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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 20:57:31 GMT
The same labour party who lost 6 million votes since 1997? Do try and keep up. Mind you as you're leaving us soon I suspect it's no longer your concern eh? As a soon to be ex pat. I will be exercising my right to vote in the interests of my children who will still be residing in the UK for another few years, I even thought about relocating to Thailand but I might bump into ************** when he travels over for his  morning visits. FFS CARPS .......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.........! |
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 6, 2015 20:58:32 GMT
If you have a captive audience of a particular type that has plenty of time to indulge themselves in such left wing idealist rhetoric punctuated with satirical bullshit and parody , then the above article is perfect for the purpose it was written . If however you live in the real world and eminate from a more humble Union back ground , then you're more inclined to cut the article up into 6" squares and hang them the shithouse door . I often wonder if they have shithouse doors in Thailand or even flats in Fegg Hayes  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 21:01:13 GMT
I think they tend to drag their arses along the floor ....Doggy fashion .
It's saves the rain forest being cut down ......CND styleeeeeee.....
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 6, 2015 21:13:07 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 6, 2015 21:13:55 GMT
I think they tend to drag their arses along the floor ....Doggy fashion . It's saves the rain forest being cut down ......CND styleeeeeee..... Might be a bit of a hazard in Thailand Mumf, getting mistaken for a dog could be a prelude to ending up on the evening menu, should be ok in Fegg Hayes flats though especially on a longish shag pile preferably not a cream colour  think of the skid marks. |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 6, 2015 21:24:03 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 6, 2015 23:46:08 GMT
Carpy and Mumf Sitting in a tree.... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 6, 2015 23:47:32 GMT
It's precisely people from humble union backgrounds that have been inspired by and are voting for Corbyn.
Mumf meltdown active...yet again.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 7, 2015 0:30:44 GMT
Whatever happens Labour won't win in 2020. Whoever the leader is. To win the seats back in Scotland and upcoming boundary changes as well it will be too hard for anyone to make up that ground. It could be 100 seats to win back and that just isn't going to happen. So if Corbyn becomes leader don't thin k the 2020 defat is because just because of that. Labour won't win and that's regardless of leader is.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 7, 2015 5:49:29 GMT
Whatever happens Labour won't win in 2020. Whoever the leader is. To win the seats back in Scotland and upcoming boundary changes as well it will be too hard for anyone to make up that ground. It could be 100 seats to win back and that just isn't going to happen. So if Corbyn becomes leader don't thin k the 2020 defat is because just because of that. Labour won't win and that's regardless of leader is. Agree Labour are highly unlikely to win - even in a coalition with the SNP. The important question is will they gain ground or lose it in 2020. What they can't afford is a reversal along the lines of 1983 when Foot was in charge - the last time Labour choose a leader thinking inside their little box with no consideration of the wider electorate whose votes they needed. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 7, 2015 6:02:57 GMT
interesting article. The "militant" left will always present a serious problem for Labour. Their MO can be highly effective and their commitment and passion moderates find difficult to match. Labour has been here before - and it took Kinnock to stand up to the corrosive effect it was having in his party. Even then it took years before they could convince the electorate they could be trusted in government. As the article points out - don't just listen to Corbyn. Check what his supporters are saying - and who his supporters are. Gorgeous George returning? Goodness me! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 6:54:59 GMT
Whatever happens Labour won't win in 2020. Whoever the leader is. To win the seats back in Scotland and upcoming boundary changes as well it will be too hard for anyone to make up that ground. It could be 100 seats to win back and that just isn't going to happen. So if Corbyn becomes leader don't thin k the 2020 defat is because just because of that. Labour won't win and that's regardless of leader is. Joe No ....! I hear what you are saying about Scotland and yes you're right ,but don't think for one second that even if the situation for Labour was one of massive support that Corbyn wouldn't still lose the next election by a massive majority . Evidence of his ideology and alienation from the rest of society can be seen above . The likes of Huddy and Billy no mates are typical of the type of Corbyn supporter . It is paramount to their existence on this planet that they support someone on the left of the party because of the policies they have . The prime overall objective to win a general election is irrelevant as they would clearly prefer a placard and donkey jacket for the next ten years or so. Huddy's utopian existence from his flat in Fegg Hayes may be one that strikes a chord with some people , but is not representative of the vast majority . The traditional Labour supporter is someone who now owns their property and has at least one foreign holiday a year . They are people who don't want to see the jobs market flooded with migrants and the overcrowding it causes , or an abandonment of our nuclear weapons either . All that aside , Labour is currently 12 % behind and likely to fall even further behind . That's the bottom line . That's the important bit ....there are no signs of any glimmer of hope on the horizon whatsoever . Whether you or I , happen to like the man or his policies he's a political time bomb . The pin has already been pulled and as soon as he becomes leader the carnage will be there for everyone to see . If this party cannot pick the best candidate to win a general election , then why would anyone want to vote for it . You have to be in it ...to win it ! |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 7, 2015 9:41:05 GMT
There's a very consistent theme running through this thread from the anti Corbyn posters, and that is, that Corbyn will be an electoral disaster for Labour. There has been a large debate about Corbyn's apparent policies and attitudes to a range of subjects.
