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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jan 24, 2014 15:29:50 GMT
Poyet“There have been no offers at all for Lee Cattermole,” he said firmly.
“So it could be plenty of rumours.
“I try to be helpful when I can be to the media over transfers although it is important I do not say anything which might affect a transfer.
“But in this case, it is an easy question for me to answer: we have definitely not had an offer for him.” There is a God!
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Post by dbstoke on Jan 24, 2014 16:05:20 GMT
To sign Cattermole would have Tony Waddington turning in his grave and would be a total embarrassment to all decent Stoke fans who appreciate the game being played properly. I utterly despair. Need to keep Tony Waddington out of arguments like this. He's irrelevant to the modern game, and anyway he would've turned that much in his grave pre 2008, that he's probably about 50ft deeper by now. Pretty sure that as long as stoke are in the top flight he'll sleep soundly
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Post by Davef on Jan 24, 2014 16:11:48 GMT
To sign Cattermole would have Tony Waddington turning in his grave and would be a total embarrassment to all decent Stoke fans who appreciate the game being played properly. I utterly despair. Waddo signed and selected his fair share of hatchet men. Watch the League Cup Final on YouTube, and some of the treatment dished out to Chris Garland by Alan Bloor and Mike Pejic. Stanley Matthews had his own 'minder' in Eddie Clamp and Denis Smith would cut his own grandmother in half if it meant stopping a goal. I'm sure there are plenty of others.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 24, 2014 16:23:20 GMT
So according to Poyet we haven't even made a bid. Just what the fuck was Spinks thinking here? Full of shit as ever.
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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2014 16:34:25 GMT
So according to Poyet we haven't even made a bid. Just what the fuck was Spinks thinking here? Full of shit as ever. Can you do that? Just make something up I mean. Among all the exotic names we have signed and been linked with I was quite looking forward to Barry Lee Cattermole. Baz from Stockton-On-Tees
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Post by padders01 on Jan 26, 2014 0:12:10 GMT
@dpcoverdale: Di Canio on Bardsley and Cattermole: "“The reason Sunderland stayed up was because Cattermole was injured and Bardsley played very little."
@dpcoverdale: Di Canio on Bardsley and Cattermole: “These two players were rotten — the most unprofessional players I’ve ever worked with." #safc
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 26, 2014 1:04:33 GMT
@dpcoverdale: Di Canio on Bardsley and Cattermole: "“The reason Sunderland stayed up was because Cattermole was injured and Bardsley played very little." @dpcoverdale: Di Canio on Bardsley and Cattermole: “These two players were rotten — the most unprofessional players I’ve ever worked with." #safc Dcoverdale?? Thought he was the singer in whitesnake.
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Post by RAF on Jan 26, 2014 1:15:16 GMT
@dpcoverdale Di Canio said " I am however a mental facist cunt with more than one screw loose"
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 26, 2014 1:18:21 GMT
Whoever wrote the headline containing the words "...closing fast..." obviously has no clue whatsoever about the speed with which we move in the transfer market. Haha It's looking like Spinksy's dropped a right bollock on this one, and it was never as close as he was suggesting, or WAS close and has gone away. No-one in the sizeable north-east press pack has really mentioned it since, and no-one seems to think it's ever really been as firmly on as was suggested? Suppose it's possible we could be waiting for them to get Bridcutt over the line before it happens - but not holding my breath.... It's another Hunt scenario. When will people learn Spinks knows nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 1:32:14 GMT
@dpcoverdale: Di Canio on Bardsley and Cattermole: "“The reason Sunderland stayed up was because Cattermole was injured and Bardsley played very little." @dpcoverdale: Di Canio on Bardsley and Cattermole: “These two players were rotten — the most unprofessional players I’ve ever worked with." #safc Dcoverdale?? Thought he was the singer in whitesnake. Here we go again down the road....
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 26, 2014 22:37:28 GMT
Mirror"I will definitely be a Sunderland player on Wednesday. I've heard no different and the manager has come out and said he has heard no different.
"I will be back in training on Monday. I am contracted to Sunderland. They make the decisions not me. It's out of my hands. I'm contracted here for the rest of the season and another two years. It's out of my hands. Until I know any different, I will keep working.
"I have got a cup final to play in - if I'm here - and that would be brilliant."
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Post by sportsman on Jan 26, 2014 22:44:15 GMT
If we are after him still there's not a chance until after Wednesday.
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Post by Jimm on Jan 26, 2014 22:50:15 GMT
Surely going after Liam Bridcutt makes more sense to us
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 27, 2014 9:06:49 GMT
So according to Poyet we haven't even made a bid. Just what the fuck was Spinks thinking here? Full of shit as ever. Not on this one he's not.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 27, 2014 9:27:00 GMT
Mirror"I will definitely be a Sunderland player on Wednesday. I've heard no different and the manager has come out and said he has heard no different.
