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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2015 18:55:43 GMT
I can't wait for corbyn to win
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 5, 2015 18:58:57 GMT
There are a few of them apparently. Doesn't detract from the fact that Corbyn's open, honest and refreshing approach is gaining massive support not just in the Labour movement but out across the country as well. He may fail yet but I for one admire his stance. Hmm. I'm not convinced by it all. That John Crudass research makes worrying reading for Corbyn fans. Very worrying. if the majority of the public believed Labour were anti-austerity lite and didn't vote for them based on that, they're hardly going to fall for full on anti-austerity. Corbyn is is a decent man with an honourable and consistent position. I like his housing policy. I dislike his CND stance as it's idealistic and not pragmatic. However, all that pales in to insignificance when compared to economics. If the public rejected Labour for believing them to be slightly anti-austerity and bad on economic competence enough, they aren't going to want full on anti-austerity. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:02:02 GMT
There are a few of them apparently. Doesn't detract from the fact that Corbyn's open, honest and refreshing approach is gaining massive support not just in the Labour movement but out across the country as well. He may fail yet but I for one admire his stance. Hmm. I'm not convinced by it all. That John Crudass research makes worrying reading for Corbyn fans. Very worrying. if the majority of the public believed Labour were anti-austerity lite and didn't bite for them based on that, they're hardly going to fall for full on anti-austerity. Corbyn is is a decent man with an no rouble position. I like his housing policy. I dislike his CND stance as its idealistic and not pragmatic. However, all that pales in to insignificance when compared to economics. If the public rejected Labour for believing them to be slightly anti-austerity and bad on economic competence enough, they aren't going to want full on anti-austerity. I can see your point, I'm hoping he gets the chance to expand on his economic vision. The notion that he's "hard left" is terribly out dated in my opinion. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:02:33 GMT
I can't wait for corbyn to win Indeed...your precious pension might be safe then.  |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 5, 2015 19:18:16 GMT
I quite like Corbyn's honesty and at least he attempts to answer any question given to him. Sure many of his answers are wrong but it's quite refreshing, at the moment at least.
That said I wouldn't vote for him and IMHO he'll pick up very few if any more votes than what Milibund managed. Anyone who thinks the country would vote Corbyn to be PM is either mad or pissed.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 5, 2015 19:24:04 GMT
I quite like Corbyn's honesty and at least he attempts to answer any question given to him. Sure many of his answers are wrong but it's quite refreshing, at the moment at least. That said I wouldn't vote for him and IMHO he'll pick up very few if any more votes than what Milibund managed. Anyone who thinks the country would vote Corbyn to be PM is either mad or pissed. He's a pale imitation of Michael foot |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:28:35 GMT
I quite like Corbyn's honesty and at least he attempts to answer any question given to him. Sure many of his answers are wrong but it's quite refreshing, at the moment at least. That said I wouldn't vote for him and IMHO he'll pick up very few if any more votes than what Milibund managed. Anyone who thinks the country would vote Corbyn to be PM is either mad or pissed. He's a pale imitation of Michael foot Have to disagree he's very much his own man. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 5, 2015 19:30:26 GMT
I quite like Corbyn's honesty and at least he attempts to answer any question given to him. Sure many of his answers are wrong but it's quite refreshing, at the moment at least. That said I wouldn't vote for him and IMHO he'll pick up very few if any more votes than what Milibund managed. Anyone who thinks the country would vote Corbyn to be PM is either mad or pissed. He's a pale imitation of Michael foot Agreed, but after 20 odd years of Blair, Brown and Cameron, anyone who doesn't speak 100% spin, is at least for a few days a welcome relief. Should the Labour party take absolute leave of their senses and actually elect him leader I'm sure my opinion will change. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:33:10 GMT
He's a pale imitation of Michael foot Agreed, but after 20 odd years of Blair, Brown and Cameron, anyone who doesn't speak 100% spin, is at least for a few days a welcome relief. Should the Labour party take absolute leave of their senses and actually elect him leader I'm sure my opinion will change. It's a fact that the control of the Labour Party has become top down rather than the old bottom up. The hierarchy are frankly shitting themselves at the thought of Corbyn winning. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 5, 2015 19:34:06 GMT
He's a pale imitation of Michael foot Have to disagree he's very much his own man. Are you able to vote Huddy? I had you down as a Kendall supporter. :) |
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 5, 2015 19:34:13 GMT
He's a pale imitation of Michael foot Have to disagree he's very much his own man. I liked Michael Foot Very clever man |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:34:58 GMT
Have to disagree he's very much his own man. Are you able to vote Huddy? I had you down as a Kendall supporter.  Good one! |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:35:36 GMT
Have to disagree he's very much his own man. I liked Michael Foot Very clever man A brilliant and courageous man, agree with you Harry. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 5, 2015 19:36:11 GMT
Agreed, but after 20 odd years of Blair, Brown and Cameron, anyone who doesn't speak 100% spin, is at least for a few days a welcome relief. Should the Labour party take absolute leave of their senses and actually elect him leader I'm sure my opinion will change. It's a fact that the control of the Labour Party has become top down rather than the old bottom up. The hierarchy are frankly shitting themselves at the thought of Corbyn winning. I agree with that mate. I'm sure those at the top of the party would want anyone other than Corbyn. Why do they want this though. DO they see that after Brown and Milibund the party are about to elect their 3rd unelectable leader in a row? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:38:54 GMT