What there has not been, is any sort of explanation as to why any of the other candidates is better than Corbyn, other than they will be more electable. So what's so good about the other candidates?
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 7, 2015 11:49:03 GMT
There's a very consistent theme running through this thread from the anti Corbyn posters, and that is, that Corbyn will be an electoral disaster for Labour. There has been a large debate about Corbyn's apparent policies and attitudes to a range of subjects. What there has not been, is any sort of explanation as to why any of the other candidates is better than Corbyn, other than they will be more electable. So what's so good about the other candidates? Errrrr... They're not Corbyn! Looks like Labour have got themselves in the position of going for the "least worse" option. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 7, 2015 12:54:51 GMT
There's a very consistent theme running through this thread from the anti Corbyn posters, and that is, that Corbyn will be an electoral disaster for Labour. There has been a large debate about Corbyn's apparent policies and attitudes to a range of subjects. What there has not been, is any sort of explanation as to why any of the other candidates is better than Corbyn, other than they will be more electable. So what's so good about the other candidates? Errrrr... They're not Corbyn! Looks like Labour have got themselves in the position of going for the "least worse" option. And herein, lies the real issue in this election, that after years of Blair, Brown and David Milliband's less able brother, the Labour Party is so bereft of ideas, that the once untouchable, has become something of a visionary candidate! So Blair knew how to win an election, fan-bloody-tastic, but what's his legacy? Vacuous sound bite politics or one guy (like him or not) with a true political identity. |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 7, 2015 13:21:51 GMT
'New Labour' remind me of Tony Pulis..forget about the method just look at the results. But people get sick and tired with that after a while, don't they? And they don't renew their Early Bird tickets do they? And when they start to lose a few games people start to look at the method of operation (modus-operandi) and realise it's shit. Then they look elsewhere..for a bit of flair and imagination and style. We might not win anything but at least it will be enjoyable to watch..given the years of pure repetitive boredom. And The Labour Leadership is largely irrelevant anyway..because Labour have no chance of winning a General Election until at least 2030. And by that time Jeremy Corbyn will be 96 and all the steam trains will have run out of fucking coal  |
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Post by Biblical on Sept 7, 2015 16:36:22 GMT
Whatever happens Labour won't win in 2020. Whoever the leader is. To win the seats back in Scotland and upcoming boundary changes as well it will be too hard for anyone to make up that ground. It could be 100 seats to win back and that just isn't going to happen. So if Corbyn becomes leader don't thin k the 2020 defat is because just because of that. Labour won't win and that's regardless of leader is. Joe No ....! I hear what you are saying about Scotland and yes you're right ,but don't think for one second that even if the situation for Labour was one of massive support that Corbyn wouldn't still lose the next election by a massive majority . Evidence of his ideology and alienation from the rest of society can be seen above . The likes of Huddy and Billy no mates are typical of the type of Corbyn supporter . It is paramount to their existence on this planet that they support someone on the left of the party because of the policies they have . The prime overall objective to win a general election is irrelevant as they would clearly prefer a placard and donkey jacket for the next ten years or so. Huddy's utopian existence from his flat in Fegg Hayes may be one that strikes a chord with some people , but is not representative of the vast majority . The traditional Labour supporter is someone who now owns their property and has at least one foreign holiday a year . They are people who don't want to see the jobs market flooded with migrants and the overcrowding it causes , or an abandonment of our nuclear weapons either . All that aside , Labour is currently 12 % behind and likely to fall even further behind . That's the bottom line . That's the important bit ....there are no signs of any glimmer of hope on the horizon whatsoever . Whether you or I , happen to like the man or his policies he's a political time bomb . The pin has already been pulled and as soon as he becomes leader the carnage will be there for everyone to see . If this party cannot pick the best candidate to win a general election , then why would anyone want to vote for it . You have to be in it ...to win it ! Utter waffle with unecessary digs at fellow posters thrown in for good measure. That's the mumf way  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 17:11:57 GMT