"I will be back in training on Monday. I am contracted to Sunderland. They make the decisions not me. It's out of my hands. I'm contracted here for the rest of the season and another two years. It's out of my hands. Until I know any different, I will keep working.
"I have got a cup final to play in - if I'm here - and that would be brilliant."
Yes, i think he'll stay but it seems we were 'monitoring' him to say the least.
But maybe he'll feel differently after they sign & play Bridcutt, who they are still pushing for and wants to go there to play under GP again.
Also, a flick through their MB last week pretty much showed that, irrespective of whether they thought him a good or bad player, the consensus was that was that he wasn't suited to the 'new way' (whatever that is) Poyet wanted to play.
So, marmite man might yet be glad someone was seriously looking at him.
In relative terms though, we need other positions (up top & supply lines for those up top) sorting way more urgently.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 27, 2014 9:30:04 GMT
Surely going after Liam Bridcutt makes more sense to us Having a really good look at him to see if he could make the step up would, yes.
Cheaper, younger & would piss off GP and Blunderland fans who don't like Cattermole.
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Post by st3mark on Jan 27, 2014 10:33:50 GMT
We sure are closing in fast on this signing!
The only thing closing fast is the purse strings.
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Post by Banega23 on Jan 27, 2014 11:36:21 GMT
Mirror"I will definitely be a Sunderland player on Wednesday. I've heard no different and the manager has come out and said he has heard no different.
"I will be back in training on Monday. I am contracted to Sunderland. They make the decisions not me. It's out of my hands. I'm contracted here for the rest of the season and another two years. It's out of my hands. Until I know any different, I will keep working.
"I have got a cup final to play in - if I'm here - and that would be brilliant."
Yes, i think he'll stay but it seems we were 'monitoring' him to say the least.
But maybe he'll feel differently after they sign & play Bridcutt, who they are still pushing for and wants to go there to play under GP again.
Also, a flick through their MB last week pretty much showed that, irrespective of whether they thought him a good or bad player, the consensus was that was that he wasn't suited to the 'new way' (whatever that is) Poyet wanted to play.
So, marmite man might yet be glad someone was seriously looking at him.
In relative terms though, we need other positions (up top & supply lines for those up top) sorting way more urgently.I don't understand the lack of urgency towards signing a holding midfielder. So far this season in that position we have tried Marc Wilson, Palacios, N'zonzi, Whelan and Palacios again. Each have had good games in that position -perhaps with the exception of N'zonzi who is better a little further forward- but we've never settled on one that can keep the ball, confidently get it off the centre backs AND read the game well and break up play. Wilson and Whelan have been the best so far, but both get overawed in big moments and big games, particularly Whelan. They cannot keep the ball under high pressing. Cattermole is a decent footballer. All this bollox about him being a liability, thug whatever is just based on the 1 minute of MOTD they watch every week. He's a reasonable passing footballer and would be a decent short term fix for the DM spot. Holding midfield spot is as important as any other position right now. If we had Ki or someone who is calm and decisive on the ball we'd keep the ball much better and N'zonzi wouldn't have to be constantly moving up and down the pitch recovering everytime some cretin can't keep the ball.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 27, 2014 11:44:34 GMT
Yes, i think he'll stay but it seems we were 'monitoring' him to say the least.
But maybe he'll feel differently after they sign & play Bridcutt, who they are still pushing for and wants to go there to play under GP again.
Also, a flick through their MB last week pretty much showed that, irrespective of whether they thought him a good or bad player, the consensus was that was that he wasn't suited to the 'new way' (whatever that is) Poyet wanted to play.
So, marmite man might yet be glad someone was seriously looking at him.
In relative terms though, we need other positions (up top & supply lines for those up top) sorting way more urgently. I don't understand the lack of urgency towards signing a holding midfielder. So far this season in that position we have tried Marc Wilson, Palacios, N'zonzi, Whelan and Palacios again. Each have had good games in that position -perhaps with the exception of N'zonzi who is better a little further forward- but we've never settled on one that can keep the ball, confidently get it off the centre backs AND read the game well and break up play. Wilson and Whelan have been the best so far, but both get overawed in big moments and big games, particularly Whelan. They cannot keep the ball under high pressing. Cattermole is a decent footballer. All this bollox about him being a liability, thug whatever is just based on the 1 minute of MOTD they watch every week. He's a reasonable passing footballer and would be a decent short term fix for the DM spot. Holding midfield spot is as important as any other position right now. If we had Ki or someone who is calm and decisive on the ball we'd keep the ball much better and N'zonzi wouldn't have to be constantly moving up and down the pitch recovering everytime some cretin can't keep the ball. Don't disagree Benega at all and I am not a Cattermole naysayer or blind to the deficiencies there at all.
But, it just points to the size of the task that Les has.
