK , EDL , BNP , ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 19:39:21 GMT
Not yet ..... But we know where this heading don't we .... Bathstokie........I quote : It is funny, how the same old, same old talk of cowardice & taking up arms against the jihad & none of them have seen active service. Their very nature on this board is nothing short of cowardice. Their lives unexamined are not worth living. It's interesting that they bemoan the refugees fleeing these evil cnuts, but applaud their demise. This site is better with the likes of you Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/247957/brit-jihadist?page=4#ixzz3lYRHbwhoWhat exactly is it that you're seeing here mumf Your writing , your words...... You . |
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 12, 2015 19:42:55 GMT
What exactly is it that you're seeing here mumf Your writing , your words...... You . Are you hearing voices, cause you seem to be in a world of your own making |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 12, 2015 19:49:37 GMT
You're again missing the point. MP's are now refusing to serve in his shadow cabinet and Labour Party members are leaving the party. That's pretty devisive. We'll need to see 1. if John McDonnell is Shadow Chancellor (apparently reports tonight seem to be suggesting a split between Watson and Corbyn over this already) and 2. how the policies manifest themselves. I can't see the party letting NATO withdrawal and unilateral disarmament get through but if they do and 1. happens then.....hmm. I think it's more the PLP that's the issue is it not? The grassroots members voted in majority for him. The PLP is an issue yes, but I can only speak for my own CLP. My CLP has a sizeably significant minority who say they can't vote for Corbyn on policy grounds (mainly foreign policy, hence me banging on about it, but also economic reasons too). 12 have revoked today and others are sleeping on it. The mood in the CLP seems to be - "great, it's a new political era etc, but what do you do with those who've been with the party for twenty or more years who are suddenly disenfranchised?" The PLP "refusal to serve" situation seems to be exacerbating the CLP in so much as many are now sitting back and saying the new £3 internet members can do all of the campaigning now. There actual physical members who turn up to campaign are saying they will now refuse to. It's causing a huge kerfuffle locally. Early days, but as I say, if John McDonnell gets Shadow Chancellor....there'll be trouble. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 12, 2015 19:52:19 GMT
One thing is for certain. Politics is about to get much more interesting.
Instead of the bland identikit wall of Blair look-a-likes we had at the last election; late middle-aged men all desperately trying to occupy the promised land of the middle ground of British politics, we now have a Captain Birds Eye look a like who is going to rock the boat big time.
Whose boat he rocks the most is open to debate, of course. I get why many on the left see this as a sea change, a return of Labour to principled politics. Sadly, I see it as a return to politics of opposition for a long time to come.
Time will tell of course. But the immediate "resignations" of senior labour figures sends out a strong signal that the Labour Party is not unanimously behind their leader. (To put it mildly!).
Good luck to him. I look forward to him putting the squeeze on DC at PMQs. Which I think he will do. But, it won't do him much good in the long run.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 12, 2015 19:57:38 GMT
One thing is for certain. Politics is about to get much more interesting. Instead of the bland identikit wall of Blair look-a-likes we had at the last election; late middle-aged men all desperately trying to occupy the promised land of the middle ground of British politics, we now have a Captain Birds Eye look a like who is going to rock the boat big time. Whose boat he rocks the most is open to debate, of course. I get why many on the left see this as a sea change, a return of Labour to principled politics. Sadly, I see it as a return to politics of opposition for a long time to come. Time will tell of course. But the immediate "resignations" of senior labour figures sends out a strong signal that the Labour Party is not unanimously behind their leader. (To put it mildly!). Good luck to him. I look forward to him putting the squeeze on DC at PMQs. Which I think he will do. But, it won't do him much good in the long run. As he is only doing 1 in 5 PMQ's I wouldn't bank on him squeezing anyone. |
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 12, 2015 19:59:13 GMT
One thing is for certain. Politics is about to get much more interesting. Instead of the bland identikit wall of Blair look-a-likes we had at the last election; late middle-aged men all desperately trying to occupy the promised land of the middle ground of British politics, we now have a Captain Birds Eye look a like who is going to rock the boat big time. Whose boat he rocks the most is open to debate, of course. I get why many on the left see this as a sea change, a return of Labour to principled politics. Sadly, I see it as a return to politics of opposition for a long time to come. Time will tell of course. But the immediate "resignations" of senior labour figures sends out a strong signal that the Labour Party is not unanimously behind their leader. (To put it mildly!). Good luck to him. I look forward to him putting the squeeze on DC at PMQs. Which I think he will do. But, it won't do him much good in the long run. It's true, Which of the other candidates were "stand out". |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 12, 2015 20:01:58 GMT
One thing is for certain. Politics is about to get much more interesting. Instead of the bland identikit wall of Blair look-a-likes we had at the last election; late middle-aged men all desperately trying to occupy the promised land of the middle ground of British politics, we now have a Captain Birds Eye look a like who is going to rock the boat big time. Whose boat he rocks the most is open to debate, of course. I get why many on the left see this as a sea change, a return of Labour to principled politics. Sadly, I see it as a return to politics of opposition for a long time to come. Time will tell of course. But the immediate "resignations" of senior labour figures sends out a strong signal that the Labour Party is not unanimously behind their leader. (To put it mildly!). Good luck to him. I look forward to him putting the squeeze on DC at PMQs. Which I think he will do. But, it won't do him much good in the long run. As he is only doing 1 in 5 PMQ's I wouldn't bank on him squeezing anyone. Is he not going to be going head to head with Cameron weekly? |
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 12, 2015 20:06:18 GMT
As he is only doing 1 in 5 PMQ's I wouldn't bank on him squeezing anyone. Is he not going to be going head to head with Cameron weekly? Not from what I read online he's going to rotate with his deputies. |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 12, 2015 20:08:34 GMT
One thing is for certain. Politics is about to get much more interesting. Instead of the bland identikit wall of Blair look-a-likes we had at the last election; late middle-aged men all desperately trying to occupy the promised land of the middle ground of British politics, we now have a Captain Birds Eye look a like who is going to rock the boat big time. Whose boat he rocks the most is open to debate, of course. I get why many on the left see this as a sea change, a return of Labour to principled politics. Sadly, I see it as a return to politics of opposition for a long time to come. Time will tell of course. But the immediate "resignations" of senior labour figures sends out a strong signal that the Labour Party is not unanimously behind their leader. (To put it mildly!). Good luck to him. I look forward to him putting the squeeze on DC at PMQs. Which I think he will do. But, it won't do him much good in the long run. As he is only doing 1 in 5 PMQ's I wouldn't bank on him squeezing anyone. Yes I heard something about Corbyn not doing PMQ's and wasn't sure if it was this week. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 12, 2015 20:10:39 GMT
Is he not going to be going head to head with Cameron weekly? Not from what I read online he's going to rotate with his deputies. Big mistake. He'll do well against Cameron at PMQs IMO. A voice of principal versus a voice of, well, government! |
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 12, 2015 20:12:18 GMT
Is he not going to be going head to head with Cameron weekly? Not from what I read online he's going to rotate with his deputies. That greasy face £@#&er will mock that till someone out qunts him |
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 12, 2015 20:22:56 GMT
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'liberal' never meant LibDem when applied to pissflappery....