Joe No ....! I hear what you are saying about Scotland and yes you're right ,but don't think for one second that even if the situation for Labour was one of massive support that Corbyn wouldn't still lose the next election by a massive majority . Evidence of his ideology and alienation from the rest of society can be seen above . The likes of Huddy and Billy no mates are typical of the type of Corbyn supporter . It is paramount to their existence on this planet that they support someone on the left of the party because of the policies they have . The prime overall objective to win a general election is irrelevant as they would clearly prefer a placard and donkey jacket for the next ten years or so. Huddy's utopian existence from his flat in Fegg Hayes may be one that strikes a chord with some people , but is not representative of the vast majority . The traditional Labour supporter is someone who now owns their property and has at least one foreign holiday a year . They are people who don't want to see the jobs market flooded with migrants and the overcrowding it causes , or an abandonment of our nuclear weapons either . All that aside , Labour is currently 12 % behind and likely to fall even further behind . That's the bottom line . That's the important bit ....there are no signs of any glimmer of hope on the horizon whatsoever . Whether you or I , happen to like the man or his policies he's a political time bomb . The pin has already been pulled and as soon as he becomes leader the carnage will be there for everyone to see . If this party cannot pick the best candidate to win a general election , then why would anyone want to vote for it . You have to be in it ...to win it ! Utter waffle with unecessary digs at fellow posters thrown in for good measure. That's the mumf way You may not like it flower petal .....But it's all true . Ask them if you wish . Love Mumf |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 7, 2015 17:45:34 GMT
Joe No ....! I hear what you are saying about Scotland and yes you're right ,but don't think for one second that even if the situation for Labour was one of massive support that Corbyn wouldn't still lose the next election by a massive majority . Evidence of his ideology and alienation from the rest of society can be seen above . The likes of Huddy and Billy no mates are typical of the type of Corbyn supporter . It is paramount to their existence on this planet that they support someone on the left of the party because of the policies they have . The prime overall objective to win a general election is irrelevant as they would clearly prefer a placard and donkey jacket for the next ten years or so. Huddy's utopian existence from his flat in Fegg Hayes may be one that strikes a chord with some people , but is not representative of the vast majority . The traditional Labour supporter is someone who now owns their property and has at least one foreign holiday a year . They are people who don't want to see the jobs market flooded with migrants and the overcrowding it causes , or an abandonment of our nuclear weapons either . All that aside , Labour is currently 12 % behind and likely to fall even further behind . That's the bottom line . That's the important bit ....there are no signs of any glimmer of hope on the horizon whatsoever . Whether you or I , happen to like the man or his policies he's a political time bomb . The pin has already been pulled and as soon as he becomes leader the carnage will be there for everyone to see . If this party cannot pick the best candidate to win a general election , then why would anyone want to vote for it . You have to be in it ...to win it ! Utter waffle with unecessary digs at fellow posters thrown in for good measure. That's the mumf way Indeed..vicious and vacuous in equal measure. Has the nerve to call himself a socialist as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 18:12:51 GMT
There are no handbags in my wardrobe .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 18:45:58 GMT
Do not be under any illusion this is not a Labour leadership contest this is a contest for the soul of the party.