We need one of them as well but bad as we are there, I can't see it being more urgent than sorting goals / pace / creativity up top first, as yesterday proved.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Jan 27, 2014 15:38:47 GMT
MailOnline Sport ?@mailsport 9m TRANSFER COLUMN: Stoke are ready to revive interest in Sunderland's Lee Cattermole and may also look to take Steven Fletcher... #scfc
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2014 15:40:55 GMT
MailOnline Sport ?@mailsport 9m TRANSFER COLUMN: Stoke are ready to revive interest in Sunderland's Lee Cattermole and may also look to take Steven Fletcher... #scfc Not sure I can see us putting the big bucks down for Fletcher. I like him (and he is probably expendable) - but he hasn't got much more pace than Crouchy. I can definitely see Cattermole coming though (after Wednesday obviously!)
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 27, 2014 15:41:30 GMT
MailOnline Sport ?@mailsport 9m TRANSFER COLUMN: Stoke are ready to revive interest in Sunderland's Lee Cattermole and may also look to take Steven Fletcher... #scfc First bit: Marmite style board implosion all over again.
Second bit: oh dear.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 27, 2014 15:42:19 GMT
Really fast.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2014 15:58:53 GMT
MailStoke City are ready to revive interest in Sunderland midfielder Lee Cattermole and may look to take Steven Fletcher too.
The combative Cattermole spoke at the weekend about how much he was looking forward to appearing in the Capital One Cup final for Sunderland against Manchester City yet Gus Poyet has to take stock of how such a transfer can aid his team going forward and more pertinently survive in the Premier League.
Cattermole, 25, has made 19 appearances this season in all competitions and 14 last year. His disciplinary record has improved massively but Poyet feels it is a deal he can afford to do if he can bring in Liam Bridcutt from Brighton and Ever Banega on loan from Valencia.
In turn, should Cattermole go through to Stoke, Norwich may revisit a deal for Stoke's Glenn Whelan. Sunderland recalled Connor Wickham from his loan at Sheffield Wednesday today amid interest from Stoke in Fletcher.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 27, 2014 16:02:08 GMT
Sunderland would be fucking mental to get rid of Fletcher, especially to a relegation rival. Can't see that one having much legs unless they have something more in the pipeline.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 28, 2014 9:48:04 GMT
Should we be potentially disturbed at PDC's comments on Sunday - or just dismiss it due to the source?
"Cattermole and Bardsley were rotten, the most unprofessional players I've ever worked with" "The reason Sunderland stayed up at the end of last season was because Cattermole was injured and Bardsley played very little. In Alex Ferguson's book he says, 'Never give chances to players who feel more stronger than the manager, otherwise it's the end'.
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Post by aixpotter on Jan 28, 2014 10:09:31 GMT
Should we be potentially disturbed at PDC's comments on Sunday - or just dismiss it due to the source? "Cattermole and Bardsley were rotten, the most unprofessional players I've ever worked with" "The reason Sunderland stayed up at the end of last season was because Cattermole was injured and Bardsley played very little. In Alex Ferguson's book he says, 'Never give chances to players who feel more stronger than the manager, otherwise it's the end'.
Mmmm! No smoke without fire????
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 29, 2014 10:17:04 GMT
SentinelThe Sentinel has been reporting the Cattermole interest for the past week, but not the apparent Fletcher interest which has been reported elsewhere. The Sentinel understands there is a genuine interest in Cattermole, but not in Fletcher. SentinelMeanwhile, Stoke will consider reviving their interest in Sunderland's Lee Cattermole after tonight's timely meeting between the two clubs at the Stadium of Light (7.45pm).
But The Sentinel understands there is far less validity in reports linking Stoke with a move for Sunderland striker Steven Fletcher as part of a £10m double swoop on Wearside.
Cattermole is expected to take his usual place in Sunderland's starting line-up to further enliven tonight's bottom-of-the-table battle.
Sunderland's willingness to let him go hinges on them first signing Liam Bridcutt from Poyet's old club Brighton – and then Stoke persuading Cattermole to join them ahead of a probable Wembley appearance in the Capital One Cup final on March 2.
Stoke have yet to make their interest official, and that has left Poyet in a lather before tonight's clash.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 29, 2014 10:43:32 GMT
I think we can all now treat the prefix,
"the Sentinel understands"
with some caution at best or more likely, delete "understands" and mentally insert "has put 2+2 together and made 5".
There is / was something going on - Aix is right above & Les's lady Gaga face didn't quite pull it off at the presser pre Chelsea to imagine there isn't - but Spinksy's "closing fast" bollox have seen his ITK ranking slip to level 32nd alongside CKP.
Neither does this tally with Dave's MF-er swap, Prem to Prem does it?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 29, 2014 18:55:51 GMT
Maybe not "fast", but does Cattermole's absence from their 18 mean we have finally "closed in"?
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