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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 23:41:26 GMT
I like what Corbyn is doing for Labour. And I'd never knock what the Phoenicians did for us. UKIP and The Conservatives are also equally impressed , so much so that some have joined the party to vote in his favour ......!!,
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Post by desman2 on Sept 8, 2015 23:53:23 GMT
Something wrong when a party is so detested that opponents are willing to pay 3 quid to participate in its destruction. In fact its almost hilarious
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 0:06:43 GMT
Something wrong when a party is so detested that opponents are willing to pay 3 quid to participate in its destruction. In fact its almost hilarious But if that's not bad enough ...the fuckers running the show seem to be oblivious to it ....even bragging that membership has gone by 100% or whatever it is... Whilst Harriet Harmon is busying herself over the legality of a drone killing a British born terorist in Syria .......What a fucking tit !!!!!!!!
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Post by devondumpling on Sept 9, 2015 9:42:48 GMT
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Post by redstriper on Sept 9, 2015 9:57:03 GMT
46 pages on this bunch of inconsequential losers. Glad I haven't bothered, time to gets some more relevant threads going...
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 9, 2015 19:17:12 GMT
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 9, 2015 19:42:28 GMT
Come off it Derrida, you can see through that for what it is. Just another soldier firing aimless blanks in the hope a stray spark will connect...... the "get Corbyn" campaign's last stand, even playing the anti-Semite card with such a casual matter of fact.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 9, 2015 21:07:22 GMT
It's a good piece - nice turn of phrase, like this one; we're going to sea in a sieve.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 9, 2015 21:10:17 GMT
Come off it Derrida, you can see through that for what it is. Just another soldier firing aimless blanks in the hope a stray spark will connect...... the "get Corbyn" campaign's last stand, even playing the anti-Semite card with such a casual matter of fact. Yeah, fair enough, there are some unnecessary terms in there. That said the bones of the piece are probably what's going to stick in the throats of a lot of people. Plus, we have to be aware that people are allowed to write things about Corbn if they disagree with him, just as they are if they agree. I'm not against Corbyn per se....if he wins then he wins, as it were, and the party will stand by their man....but I disagree with his foreign policy particularly. I didn't nominate Corbyn at all because in my view he won't make the best leader. Everyone's got a view just as everyone in the Labour Party has a vote.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2015 21:26:22 GMT
Something wrong when a party is so detested that opponents are willing to pay 3 quid to participate in its destruction. In fact its almost hilarious But if that's not bad enough ...the fuckers running the show seem to be oblivious to it ....even bragging that membership has gone by 100% or whatever it is... Whilst Harriet Harmon is busying herself over the legality of a drone killing a British born terorist in Syria .......What a fucking tit !!!!!!!! Is this the woman who proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to about 10 ? sick left wing bitch call in the drones I hate paedophiles.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 9, 2015 21:31:15 GMT
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 9, 2015 21:31:23 GMT
Come off it Derrida, you can see through that for what it is. Just another soldier firing aimless blanks in the hope a stray spark will connect...... the "get Corbyn" campaign's last stand, even playing the anti-Semite card with such a casual matter of fact. Yeah, fair enough, there are some unnecessary terms in there. That said the bones of the piece are probably what's going to stick in the throats of a lot of people. Plus, we have to be aware that people are allowed to write things about Corbn if they disagree with him, just as they are if they agree. I'm not against Corbyn per se....if he wins then he wins, as it were, and the party will stand by their man....but I disagree with his foreign policy particularly. I didn't nominate Corbyn at all because in my view he won't make the best leader. Everyone's got a view just as everyone in the Labour Party has a vote. So which one would make the best leader, and why?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 21:33:50 GMT
But if that's not bad enough ...the fuckers running the show seem to be oblivious to it ....even bragging that membership has gone by 100% or whatever it is... Whilst Harriet Harmon is busying herself over the legality of a drone killing a British born terorist in Syria .......What a fucking tit !!!!!!!! Is this the woman who proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to about 10 ? sick left wing bitch call in the drones I hate paedophiles. The end is nigh for me with Labour . If Corbyn and her are the future then that's it ...I'm out . Nothing has ever made me feel this strongly about the way the party has gone , but enough is enough . I cannot and will not stand side by side with gutless poncy cowards under the banner of labour .
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Post by starkiller on Sept 10, 2015 7:37:08 GMT
At least Corbyn says what he believes and is not some gesticulating, schooled, coiffered robot, with no experience, always careful about what they say.
That in itself is a breath of fresh air in politics.