It's a fact that the control of the Labour Party has become top down rather than the old bottom up. The hierarchy are frankly shitting themselves at the thought of Corbyn winning. I agree with that mate. I'm sure those at the top of the party would want anyone other than Corbyn. Why do they want this though. DO they see that after Brown and Milibund the party are about to elect their 3rd unelectable leader in a row? In fairness BB it's more about the fact that JC plans to devolve power back to the grass roots. For instance it would mean the three idiots representing Stoke on Trent would be booted out for starters which would be welcome. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 19:45:04 GMT
Have to disagree he's very much his own man. I liked Michael Foot Very clever man Too decent and idealistic to do the job though . |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 5, 2015 19:52:31 GMT
I agree with that mate. I'm sure those at the top of the party would want anyone other than Corbyn. Why do they want this though. DO they see that after Brown and Milibund the party are about to elect their 3rd unelectable leader in a row? In fairness BB it's more about the fact that JC plans to devolve power back to the grass roots. For instance it would mean the three idiots representing Stoke on Trent would be booted out for starters which would be welcome. Thats fair enough (although I've found Flello to be a pretty reasonable constituency MP). I just think that the party should be looking at the recent past and trying to find a leader who at least seems electable with policies that would benefit the majority of working people in this country. Corbyn certainly seems honest, intelligent and pricipled and as I've said this is at least half of what is required. But he stands no chance of becoming PM. We can say how unfair that is, but lifes a bitch. The party wqould be better off electing the most left wing candidate who at least has a chance of winning an election, and whilst I don't like her that would probably be Cooper. Anyway, I'm sure we'll pick this up again at another time. As my hours oatcake time while on hols, whilst the wife that baking programme shite on BBC1, is now at an end. |
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 5, 2015 19:53:07 GMT
I liked Michael Foot Very clever man Too decent and idealistic to do the job though . Highly principled and brilliant man Bish . I always think it's a good starting point for any politician , regardless whether I agree with them or not |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:53:58 GMT
In fairness BB it's more about the fact that JC plans to devolve power back to the grass roots. For instance it would mean the three idiots representing Stoke on Trent would be booted out for starters which would be welcome. Thats fair enough (although I've found Flello to be a pretty reasonable constituency MP). I just think that the party should be looking at the recent past and trying to find a leader who at least seems electable with policies that would benefit the majority of working people in this country. Corbyn certainly seems honest, intelligent and pricipled and as I've said this is at least half of what is required. But he stands no chance of becoming PM. We can say how unfair that is, but lifes a bitch. The party wqould be better off electing the most left wing candidate who at least has a chance of winning an election, and whilst I don't like her that would probably be Cooper. Anyway, I'm sure we'll pick this up again at another time. As my hours oatcake time while on hols, whilst the wife that baking programme shite on BBC1, is now at an end. Fair play buddy...let's see what develops. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 19:56:28 GMT
I liked Michael Foot Very clever man Too decent and idealistic to do the job though . You know that's really sad to read. Decency and idealism count for nothing...dreadful thought. |
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Aug 5, 2015 20:57:40 GMT
Too decent and idealistic to do the job though . You know that's really sad to read. Decency and idealism count for nothing...dreadful thought. Let's not forget Michael Foot's brilliant propping of James Callaghans minority Labour government. Although Foot and Callaghan were from the opposite sides of the party, Foot backed his PM in many brilliant parliamentary sessions. Remember that government got inflation down to 8% |
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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2015 21:07:26 GMT
I can't wait for corbyn to win Indeed...your precious pension might be safe then. Leave the worrying of my finances to me. I'd be more concerned about losing it to the inevitable taxation to pay for his ideas |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 21:14:44 GMT
Indeed...your precious pension might be safe then. Leave the worrying of my finances to me. I'd be more concerned about losing it to the inevitable taxation to pay for his ideas Wouldn't have thought your salary would be liable buddy...unless you've been promoted to Brigadier General? |
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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2015 21:26:12 GMT
Leave the worrying of my finances to me. I'd be more concerned about losing it to the inevitable taxation to pay for his ideas Wouldn't have thought your salary would be liable buddy...unless you've been promoted to Brigadier General? You haven't a clue |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 21:31:31 GMT
Too decent and idealistic to do the job though . You know that's really sad to read. Decency and idealism count for nothing...dreadful thought. I didn't say that they counted for nothing and it is sad , but unfortunately it is the way of things in politics isn't it .....and yes it is dreadful . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 21:40:08 GMT
Leave the worrying of my finances to me. I'd be more concerned about losing it to the inevitable taxation to pay for his ideas Wouldn't have thought your salary would be liable buddy...unless you've been promoted to Brigadier General? [/quote The rank of Brigadier General does not exist in the British Army Huddy .....hard luck for Salop , he will have to make do with plain Brigadier  |
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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2015 21:40:18 GMT
So idealistic is only wrong when it's right |
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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2015 21:40:40 GMT
If it's not right being idealistic must be wrong |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 5, 2015 21:41:52 GMT
So idealistic is only wrong when it's right Or left |
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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2015 21:44:15 GMT
Wouldn't have thought your salary would be liable buddy...unless you've been promoted to Brigadier General? [/quote The rank of Brigadier General does not exist in the British Army Huddy .....hard luck for Salop , he will have to make do with plain Brigadier Like I said mate he hasn't got a clue For someone so concerned with my finances I hope he's not after a tap. I'm skint |
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