Who wins will claim the banner of Labour but I doubt that many would rally to the flag of a left winger with many easy target faults.
This election in my opinion will end the Labour party fragmenting it into the two halves it has always been, maybe one of these parts will eventually become electable, not the Left side I'm sure.
A true British government has to be Inclusive not exclusive.
PS my economic and public affairs teacher would laugh his head off if he saw the stuff I post now.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 7, 2015 19:15:10 GMT
There are no handbags in my wardrobe . Harry "likes" this Homophobic nonsense. Plenty of skeletons though eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 19:22:21 GMT
If you say so dear .....  |
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 7, 2015 19:25:34 GMT
There are no handbags in my wardrobe . bravo  |
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 7, 2015 19:39:40 GMT
There are no handbags in my wardrobe . Harry "likes" this Homophobic nonsense. Plenty of skeletons though eh? Is that a fact is this part of the confidential information you claim to have on other posters ?, or is it simply more of your made up feckin bullshit Sir. |
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Post by Biblical on Sept 7, 2015 19:48:07 GMT
Utter waffle with unecessary digs at fellow posters thrown in for good measure. That's the mumf way You may not like it flower petal .....But it's all true . Ask them if you wish . Love Mumf I'm really not arsed that you've got a different opinion to me however you present your views in such a pretentious, condescending way that you just come across as an absolute twat. Two staunch right wingers in Stokeharry and Carpslayer continually liking your posts speaks volumes and your continual homophobic slurs are right in line with a lot of your other pre-historic rambling nonsense you post. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 20:03:00 GMT
You may not like it flower petal .....But it's all true . Ask them if you wish . Love Mumf I'm really not arsed that you've got a different opinion to me however you present your views in such a pretentious, condescending way that you just come across as an absolute twat. Two staunch right wingers in Stokeharry and Carpslayer continually liking your posts speaks volumes and your continual homophobic slurs are right in line with a lot of your other pre-historic rambling nonsense you post. Do you ever write anything that is apertaining to the subject matter or is character slurring more important to you ? I'll let the other two comment for themselves , suffice to say that they were both previous Labour Party supporters . As for Queers ...I don't know any , I don't want to know any , and I have no interest in them whatsoever .... If you don't have anything constructive to say then don't fucking bother .....The same goes for the other clown . |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 7, 2015 20:05:25 GMT
I'm really not arsed that you've got a different opinion to me however you present your views in such a pretentious, condescending way that you just come across as an absolute twat. Two staunch right wingers in Stokeharry and Carpslayer continually liking your posts speaks volumes and your continual homophobic slurs are right in line with a lot of your other pre-historic rambling nonsense you post. Do you ever write anything that is apertaining to the subject matter or is character slurring more important to you ? I'll let the other two comment for themselves , suffice to say that they were both previous Labour Party supporters . As for Queers ...I don't know any , I don't want to know any , and I have no interest in them whatsoever .... If you don't have anything constructive to say then don't fucking bother .....The same goes for the other clown . The hypocrisy and irony in your words here are truly staggering. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 7, 2015 20:06:17 GMT
Harry "likes" this Homophobic nonsense. Plenty of skeletons though eh? Is that a fact is this part of the confidential information you claim to have on other posters ?, or is it simply more of your made up feckin bullshit Sir. What time is your plane leaving? |
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 7, 2015 20:06:58 GMT
You may not like it flower petal .....But it's all true . Ask them if you wish . Love Mumf I'm really not arsed that you've got a different opinion to me however you present your views in such a pretentious, condescending way that you just come across as an absolute twat. Two staunch right wingers in Stokeharry and Carpslayer continually liking your posts speaks volumes and your continual homophobic slurs are right in line with a lot of your other pre-historic rambling nonsense you post. You are describing yourself and your lefty chums there kid and I doubt mumf is a homophobe , why would he be scared of his own house  |
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morning visits.
think of the skid marks.