A fix if he doesn't win.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 10, 2015 7:47:25 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Sept 10, 2015 8:09:20 GMT
But if that's not bad enough ...the fuckers running the show seem to be oblivious to it ....even bragging that membership has gone by 100% or whatever it is... Whilst Harriet Harmon is busying herself over the legality of a drone killing a British born terorist in Syria .......What a fucking tit !!!!!!!! Is this the woman who proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to about 10 ? sick left wing bitch call in the drones I hate paedophiles. Can't see Corbyn working with that bitch and friend of Cameron, especially after she openly supported the Tory welfare bill, when Corbyn openly opposes it.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 10, 2015 16:47:23 GMT
At least Corbyn says what he believes and is not some gesticulating, schooled, coiffered robot, with no experience, always careful about what they say. That in itself is a breath of fresh air in politics. A fix if he doesn't win. Well not quite. Granted most of the new members would (probably) have voted for Corbyn but he pretty much needs to win it in the first round. I can't see anybody putting Corbyn down as a second preference given the available choice of candidates. Corbyn supporters probably won't put a second preference down either. It's going to be close if Corbyn doesn't win it in the first round. As I've said before most moderates inside Labour dislike the prospect of a Corbyn leadership. It could be very very close.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 10, 2015 19:30:16 GMT
Yeah, fair enough, there are some unnecessary terms in there. That said the bones of the piece are probably what's going to stick in the throats of a lot of people. Plus, we have to be aware that people are allowed to write things about Corbn if they disagree with him, just as they are if they agree. I'm not against Corbyn per se....if he wins then he wins, as it were, and the party will stand by their man....but I disagree with his foreign policy particularly. I didn't nominate Corbyn at all because in my view he won't make the best leader. Everyone's got a view just as everyone in the Labour Party has a vote. So which one would make the best leader, and why? Bump!
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Post by starkiller on Sept 12, 2015 0:14:13 GMT
Corbyn over a Tristam Cunt any day of the week - who apparently will resign if Corbyn wins.
He can go back to the public school that spawned him and his like.
A workers' Labour Party, my arse.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 12, 2015 0:42:15 GMT
Corbyn over a Tristam Cunt any day of the week - who apparently will resign if Corbyn wins. He can go back to the public school that spawned him and his like. A workers' Labour Party, my arse. The Labour Party has NEVER been about where you're from. It's about trying to give everybody the same chance in life irrespective of background. The Labour Party's greatest leader wasn't exactly working class. www.gov.uk/government/history/past-prime-ministers/clement-attlee
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 12, 2015 0:56:30 GMT
Corbyn over a Tristam Cunt any day of the week - who apparently will resign if Corbyn wins. He can go back to the public school that spawned him and his like. A workers' Labour Party, my arse. He says he'll resign his seat? If he does that he can suck shit. I know his background and was accepting of it, after all class distinction is a negative thing. But refusing to work with a leader whose primary objective is a fairer society is just twattish.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 12, 2015 0:58:48 GMT
Much more preferable to a bunch of office-type cunts in suits, with cloned gestures, robotic speech and the same tired old bullshit.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 12, 2015 0:59:47 GMT
**************, Wiki is never good source. Best not to use it. Corbyn over a Tristam Cunt any day of the week - who apparently will resign if Corbyn wins. He can go back to the public school that spawned him and his like. A workers' Labour Party, my arse. The Labour Party has NEVER been about where you're from. It's about trying to give everybody the same chance in life irrespective of background. The Labour Party's greatest leader wasn't exactly working class. So times have indeed changed. Use the facility on Wikipedia to change any inaccuracies. That's precisely why Wikipedia isn't an exact science I'd never use it as a source. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Attlee#Early_life_and_education
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 12, 2015 1:08:03 GMT
Here's a great little interview between Owen Jones and Peter Hitchens which is refreshingly nice to watch!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 12, 2015 5:10:21 GMT
What Corbyn is attempting to do to democratise the Labour Party is admirable. Also I hope he can maintain his Bennite stance of 'issues not personalities' I believe that he will make a genuine attempt to bring others with him, compromising some of his "policies" ( even anti-austerity and NATO membership ) in the short term in order to be effective, and try to promote some sort of unity/collective responsibility and play the long game.In this respect he is an astute 'politician' Unfortunately his image, and past record , when not expecting to be party leader, and the establishment/media will make his electability difficult, with the caveat that we are entering a couple of years of turbulence politically. I believe that he hss the worst record for rebellion against the whip, so I guess he is on dodgy ground when expecting loyalty. It will be interesting to see where he tries to take the party on the EU issue. ......................... Extract from the link below ; "He is also planning to change the way the party makes policy, using the internet and social media to hold bottom-up policy consultations. The era is over, he said, “when you elect some all-knowing all-seeing celebrity who sends it down the food chain”. Jeremy Corbyn: it’s time for a new kind of politics gu.com/p/4cb35?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_ColorNote
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Post by starkiller on Sept 12, 2015 7:27:54 GMT
What Corbyn is attempting to do to democratise the Labour Party is admirable. Also I hope he can maintain his Bennite stance of 'issues not personalities' I believe that he will make a genuine attempt to bring others with him, compromising some of his "policies" ( even anti-austerity and NATO membership ) in the short term in order to be effective, and try to promote some sort of unity/collective responsibility and play the long game.In this respect he is an astute 'politician' Unfortunately his image, and past record , when not expecting to be party leader, and the establishment/media will make his electability difficult, with the caveat that we are entering a couple of years of turbulence politically. I believe that he hss the worst record for rebellion against the whip, so I guess he is on dodgy ground when expecting loyalty. It will be interesting to see where he tries to take the party on the EU issue. ......................... Extract from the link below ; "He is also planning to change the way the party makes policy, using the internet and social media to hold bottom-up policy consultations. The era is over, he said, “when you elect some all-knowing all-seeing celebrity who sends it down the food chain”. Jeremy Corbyn: it’s time for a new kind of politics gu.com/p/4cb35?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_ColorNoteI think if he becomes leader, we will begin to get the voice of what ordinary people of the UK want, rather than what the papers tell them what they should want. It will surprise political parties and many other people. For example, he's considered left but wants out of the EU. There are at least 16 million who didn't vote and around another 11 million who didn't even register. That's a massive amount of people to tap into with a different set of ideas, considering the Tories won with 11 million votes. Registered non-voters on their own would have wiped the floor with Tories in the last election. Amongst the young, who make up much of the non-voting, I believe Corbyn would storm it. Any party that can retain its vote but draw just a small proportion of non voting or non registered will be onto something. Labour were only 2 million votes behind the Tories last time. Tiny amount when you consider the votes available. Depends if labour supporters will stay with the party despite disagreeing with some policies but does anyone fully support a party's policies? The unpalatable ones are inflicted on the population once a government gets in power, like the tories selling off the royal mail, with no mention anywhere before... Whatever, people are sick of the same old shit and that is what following the newspapers has brought us. Corbyn has run a grass roots campaign and has been slated by the media. Despite this, he has held nearly a hundred rallies where there hasn't been enough space for people wanting to attend. Someone tell me how often that happened during the general election campaigns? Many people are sick of the media and being told what to do. Distrust in all of these forms of establishment must be at all time high.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 12, 2015 7:42:13 GMT
What Corbyn is attempting to do to democratise the Labour Party is admirable. Also I hope he can maintain his Bennite stance of 'issues not personalities' I believe that he will make a genuine attempt to bring others with him, compromising some of his "policies" ( even anti-austerity and NATO membership ) in the short term in order to be effective, and try to promote some sort of unity/collective responsibility and play the long game.In this respect he is an astute 'politician' Unfortunately his image, and past record , when not expecting to be party leader, and the establishment/media will make his electability difficult, with the caveat that we are entering a couple of years of turbulence politically. I believe that he hss the worst record for rebellion against the whip, so I guess he is on dodgy ground when expecting loyalty. It will be interesting to see where he tries to take the party on the EU issue. ......................... Extract from the link below ; "He is also planning to change the way the party makes policy, using the internet and social media to hold bottom-up policy consultations. The era is over, he said, “when you elect some all-knowing all-seeing celebrity who sends it down the food chain”. Jeremy Corbyn: it’s time for a new kind of politics gu.com/p/4cb35?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_ColorNoteMuch as I respect him for being a conviction politician, he will never be PM. That in itself would not be a failure, if he ultimately gives the Labour Party that follows him, an actual identity again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 7:42:39 GMT
Starkiller......
Crap.
Labour were neck and neck with the Tories before this leadership battle .
Whilst it has gone on , and Corbyns name been the main one mentioned it has lost 12 % .
Once he becomes leader it will lose another 12 % .
On this website there are currently 6 ex labour voters who have left the party and who regularly participate on these type of threads .
That figure is about to rise to 7 .
Infact there's only Handbag Huddy (0f bullying fame ) and Billy Bongo who like the idea .
I'll let you draw your own conclusions .
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Post by starkiller on Sept 12, 2015 7:50:25 GMT
Starkiller...... Crap. Labour were neck and neck with the Tories before this leadership battle . Whilst it has gone on , and Corbyns name been the main one mentioned it has lost 12 % . Once he becomes leader it will lose another 12 % . On this website there are currently 6 ex labour voters who have left the party and who regularly participate on these type of threads . That figure is about to rise to 7 . Infact there's only Handbag Huddy (0f bullying fame ) and Billy Bongo who like the idea . I'll let you draw your own conclusions . We will see. They can be replaced by others - like those that abandoned it when it became diet Tory and new young voters This has potential to be like the SNP movement north of the border. Not definite, but potential...
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 12, 2015 7:55:53 GMT
Here's a great little interview between Owen Jones and Peter Hitchens which is refreshingly nice to watch! Wow. That interview looks like an idealistic younger version of the same person interviewing his older cynical self. I wonder if Owen has thought about that. Peter Hitchins is what he will be in 20-30 years.
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